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Sony unveils SLT-A77 flagship APS-C DSLR-rival

By dpreview staff on Aug 24, 2011 at 05:01 GMT
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Sony has released the SLT-A77, a successor to its A700 semi-pro DSLR. The long-promised A77 makes use of Sony's translucent mirror technology to offer an impressive 12 frame-per-second shooting rate, despite its 24MP APS CMOS sensor. In addition has the highest-resolution electronic viewfinder we've ever encountered, with a 2.4M dot OLED viewfinder that rivals the company's full-frame A900 for size. We've been using a pre-production A77 for just over a week and have prepared a hands-on preview including real-world sample gallery. Has it been worth the wait for the Alpha faithful?

Click here to read our full preview of the Sony Alpha SLT-A77

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Press Release:

SONY'S LATEST α DSLR CAMERAS BRING NEW LEVELS OF SPEED, PERFORMANCE AND CREATIVITY TO PHOTO ENTHUSIASTS

SAN DIEGO, Aug. 24, 2011 – Blazing speed, enhanced image quality, high resolution and incredible performance are just some of the features advanced amateurs and photo enthusiasts will find in Sony's newest alpha cameras, models SLT-A77 (α77) and SLT-A65 (α65).

Sony's latest refinements to its Translucent Mirror Technology make these new cameras the fastest, most responsive interchangeable lens cameras in their class, as well as set new performance benchmarks that even professional DSLRs have yet to achieve. The α77 and α65 both feature a newly developed Exmor™ APS HD CMOS sensor with 24.3 effective megapixel resolution, as well as the world's first XGA OLED Tru-Finder™ viewfinder. The sensor teams with the next generation of Sony's BIONZ® image processing engine to handle huge amounts of high speed data from the camera sensor, enabling unprecedented response times and flawless image quality with ultra-low noise when shooting still images or Full HD video.

"We feel that these cameras are not only a significant evolution of our breakthrough Translucent Mirror Technology," said Mike Kahn, director of the alpha camera business group for Sony Electronics. "They're also a revolution in terms of redefining how this unique technology can be put to use by enthusiasts."
The much anticipated successor to Sony's acclaimed α700 DSLR, the α77 boasts the world's fastest continuous autofocus (AF) shooting performance (among DSLRs in Aug 2011), capturing a burst of full resolution, 24 megapixel images at 12 frames per second with full-time phase-detection AF. The α65 achieves a similarly impressive 10fps shooting speed.

Precision AF tracking of moving subjects is more precise with the α77 due to a new 19-point autofocus system with 11 cross sensors. The α65 boasts 15-point AF with three cross sensors. Tracking Focus maintains accurate focus lock on a moving subject – even if the target is momentarily obscured. Additionally, a new electronic front shutter curtain achieves a minimum release time lag of approximately 50 milliseconds, comparable to much more expensive professional-class DSLRs.

The α77 and α65 further refine Sony's acclaimed Fast Continuous AF Full HD Movie shooting, already featured on previous Sony Translucent Mirror cameras. Phase Detection maintains accurate focus during video shooting of portrait subjects, even when they're moving at fast speeds.

Unprecedented image quality and creative options

A broad sensitivity range of ISO 100-16000 expands (α77 only) down to ISO 50. At the highest sensitivities, both cameras can freeze fast action or capture atmospheric low-noise shots without flash. Low ISO settings are ideal when used with a long exposure to create expressive shots, such as splashing water.

Both cameras showcase a remarkably crisp OLED Tru-Finder™ viewfinder, the world's first of its kind. With a 2359k dot (XGA) resolution, this precision electronic viewfinder offers a bright, highly detailed, high contrast image with 100 percent frame coverage and a wide field of view comparable to the most advanced class optical viewfinders.

However, unlike optical viewfinders, users have expansive customization capabilities through the XGA OLED Tru-Finder™ viewfinder and can preview the effects of adjusting exposure, white balance and other settings in real-time. Photographers can also make fine focus adjustments via a zoomed-in portion of the image.

The Smart Teleconverter displays an enlarged central portion of the image sensor, allowing compositions to be displayed clearly on the OLED viewfinder and captured as 12 megapixel images with a digital zoom factor of 1.4x or 2x.

In another first for DSLR cameras, both new models can capture Full HD video at 60p (progressive) frame rates – incorporating the recently introduced AVCHD™ Progressive (Ver. 2.0) format. Also, 24p shooting is available for capturing beautiful cinematic video footage. Manual focusing and P/A/S/M exposure modes, familiar to creative filmmakers, also can provide enhanced control during video shooting.
Shooters can compose and review stills and video on the adjustable-angle three-inch Xtra Fine LCD™ display that offers high resolution (921k dot) and TruBlack™ technology for superb detail and contrast. As an extra refinement, the α77 introduces the world's first three-way adjustable screen that tilts and pivots freely for effortless framing at any angle (α65: two-way adjust LCD).

