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Updated: Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* E 24mm F1.8 ZA samples

By dpreview staff on Sep 27, 2011 at 18:51 GMT

We have just updated our previously posted samples gallery from the ß. Our previous gallery was shot exclusively using the NEX-7 but these latest samples were shot with the NEX-5N. Together, these samples should give you a good overall indication of how the lens performs in front of both 24MP and 16MP sensors. As usual we've tried to shoot the lens in a variety of conditions and at a variety of apertures to give an idea about how it behaves.

Samples gallery

There are 34 images in the samples gallery. Please do not reproduce any of these images on a website or any newsletter / magazine without prior permission (see our copyright page). We make the originals available for private users to download to their own machines for personal examination or printing (in conjunction with this review), we do so in good faith, please don't abuse it.

Unless otherwise noted images taken with no particular settings at full resolution. Because our review images are now hosted on the 'galleries' section of dpreview.com, you can enjoy all of the new galleries functionality when browsing these samples.

Sony E 24mm F1.8 ZA Preview Samples - Updated 27th September 2011
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Comments

Total comments: 46
SydneyHarbourBridge
By SydneyHarbourBridge (Sep 30, 2011)

CONCLUSION

The sensor of the NEX 7 is very ggod but you would not know it from the samples posted here.

If you want to see really impressive photos - in fact the only good ones I have seen to date from this camera - you have to go to the Luminous Landscape site.

Only a couple of photos at the same dumb Sony promo event of the WWII 'pilot' and his gal but the resolution is extremely good.

Strangely these few photos were NOT taken with either the 16-55mm kit lens or the Zeiss 24mm 1.8 lens but with a 16-50mm A mount lens using the Sony E adapter. At least that is how I understand the captions.

It looks to me like Sony really put in all the effort for lens-for-sensor design into the Alpha and that if you use the adapter, which looks like an after thought but is not, THEN you will really see the NEX 7 shine, with probably much better results from the A mount 24mm 2.0 Zeiss lens with the adapter than from this 24mm 1.8.

The camera is good but this lens is not.

0 upvotes
Ashton45
By Ashton45 (Sep 30, 2011)

I agree also; a bunch of random happy snaps is not useful to see the image quality of a lens.
All you need are about 8 or 10 images, of the same subject at a few different apertures, so you can compare apples to apples, and then a few difficult situations (flare, backlight, etc.)
If you're going to pay all that money for an f 1.8 lens you probably want to use that aperture, so it's useful to have images shot at 1.8, 2, 2.8 at the least! In this day and age, any plastic kit lens should give you a decent image at f8.
Too bad, waste of time really.

0 upvotes
Pentax_Prime
By Pentax_Prime (Sep 29, 2011)

I agree with the poster before me - some of these are just pretty bad photography. Not sure who is taking these shots, but you need someone who at least understands composition, lighting, DOF, etc. Feel free to contact me if you'd like me to do some shots for you.

0 upvotes
JAAPHOTO
By JAAPHOTO (Sep 29, 2011)

this is not the way to conduct new cameras and lens tests. You need serious photographers who understand lighting and will show us samples in professional settings. photosgraphers who treat these cameras as a serious work and not a happy snap. We also need to see processed intelligently raw photos. You can't tell anythng from these jpegs.

0 upvotes
siuyung
By siuyung (Sep 29, 2011)

So glad that I didn't purchase the 5N after seeing these sample pictures.

0 upvotes
darkref
By darkref (Sep 28, 2011)

These are shot with a 5n, and you are still complaning about the sensor?

0 upvotes
Mescalamba
By Mescalamba (Sep 28, 2011)

Wont work without either tweaked JPEG output or much prefered RAW and some basic tweaks. Im pretty sure lens isnt issue, JPEG output and no PP is.

0 upvotes
Herman Liu
By Herman Liu (Sep 28, 2011)

My crappy EFS 18-55 kit lens is as good as this lens shot at f8 f11.

0 upvotes
Camp Freddy
By Camp Freddy (Sep 28, 2011)

The new shots are better I note! They show good sharpness and colour rendition with nothing alarming about the DR when the contrast is not crazy in the scene/subject.

I note a word of cauition on the f stops below, but as a quick reveiw gallery this is now padded out better.

Thank you DPR for listening to us. Sony and C Zeiss make great sensors / lenses respt. so they deserved this.

