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Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 4 Public Beta hands-on preview

By dpreview staff on Jan 10, 2012 at 05:00 GMT

Adobe has released a public beta version of its Photoshop Lightroom 4 workflow and image editing software and we've prepared a comprehensive article looking at the changes it brings. Available immediately for free download from Adobe Labs, the beta features a books creation module, increased support for video files, soft proofing capability and a Google Maps-powered geo-tagging module. What do these changes mean for new and existing Lightroom users? Find out in our hands-on preview.

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Click here to download the Lightroom 4 public beta from Adobe Labs

Press Release:

Adobe Debuts Photoshop Lightroom 4 Public Beta on Adobe Labs

SAN JOSE, Calif. — Jan. 10, 2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated (Nasdaq:ADBE) today announced Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 4 beta for Windows and Mac. Available as a free public download from Adobe Labs, Lightroom is the essential digital photography workflow solution helping amateur and professional photographers quickly import, manage, enhance and showcase their images. Lightroom 4 beta is a preview of new features and capabilities that will be offered in the final release of Lightroom 4, expected in early 2012. The beta features refined technology for superior shadow and highlight processing, expanded management capabilities including enhanced DSLR video support and the ability to create beautiful photo books from within Lightroom. Adobe encourages photographers to try the beta release and provide feedback to the product team.

“Giving early customer access to new versions of Lightroom has helped our team deliver an outstanding battle-tested product that really stands up to the demands of photographers worldwide,” said Winston Hendrickson, vice president of Digital Imaging Products, Adobe. “The much anticipated release of Lightroom 4 beta continues this tradition and shows how much Adobe values customer insights into photography workflows.”

New Features in Lightroom 4 Beta

Lightroom 4 beta is a major software update adding a broad range of new capabilities based on feedback provided by the photography community. All new basic tonal adjustment controls extract the entire dynamic range from cameras for stunning shadow details and highlights. The software features additional local adjustment controls, including Noise Reduction, Moire and White Balance.

New native video support gives photographers the capability to play, trim and extract frames from video clips shot on DSLRs, point-and-shoot cameras and smartphones. Many standard Lightroom image adjustment controls can also be applied to video clips and adjusted videos can be exported as a H.264 file or published directly to Facebook or Flickr.

Lightroom 4 beta provides photographers the tools to create impressive photo books with rich text controls and a variety of easy-to-use templates, as well as a direct link for photo book creation from within the new Book module. Also, a new intuitive Map module displays images already assigned a location, provides location tagging controls and saved locations for effortless assignment of a photographer’s common locations.

In the Develop module, the addition of soft proofing helps photographers tune images in a destination color space to ensure prints and Web content look their best. In addition, customers can now email images directly from Lightroom using an email account of their choice including Gmail, Hotmail and Yahoo! Mail.

Adobe Photoshop Family

Adobe Photoshop CS5 and Photoshop CS5 Extended are at the heart of the Photoshop family, joined by solutions for users at every level who want to bring out the best in their digital images either at home, in the office or on the go. Photoshop Lightroom 4 beta addresses the workflow needs of amateur and professional photographers, helping them create, manage and showcase images in impactful ways. Photoshop Elements 10 provides consumers with powerful yet easy-to-use tools that organize, edit, create and share photos memories. For mobile devices, Photoshop Touch app transforms images with core Photoshop features custom-built for tablets; and Photoshop Express is a free app for simple photo fixes and enhancements, and sharing to social networks.

Pricing and Availability

Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 4 beta is available immediately as a free download on both Windows and Mac at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/. Customers can submit feedback on the community powered feedback site: http://feedback.photoshop.com. Users can also connect with the Lightroom team directly on Facebook (www.facebook.com/lightroom), via Twitter (www.twitter.com/lightroom) or on the Adobe Lightroom blog (http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal). For Lightroom how-to videos, visit http://www.youtube.com/lightroom.

Comments

Total comments: 101
Lu Heng
By Lu Heng (Feb 13, 2012)

I installed it just for fun once on my MAC. Now I want to redevelop some of my old photos in LR4. It's bad! :)
It really pushes dynamic range wide. And it takes much less actions processing out details in blacks and whites, where in LR3 you could only use multiple filters and brushes and much more time processing.
The only annoying thing is its speed - really ssssssssslow. So take your time.