Revised ergonomics on both cameras include a comfortably contoured new grip design and tactile new button layout for 'eyes off' operation while viewing via the high-resolution XGA OLED Tru-Finder™ viewfinder.

The α77 adds front and rear control dials for intuitive fingertip operation and a separate top-mounted LCD data display. The durable body features magnesium alloy panels for strength and lightness. Key controls are sealed against the effects of dust and moisture, complementing similar levels of protection offered by the new SAL1650 lens, VG-C77AM Vertical Grip for α77 and HVL-F43AM flash unit.
A new shutter unit on the α77 is tested up to 150,000 cycles and supports an ultra-fast minimum 1/8000 sec shutter speed (1/250 sec flash sync). On-board GPS allows automatic geo-tagging of photos and video clips with location data.

New DT 16-50mm F2.8 SSM zoom lens and accessories

The growing range of compatible A-mount lenses for both cameras now includes the quiet, bright DT 16-50mm F2.8 SSM standard zoom with 16mm wide angle coverage that's ideal for both portrait and everyday shooting.

The high-performance lens features a dust- and moisture-resistant design, and offers a zoom range of approximately 3x range at constant wide F2.8 aperture. Optical performance is assured by aspherical glass and three ED (Extra Low Dispersion) lens elements to minimize aberration at all focal lengths. An internal Super Sonic wave Motor (SSM) drive enables fast, quiet autofocus.

An optional dust- and moisture-resistant VG-C77AM Vertical Grip for α77 assures comfortable handling in vertical shooting positions. It can house up to two NP-FM500H InfoLITHIUM® batteries, doubling shooting stamina up to approximately 1060 shots (via LCD monitor)/940 shots (via Tru-Finder™ viewfinder) when using Memory Stick PRO Duo™ media. Other new A-mount system accessories include a back pack (LCS-BP2), soft carrying cases (LCS-SC21 and LCS-SC8), LCD protectors and eyepiece cups.

Pricing and Availability

The new α77 Translucent Mirror interchangeable lens camera will be available in a kit with the new SAL1650 f2.8 lens for about $2000, and offered as body-only for about $1400. The SAL1650 lens will also be sold separately for about $700.

The new VG-C77AM vertical grip, designed for the α77 camera, will be available in October for about $300.

The new α65 Translucent Mirror interchangeable lens camera will be available in a kit with a standard 18-55mm lens (SAL1855) for about $1000, and offered as body-only for about $900.
Both the α77 and α65 cameras kits and the new SAL1650 lens will be available this October at Sony retail stores (www.store.sony.com) as well as other authorized retailers throughout the Sony dealer network.

For "sneak peak" videos of the new products, please visit www.sony.com/cameravideos.
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Total comments: 122
CartersImages
By CartersImages (May 5, 2012)

I bought the Sony A100 which was a nice 6mp camera in it's time, good foundation to start off with, but then I upgraded to the A700 all while owning a pro photography business. The A700 was a major jump in upgrades, but the ISO, and noise was very similar to the A100 (BAD). As in shooting a wedding in a church without a flash was not going to happen. Now with my new upgrade the A77 one word keeps coming to mind (Satisfied). Paired with the right lense I rarely ever use my flash, unless i'm looking for different effects. When my customers look at their beautiful pics they think about the photographer not the camera. Thanks Sony for the increase in business. Would love to see WIFI accessories.

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mra1948812
By mra1948812 (Apr 20, 2012)

I don't understand DPR sometimes. They gave the A65 a "gold" award and then turned around and said about the A77 ... "somewhat mushy JPEG image quality, high noise levels and slightly laggy operation stop the A77 from getting a gold award." Don't these cameras have the same sensors? Why is it gold in one camera and not the other. By the way, I've never seen "somewhat mushy" jpegs from any Sony dslr in my experienc.

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dbo
By dbo (Oct 19, 2011)

Some guys are quite funny regarding their technical concerns.
@mantra, have you ever done a testing of when diffraction is visible and annoying?
In my opinion diffraction is except for macro photographers a non-issue or at least negligible.

Has anyone expected superiour low light capability with 24MP on an APSC sensor? Yes, I agree it's quite visible from ISO1600 on a screen with 50% size or more. But who cares? Me at least not. I shoot around 99,5% of my pictures on max ISO800, and even pics shot with ISO3200 are not looking bad when printed at 18x13cm.