0 upvotes
Faisalee
By Faisalee (Sep 28, 2011)

For a fast f1.8 lens, I am disappointed to see 90% of the shots at very small apertures (f9, f8 etc)

Why didnt the photographer shot some qualty indoors or evening shots wide open. Every one knows that lens get better when stopped down, its the wide-open result that metters the most! f1.8 is what you are paying for any ways :)

2 upvotes
Calvin Chann
By Calvin Chann (Sep 29, 2011)

Maybe he didn't have a ND filter. It was kinda bright!

0 upvotes
Harry Lane
By Harry Lane (Sep 28, 2011)

Can we get another photographer please? Looks like our pleas went unheard - we are treated to more of the same mediocre photos.

Dpreview, please put this lens in the hands of a capable photographer.

7 upvotes
aeolos
By aeolos (Sep 28, 2011)

lol..

have you seen the nx200 samples... look look muuuch sharper than the sony (i own a alpha 100 nikon d300 and a nx100.. no brand fanboy)

0 upvotes
aeolos
By aeolos (Sep 28, 2011)

what i wanted to say is that it is not the photographers fault.. the nex7 just hasnt such a good sensor it appears until now..

0 upvotes
Mescalamba
By Mescalamba (Sep 28, 2011)

Its not sensor issue (its same as in A77 plus bit of noise probably), its just very bad JPEG output from Sony overall (tho if you tweak that JPEG output in camera it can produce quite nice photos, at least 5N can, Im sure of that cause Ive seen such photos).

0 upvotes
Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (Sep 28, 2011)

Steady on there, I've only just stopped crying myself to sleep after your last round of insightful aesthetic criticism...

0 upvotes
Eric Calabros
By Eric Calabros (Sep 28, 2011)

where is the lizard? :-)

0 upvotes
lucavascon
By lucavascon (Sep 28, 2011)

What I would really really like to see as test shot is lowlight or nightshot. I mean no high iso shot but long-exposure tripod one. I say, how does the sensor render a situation with difficult light, different lightsources, very dark and very bright areas? my high iso hysteria is in the direction to obtain good color separation, acceptable noise and usable image in a 400 iso, 30 seconds shot. Like I'm used to with film.
Does the lens render halos around neon signs? Or does it give a clean, sharp and detailed image?
In full sunlight, with backlight and sun quite in the border of the frame I would love my lens to have its flare, but but not to fog the entire picture.
Does it give punchy and highly contrasted results? Or loads of details and good microcontrast?
In the past these were the reasons I trashed nikons and canons to buy my Contax system and Carl Zeiss lenses.
All the best!
Luca.

4 upvotes
Todor Bodurov
By Todor Bodurov (Sep 28, 2011)

Most of these photos are quite useless as evaluation samples. (Lately, this has been the case with all your samples.) Apparently, the person who has taken them does not know what a potential owner of the lens (or of the camera) is looking for. To evaluate a lens one needs to see:
- Photos taken at maximum aperture, in this case at F/1.8 .
- Photos that show the presence or lack of Linear Distortion.
- Photos that show the presence or lack of 'Soft' corners.
- Photos in which a light source is included in the frame.
In agreement with previous comments, my impression from these samples is that Sony E 24mm F1.8 ZA is a mediocre lens. I think this is a false impression due to the inappropriate samples.

11 upvotes
Sosua
By Sosua (Sep 28, 2011)

Not enough brick wall shots, dpreview! Lol.

1 upvote
lucavascon
By lucavascon (Sep 28, 2011)

My impression at the moment is the same, mediocre lens, mediocre sensor-processor. (but it is a pre-production camara, isn't it?) I really hope we are wrong, it is really the kind of camera I was waiting for!

0 upvotes
darkref
By darkref (Sep 28, 2011)

@ lucavascon, these new photos are with the 5n, which has phenomenal IQ and iso performance.

0 upvotes
Mescalamba
By Mescalamba (Sep 28, 2011)

@ lucavascon, these new photos are with the 5n, which has phenomenal IQ and iso performance.

Which cant help if someone has both hands left. :D

0 upvotes
Dark_Knight
By Dark_Knight (Sep 28, 2011)

Conclusion: lens kicks azz, buy it

0 upvotes
DVT80111
By DVT80111 (Sep 28, 2011)

I don't see anything special about these images. Really. I feel my Nikkor 35/2.0 could do better, or even the Sigma 17-50/2.8 Zoom. It is certainly not worth $1000 (maybe the CZ name itself is worth $500).

