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Nikon J1 real-world samples gallery

By dpreview staff on Sep 22, 2011 at 07:36 GMT

We've published a gallery of 23 images shot with the Nikon J1. We've shot a selection of images using the Nikon J1 - the simpler of the company's two 'Nikon 1' cameras. Combined with the 1 Nikkor VR 10-30mm f/3.5-5.6 kit lens, we've taken a variety of real-world images in a variety of light conditions. Given all the controversy the J1 and V1 have generated, we thought it made sense to look at some of its images. We've also included 5 raw files for you to examine.

Samples gallery

There are 23 images in the samples gallery. Please do not reproduce any of these images on a website or any newsletter / magazine without prior permission (see our copyright page). We make the originals available for private users to download to their own machines for personal examination or printing (in conjunction with this review), we do so in good faith, please don't abuse it.

Unless otherwise noted images taken with no particular settings at full resolution. Because our review images are now hosted on the 'galleries' section of dpreview.com, you can enjoy all of the new galleries functionality when browsing these samples.

Nikon J1 Preview Samples - Posted 22nd September 2011

Raw files for download

Here we provide raw files from the sample shots we take, to allow you to apply your own workflow techniques and see for yourself the benefits of shooting in raw mode.

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gDaniel
By gDaniel (Sep 26, 2011)

i tested the V1 today for 20-30 minutes, with 10-30 and 10-100.

Build quality is up to the big FX cousins, feels quite sturdy and have a nice magnesium finish. Lenses are OK ( build quality wise) but don't have the same feeling as the camera. Camera body is a bit heavy and feels better in hand with 10-100 than with 10-30. Autofocus is great and feels very fast, even when set to Auto AF, and could lock even onto dark corners of the store without hunting. ( seems faster than my D300, but i may be wrong)

PSAM mode is in the menu :( ...why they did not put it on the same wheel?

After selecting A mode, you can change aperture easily using the switch, same for shutter priority ... etc.

Viewfinder...ok, not there yet :D IQ... I just cannot judge the IQ in the store and such short time.
Nikon F - adapter. Will be available in December and will Autofocus with AF-S lenses. ( Nikon representative)

If anyone visits Prague this week, head on to FotoSkoda and you can test it by yourself.

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rafaelneville
By rafaelneville (Sep 26, 2011)

Looks like we'll have to wait for DPreview to incorporate these new Nikon Series to their system, so we can compare the final images along with those of other camers and see for ourselves the differences.

Personally I think Fujifilm's X Series are the best on high ISO performance.
And I very much doubt that there is going to be a camera that is going to beat them. At least up to now in their category, the performace talks by itself.

See the ISO comparison charts:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/FujifilmX100/page11.asp

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Hide Takahashi
By Hide Takahashi (Sep 25, 2011)

One of some concerns about this new cam is the lack of DOF. I was wondering if this cam never can take a photo with a nice bokeh?
On Nikon's site,there are some sample photos. Scroll down till you see a butterfly shot.

http://www.nikonusa.com/Nikon-Products/Product/Nikon1/27504/Nikon-1-V1.html

Click on view smart photo selector sample.

This one photo clearly shows that V1/J1 can take a photo with a beautiful bokeh. I just don't know if smart photo selector will always produce a photo like that or not. Probably not. But at least,with the right lens,the right settings,it could produce a good DOF.

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bryanbrun
By bryanbrun (Sep 25, 2011)

The only photos with an real amount of blue with the Nikon V1 system were taken with the 100mm lense.

The 10-30mm lens that comes with the $900 V1 cannot produce bokeh in the vast majority of shooting scenarios.

So you are correct, if you buy another $300 lens in addition to the $900 that you have spent for the V1, you can experience nice bokeh.

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skrulm8
By skrulm8 (Sep 29, 2011)

DOF only depends on the absolute diameter of the lens opening. So, to match the pretty bokeh of a $30 manual focus 58/2.0 lens on a DSLR, these little Nikons would need to have an aperture of f/0.34 at 10mm, f1.0 at 30mm (this is close to the 58mm lens on an ASP-C body) and f/3.5 at 100mm. Good luck with that... at any price.

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skrulm8
By skrulm8 (Sep 29, 2011)

DOF only depends on the absolute diameter of the lens opening. So, to match the pretty bokeh of a $30 manual focus 58/2.0 lens on a DSLR, these little Nikons would need to have an aperture of f/0.34 at 10mm, f1.0 at 30mm (this is close to the 58mm lens on an ASP-C body) and f/3.5 at 100mm. Good luck with that... at any price.