The a77 is a nice piece of modern camera development by sony. It of course will not be flawless, but it will most likely deliver what we want.
I'm certainly sure that it will be a worthy successor of the mighty a700.

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harleydavidson
By harleydavidson (Sep 11, 2011)

Meant to say sell my Olympus E-30..

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harleydavidson
By harleydavidson (Sep 11, 2011)

Preordering today and I also do like the kit lens too. Very nice! Now gotta go sell my Olympus E-300 and OLY Glass...

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Peter iNova
By Peter iNova (Sep 3, 2011)

Specifications link seems to be dysfunctional.

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S0NY
By S0NY (Aug 28, 2011)

Check this thread : http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1037&message=39220197

About [Experience] Sony A77 24.3 MP Translucent Mirror Digital SLR

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sirok
By sirok (Aug 27, 2011)

Nice Move Sony ,,Thinking/Moving forward into the 21st Century, Leaving some Old Technologies behind...Can't wait to see the FullFrame version of this next year.. remember the Tortoise and the Hair. Here comes Sony

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Leo "Zoom"
By Leo "Zoom" (Aug 26, 2011)

Looking at this "progress" I am more and more satisfied with my current camera... 24 mpix, aps-c... There always will be freaks, who will claim it is highly usefull. But I make excellent 30x60 cm spreads out of D700's 12 mpix. I doubt that this sensor will be at least equal in high ISOs or DR. And I can't imagine myself looking to another LCD instead or real view through the lens... Stupig strategy, Sony...

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wmac
By wmac (Aug 29, 2011)

Image processing 101: every additional bit of information IS useful. Calling a company names does not make your argument legit. Rather it shows your personality.

If 12M pixel is enough for you, go for it.

Even gigapixel photos can be useful. I always like photos as sharp as possible with as much details as possible.

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chmielarski
By chmielarski (Aug 29, 2011)

you are right, "Stupig strategy, Sony..." tell me what strategy Canon and Nikon have?

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Ribeiral
By Ribeiral (Aug 31, 2011)

The extra resolution is particularly useful when you can use the teleconverter feature to compose your picture. EVF is definitely the future.

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George E620
By George E620 (Aug 26, 2011)

Does the A77 with all those extra pixels provide a better platform for small macro photos(cropped images). You would think so, but you may well be wrong.

Why choose particular settings?- maximum depth of field before defraction sets in - for most applications this can be pushed at least 1EV further
Why choose these particular cameras? - a variety relative common mid/high range SLR's with a variety of sensor sizes. 50mm lens

Manuf. Camera Pixels necessary to show all of the height estimated Canadian $ cost of camera "Cost per pixel
Olympus E-5 424 1700 $4.01
Panasonic GH2 485 900 $1.86
Nikon D7000 443 1200 $2.71
Canon 7D 476 1460 $3.07
Canon 1D Mark IV 456 5000 $10.97
Sony A77 490 1400 $2.86
Nikon D3x 491 7300 $14.86
Image quality:lens,dyn.range/tones, movement,light,processing, anti-alias filter.
Conclusion. Try the various cameras.

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LVPhoto1
By LVPhoto1 (Aug 26, 2011)

Look out Nikon & Canon; I have been seriously monitoring the progress of Sony DSLR Technology ;)

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Leo "Zoom"
By Leo "Zoom" (Aug 26, 2011)

C&N are celebrating Sony's strange decisions :)

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iae aa eia
By iae aa eia (Aug 26, 2011)

Its design remindes me the Maxxum 7xi and some Pentax. Well done. I think Sony is in the right track exploring this market, and the design and innovations that this one and the 65 carry lives up to Minolta's tradition. The 2 MP EVF and its above 1 x magnification rocks!

Of course those mp are a crazy-sh*tting of an appeal (that will, unfortunately, still help to attrack) and the video does not impress (compared to the competition). I would like to see Sony bringing FF translucent cameras. I really would.

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mantra
By mantra (Aug 25, 2011)

APS 1.5 24MP is huge
i'm worried about lens diffraction

what should i take shot at max f6 ?

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ExpressionOfLife
By ExpressionOfLife (Aug 25, 2011)

I would be more concerned about the qualtiy of the output since what I have seen is sub-par at best.

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kwatersr
By kwatersr (Aug 28, 2011)

true, but the same thing was said about the D7000 when the first images from that camera were released

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Vitruvius
By Vitruvius (Aug 25, 2011)

Nice specs put it says a lot about the potential looks of the camera when they feel the need to place a gigantic yet gorgeous Zeiss Planar 1,4/85mm lens in front of the only picture of it. Why not the kit lens? Even the finish of what you can see looks pretty bad. Such a shame.