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Poss
By Poss (Jan 16, 2012)

Finally catching up with Aperture...

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joebloggs
By joebloggs (Jan 18, 2012)

What.....of course you're kidding. I got both installed, LR much better IMO...

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pruus
By pruus (Jan 14, 2012)

I have installed beside my LR 3.6. No problems yet on my Macs

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AshMills
By AshMills (Jan 13, 2012)

Anyone know if this updates ACR to a new version, or whether the next ACR will have the 2012 engine built in?

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BMWX5
By BMWX5 (Jan 11, 2012)

Has anyone installed this beta beside their full version in MAC?

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onemoremile
By onemoremile (Jan 11, 2012)

Better video editing, maps, brightness and contrast, more adjustments controlled by brushes, books, stacks work throughout the application. Lightroom 4 is Aperture 3! It is no wonder people are asking about Faces.

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SteB
By SteB (Jan 11, 2012)

I downloaded it, had a play with it, and watched some of the tutorial videos on it. Overall it looks promising and I like stuff like the selective white balance and noise reduction. Although I wish it handled layers.

I'm slightly baffled though. On the tutorial video about handling video clips it says it handles Sony AVCHD, but it won't recognise the clips from my Sony HX9V. It read a few I'd converted to H.264 MP4m, but that was it. So I'm guessing at the moment it won't handle AVCHD 2.0. I'll ask over at Adobe when I've got time.

Has anyone idea whether it will be possible to go from LR2 to LR4 as an upgrade, or will you have to buy the full version? I was going to get LR3 but to be perfectly honest I preferred the way LR2.6 handled my files to LR3.

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LCMETZ
By LCMETZ (Jan 11, 2012)

I am looking to play with the Beta LR4 (public). IF anyone has installed LR4beta on the same system as LR3 I would like to hear how well the two play together during this beta test. Thanks. LCMETZ

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keeponkeepingon
By keeponkeepingon (Jan 11, 2012)

Did they put the crop tool back into the library module?

That's one of my biggest gripes with LR3. I hit the R shortcut to crop then after cropping often forget now i"m in develop mode then I hit the E to go back to the loupe view. If you crop a lot it may sound like a silly gripe but it really slows me down.

Also it would be cool if the popular culling shortcuts such as pick were on the left hand. I find myself taking my hands off the mouse a lot just to hit the right hand shortcuts such as "P"

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graybalanced
By graybalanced (Jan 11, 2012)

On the left hand thing, you may want to know that in Lightroom 3 right now, you can use the ` key (top left corner of US English keyboard) as a flag toggle. If an image is not flagged, press ` to flag it. If an image is flagged, press the same ` key to unflag.

What this lets you do is use right hand to press prev/next with arrow keys, while using left hand to press ` to toggle flag for image.

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keeponkeepingon
By keeponkeepingon (Jan 12, 2012)

Wow thanks!

It also lets you leave the right hand on the mouse for cropping and use just the left hand for picks/rejects and module change back to library after cropping.

I downloaded LR 4 and was disappointed to find the crop is still embedded in the develop module. Very disappointed in this.

Also to view my videos properly it wants Quicktime installed. I've resisted quicktime so far and I'm disappointed LR now requires it.

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putomax
By putomax (Jan 11, 2012)

NOT INTEGRATING/OPENING PREVIOUS CATALOG!!! ... ha ha ha
they're just so funny

probably ADOBE people think it is okay for us to PROCESS OUR images in a new environment (read from scratch) with their latest piece-of-binary-jewlery-money-sucker-bigger-neatier-megabombastic-expensive-thinggie.
do you REALLY think that i don't have anything better to do with my time?!!!

you are NOT paying me, you are NOT giving me ANYTHING (useful/engaged with previous versions of LR) TO WORK WITH or for free... so why the frogging hair would i spent my precious time testing your product if

1 - there's no integration with work/workflows done in previous versions
2 - case i decide not to buy LR4, would have the same problem reading LR4 catalog TO LR3

as a professional, as LR user (since day 1) and as person i am truly mad at this way of fooling us around.

gashô

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keeponkeepingon
By keeponkeepingon (Jan 11, 2012)

I would think it is a "good thing" to not let beta software muck around with your production catalog?

