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Leica launches M9-P professionally targeted rangefinder

By dpreview staff on Jun 21, 2011 at 17:56 GMT

Leica has announced the M9-P, a variant of its 18MP full-frame M9 rangefinder camera. The P version gains the sapphire crystal LCD glass previously seen on the Leica M8.2 but now featuring improved anti-reflective coatings for improved visibility in difficult lighting conditions. In order to give an understated appearance, the M9-P omits the traditional Leica red dot and M9 designation from the front of the camera, instead the Leica name is engaved in the metal top-plate in the company's traditional script.

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Press Release:

Leica announces the Leica M9-P: the essence of discretion

Designed particularly for professional photographers, new ultra-discreet version of
the Leica M9 added to Leica rangefinder portfolio

Leica today presents a new version of the world's smallest, full-frame digital system camera: the Leica M9-P. This new model will sit alongside the Leica M9 in the company's rangefinder portfolio, providing an alternative, even more discreet and resilient design that further reinforces the quintessential nature of the M9 – and particularly meets the needs of professional photographers. The new model will be available in a classic silver chrome or subtle black paint finish.

Offering the same technical specifications as the highly successfully Leica M9, the M9-P combines all the benefits of the original: compact size, full-frame, 18 megapixel 24 x 36mm sensor (35mm format), sophisticated image processing and robust construction, with features designed for the professional user or photographers who prefer a pure, even more unobtrusive styling.

The Leica M9-P includes a scratch-resistant, sapphire crystal covering on the LCD screen. This material is so tough that the screen can only be produced using special diamond cutting tools and is one of the world's hardest materials. As a result, the sapphire glass LCD cover is extremely resistant to wear and almost unbreakable, meaning many years of reliable use. In addition, thanks to an anti-reflective coating on both sides of the cover, reviewing images on the display during composition and after capture is further improved, particularly in unfavourable lighting conditions.

The external covering of the body of the M9-P, finished in vulcanite leatherette, features a more coarselytextured finish that ensures a steady grip when shooting, making the M9-P feel particularly safe and secure in the hand.

A further understated feature of the Leica M9-P is its minimalist styling, which is focused on the most essential features. Many professional photographers using Leica cameras have been known to tape over the Leica 'red dot' logo to make their equipment as inconspicuous and discreet as possible. For this reason, the Leica red dot logo and the M9 lettering on the front have been omitted. Instead, the top plate is engraved with the Leica name in classic script form.

Since 1954, the Leica M system has represented an unmistakable, individual kind of photography and a very conscious photographic style. With a Leica M, the photographer becomes a 'part of the action' in the process of capturing challenging, authentic and creative images.

The rangefinder frames precisely the shot the photographer envisages, while allowing a clear view of the scene outside the viewfinder frame. This allows the photographer to predict the decisive moment and capture it discreetly and reliably at the right moment – in all fields of photography, from photojournalism, reportage and 'available light' to the capture of portraits and aesthetic, fine-art images.

Another significant advantage for unobtrusive photography is the almost silent shutter, a feature of both the M9 and M9-P. Moreover, when longer exposure times requiring an extremely steady camera stance are essential, only a slight pressure on the shutter release button in 'soft release' mode is required. Photographers can also select the most appropriate moment for re-cocking the shutter.

The functions of the Leica M are consistently constructed for extreme durability and a long working life. The highest quality materials, intricate manufacturing processes and meticulous manual assembly at Leica's facility in Germany guarantee functional reliability for years to come.

In line with Leica's commitment to system compatibility, almost all Leica M lenses built since 1954 can be used with the M9 and M9-P – an important factor in the enduring value of the M series. The 18 megapixel image sensor, specifically designed and developed for the M9, enables capture of the full 35mm film format without any compromise. All M lenses mounted on the M9 and M9-P therefore offer the same focal length as originally intended, and the enormous potential performance of the extensive M lens portfolio, with focal lengths from 16 to 135mm, can be fully exploited by both cameras.