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pixelpro
By pixelpro (Sep 25, 2011)

I'm not sure these sample photos do the camera justice. To my eye, some are quite over exposed and don't represent the camera properly. Not just a bit over, quite a bit - blown highlights. When using any auto mode, at least 30% of the shots will need exposure comp. The button is on the back dial, right under your thumb... why not use it? Then you can't blame the over exposure on the camera ;-)

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/warrenpix/5772790797/" title="Public Art 2 - NY by Warren06, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5189/5772790797_f7c5d2f033.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Public Art 2 - NY"></a>

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rocklobster
By rocklobster (Sep 26, 2011)

Just take a look at the RAW files and be prepared to be very impressed by low noise levels but alas a little softness.

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aleckurgan
By aleckurgan (Sep 26, 2011)

@rocklobster, raw samples are okay. some noise reduction apparently has been applied before raw. so nothing special really.

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aleckurgan
By aleckurgan (Sep 26, 2011)

@rocklobster, raw samples are okay. some noise reduction apparently has been applied before raw. so nothing special really.

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john
By john (Sep 25, 2011)

under dozens of flash strobe in a lab test, every big, small even tiny sensor look similar good, but use it under real world situation, poor lights, dim light moon lights, the comparison will be day and night difference

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ezradja
By ezradja (Sep 24, 2011)

Those who claim this J1 / V1 image is good enough to compete with other EVIL should check their eyes or stop drink that kool aid. Tried the imaging resource comparison between J1 and G12 (yes prosumer G12) and its evident that the bigger sensor slightly win and the smaller sensor (G12) lose. Compare the J1 image to the same price range (and size) NEX-5N and oh boy, stark different in image quality, dynamic range, noise etc. This arguably proved that the bigger the sensor, the better the image quality, but why bother with smaller sensor if the body and the lenses are similar in size? The argument that smaller sensor would effected the body and lenses should not be mention because of physics. You just can't make ultrawide lenses small, if you want ultra wide in Nikon 1 system you at least should make 5mm and of course with bright f (1.8-2), guess what, that lens gonna be big, well enormous to be precise.

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ezradja
By ezradja (Sep 24, 2011)

There's a reason why 50mm lenses is always smaller than the wider lenses with the same max. aperture for the same system. the 24mm lens with f 1.4 always gonna be bigger than 50mm with f 1.4 at the same lens system. For tele it's a slightly different because after 50mm, the more focal range (50 and up) with the same max. aperture get bigger (also the filter size). In medium format (645) the normal lens (80mm) also has the smallest than the wider or the longer (with the same max. aperture). There's some physic principles applied there.

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ezradja
By ezradja (Sep 24, 2011)

So my argument is, why you have to have small sensor system if you can't get the body and more importantly, lenses, utterly smaller than the 4/3 or APS size sensors? They probably slightly, very slightly smaller than the bigger sensor but it's really negligible. That 10-100mm f3.5-5.6 lens with 72mm filter size for example, what an enormous lens! And V1 or J1 use that lens would be a joke. Not to mention that AFS 300mm 2.8 attached. Are you havin a laugh?

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Josh152
By Josh152 (Sep 25, 2011)

Exactly it's not the sensor most people have a problem with. It is the camera they put it in. If this sensor was in a fixed lens compact the size of a S95 or even a G12 it would have been seen as a major advancement. Instead, by putting in camera size that typically has a bigger sensor and charging an obscene price for it, they have just made the whole 1 series camera line a joke.

The only people who won't realize that the can get a similar sized camera with a better sensor for less money are the ones who would never spend the kind of coin Nikon is asking for on a camera.

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g7star
By g7star (Sep 25, 2011)

I guess smaller sensor make it possible to shoot at higher frame per second. And higher resolution video with more frame. For larger sensors it takes more processing power.

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ezradja
By ezradja (Sep 25, 2011)

ocme on, what is the use of high speed framerate (400fps) on 640x240 not even VGA resolution? IF 400fps could be achieved on HD (1280x720 at least) resolution, now we're talking revolution here.

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rocklobster
By rocklobster (Sep 26, 2011)

A case of 'the pot calling the kettle black' - those NEX lenses are enormous. A smaller sensor will always mean that the the lens is smaller but not necessarily in proportion as there are some fixed sized parts relating to the AF mechanism and other functions.

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skrulm8
By skrulm8 (Sep 29, 2011)

Oh, yes, a 5/1.8 lens on this camera would be absolutely huge. It would have an internal diameter of a massive 2.8mm. Wow, scary... the outer element would be the size of a finger nail on the pinky.

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skrulm8
By skrulm8 (Sep 29, 2011)

Oh, yes, a 5/1.8 lens on this camera would be absolutely huge. It would have an internal diameter of a massive 2.8mm. Wow, scary... the outer element would be the size of a finger nail on the pinky.