Can't you just export your edits/metadata to the jpeg/dng or sidecar file if you decide to go back to LR3?

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Bob Meyer
By Bob Meyer (Jan 11, 2012)

this is for the beta, silly. I'm sure the final version will use, or at least import, the existing catalog.

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putomax
By putomax (Jan 11, 2012)

you are right keeponkeepingon, specially having seen what this beta is ab_out, should not touch my catalog (• golum ON...my peciousss). normally, what i did in other beta versions and after backing up catalog, had a continuity in coming releases; so it was worth the try and was not playing or lost time.

---

certainly you are right bob… but what if … LR4 is not worth it (measured by my needs)? or IF i decide not to upgrade?

probably there will be who thinks "well, man, that's the point of the public beta"
or "that's the way you can contribute". not my thinking. trying to create thirst to sell the water are we? :P

i'll keep to v3 and when stable 4 comes out, i'll check the REAL thing. thank U guys anyhow

gashô

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LukeDuciel
By LukeDuciel (Jan 11, 2012)

The final version should be able to import previous version catalog file. Have you been through Version 3 beta process?

I consider it's a logical limit for: 1) preventing the beta version messing with your productive catalogs; 2) in case the format of V4 catalog need to change.

So, the furious energy in the post seems to be misplaced.

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putomax
By putomax (Jan 11, 2012)

[…] Have you been through Version 3 beta process? […]

yes, and 2 as well. as i just said, IN PREVIOUS betas i backed up my catalog (together with the actual pictures) and worked with a copy. later on, i just had to import the test catalog (which was A LARGE one) into new the stable version.
my only point (a little bit specific and maybe endemic) is that
there is NO POINT for me to test this beta, so i'll just skip it.
that's it dear luke.

may the force be with you

gashô

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marlinspike
By marlinspike (Jan 11, 2012)

Doesn't work with Windows XP. Big ol' thumbs down from me.

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Sordid
By Sordid (Jan 11, 2012)

So you're using an ancient OS.

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DioCanon
By DioCanon (Jan 11, 2012)

Oh man, XP!!!???

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Lea5
By Lea5 (Jan 12, 2012)

XP was released in the year 2012! Do you really think they will include a 11 years old software? Get Win 7.

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tombiondo
By tombiondo (Jan 10, 2012)

The era of still photography has finally ended!...Our cameras now shoot stills as an afterthought. We will always be in video mode and we will extract the frame(s) we need (have you seen the quality of a frame extraction from the new iPhone 4S?). Get your camera running....head out on the highway... Lookin for adventure and whatever comes your way!

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the_vj
By the_vj (Jan 10, 2012)

oh my... please tell me this was a joke... or do the toys of apple fan boys' set the quality standards these days? canon, beware - the fruit company seems to be after your business! :)

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JasonReplica
By JasonReplica (Jan 10, 2012)

I've worked professionally with Macs since 1998 and whilst some may consider that this would automatically make me a "fanboy" I assure you I'm a much bigger Nikon fan. No way would I swop a frame from the iPhone 4s - or virtually any other camera I've had the pleasure to shoot in the past 20 years - for one from my D700.
Please don't tar all Apple owners with the same brush ;-)

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Joel Santos
By Joel Santos (Jan 11, 2012)

You're quite wrong. There's no way you can do a long exposure with video and achieve the motion blur you get from that technique. An this is just the tip of the iceberg :-)

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JojieRT
By JojieRT (Jan 11, 2012)

Jason, being a fanboy and being an owner are totally different things.

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jjlad
By jjlad (Jan 10, 2012)

Greybalance wrote:
I don't care about face detection but it's obvious why other people do. Sure, you can recognize a face. But did you want to spend your free time recognizing 1000 faces? People want face recognition because it speeds up keyword tagging with names.

In other words, same reason as any other reason you use a computer to develop pics: Efficiency in production.
Perhaps that's why its so slow. Maybe LR is researching the names and addresses of all the faces it recognizes and adding that to the metadata. :)

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Mr Fartleberry
By Mr Fartleberry (Jan 10, 2012)

Whoopee GPS finally. Note - pgm is now 965MB instead of 110MB. - Adobe Process 2012 now - no 2011. Additional CA check box added to profiles. Seems a bit sluggish but that's an initial reaction.