Pricing and availability in the UK

The Leica M9-P (available in black paint or silver chrome) is scheduled to be available in the UK from June
2011 from authorised Leica dealers including the Leica Store Mayfair: www.leica-storemayfair.co.uk, tel:
020 7629 1351. A full list of authorised UK Leica dealers is available at www.leica-camera.co.uk. The UK
suggested retail price of the Leica M9-P is £5,395 including VAT.

Pricing and availability in the USA

The MSRP for the M9-P will be $7,995.00.

The Leica M9-P comes with a two-year warranty and a one-year Leica UK 'Passport' (complimentary
accidental damage cover), both of which commence from date of purchase. UK customers are also
welcome to visit the Leica Store and Akademie in Mayfair, London, for a complimentary training workshop
on the features of the camera. Technical support by telephone is available via Leica's London-based Client
Care department.

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Total comments: 100
Ben1977
By Ben1977 (Jul 8, 2011)

I Noticed that there is a Leica M9 Prizedraw cometition or whatver you them

here http://www.iloverangefinders.com/2011/06/win-a-leica-m9/

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liin
By liin (Jul 2, 2011)

I'm gonna get flamed for this.

But I think there should be a dedicated ISO dial. I do not think that is bells and whistles we don't need. It would make digital M more minimal, in essence. No menus to go through for the three basic elements of exposure, sensitivity of capturing plane, exposure time, and amount of light. So, we have our ISO dial, shutter speed dial, and aperture ring.

In film, it was unreasonable to consider, say, ISO 64 or 200, when exposing shots, as it would be a lot of trouble to go through if I opted for the one that's not loaded. But that was then. Considering just shutter and aperture, and waving the whatever hand to ISO, is not thinking in term of best possible options. Going through menus to set ISO feels intrusive to the intuitive process of using M.

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Zvonimir Tosic
By Zvonimir Tosic (Jul 10, 2011)

I think you are right. M design comes for ages ago, when one was supposed to change different films to get different ISO settings. But digital changes that and easy ISO control is lacking. It would be great to see some modern thinking on Leica's part; say that top big shutter speed dial, if with a press of a button or a small lever switch below (or a similar device) could be made to use as an ISO dial instantly, that would shift M- series into digital age much quicker.

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Roger Knight
By Roger Knight (Jul 16, 2011)

Interestingly the smart guys at FujiFilm worked this out for themselves and incorporated an ISO dial in a very appropriate place on the top plate where it needs to be before going to market with their lovely X-100.

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jeremya
By jeremya (Aug 24, 2011)

So what's so hard about holding a small button (the one labeled ISO) and spinning the dial on the back of the camera? As Leica says on their M9(-P) page, "Setting the sensitivity requires only constant pressure on the ISO button while simultaneously turning the dial to select the required setting."

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jake werner
By jake werner (Sep 29, 2011)

The new Sony Nex-7 has that ability. It has three separate programable dials. That paired with a Leica lens is a real object of desire.

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Wang Man
By Wang Man (Jul 10, 2012)

I have both the M9 (silver) and the M9-P (black), they are great cameras. The only reason I bought the M9-P is for backup, since these cameras are electronic units, they will fail sooner or later. I will not buy the M9-M, this is just a Leica marketing ploy.

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liin
By liin (Jul 2, 2011)

I seriously want it. Too bad I can't claim I need one.

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Mediahound
By Mediahound (Jun 29, 2011)

When does this come out?

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makofoto
By makofoto (Jun 28, 2011)

Did Leica ever solve the magenta/Blacks issue? In the motion picture industry we're having to use special Neutral Density filters when ever we need to use heavy amounts of ND, which is often because the native resolution of our popular pro digital cameras is around 800 iso.

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Zvonimir Tosic
By Zvonimir Tosic (Jul 10, 2011)

Yes, they have resolved it.