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skrulm8
By skrulm8 (Sep 29, 2011)

Oh, yes, a 5/1.8 lens on this camera would be absolutely huge. It would have an internal diameter of a massive 2.8mm. Wow, scary... the outer element would be the size of a finger nail on the pinky.

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Hide Takahashi
By Hide Takahashi (Sep 24, 2011)

I agree with you. This camera is quite capable. If I get this cam,I will mount my 300mm f/4-AFS on this cam to see how fast AF is. On spec,it's the fastest AF in the world,much faster than D3s. If that claim is true,then Nikon just masde one special cam. I'm a bird shooter so AF speed IS the important.
My D300 performs well but faster AF will always help catch a subject.

Some image samples were not taken in an ideal light conditition. Nikon always handle noise better than other makers so I don't worry about it.

Nobody owns this camera,yet. So how can you make rude comments on this new cam without shooting with this cam? But this is not new. It's been like that at Dpreview for a long time.

Anyway,for superb AF performance alone,I thank Nikon very much. :)
I'm looking forward to test drive it soon.

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unknown member
By (unknown member) (Sep 24, 2011)

810mm is nice to think about, but for actual bird photography I find the 300mm and a 1.4 TC sometimes too much, so I often just go with the 300 for 450mm equivalent. I believe a better lens for this little camera would be the 70-200 (old version). That should be a great bird setup, and focus would be faster. Wow, 190-540mm f2.8. Killer. And for nesting birds add the TC1.4E. Oh crap. Now I'll have to buy this camera.

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Hide Takahashi
By Hide Takahashi (Sep 24, 2011)

For me,the 300mm+a 1.4TC is a nice set up but more reach always help. If I could afford,I would get a 500mm f/4 VR but $10000 is just out of my reach. But $900,I can do it.

I agree that the best telephoto lens for this cam would be 70-200 f/2.8 VR. It's sharp and fast and it has VR.

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Arn
By Arn (Sep 25, 2011)

Oh sweet Jeebus... People actually think a body of this size is going to be convenient with a 70-200/2.8? :D
Also, it takes a religious fanatic's attitude to think that the contrast, sharpness and AF accuracy is going to be even remotely DSLR class.

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rocklobster
By rocklobster (Sep 24, 2011)

Addendum to my previous post -

Yes, it may have limited dynamic range and yes, you cant have shallow DOF especially with the availible lenses but stop criticising this sensor at least until we see a full test.

Cheers

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rocklobster
By rocklobster (Sep 24, 2011)

Have done some comparisons of RAW files of the 'still life' studio scene from imaging resource (sorry dpreview) with the E-PM1 and the Nikon J1 noise performance is almost identical at ISO 1600 and 3200 except the shots are slightly softer from the J1. For consistency, I used DCR with the RAWDrop front end application for conversion of both formats.

So, good job Nikon except, why do your real life sample JPEGs look so bad (relative to the EPM1) at lower ISO? Lens quality?

BTW the J1 was only 1/2 to 1 stop worse than the NEX-5 at ISO 3200 - good result.

Cheers

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CameraLabTester
By CameraLabTester (Sep 24, 2011)

Looking forward to HALF PRICE DISCOUNTS sooner than later...

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DVT80111
By DVT80111 (Sep 24, 2011)

Sharp but also the background. Why bother with interchangeable lens while a high end long zoom P&S would do same. I don't get it.

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photorow
By photorow (Sep 24, 2011)

I've seen much better sample shots on other sites. Need a reshoot, DPR.

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photorow
By photorow (Sep 24, 2011)

Here's an example of a site that posted better samples. VERY impressive samples, especially in motion.

http://www.photographyblog.com/news/nikon_1_system_hands-on_preview/

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zodiacfml
By zodiacfml (Sep 24, 2011)

if Nikon insists the sensor size, I can consider, if the pixel count was half, but that would be an ugly number for most consumers.

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rudymnv
By rudymnv (Sep 23, 2011)

you can compare lab studio shots of j1 with other cameras here:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/NIKONJ1/NIKONJ1A7.HTM
just use comparometer, and let your eyes judge.

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Stephen_C
By Stephen_C (Sep 23, 2011)

So, the lenses for the J1 must be awful, as the Olympus XZ1 looks better at 100-400, on par at 800 and is better than the XZ-1 at higher ISOs. The XZ-1 has a faster lens and would likely be used at lower ISOs than a J1 for any given situation, of course.

The J1 is worse than M43 at all ISOs. That is simply a disaster.

We will see if having "Nikon" printed on the front will save it.

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Andrew Higgins
By Andrew Higgins (Sep 23, 2011)

Getting increasingly fed up with the comments whinging about sensor size and images quality. To me, I'm thinking about the possibilities offered by a very small, fast shooting camera.
Anyone old enough, or wise enough, to remember if Oscar Barnack and Leica were derided for using such 'small' film...