Much better news than hearing Capture NX has been updated to 2.3.1.

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Wick Smith
By Wick Smith (Jan 10, 2012)

The top of my wishlist for LR4 was to have relative adjustments (like those in the Quick Develop tab) available as part of a preset. I often want to make a whole bunch of images 20% lighter etc.

Does LR4 have that?

-wick

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JojieRT
By JojieRT (Jan 10, 2012)

Doesn't the sync do that? Adjust exposure of 1 photo and sync selected photos?

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JasonReplica
By JasonReplica (Jan 10, 2012)

Just to clarify for you, JojieRT. The current sync option applies the same setting to each image but not in a relative form. Say you set the first image to +1 stop on exposure then all images will be set to +1 stop, but if you've already adjusted a set of images and - as Wick says above - wanted to lighten them all by say 20% from their current state then this isn't what LR3 currently does. It would reset all the exposure sliders to +1.
Hope that helps to clarify the difference for you, if not just ask and I'll try to explain it differently.

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JojieRT
By JojieRT (Jan 11, 2012)

I did not read in Wick's post what you say he said, but you're right, it would not work in your scenario.

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ArTourter
By ArTourter (Jan 12, 2012)

Actually, it is possible to do relative adjustments using the sync tool in the Library module in LR3. sync works differently between the Library and the Develop module.
There was a tutorial I saw about that a while back but of course I can't find it any more.

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Irakly Shanidze
By Irakly Shanidze (Jan 10, 2012)

Since lightroom comes bundled with Leica M9, I am wondering if this is the time to light my candles on Adobe writing profiles to at least wide angle lenses and 50mm f/1...

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6fingers
By 6fingers (Jan 10, 2012)

the good: for my camera/lenses combination (D7000) CA correction is a lot better than l3. 2012 doesn't clip highlights as much. Highlights/shadows/white/black is a real step forward.
I didn't notice a change in noise reduction compared to LR3, but sharpness seems better.
The brush can now also change wb and shadows/h, noise, yay.

the bad: the 64bit version is twice as slow compared to 3 on a high end PC under win7 x64(on the same images of course). I hope this will change in the final product (i'm talking about working on images, not exporting speed). I shudder to think how frustrating this may be on a lesser machine.
Google maps is also very slow compared to the browser equivalent. Even loading the map only layers takes some time.

On the whole, if it gets quicker, this will be amazing.

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FujicaST605
By FujicaST605 (Jan 10, 2012)

What processor and how much RAM on your W7 machine?

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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (Jan 10, 2012)

it is slower as V3.6 i noticed that too.. but then most adobe LR betas are slower. nothing to worry about.

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6fingers
By 6fingers (Jan 10, 2012)

i7 2600k overclocked @4.5 w 8 gB quality ddr3s. I hardly think more gb would count in that particular use.
2010 process seems a little faster but not as fast as on lr 3.6

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oss
By oss (Jan 10, 2012)

The beta will be full of debug code, same as all software betas, they are all slower than the final product.

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Bob Meyer
By Bob Meyer (Jan 11, 2012)

re: performance. I'm sure an early beta like this is full of debugging code that will be removed before the final release.

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_sem_
By _sem_ (Jan 10, 2012)

What happened to the fill-light slider?

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graybalanced
By graybalanced (Jan 10, 2012)

Watch the training videos...it's been rearranged into the new control set. It does work better.

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Smeghead
By Smeghead (Jan 10, 2012)

WOW!!! The difference in the sharpness of images taken with my 5D and 24-70 at 1:1 compared to LR3 is like night and day! Well done Adobe keep up the good work….

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bigdaddave
By bigdaddave (Jan 10, 2012)

Why do people want face detection in a RAW converter?

Are they incapable of recognising a face themselves?

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graybalanced
By graybalanced (Jan 10, 2012)

I don't care about face detection but it's obvious why other people do. Sure, you can recognize a face. But did you want to spend your free time recognizing 1000 faces? People want face recognition because it speeds up keyword tagging with names.

In other words, same reason as any other reason you use a computer to develop pics: Efficiency in production.