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marcomariano
By marcomariano (Jun 28, 2011)

i really want one! even if sell my 5D2 & 85L2, still not enough for the body only... ;(

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jark
By jark (Jun 28, 2011)

Marcomariano...2 weeks ago I sold my Nikon D300s, and my 5 lenses, including a 70-200 f/2.8 VRII, a 17-55 F/2.8 between others in order to get a Leica M9 and a 35mm Summarit f/2.5. I have to put a lot of money on top of what I get for my old gear (I live in Australia, where everything by definition is way more expensive than any other place) ...But you know what? I don't regret a bit!...The Leica is just a pleasure to use, and I love the fact that is Manual, no gimmicks, no fancy settings that you never use, no anything. It have just 1 menu to set everything and you don't waist a single minute understanding how things work. They just do. The image quality it's simple awesome. And the fact that I carry it with me every single day is a plus. I don't have to worried anymore about what lens to use. I will say that if you are not into sport or super zooms you will love it too. Again, the Leica M is simple amazing!.

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Shomari
By Shomari (Jul 18, 2011)

I would enjoy seeing some of your shots Australia.

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Per PN
By Per PN (Jun 27, 2011)

I love Leica M. The manual nature means that I improve in my skills because I don't rely on all the automatic settings and autofocus I would have in a DSLR. This camera is not meant to replace DSLRs but its a fun alternative and yes, expensive, but the quality is great. Lenses is second to none. I've had Canon L glass and they don't come close. Lots of magnum agency pros use Leica M.

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acid_test
By acid_test (Jun 28, 2011)

You could set your DSLR totally to manual mode and "improve your skills" for free. But of course, there would be no new gadget to show your pals and "impress chicks".

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Per PN
By Per PN (Jun 28, 2011)

Yes, true you can set a DSLR on manual mode too, but its not easy and quick to change settings as a rangefinder. "impress chicks" ??? what is that about?

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MarkWW
By MarkWW (Jun 30, 2011)

What a load of bull. Pick up any pro Nikon body and put it in manual mode. You'll know how to adjust every setting within 60 seconds. Shutter speed? Under your thumb. Aperture? Under your index finger - or if you buy an older lens, on the lens. ISO? Dedicated button. White Balance? Dedicated button.

Where's your dedicated white balance button, Leica boy? Oh yeah, it's hidden behind a menu.

You know what cameras hide stuff behind lots of menus- amateur cameras that cost $400. Please don't tell me you just compared an $8000 Leica to an entry level DSLR.

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Per PN
By Per PN (Jul 2, 2011)

The M is a great photographic tool use be many renowned pros for a reason. The M is a minimalistic camera, high quality and compact. For some its worth the extra cost and for some it is not.

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liin
By liin (Jul 2, 2011)

Skill is developing an eye for composition of light and shadows. Auto everything will not dumb things down. There are photographers who have assistants to take exposure readings. Does not make them less skillful. Being quick on dialing in focus and exposure also does not make a photographer more skillful.

Being able to write with pen and paper and not rely on word processors efficiency will not help anyone write better.

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Per PN
By Per PN (Jul 13, 2011)

You are right about that, theres no rights or wrongs in photography

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G Davidson
By G Davidson (Jul 21, 2011)

This is a beautiful, non-distracting camera that a true photographer would appreciate, not that this is taking anything away from the multifunctional world of the SLR. I do find the price ridiculous though, and hope for clones at 1/10th the price that can use the same lenses, just as appeared in the film days.

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mauro paillex
By mauro paillex (Jun 26, 2011)

Leica lives in prehistorical era of photography! I'm a professional, i've tried the m9 but it does not absolutely worth the money!! Camera body for Dandies that just want appear in fashion parties...

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jark
By jark (Jun 26, 2011)

What a ridiculous comment!!...If you are really a professional you would understand and appreciate what really Leica means. The fact that they manufacture a beautiful object too, doesn't mean that is meant to be for dandies or rich people. Leica is an amazing company that pretty much invented the 35mm format at the beginning of the 20th century, and since then it has been used for many photojournalist and renowned photographers. I'm talking about people that my art with this tool. Also no Nikon or Canon (or named whatever "professional" brand you like) lenses can achieve what a M mount Leica lens do.
The fact that this beauty is expensive is simple because is made by hand in Germany, by trained technicians with a know how of a hundred years and with and astonishing quality.

Not only "rich" people are willing to spend this amount of money for a Leica M, but also people that love and are passioned for photography. I reckon at the end, that is what really annoyed you.