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unknown member
By (unknown member) (Sep 23, 2011)

I'm not crazy about DPR, but there is "critical", and there is just plain "rude". DPR posted some images, and they are better than those I found on another site, particularly the high ISO stuff. If you want something to your liking, pony up the money and buy your own. It will be available soon enough. Or spend all your time trying to talk other people out of buying it, if that floats your boat.
According to specs this new camera has the best AF system of any mirrorless, and perhaps better than some DSLRs (5DII perhaps). It remains to be seen, but I think maybe the nasty criticism might be premature.
Personally, I'll hang on to my NEX 5N for awhile. But this camera is interesting.

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Tom Cody
By Tom Cody (Sep 23, 2011)

It seems to me that DPR is being very biased on the new Nikon 1. If you remember back when the Nex 3/5 first came out, DPR gave them very low scores (65 or 66% I believe), then after a firmware upgrade, the score went up to 70%.

Here are a few quotes from the Nex 3/5 review:

…We weren't impressed with the cameras when we first encountered them but an unexpectedly significant firmware update has dramatically improved the shooting experience for enthusiast users…Where the NEXs really impress is the PASM modes where you can take full advantage of the large, very capable sensor…

Well, the Nikon 1 does not have PASM modes or a large very capable sensor, and no firmware upgrade will ever fix that.

So if DPR uses the same logic and reviews the Nikon V1 from the same perspective as they did the Nex 3/5, then you would logically expect a score <65%.

Don’t count on it, DPR is clearly is biased and I'm betting they will give the Nikon 1 a 70% +

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Caleido
By Caleido (Sep 23, 2011)

Are you eleven years old?

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Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (Sep 23, 2011)

I bet whatever we say you'll whine about it...

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ezradja
By ezradja (Sep 23, 2011)

you just don't know how much N pay DP. :) probably very good sums of *censored*

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Tom Cody
By Tom Cody (Sep 23, 2011)

I actually think the Nikon 1 will be a quite capable tool for the intended market segment. It really does seem to address issues for that crowd.

All I'm saying is if DPR reviews the Nikon 1 from an "enthusiast" photographer perspective, the lack of some basic controls that the "enthusiast" market segment expects, should get the Nikon 1 a low grade.

If you review if from the P&S perspective, it should probably get a high score for every thing but value, and then it will be quite a dance to get it the score to 70%, but you will surly pull it off. I'm waiting to be entertained on the creative scoring.

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mister_roboto
By mister_roboto (Sep 23, 2011)

Hah! A 65% is fairly respectable, DPR doesn't inflate their recommendations.

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TheronFamily
By TheronFamily (Sep 24, 2011)

it does not have a PASM button. Its in the menu system.

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mcshan
By mcshan (Sep 23, 2011)

Cameras are available with sensors varying in size. What I don't get is why some insist that cameras with the smallest size sensors (example Pentax Q) are equal in image quality to M4/3 qnd DSLR. Who buys a camera and says "if only it had a smaller sensor I would love it!"?

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Jens_G
By Jens_G (Sep 23, 2011)

This camera must have been the brainchild of a marketer or a businessman, because no engineer would produce such rubbish.

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bryanbrun
By bryanbrun (Sep 23, 2011)

It must have torture for the engineers on this project. Creating all of this great tech (10fps, electronic shutter, decent 1600 ISO) and to know that it was go to be wasted on a sensor too small to compete.
No one will buy a $900 dollar camera that cannot perform basic DOF control.

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DonM999
By DonM999 (Sep 23, 2011)

Pentax A110, interchangeable lenses, SLR, 110 cartridge loading, big flop.

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mister_roboto
By mister_roboto (Sep 23, 2011)

Actually- I would love to have that camera today. And I may pick up a Nikon 1 model in 20 years (5 in digital years)

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Paul Guba
By Paul Guba (Sep 23, 2011)

Now that I have hardly examined the 28 random images of a brand new camera I have never actually used or even seen in real life I am now fully capable of making educated decision that I will share with all the world. Further more my total lack of experience in testing cameras and the limited experience I have in using my own qualifies me as fountain of information.

Here is the one iota of information I have been able to extrapolate from the nearly 300 post. No of you know anything. Since you have no practical experience with the camera you are simply guessing. Lie to yourself and the rest of us if you need to but the reality is none of have any experience with this camera.

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arhmatic
By arhmatic (Sep 23, 2011)

I assume you have no practical experience with the camera either. So how can you tell we are wrong?

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (Sep 24, 2011)

Well said. No of us know anything. I guess we'll all have to buy one to find out for sure.