Comment edited 24 seconds after posting
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akluiber
By akluiber (Jan 10, 2012)

graybalanced nailed it.

Even if you don't care for the "fun" aspect of it. It's a great way to quickly populate hundreds or thousands of photos with relevant tag information.

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bigdaddave
By bigdaddave (Jan 10, 2012)

and you would trust this to do professional work to recognise faces in a crowd?
Things have changed

Comment edited 2 minutes after posting
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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (Jan 10, 2012)

well you now CCTV software?

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Albino_BlacMan
By Albino_BlacMan (Jan 10, 2012)

I had a quick read but coudln't find anything in regards to whether or not it is set up to better use multi-core processors. LR3 seems to be limited to using one core (or at least does very little with the others). Now that many people have 4 and even 8 cores I think they really need to take advantage of this.

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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (Jan 10, 2012)

LR3 makes full use of my 4/8 cores when it needs to.
importing etc.

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graybalanced
By graybalanced (Jan 10, 2012)

My CPU meter says LR3 uses as many cores as it can, when it can. It maxes out during long exports.

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Albino_BlacMan
By Albino_BlacMan (Jan 10, 2012)

My bad than! Sorry!

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compositor20
By compositor20 (Jan 10, 2012)

Does anyone notices an improvement in noise reduction? instead of local edit can it have more noise reduction applied to shadows and less to highlights/midtones ? any improvement in color noise removal?

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Martin Datzinger
By Martin Datzinger (Jan 10, 2012)

Really really great work on the Preview, very informative!

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keeponkeepingon
By keeponkeepingon (Jan 10, 2012)

It's great to see that video support got some love!

What I really need is some help just going through all of my videos. My perfect video library module would allow "time compressed" video play back with pitch correction so you can still understand the voices. Just accelerating 1.25-1.5X or so would have a significant improvement in my workflow.

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scottacus
By scottacus (Jan 10, 2012)

Does it finally provide decent CA correction? Guess I will have to download and see.

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herebefore
By herebefore (Jan 10, 2012)

What do you find wrong with the CA correction on version 3.6??

It works for all the lenses that I have that require it.

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Rich Gibson
By Rich Gibson (Jan 10, 2012)

It cannot correct magenta CA.

Rich

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Albino_BlacMan
By Albino_BlacMan (Jan 10, 2012)

Have you tried the Red/Cyan and Blue/Yellow sliders?

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graybalanced
By graybalanced (Jan 10, 2012)

They did change the CA correction. You do need to evaluate it.

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Lee Jay
By Lee Jay (Jan 10, 2012)

The new CA correction is shockingly effective on lateral CA. It doesn't do anything for longitudinal (axial) CA, just as before.

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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (Jan 10, 2012)

i think the GPS features are a nice start... but far from good.
they are way too basic and cumbersome.
not enough for people who do real geotagging.

like ACDSEE it´s only a half a$$ approach.

and im pretty sure it will not change much for the final.
i can only hope that they will do major improvements of the GPS feature in future versions. they have to improve it a lot to make it really usefull.

for example the MAP feature does NOT help you in keywording or other metadata editing. its just for placing GPS coordinates. :(

adobe should have a look at this FREE tool:

http://www.geosetter.de/

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Amadou Diallo
By Amadou Diallo (Jan 10, 2012)

Henry, no one here can change what ships in the final version of Lr4. But you know who can? Adobe. Give them feedback. There's a link at the start of the preview.

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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (Jan 10, 2012)

i have .. since v2. :(

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DioCanon
By DioCanon (Jan 11, 2012)

whinging, whinging, whinging!!!

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ColinL3
By ColinL3 (Jan 13, 2012)

I think the map feature does help with keywording or other metadata editing. If you display a region on the map, select "Visible on Map" and then go to grid view in the Library Module, the Metadata filter sets "GPS Location" to "Current Map Region" and you will only see images in that region. You can refine the filter based on other criteria such as camera or file type. When you have the required subset of images in the filter, you can select them and add keywords or other metadata information.

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Fred Briggs
By Fred Briggs (Jan 10, 2012)

Unless I've missed something, either in this or previous releases, I don't see any improvements to database management to cater for multiple users. I think this would be very useful in both domestic and business scenarios, and is one area where the product seems to be weak.