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Clint Dunn
By Clint Dunn (Aug 26, 2011)

Why would they put a cheap kit lens on their flag-ship APS-C camera for their promotional material??? Remind me to never hire you as my Marketing Director.

The camera looks fine, and frankly, who cares how it looks...all I care about is how the images look that come out of it.

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Vitruvius
By Vitruvius (Aug 26, 2011)

Obviosly you aren't in marteting either since you missed that fact that people are paying thousands of dollars for retro looking cameras with much weaker specs. Sorry, but if I have mony for that lens then I have money for a full frame camera too. It also means that they don't have much faith in their own lenses. And in fact the images with the kit lens look pretty pathetic. Obviosly making up for something.

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Clint Dunn
By Clint Dunn (Aug 27, 2011)

The 'retro looking cameras' you speak of are not dslr's.....and yeah i'm well aware of them. Your point still makes no sense. Sony will sell a tonne of these, wait and see. If you like the Fuji x100 or some other mirrorless 'retro' looking camera than why are you lurking on the Sony A77 announcement?? As for image quality based on a few snapshots...give me a break.

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Mssimo
By Mssimo (Aug 24, 2011)

Battery life Approx 470 shots.

So at 12FPS the battery will only last 39 secs. TERRIBLE BATTERY LIFE! ;)

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David Fell
By David Fell (Aug 25, 2011)

Brilliant for a photo flip book though - endless posibilities :-)

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wmac
By wmac (Aug 29, 2011)

470 shots is terrible?

A machine gun with a 30 bullet cartridge can be used for 30 separate shoots or 2 seconds of continuous. It does not make the gun terrible.

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Mattoid
By Mattoid (Aug 24, 2011)

Not being able to use auto focus and manual exposure in video at the same time pretty much negates any advantage over canon in terms of video production.

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ET2
By ET2 (Aug 24, 2011)

TWO things

(1) No current Canon can do 60p 1080 video
(2) You have the option to use AF without manual control, or no AF but manual control. On Canon you don't have that option.

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Lukino
By Lukino (Aug 24, 2011)

Phase detect autofocus during movie recording requires aperture wide open. And if you step down, keeping manual focus is much easier. But while stepped down it might be on par with other brands, this is the only large format camera that can take usable video of quick moving subjects!

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Mattoid
By Mattoid (Aug 24, 2011)

to ET2. The A77 bit-rate for 60p 1080 is 28Mbps. The canon 7D bitrate for 30p 1080 is 38Mbps. 60p 720 is the same. So in terms of data there is no improvement. Maybe the camera will be just as good, but there don't seem to be enough advantages for someone to switch systems.

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TrojMacReady
By TrojMacReady (Aug 24, 2011)

@mattoid:
The Canon codec is much less efficient. Just comparing the amount of data without taking codecs into account is meaningless.

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whtchocla7e
By whtchocla7e (Aug 24, 2011)

Guess you don't understand the technology behind phase detect autofocus...

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ET2
By ET2 (Aug 24, 2011)

bitrate by itself doesn't mean anything. Canon uses crappy codecs algorithms and needs more bitrate. Just look at 600D vs HXV9 video here for example
http://www.eoshd.com/content/2930/sony-hx9v-vs-canon-600d-dslr-gets-beat-by-compact-in-video-mode

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Mssimo
By Mssimo (Aug 24, 2011)

I think its 28Mbs with AVCHD 2.0 Would be like 150Mbs+ with canons codac

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Mattoid
By Mattoid (Aug 25, 2011)

@ whtchocla7e I wasn't aware it was supposed to be common knowledge. Even if it is impossible to have auto-focus and manual exposure at the same time, how does that make me wrong about it not being an advantage. My point stands.

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powertoold
By powertoold (Aug 25, 2011)

Because the movie-mode AF on Nikon and Canon is basically worthless.

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PentaxNick
By PentaxNick (Aug 25, 2011)

Never understood why anyone buys a DSLR to take video. It's a stills camera, the ergonomics are rubbish for video. Buy a dedicated video camera.

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Mattoid
By Mattoid (Aug 25, 2011)

@ PentaxNick. Video cameras that have full manual controls are a lot more expensive and they have smaller sensors. A good percentage of the adverts you see on tv or on the web will have been filmed on a 5D mk2, so you are way behind the times I'm afraid.

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RacingManiac
By RacingManiac (Aug 24, 2011)

Why SD card.....I like almost everything about this aside from the SD card...

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BMWX5
By BMWX5 (Aug 24, 2011)

then use Memory stick...