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DaveMarx
By DaveMarx (Sep 24, 2011)

He didn't say "wrong." "Right" is also possible. However, in the absence of experience and/or knowledge, right and wrong are more a matter of luck than of genius. We're having lots of fun debating, but we are not in a position to prove anything, or know anything beyond a shadow of a doubt. On the other hand, we can firmly hold onto our beliefs with all the courage dogma provides.

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f_stops
By f_stops (Sep 23, 2011)

Really nice shots for web posting. Just like my iPhone.

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bentheoandrews
By bentheoandrews (Sep 23, 2011)

Everyone keeps saying "wow, those high ISO photos are excellent for a camera with a small sensor". The thing is, you can get cameras like the Nex 5N with a bigger sensor, that is cheaper and gives much better results at much higher ISO levels.
Also, everyone is talking about ISO and DOF - what about the colour? Am I the only one who thinks the colours, especially the reds (and in particular on the ketchup bottle) look really washed out? And the WB! All the shots look like they were taken through a blue filter!
On its own this might stand up, but next to m4/3 and NEX, this brings too little too late. All the magic tricks it does might be great, but unless the IQ is there it's a bit "fur coat and no knickers".

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Klay
By Klay (Sep 23, 2011)

What is it about "fur coat and no knickers" that is unappealing?

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skytripper
By skytripper (Sep 23, 2011)

If putting the largest possible sensor in the smallest possible body was the only objective, the Sony NEX cameras would be big winners. But it's the size of the package, not the size of the body, that buyers are interested in. When you put a big honking lens on a tiny body, you end up with a big honking package.

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ezradja
By ezradja (Sep 23, 2011)

right, just like this system, once you put zoom lenses (or, as they said they would, put F-mount lenses with adapter) you'll ended up with a big honking package, with tiny sensor and worse ISO 1600 images.

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DaveMarx
By DaveMarx (Sep 24, 2011)

What about the colour? A few quick test shots, in less than controlled conditions, with almost no experience with the equipment? Hardly the basis for drawing a conclusion, for good, or for bad.

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dave
By dave (Sep 23, 2011)

for generations IQ meant intelligence quotient, whilst the IQ of this new system looks promising I have grave reservations about the IQ of many of the Dpreview posters. It seems many haven't even bothered to go to the NIkon site and look at the MTF plots of these new lenses, some of which are stunning. Unlike Alvis 11 who seems to show an above average IQ many display the intellectual capacity of a drunken amoeba.

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Doug Frost
By Doug Frost (Sep 23, 2011)

Numbers and graphs don't count for nearly as much as real world results. These sample shots are unimpressive. And BTW, keep your ad hominem attacks to yourself.

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hikenhi
By hikenhi (Sep 23, 2011)

Ok, & the Verdict is in--It sucks. I'm not sure why these camera manufactures are making these compact interchangable lens cameras? Is it because they need a new market to fix their P&S which are becoming extinct because of Smart Phones that can take near as good of pictures as them? Or is it a genius idea that they hope that thos people will fall in love with and better P&S camera and like the advantages of interchangible lens cameras and be more likely to buy a real DSLR some day?

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babart
By babart (Sep 23, 2011)

Nikon, Pentax, and other shortly I assume, are responding to local markets in Japan, where there is a glut of miniaturized everything. Since Japan is a huge market for camera manufacturers, their response is only logical. I only wish they'd spend more time developing mirrorless cameras with a viewfinder and an APS-C or micro 4/3 sensor. That said, however, each tool in the photographic arsenal has it's place. Read the next reply to glean some useful comments along those lines.
BAB

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Ashley Pomeroy
By Ashley Pomeroy (Sep 23, 2011)

More to the point, do camera manufacturers really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

Seriously though, camera manufacturers make interchangeable lens compacts because it lets them sell a product at a higher price point than a conventional compact; camera buyers pay that premium because they like the idea of swapping lenses, although in practice they never buy a second lens. That's why these new cameras exist. There's a lot of guff about image quality and depth of field and so forth, but in the real world people buy on looks and price.

You might have the illusion from reading comments threads like this that the majority of camera buyers care about shadow noise, CA and so forth; but we are a tiny, tiny minority, a thing scattering clustered from all over the world.

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (Sep 24, 2011)

At last, somebody who gets it. Gosh, they might have to sell 3 of these little guys to make as much as they do on a D700! And wait until the limited edition paisley ones come out (Japan only, Nikon US will not service). Not only does mediocrity rock; it's a hell of a lot more profitable than perfectionism.

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Alvis II
By Alvis II (Sep 23, 2011)

I welcome that Nikon has simply produced another useful tool. A nearly complete and well thought system infact. The only missing thing is a good ultra-wideangle which I am looking forward for exploring the extra DOF on offer. I think the IQ and noise are not an issue both theoretically and especially after seeing these samples. I use compacts (Panasonic and Fuji), Olympus M4/3, Nikon DX and FX cameras. I still use film. All systems have their use and I use them all. Now I am just curious to see what the V1 and its CX format allows me to do in the real world. That's all there is to it folks. Cameras systems are just tools.