2 upvotes
Pangloss
By Pangloss (Sep 28, 2011)

I didn't think the earlier samples shot with the NEX-7 were particularly impressive in terms of optical performance (I thought the motocyclist portraits in particular were not exceptionally sharp), and the new samples shot with the NEX-5N are imo equally unimpressive.
There are many shots posted in the NEX forum with the NEX-5N and legacy glass that made me go: "Wow, that's sharp!" but none of these DPR preview samples generated the same reaction.

1 upvote
Mescalamba
By Mescalamba (Sep 28, 2011)

Probably cause NEX-5N users can develop RAW and mostly do, or they know how to control JPEGs OOC, or they do some primitive PP on those JPEGs, so it doesnt look flat like 10yrs old tits.

Its not lens fault.

0 upvotes
photo perzon
By photo perzon (Sep 27, 2011)

Where are the high ISO pictures? Any lens is great under sunlight at ISO 100.

1 upvote
simen_s
By simen_s (Sep 27, 2011)

You are after a high ISO lens? I have to say, this high ISO hysteria has gone too far.

14 upvotes
duartix
By duartix (Sep 27, 2011)

Hey give the guy a break! I'm also interested in a high ISO lens to pair with a high ISO professional UV filter I bought on the internet!
I've also bought a third party high ISO battery that is going to kick a$$ when it arrives!

13 upvotes
imarollingstone
By imarollingstone (Sep 27, 2011)

LOL!

0 upvotes
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Sep 28, 2011)

@duartix:

Clearly you don't know what a very high quality UV filter can do for an already good lens.

Actually no reason that a clean power source shouldn't improve noise--really ask any audiophile.

So, not being ironic here, you've proven your ignorance.

0 upvotes
duartix
By duartix (Sep 28, 2011)

@HowaboutRAW:

Clearly you don't know what I know or not about UV filters, whether I use them and how much did they cost me.

Clearly you also have a limited understanding of irony but that's a risk a took willingly when I wrote what I wrote.

BTW, do us all favour and tell us what UV filter works better in high ISOs.

Thanks.
Cheers!

0 upvotes
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (Sep 28, 2011)

D,

Figure it out yourself if you know so much. (Big "if" there.)

0 upvotes
terryoregon
By terryoregon (Sep 27, 2011)

Just curious, is depreview using paid models? Who are the people in WWII costumes?

0 upvotes
darkref
By darkref (Sep 28, 2011)

it's another sony press outing I believe, these are sony models

1 upvote
slaybells
By slaybells (Sep 28, 2011)

Hmm, a Sony model shooting a Sony model. :-)

0 upvotes
Doug Frost
By Doug Frost (Sep 27, 2011)

Sharp, punchy photos with excellent contrast. Just what I'd expect from Zeiss. I can't wait until mine arrives with my new NEX-7. :D

1 upvote
SDF
By SDF (Sep 27, 2011)

Is it just me or the 24mm ZA works best with NEX-7 instead of NEX-5N.

0 upvotes
VJVIS
By VJVIS (Sep 27, 2011)

Why no high ISO shots? 5 ISO 200 shots and 29 ISO 100 shots. I guess they are trying to figure out the resolution of the lens and not the high ISO performance of the sensors.

0 upvotes
Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (Sep 27, 2011)

You've answered your own question there I think :)

2 upvotes
Matt Random
By Matt Random (Sep 27, 2011)

Since you've used the 5N and 7 with the same lens can you comment on focus speed? Does the 7 seem to be any faster than the 5N?

1 upvote
Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Sep 27, 2011)

At least one real low light shot would be nice. Two would be real helpful, especially if one showed how much (or little) lense flare one gets at F1.8 if a lamp is in the vicinity of the frame or in the frame.

1 upvote
DavidsfotosDotCom
By DavidsfotosDotCom (Sep 27, 2011)

Where's your conclusion?

0 upvotes
Doug Frost
By Doug Frost (Sep 27, 2011)

Conclusion? This is just a samples gallery, not a review.

1 upvote
powertoold
By powertoold (Sep 27, 2011)

Seriously? Only one new f1.8 shot?

7 upvotes
Total comments: 46