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Tormenborba
By Tormenborba (Aug 25, 2011)

what would you like to use a floppy disk???

why writing BS comments...

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PentaxNick
By PentaxNick (Aug 25, 2011)

SD is pretty much the standard these days. Even the 645D uses them.

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Ribeiral
By Ribeiral (Aug 31, 2011)

Actually SD is about the one thing I miss the most in my Canon 7D

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Myari
By Myari (Aug 24, 2011)

Where are the studio shots?

DPR announced they will post studio shots long before reviews.

Where are the studio shots?

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nathanleebush
By nathanleebush (Aug 24, 2011)

this isn't a review

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SDF
By SDF (Aug 24, 2011)

Is this the flagship? I thought A900 full frame was the flagship.

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Prognathous
By Prognathous (Aug 24, 2011)

Both the A900 and the A850 have been discontinued a while ago.

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Alpha Jack
By Alpha Jack (Aug 24, 2011)

A900 has not been discontinued. The headline says that this is the flagship APS-C offering. A900 being the only FF offering now I suppose is is still the flagship FF if not for the entire alpha lineup.

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ms18
By ms18 (Aug 24, 2011)

APS-C 24Mp must be more noise. Already loosing some light by SLT mechanism

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Prognathous
By Prognathous (Aug 24, 2011)

Have you noticed that 16MP are less noisy than 10MP sensors, and 10MP are less noisy than 6MP sensors? If not, just compare Nikon's D7000, D200 and D100.

The number of pixels has no direct impact on the overall noise of the image:

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Publications/DxOMark-Insights/More-pixels-offset-noise!

Don't rule out this 24MP sensor for high-ISO work until you have RAW files from it and until they are supported by your favorite RAW processing software. The JPEG's are not an an indication of the sensor quality, more like an indication that Sony's JPEG processing is still sub-par.

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Gavin 11
By Gavin 11 (Aug 24, 2011)

Agreed, good old Sonys JPEG's, god why oh why do they never learn on this one?

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Tomas_X
By Tomas_X (Aug 24, 2011)

Prognathous: Number of pixels has direct impact to the pixel area, because this is sensor area divide by number of pixels. The pixel area has direct impact to the captured signal. The captured signal has direct impact to the signal / noise ratio.
When you have less noise at the high megapixel sensor, you must reach it by the dramatic hardware and software technology improvements. The dramatic technology improvements has its limits. The effectivenes cannot be over 100%, you cannnot divide photons and electrones, you cannot force the photons in the light in the nature not to be stochastic and such limits.

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Prognathous
By Prognathous (Aug 24, 2011)

Tomas, have you read the dxomark.com explanation of why more pixels offset noise? If so, what exactly do you disagree with?

As for the limits of technology, we keep hearing this every time a new sensor generation with more pixels is announced. Bottom line: It's almost always better than the previous generation - in noise (for the whole image, not per pixel) and in other parameters such as DR.

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photo nuts
By photo nuts (Aug 24, 2011)

Prognathous: I have given up trying to convince people of facts. Either they refuse to read or they've read but have no comprehension. Enough said.

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Tomas_X
By Tomas_X (Aug 24, 2011)

Prognathous, where do you think DxOMark says about independence of the resolution and the noise?
Here is DxO method of measurement:
http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/About/Sensor-scores

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Tomas_X
By Tomas_X (Aug 24, 2011)

Prognathous, I have read on DxOMark:
"The argument above provides a method to compare cameras with different resolutions. A high-resolution camera can still be turned into a low-resolution camera by averaging its pixels. "
.. and I can tell arguments:
If you can resample down true RAW data, photon noise on the same resolution will be the same. But if you will resample after demosaicing, you will have more noise!!
The worse case is by read noise. Every pixel reading add some noise. You have 24 000 000x average read mistakes or 16 000 000x average read mistakes or 12 000 000x average read mistake.

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Ron007
By Ron007 (Aug 25, 2011)

Prognathous, I doubt you have read the page you linked. If you did read, I doubt you understood it as well. The page you are referring to clearly states - "Such comparisons conclusively show better results overall for high-resolution sensors, despite the increase in noise.". So whereas IN PRINTING the overall result might be better, there is no denying that the noise will be more. I know you are determined not to be convinced.

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arndsan
By arndsan (Aug 24, 2011)

lord - that's quite an hi tec overkill - no wonder people (including me) want back to the classic SLR style. or people can afford it buy a leica m9.

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BMWX5
By BMWX5 (Aug 24, 2011)

i think Walmart is still selling disposable cameras. Quite classic and simple to operate...

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Michel EOS400D SONY DSCV3
By Michel EOS400D SONY DSCV3 (Aug 24, 2011)

why can't we post on the forums ???????????