Ideally it needs some way to manage a shared distributed database over a network, even if this means partitioning the database in some way so that different parts could be locked for writing to different users, with some parts such as previews cached locally to each user for performance.

Fred

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pLu
By pLu (Jan 10, 2012)

> The old adage of "it's not optimized" is really a joke.

Not at all. It is most likely debug compiled to get meaningful stack traces in case of crashes.

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dave_bass5
By dave_bass5 (Jan 10, 2012)

How has it been deliberately crippled other than having a timed expiry? Where does this info come from?

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crustyjuggler66
By crustyjuggler66 (Jan 10, 2012)

Works very well on my MBP 2011.. Very stable release IMHO

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kevin_r
By kevin_r (Jan 10, 2012)

"i'm running under w7 , but it's slow"

One should remember that since this is "free", it has been deliberately crippled so as to prevent people from using the trial instead of buying the production version. The old adage of "it's not optimized" is really a joke. Software has to be really badly written for it to not run fast on modern machines, and frankly the days of such badly written software are long gone. One can be sure they've checked out the algorithms before they released the beta - otherwise they'll have a devil of a time trying to get the beta to be production worthy.

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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (Jan 10, 2012)

people like you who have never coded single line in their lives should not speak about something they have no clue about.

a final program code is different to a debug program code.

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Lee Jay
By Lee Jay (Jan 10, 2012)

You don't know what you're talking about, Kevin. I know this because what you said was flat wrong.

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graybalanced
By graybalanced (Jan 10, 2012)

I seriously think you're confusing the meanings of "beta version" and "trial version."

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Hawaii-geek
By Hawaii-geek (Jan 10, 2012)

Adobe, can we please have MORE SPEED! Pleeeaze :)

LR does not even let you alocate more Memory to Lightroom v3.6 (like PS CS5 does).
imho, PS CS5 benifits from 24gb of memory ... old LR v3.6 not so much.

and Brushes can also use a speed bump. Particularly after using them on a lot of files.

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graybalanced
By graybalanced (Jan 10, 2012)

My RAM meter says LR does use all the RAM it can.

Also, you are 100% mistaken on how Photoshop CS5 RAM works. The memory setting can never allocate more RAM to Photoshop. It is a RAM *limiter*. Like LR or any modern app, PS will use as much RAM as it can, but this can starve other apps or the OS. the memory setting is an UPPER limit to free up RAM for *other* apps.

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OS74
By OS74 (Jan 10, 2012)

Given the LR release history, when could we expect the release LR4?

I use 2.6 today and is keen to upgrade....

/O

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dgblackout
By dgblackout (Jan 10, 2012)

This comment thread will be full of "this feature is missing" "dog slow" or "doesn't support xp"

1. It's a beta, things may be added if/when they feel like it.
2. It's a beta, the code won't have been polished as much as a release or even a release candidate version.
3. Learn to get with the times, XP is over a decade old now. No developer wants to support any operating system forever, especially when things are moving so fast.

To me, it looks like quite a jump forward in processing. I look forward to seeing what else they add in future beta releases.

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putomax
By putomax (Jan 10, 2012)

slow dog

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gail
By gail (Jan 10, 2012)

I don't have lightroom and have been thinking about downloading a trial version. Will there be risks to my computer if I download the beta version rather than the current version?

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bigdaddave
By bigdaddave (Jan 10, 2012)

No more than in installing any other big program.

Lightroom is a simply fantastic product, but you need to practice a bit with it to see what it can do

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graybalanced
By graybalanced (Jan 10, 2012)

Yes, there are risks, it is not like installing any other program.

It is a "beta" version. Meaning it is for testing and feedback. That means it is not done and not fully de-bugged. If you read the Adobe release notes they warn you not to use it for production.

Keep your originals and your working LR3 catalog backed up before you start trying out LR4 beta. And don't get too dependent on it because the features/format might change before they are done.

In other words. This is not a shipping "trial" version. It is not "free software." It is an unfinished test version that will need to be paid for when it finally ships.