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Reilly Diefenbach
By Reilly Diefenbach (Sep 23, 2011)

Pic after vertical pic after vertical pic. Earth to DPR, we're looking at these on 16X9 monitors!

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jenella
By jenella (Sep 23, 2011)

Images are horrible IMO.. I dont see at a glance any difference between a P&S. No interesting DOF or anything. Maybe it was a case of "whos behind the camera-itis.
I can post unedited images from my d700 and it will at least make you want to click on it.

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zubs
By zubs (Sep 23, 2011)

Images are nothing jump up and down about. Save your energy by another camera :-)

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Ibida Bab
By Ibida Bab (Sep 23, 2011)

Chinese plastic...

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chadley_chad
By chadley_chad (Sep 23, 2011)

Whatever might be good about this camera, it has a pathetic sized sensor and costs from £829 on pre-order from Warehouse Express.

Expect to see ZERO sold!!!!!!!!!!

Nuff said (other than Nikon obviously haven't heard about this thing called the recession and takes pro and newbie camera users alike for rich mugs!)

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Magnus W
By Magnus W (Sep 23, 2011)

I just don't get one thing.

All you Nikon shooters saying "great, we will get super teles FOR FREE", do you really think those lenses have 2.7x resolving power to spare?

Inquiring minds want to know.

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Vertigo_101
By Vertigo_101 (Sep 23, 2011)

Yes I think so. A lens able to resolve on a 44 kpix/mm2 D7000 or a 66 kpix/mm2 D400 (sony A77 24mp sensor) should be able to resolve on the 87 kpix/mm2 V1 sensor.

Moreover, m4/3 lenses and even p&s lenses resolve on sensor with much greater pixel densities. I think a good F-mount prime can do at least as good, even if it was not designed for it initially.

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Magnus W
By Magnus W (Sep 23, 2011)

m4/3 and p&s lenses are designed to resolve to their sensors, which F lenses also are of course. I happen to own a 24Mp full frame camera and can see it outresolving everything but my most expensive pro glass (300/2.8, 85/1.4 etc). 24Mp in APS-C is absolutely insanely much, and the V1 sensor is as you point out even more densely packed.

And the proponents of this as a tele camera are not pro glass users but rather "look now my old 300/4 will be a 810/4".

I just don't see that happening, but of course, digiscoping was in vogue once too...

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Vertigo_101
By Vertigo_101 (Sep 23, 2011)

Many F lenses were designed for film, and most of them work (very) well on already densely packed APS-C sensors. The best of them (say 300/2.8, etc.) are probably able to go one more step beyond.

I agree that for less qualitative zoom lenses (e.g. 18-200), the result on the v1 sensor is unsure.

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Vertigo_101
By Vertigo_101 (Sep 23, 2011)

About the "my old 300/4 will be a 810/4", I agree that if people then use their 300/4+v1 to shoot subjects from a longer distance and still by handholding, will be disappointed with stability problems and the increase of DOF.

Still, consider the case of birders that used their 300/2.8, say from a hide, but had to crop pictures in PS because the bird was too far (happens all the time for wildlife). With a V1 on the same lens, and from the same distance, they should be able to get more detailed images, without cropping in PS, and with no DOF increase.

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marike6
By marike6 (Sep 27, 2011)

When they photograph ketchup bottles and chubby chicks jeans in bright 12 noon light, it wouldn't matter if they had used a Hasselblad. The images would have still been bad. But this has little to do with the camera. Sample on Nikon USA look quite good, even though there is slight smearing due to high ISO NR.

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Stephen_C
By Stephen_C (Sep 23, 2011)

For this camera to compete with M43, Sony, or Samsung it would need to have better images, be smaller, and/or be cheaper than these cameras. The Nikon cameras are have lower image quality, are bigger and are more expensive, which makes them a non-starter.

The only think going for this camera is that it has "Nikon" printed on the front. If Samsung had made this camera would anyone be paying attention, aside from derisive laughter?

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AnHund
By AnHund (Sep 23, 2011)

It has a lot better high ISO capability than an Olympus PEN which is noisy already at ISO 200 in high contrast scenes.

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unknown member
By (unknown member) (Sep 23, 2011)

The E-P3 with EVF is DSLR size and not even close on IQ, it has no phase detect AF, but people are buying that. Only the NEX 5N can match a DSLR IQ, and it is pretty large as well. The X100 is a boutique camera with a fixed lens (the same thing that killed rqange finders long ago). The GH2 does great movies, but it is DSLR size, again without the IQ. I don't know if comparisons like these can actually be used to predict sales.