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jpr2
By jpr2 (Aug 24, 2011)

looks like site's servers crash = no contents in any of the discussion forums (12:28 CEST)

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Michel EOS400D SONY DSCV3
By Michel EOS400D SONY DSCV3 (Aug 24, 2011)

nobody else having problems ?

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Michel EOS400D SONY DSCV3
By Michel EOS400D SONY DSCV3 (Aug 24, 2011)

thanks jpr2 for the feedback

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Michel EOS400D SONY DSCV3
By Michel EOS400D SONY DSCV3 (Aug 24, 2011)

yes now it is obvious the forums are down, now they show empty

this morning threads were visible but you could not reply/post

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mpgxsvcd
By mpgxsvcd (Aug 24, 2011)

Will we see any video samples as well?

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reddevil1909
By reddevil1909 (Aug 24, 2011)

On this site you can see some video samples and the look very good.

http://blog.videoacademy.ch/2011/08/24/sony-alpha-77-first-look-review/

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Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Aug 24, 2011)

Charles Michel mentions the "Hitzeprobleme," of DSLR video, but does not seem to test the a77 limits. The alpine temperatures and humidity may have been benign. With the CHF so high these days, might that make JPY cameras cheaper for anyone paid in CHF?

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Czech photographer
By Czech photographer (Aug 24, 2011)

Does it has tethering function?
and the software what will be included does it fits MAC OS?

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ebrembo
By ebrembo (Aug 24, 2011)

not sure about tetherd but i read that its compartible with eye-fi(?) card that can send the images wirelesly to your pc which might work even better than usb based tethered.
about mac sorry but i have no clue. is sony pmb availiable for mac?

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Czech photographer
By Czech photographer (Aug 28, 2011)

Thanks Ebrembo
I checked eye-fi card but it is no the same what I wanted. I am looking to remote operate my camera to make nature pictures and still sitting comfortable.

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vagtanklan
By vagtanklan (Aug 24, 2011)

EVF - no care!

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ebrembo
By ebrembo (Aug 24, 2011)

you remind me of "digital-no care!" that i used to hear 10 years ago

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Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Aug 24, 2011)

Camera - no care. Me use stick. Draw in sand. Stick also good for fight. Good for hunt. Stick also not cost so many mammoth hides.

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don1jam
By don1jam (Aug 24, 2011)

That's very funnny

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Michel EOS400D SONY DSCV3
By Michel EOS400D SONY DSCV3 (Aug 24, 2011)

anyone also having trouble to post in the forums ?

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MisterBG
By MisterBG (Aug 24, 2011)

Forums seem completely screwed up right now.

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ser dpreview
By ser dpreview (Aug 24, 2011)

In the Samples Galleries there is not only one photograph at night, with lights

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Richt2000
By Richt2000 (Aug 24, 2011)

Not a fan of EVFs in m4/3 or NEX,so EVFs in DSLRs? Ha ha, Forget it.

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pete_mb
By pete_mb (Aug 24, 2011)

You've never tried EVFs on a NEX so how do you know you don't like them? :-)

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TakisL
By TakisL (Aug 24, 2011)

1. Nothing can much the quality of an optical viewfinder
2. Why to buy an DSLT if it has similar dimensions and size with a DSLR?

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TonGolem
By TonGolem (Aug 24, 2011)

hmm, let me think: electronic level, live histogram, live wb and iso changes, picture reviewing IN the viewfinder. also all other interesting parameters. 12fps. 100% fov + more than 1x magnification. no mirror lock-up ever necessary. i love my evf to be honest and it was one of the main reasons i bought the a55. best regards

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ebrembo
By ebrembo (Aug 24, 2011)

also remember that RF cameras can get sharp images at slow shutter speeds because they dont have the mirror "slap". slt's semi-reflective part does not need to move. have you used an a850/900 afted an aps dslr to see the diferense? and have you used slts to see how they compare to the dslrs?

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Tormenborba
By Tormenborba (Aug 25, 2011)

I had a canon 500D and I bet an evf in 2011 CAN"T be worst than a pentamirror!!!

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Jens_G
By Jens_G (Aug 27, 2011)

Focus peaking in EVF. #nuffsaid.

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patcam7122
By patcam7122 (Aug 24, 2011)

Is this some sort of a joke? You can clearly see noise even in the ISO 100 and ISO 200 photos.

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kevin_r
By kevin_r (Aug 24, 2011)

Problem - No mirror lockup!!!! ;-))))))))

1 upvote
sj2
By sj2 (Aug 24, 2011)

Very tempted by these Sonys. Very impressive line-up but I am going to say no. Sony is pure evil.