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jark
By jark (Jun 26, 2011)

Sorry for the typo error, I meant "people that made art with this tool"

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snake_b
By snake_b (Jun 27, 2011)

Your post just proved Mauro's point. You're paying for retro art, which is in right now, not for performance fitting the price. Leica relies on people like that.

1 upvote
makofoto
By makofoto (Jun 28, 2011)

I don't see many war or press photographers using Leica's anymore. My Leica MP-4 w/ 35 and 90 Summicron's was stolen ... it was insured ... but I never felt the need to replace it. D/SLR's are just too versatile, and a GF or my LX's make a decent street camera ... with lots of other options appearing everyday it seems.

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liin
By liin (Jul 2, 2011)

makofoto,

A lot of people don't know this, but journalists preferred M for its film load box. They run and gun, and can't re-shoot what they shot. M can take a lot of abuse, and, even more importantly, won't leak light even when badly damaged. Film backs flip open when camera are dropped.

While digital can't take much abuse, journalists now are not worried about loosing their shots stored in memory cards. Journalists who worry about loosing opportunities, still carry two film based M, despite preferring digital post processing.

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liin
By liin (Jul 2, 2011)

mauro,

I believe I'm not prehistoric, I'm pretty geeky when it comes to gadgets, and new tech. I hate parties, and never, ever dress up. Still, this full frame baby is looking very desirable for me.

I love everything about it. I'm deterred only by its price tag, since I'm not a pro, I can't make money off this thing. But I can see who some photographers would prefer this as their tool.

That said, yes, a lot of Leica owners own it for vanity. But same can be said to a lot of owners who own exotic f/1.2 lenses, even though those lenses are built for pros.

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liin
By liin (Jul 3, 2011)

snake_b,

You misunderstood Jark. It has nothing to do with "retro art". He meant, just look at great photojournalists, artists, photographers, in the history of art ( as the business of advertising, publishing, wedding, etc, is what we often think first when we think pro ). Those artists do not care a bit about status associated with what they use. Whatever that make them feel most intuitive to deliver what their eyes see, to express, will be their choice of tool. Many of them chose Leica M, even in the digital era. They have their reasons, and has nothing to do with appearing fashionable, or feeling retro.

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mauro paillex
By mauro paillex (Dec 26, 2011)

A great picture is made with your head not with the tool you own! Camera is just something you use to put on paper what you see. In 1940 perhaps Leica was the only tool able to do that with great quality, today no! Absolutely no! You pay for tradition, it's ok! But every small digital camera works like a digital leica!! Try if u want! U like retro look?? Buy a fuji fx100 and it wipes away the image quality of your german tool!! And with the money u save, buy printers, inks, books.... p.s sorry for my english!

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Buchan-Grant
By Buchan-Grant (Jun 24, 2011)

Its a nice looking camera and I like the understated thing but I'll wait for the M10, its not worth £1000 just for a glass screen and a prettier body:-)

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Zvonimir Tosic
By Zvonimir Tosic (Jul 10, 2011)

I think you better like the M9-P, because when an M10 comes out, it will NOT be cheaper than the M9, but only more and more expensive.

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Csaba Farkas
By Csaba Farkas (Jun 24, 2011)

Nice work but still the same ol' M9. High time Leica added tough glass and they should stick to the classic stealth look anyway, reserve the rote punkt for the consumer range please.

Those of you who started regretting to own the plain Jane M9, here's my two cents:

- Giottos glass, a perfect protective fit for the LCD.
- Thumbs Up solid brass grip to slide into the hot shoe. Handles like the advance lever on film M models (nice black paint, brassing the same way as your Leica when gets well-thumbed, should be standard accessory)
- Grainier vulcanite is nice, but hey, cameraleather.com offers neatly cut replacement body covers to your liking, if you dare to strip your M, go ahead and fit it with kid leather or Griptac.
Two more cents to the Leica people: cosmetics aside, improve slow DNG buffering and bugs instead. I just killed a Lexar pro card mid-shoot with sluggish buffering, and missed quite a few frames when couldn't wake the camera without removing battery.
Keep on shooting!