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unknown member
By (unknown member) (Sep 23, 2011)

Forgot to mention that all those cameras, except the NEX 5N costs more than an entry DSLR.

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fotoliefhebber
By fotoliefhebber (Sep 23, 2011)

When I look at the pictures I think the whole time that a am looking at a crop from a tele lens . It has nothing to do with sharpness of contrast but just the total impression. Even with the times square shot. Perhaps it is the wide height scale of the standing pictures.

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harold1968
By harold1968 (Sep 23, 2011)

sorry, why would I get this over a good P&S (e.g. canon s95)
its bigger, hiddeously expensive, and no DOF, so whats the point ?

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Tom Christiansen
By Tom Christiansen (Sep 23, 2011)

It doesn't have "no DOF". To the contrary, it has a great deal of it. That's part of the point. The people whom this camera is targeted at don't want blurry pictures. They want as much in focus as possible. How could you miss something so obvious?

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obican
By obican (Sep 23, 2011)

Then wouldn't they be happier with a P&S?

As far as I know, someone with no photography background will always want "your camera is amazing, subject is very sharp and everything else is blur, oh it looks so nice" thing.

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AnHund
By AnHund (Sep 23, 2011)

S95 us good, but these ones are a lot better. Try taking an s95 shot at ISO 3200 - it is close to useless.

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MaikeruN
By MaikeruN (Sep 23, 2011)

if you think ISO3200 on s95 is close to useless you should learn to take pictures with a compact

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (Sep 27, 2011)

I'm sure it's better than the S95 but honestly, at ISO 3200 the results from my 5D II are too noisy so it's really a question of what you are willing to accept.

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Dark_Knight
By Dark_Knight (Sep 23, 2011)

I finally get it! Nikon was innovative. They have carved out a niche between point-and-shoot cameras and m4/3d's. They are not competing against anyone. It's a new camera system built around a new size sensor.
This explains why many people are confused and disappointed. It is a new category we are not familiar with. I thought they were going to one-up micro 4/3rds but they went the other direction.
It would have saved us much discussion if they just came out and said 'this is a point and shoot camera with interchangeable lenses'. Maybe then we would have been blown away.
Maybe next year they will come out with a new sensor that will be somewhere between APS-C and Full Frame. That way I can get one step closer to full frame (I have money but not that kind of money). Let's see the progression: we have CX = 1" sensor, DX = APS-C sensor, FX=Full Frame Sensor. So the sensor between the DX and FX must be called the EX. Cant' wait!
Hope we can all get some sleep now.

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misolo
By misolo (Sep 23, 2011)

That would be Canon's 1.3-crop APS-H format... But then it's so close to 35mm format that there's no point in designing lenses that are specific for it. Rumors are that Canon's getting rid of APS-H in the next iteration of its DSLRs.

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raizans
By raizans (Sep 23, 2011)

Could you post more samples taken at ISO 800 and 1600 in low light with large apertures, preferably in contrasty light, maybe some areas of shadow, etc.?

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hikenhi
By hikenhi (Sep 23, 2011)

I'm not as impressed by either the Pentax-Q or this Camera in their attempt to make a mini DSLR that can shoot as good as “A” DSLR. They chose one of the ugliest places to shoot and it's really hard to tell what this camera is really capable of, but, under similar light and gloom—it’s not anywhere near most APC-S sensor DSLR in terms of image quality. I’ve seen some really good samples of the Pentax-Q that would challenge this camera on IQ, but we really need a side-by-side comparison test to crown a champ. In briefly reading up on these two cameras that Nikon and Pentax make considering the build quality, design, features, I tip my hat to the Q over the J1, but I’m not surprised because Pentax spent a considerable amount of money and time building there Q.

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AnHund
By AnHund (Sep 23, 2011)

Looks great. Especially high ISO is great considering the sensor size.

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Debankur Mukherjee
By Debankur Mukherjee (Sep 23, 2011)

If this camera can generate quality images even at high ISO then its a big achievement by Nikon. I am waiting for the Lab test and complete review where images can be compared from different bodies.

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Debankur Mukherjee
By Debankur Mukherjee (Sep 23, 2011)

If this camera can generate quality images even at high ISO then its a big achievement by Nikon. I am waiting for the Lab test and complete review where images can be compared from different bodies.

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vFunct
By vFunct (Sep 23, 2011)

It looks like this is the best consumer camera on the market.

This camera instantly made the Sony & u43 systems into useless junk.

u43 and Sony NEX sucks because the sensor is too big and uncompetitive against Nikon's DX system.

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greg57
By greg57 (Sep 23, 2011)

You're a funny troll you know...