6 upvotes
Richt2000
By Richt2000 (Aug 24, 2011)

Agree. Sonys previous refusal to acknowledge bugs has put me off for life.

1 upvote
spbStan
By spbStan (Aug 24, 2011)

Thar is the main reason pros never have warmed up to Sony. Their investment is often undermined by their policy of making them very hard to repair after production is dropped, parts are a separate profit center so when the production stops, parts costs increase 10X overnight. That really screwed a lot of people in their pro audio division who bought $125,000 tape decks only to find a couple years later they were worthless due to lack of parts. Stick with companies who know a brand selection is a long term relationship, not just a single model, 12 month product cycle relationship.

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Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Aug 24, 2011)

By spbStan (Aug 24, 2011 at 10:23:41 GMT)
>...a lot of people in their pro audio division who bought $125,000 tape decks only to find a couple years later they were worthless due to lack of parts.

An 80s vintage tape system is now worthless anyway, as is just about any analog sound or video stuff with moving parts. As for consumer products, a low-mileage automobile is about the only thing that can be cheaper to repair than replace. That is why the ceiling price for any "popular" premier camera body can hardly be more than $1,200 maximum, since it will be technologically passé in less than 3 years, and the cost to fix a broken one at that point might exceed the disposal value. People who buy $25k cameras may have a different perspective, or cost calculus, but probably buy new stuff before the old stuff breaks, anyway.

0 upvotes
Ron007
By Ron007 (Aug 25, 2011)

At Cy Cheze, how are others able to do better?

0 upvotes
wmac
By wmac (Aug 25, 2011)

yes, you are right. Most religions are (or at least become when people fight for them). That includes Sony, Nikon, Canon, Microsoft, Linux ...

0 upvotes
ExpressionOfLife
By ExpressionOfLife (Aug 25, 2011)

Come on guys look at the quality it si shameful for that type of sensor and nowhere do they tell you the bit depth which I have only seen speculation of 10 bits or 4095 colors. 12,14or 16 would help with imgae quality.
They need to understand cheap is just cheap all around quality is something they don't understand.

0 upvotes
Jens_G
By Jens_G (Aug 27, 2011)

@Richt2000. I have had my NEX 5 for less than a year and I just upgraded to firmware v4 last night. Most of the firmware updates were not even to fix bugs, but to bring improvements, like focus peaking in liveview. Based on this I would not for one second hesitate to buy a camera from Sony, with teh features of the A77.

0 upvotes
kaumed
By kaumed (Aug 24, 2011)

Ordered!!! Any takers for my A300?? My current A580 would be the second body!! But surely sounds like a beast!! Bring it on Sony....

0 upvotes
jimby_99
By jimby_99 (Aug 24, 2011)

I think that Sony really needs to look up the definition of "translucent." The last thing I want is a translucent mirror. A semi-transparent mirror would be more like it.

Marketing dolts.

2 upvotes
Antisthenes
By Antisthenes (Aug 24, 2011)

Illiterate dolts like you should look up the definition of "translucent" in a dictionary.

I'm excerpting from Merriam-Webster's:

TRANSLUCENT:
1 : permitting the passage of light:
a : clear, transparent <translucent water>

4 upvotes
Silvarum
By Silvarum (Aug 24, 2011)

Antisthenes, actually, translucence is the property of some material to allow light to pass through diffusely(!). Like not very clean water or fog. Doubt, that they use this kind of mirror there.

0 upvotes
Lukino
By Lukino (Aug 24, 2011)

Digital Single Lens Semi Transparent = DSLST
No good on press releases.

0 upvotes
Ron007
By Ron007 (Aug 25, 2011)

Nitpicking.

1 upvote
Antisthenes
By Antisthenes (Aug 25, 2011)

Silvarum, what makes you think you are more cognizant of the semantics — in the plural — of English language words like "translucent" than, say, the editors of the Merriam-Webster dictionary ?

Do you even know what a dictionary is ?

Let me also add for your edification that translucenCE is typically defined as "the quality or state of being translucenT".

0 upvotes
jimby_99
By jimby_99 (Aug 26, 2011)

Antisthenes,

I'll ignore your antisocial, pedantic and completely unattractive personality for now to inform you that the terms "translucent" and "transparent" have very specific meanings in the discussion of optics., and they DON'T mean the same thing. There is a good discussion on the Wikipedia page on transparency to which I will refer you for more information. Just because you can look up a word on Webster doesn't mean you understand how that word applies to the specific subject matter in question. You can selectively quote dictionaries all you want and still not have any comprehension of the science behind the use of the word.