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mantra
By mantra (Jan 10, 2012)

i'm trying it
and it's really a great update

but
1)
it doesn't support xp , even it's the more used os around the world

2)
i'm running under w7 , but it's slow
i mean photoshop cs5 run amazing fast and it's amazing fast
bridge cs5 is super fast
i can't understand why lightroom is slow comapared to photoshpp cs5 and bridge cs5

but again for me is a great update

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JavaJones
By JavaJones (Jan 10, 2012)

No face detection, seriously Adobe? It's not just a "consumer" feature, it's damn useful for professionals and serious amateurs as well. Granted Photoshop Elements' support for it is not great, but at least you've got something to build on. Take that, make it better, and put it in LR4!

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JavaJones
By JavaJones (Jan 10, 2012)

Ok, after using it for a bit I have to say some of the new controls and develop processing, while seemingly simple on the surface, really make a difference. It's not heavy on major new "bullet point" features that are exciting to me (a book module, really?), but fortunately even the "basics" have taken a big step forward. It's much easier to get great-looking photos with the basic controls now. Check out the video series on Youtube for some nice examples: http://www.youtube.com/lightroom#p/c/52893D365AFC9355

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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (Jan 10, 2012)

you know what a BETA is and what FEATURE LIST NOT COMPLETE means??

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bigdaddave
By bigdaddave (Jan 10, 2012)

Why would you ever need face detection in a RAW converter?

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graybalanced
By graybalanced (Jan 10, 2012)

bigdaddave, LR is 50% raw converter, 50% organizer. Face detection is for the organizer part. It accelerates the keyword tagging of portraits, weddings, and group photos with people's names. In other words, face detection would have a measurable impact on the productivity of a shop.

As stated above, I personally don't need it. But others legitimately do.

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Chaitanya S
By Chaitanya S (Jan 10, 2012)

interface looks a lot like the older version.

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crustyjuggler66
By crustyjuggler66 (Jan 10, 2012)

Hasn't changed since 2004... Wastes a lot of space with those thick lines and large text. However it's still the best RAW editor out there in my opinion.

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bigdaddave
By bigdaddave (Jan 10, 2012)

It's much better if you use the option to hide the title bar and use auto-hide for the Windows taskbar

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graybalanced
By graybalanced (Jan 10, 2012)

@crustyjuggler66 If you mean the large text at the top, I always hide that section (click edge or press F5). If you mean large text in the UI, you do know there are size choices for the UI text? I chose "Small"

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Tim O'Connor
By Tim O'Connor (Jan 10, 2012)

Shame it doesnt have the new sharpen routines :)

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Roman Tarnavski
By Roman Tarnavski (Jan 10, 2012)

Dear Adobe, pull your head out. Where is face-detection?

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Adrian Joseph Roy
By Adrian Joseph Roy (Jan 10, 2012)

From Wikipedia: Beta (named after the second letter of the Greek alphabet) is the software development phase following alpha. It generally begins when the software is feature complete.

Just because the list isn't complete, doesn't mean that the final release will get new features added to it.

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macaddict
By macaddict (Jan 10, 2012)

Sounds like the most significant new features- video, mapping, books- came from Apple's Aperture 3. Sad to see Adobe following Microsoft's pattern of replicating rather than innovating.

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Makea
By Makea (Jan 10, 2012)

don't forget soft proofing has been in Aperture since version 1.0.

However, it's not possible to apply any adjustments to video clips like LR4.

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Stu 5
By Stu 5 (Jan 10, 2012)

As somebody has already pointed out the can make adjustments to the video in Lightroom and that is a huge difference. You can alter:

* White Balance (JPEG Equivalent)
* Basic Tone
* Exposure
* Contrast
* White Clipping
* Black Clipping
* Saturation
* Vibrance
* Tone Curve
* Color Treatment (HSL)
* Black and White
* Split Toning
* Process Version and Calibration

This allows you to use existing presets as well you might have. So now you can grade your footage in Lightroom and then export to another program to edit it together. This weekend I have a short film to shoot for a client which needs to be in black and white. Without question I will grade the footage in Lightroom. Can't do that in Aperture.

There are also a lot more improvements listed in the release notes for the program which is worth reading. http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2012/01/lr4betanowavailable.html

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jadot
By jadot (Jan 10, 2012)

"Can't do that in Aperture"

February.

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toxotis700
By toxotis700 (Jan 10, 2012)

such a shame i cant apply noise reduction to videos!

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