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Rooru S
By Rooru S (Sep 23, 2011)

hahahahahaha good one

seriously...you need to be kidding with that argument...

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Anadrol
By Anadrol (Sep 23, 2011)

ridiculous troll...

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waxwaine
By waxwaine (Sep 23, 2011)

Nikon copying Pentax?
Nikons developers are not well payed to be more creative.
Next innovation from Nikon could be a 645DX :P

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Jackie Q Acomson
By Jackie Q Acomson (Sep 23, 2011)

Agree with you 100%.

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zzopitD2X
By zzopitD2X (Sep 23, 2011)

peepng at 400%, not bad at all.....

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lightsculpture
By lightsculpture (Sep 23, 2011)

I really have no issue with the size of the sensor. However, this market segment is about making different compromises to get the right balance of size, image quality and price.

Image quality aside, the sacrifice that Nikon made in the area of sensor size here doesn't seem to translate to significant gains in the other aspects such as a smaller size or lower price (than competing NEX or m43 cameras). This makes one wonder, why bother with such a considerably smaller sensor then?

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rocklobster
By rocklobster (Sep 23, 2011)

The NEF so called RAW files are almost totally devoid of chroma noise at high ISO (no sensor is that good) meaning that they have been processed to remove this and you can see some artifacts from this process. So, you may hope to get better images from the RAW than the JPEG from the camera but perhaps not have as much control as you want for noise reduction.

Having said that, those high ISO images are pretty good for a sensor of that size but overall M4/3 images are better IMHO.

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steven8217
By steven8217 (Sep 23, 2011)

I tried to open those NEF RAW file with my Nikon Capture NX 2 (bundle with Nik ColorEfex Pro), it was not supported at the moment. I then open the NEF file with Nikon ViewNX 2 on my calibrated 2560x1440 resolution monitor, I like what I saw especially on ISO-3200 RAW file, the noise is cleaner and seems better than my now old D300S on image noise.
I would guess that once Nikon Capture NX 2 start supporting V1/J1, the software can even do a better job on distortion and Color Moire/auto lateral color abrration control.

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dudu_307
By dudu_307 (Sep 23, 2011)

Steven, update Capture NX 2 to 2.2.8 with V1/J1 support:

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-11665-11943

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CNY_AP
By CNY_AP (Sep 23, 2011)

Nothing prevents Nikon from using a larger sensor in later "mirrorless" models, but only the current 35mm lenses (or new lenses designed for a large mirrorless camera) would work. How do current lenses work with this camera anyhow - is there a huge muliplier / crop factor?

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micahmedia
By micahmedia (Sep 22, 2011)

I've read some criticisms of detail, but taken into PS and sharpened, the detail is certainly there. It's a bit smudged in the high ISO shots straight from camera. I wonder how ACR will do with the raws?! Tempted to download the Capture NX trial, but I suspect that will be the frustrating crap it has always been...

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sar12611
By sar12611 (Sep 22, 2011)

Its easy to get lost in comparisons of 'sharpness' and 'quality' when you benchmark cameras against each other. The initial benchmark that needs to be established in with the tried and true 35 mm format that was popular years ago. I think today's pocket cameras are constantly being rushed to the market..a marketing department approach. There is such a vast range of quality all all price points. All additional features of video and such distract from what ultimately makes a good camera at any price point: Optics, Build Quality and Ultimately the results (influenced by 'in-camera' processing). Older point and shoot 35 mm cameras could produce incredible prints up to 20 x 30 based on the film utilized, (asa 50, 64 or 100) - and of course, optics. This fact needs to be kept in mind even though we have progressed to a digital era. Then we would have a proper perspective in conducting reviews and making assessments. Just a primer for thought....

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micahmedia
By micahmedia (Sep 22, 2011)

I'd like to see a comparison done for real. Hmm. I wonder if I know anybody with a 35-point and shoot that still works? Most people have thrown away their throw-away cameras!

My educated guess is that the pocket 35 cams won't compare too well at reasonable apertures. A comparison I did years ago of 35mm negative to my D2x left me stunned at how much the digital images surpassed what I could get from Reala 100 with the same lenses.

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Stuntman Mike
By Stuntman Mike (Sep 22, 2011)

MMM...ediocre.

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Carsten Saager
By Carsten Saager (Sep 22, 2011)

No photo uses anything the Nikon might be capable of - completely useless collection of bland photos where I wouldn't even considered pressing the shutter.

What can be seen: slow lens, small sensor - large DOF. Great, I'd stick with a G12/P7000 that really fits into a pocket.

This Motion capture sounds interesting, but nowhere an explanation how the selection is made. if I have to rely on the Expeed's decision - no thanks.

For the price you get a competent DSLR or a m4/3. Maybe the Nikon has better AF, but that's easy to do if everything is in focus.

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