And by the way, I studied Latin for four years and have made my living in the optics and photographic fields, so I have more than a passing knowledge of the etymology of the words in question.

Nice try, though.

1 upvote
Antisthenes
By Antisthenes (Aug 26, 2011)

jimby_99, like it or not, in the English language, the word "translucent" has A PLURALITY of meanings, one of which being reasonably close to "clear, transparent".

The very fact that you're ignorant of that basic linguistic fact - recorded in a reputable English language dictionary - or unable to understand said fact, makes your pronouncements and prescriptions about the meaning or usage of a word pretty vacuous and risible.

0 upvotes
Lukino
By Lukino (Aug 26, 2011)

clear means not semi-transparent. English is not my mother language, but I own a Merriam-Webster too and there is nothing under the definition of "translucent" that goes close to how this camera works. Also, words take meanings from the context, else you will call your camera bag a "lens coating".

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Antisthenes
By Antisthenes (Aug 27, 2011)

Lukino wrote:

> there is nothing under the definition of "translucent"
> that goes close to how this camera works

It apparently hasn't occured to you that Sony calls their optical device "translucent mirror" -- i.e. a combination of TWO TERMS, indicating that said device presumably exhibits both a "mirror" and a "translucent" characteristic. Arguing, like you, that the SINGLE TERM "translucent" doesn't accurately describe the device's combined characteristics is thus arguing a truism, and therefore borders on the asinine.

> Also, words take meanings from the context, else you
> will call your camera bag a "lens coating".

Yup. And on-line forums have no shortage of conceited people who are wont to prescribe that their blinkered contextualization, interpretation or opinion is the only "correct" one.

0 upvotes
Silvarum
By Silvarum (Aug 31, 2011)

> what makes you think you are more cognizant
Nothing. Here's what my Merriam-Webster also says:
b : "transmitting and diffusing light so that objects beyond cannot be seen clearly"

> people who are wont to prescribe that their blinkered contextualization, interpretation or opinion is the only "correct" one.
Kinda reminds of someone here, doesn't it?

1 upvote
vFunct
By vFunct (Aug 24, 2011)

Impressive.. i like the Phase-detect AF for video.. a first for a dSLR.

0 upvotes
Argote
By Argote (Aug 24, 2011)

Actually, the Sony a33 and a55 have had it for over a year...

0 upvotes
jaja_m
By jaja_m (Aug 24, 2011)

I can't access preview gallery!

1 upvote
Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Aug 24, 2011)

working on it

1 upvote
dpreview review samples
By dpreview review samples (Aug 24, 2011)

Fixed.

0 upvotes
jaja_m
By jaja_m (Aug 24, 2011)

thanks, the link is worked now but the gallery has no photos... same with nex 5n samples

0 upvotes
Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Aug 24, 2011)

it really is fixed now :)

0 upvotes
Michel J
By Michel J (Aug 24, 2011)

Not much !! :-/
We have this message now: «We're taking a moment (or two) to roll out some new features for dpreview.com Galleries.»

Why updating today, when many people await for...?

BTW, very poor preview for a brilliant Sony achievement ...as usual.

0 upvotes
straylightrun
By straylightrun (Aug 24, 2011)

Canon and Nikon just got owned.

4 upvotes
ZinhaEq
By ZinhaEq (Aug 24, 2011)

Wait for their releases. Then Sony is going to be the shadow again, as in the last fall.

1 upvote
edfd
By edfd (Aug 24, 2011)

I agree straylightrun... Nothing they develop will be as advanced as the a77... Nothing they have developed is as advanced as this camera lol....

3 upvotes
TakisL
By TakisL (Aug 24, 2011)

Rumors say that the next Sony model will have Play Station in its specifications to exterminate the competition. The most advansed camera maker in the history, Minolta, died. Even though Sony is making the sensors for the other camera makers failed to be competitive in SLR market. Now is trying to create new market sectors but...

0 upvotes
Cy Cheze
By Cy Cheze (Aug 24, 2011)

By TakisL
>Rumors say that the next Sony model will have Play Station in its specifications...

Actually, it might make more sense to make cameras "smart," like a Blackberry or iPhone. Oh, but wait, that's already been done: smart phones already have cameras! They certainly account for most of the world's image capturing these days.

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TakisL
By TakisL (Aug 25, 2011)

Most of the world image capturing. Not photographs....

0 upvotes
Chaitanya S
By Chaitanya S (Aug 24, 2011)

cant wait for Nikon to announce D300s replacement now that A77 is out.

1 upvote
Chaitanya S
By Chaitanya S (Aug 24, 2011)

cant wait for Nikon to announce D300s replacement now that A77 is out.

0 upvotes
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