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daymadi-T
By daymadi-T (Jun 24, 2011)

Hi,
Leica was about consciencious of the M series, more succefully by its design than its qualities (Quality/price compare with other japanese brands camera) - design based on the M2 model since 50's, not Leicaflex nor M5 of the M series) - bringing their M9 closer to this old M model, thus encouraging the rest of potential buyers !
In reality when you buy Leica, you thought about its qualities, sure, but not only.
The M9-P is very beautiful, if you had already M9 and such financial possibility, change it, for your pleasure!

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ross7
By ross7 (Jun 24, 2011)

I wish there's a M9 giveaway contest. IMHO, Leica's target market are for millionaires.

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liin
By liin (Jul 2, 2011)

If you are a photographer, that price tag is dirt cheap. Think about it. How much do you have to invest to open a cafe, start up a design studio, run a local hardware store?

I have friends who use and abuse their M like a $2 disposable camera. And they outright told me it's a just a film container that allows you to do proper exposure. Because one good shot in a roll of film, will net them income worth a lot of Leica Ms. They do take some care to their M lenses, but mostly just not to ruin shots with dirty lens, I think.

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Mat Miller
By Mat Miller (Jun 24, 2011)

Sexy camera

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Tee1up
By Tee1up (Jun 24, 2011)

My dream camera just got better.

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Akos Kozari
By Akos Kozari (Jun 23, 2011)

If i would have 8000 USD, i would buy a camera body below 3000 USD, buying some lenses and spend the remaining for e.g. travelling. M9-P looks like a great tool, but not worth for the money. Good picture can be done without the Red dot and top plate scriptings.
(I have just sent my Leica M analog.)

Cheers, Akos

http://space1999.deviantart.com/

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liin
By liin (Jul 3, 2011)

I agree.

As much as I think this is built for pros, desired by hobbyist, you can hand Henri Cartier Bresson a crappy toy camera, and he'll still come up with better shots than most most M owners.

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allanjfotos
By allanjfotos (Jun 23, 2011)

M10 said to be 29MP and a very different look. Anyone know anything or have links to anything?

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SkyTamer
By SkyTamer (Jun 22, 2011)

This minimal update release could only mean one thing,.. the M10 is only three months away.

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Tom Caldwell
By Tom Caldwell (Jun 22, 2011)

Um .. Are they giving Ricoh the thumbs up fro their M mount module in advance?

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Tom Caldwell
By Tom Caldwell (Jun 22, 2011)

Will be interesting to see if anyone tapes over the place where the red dot is supposed to be .... smile.

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siegfriedthieffen
By siegfriedthieffen (Jun 22, 2011)

Alot of money only for reason that is german! I preffer to wait the russian copy of that :-(

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stepalex
By stepalex (Jun 23, 2011)

If such thing ever comes out, it will be made in China, will cost more, the sapphire glass will be a fake, and you'll be lucky if it switches on at all upon purchase. Trust me - I am from Russia.

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lomoportfolio
By lomoportfolio (Jun 25, 2011)

Pretty sure Russians could come up with a golden version. The same way they do with old leicas and FEDs. :)

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Vadimka
By Vadimka (Jul 1, 2011)

In order for Russians to make exact copy of M9 all of the following must happen:
1. Germany needs to invade Russia.
2. Go all the way to Volgograd (former Stalingrad)
3. Americans must open second front.
4. Russians need to hurry up and get to Solms factory before Allies.
5. Pack all the prototypes and production line of Leica factory.
6. Deliver it back to mother Russia and re-assemble a production line in Moscow.
(but even then the camera will suck because most of the components will be stolen during the assembly by employees and later that day traded on a black market for a bottle of Vodka.)
Believe me I know cause I used to be Russian :)

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RamonAntonio345
By RamonAntonio345 (Jun 22, 2011)

Of course, the problem is that kids have all the time in life to figure how to scratch it including the tools in the house which probably include diamond or carbide knife sharpeners. They'll figure out something...

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RamonAntonio345
By RamonAntonio345 (Jun 22, 2011)

So now finally I can leave this nice little piece of technology at the reach of kids without minding to have to sue them, their family and their descendants for any damage. Makes sense!

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rallyfan
By rallyfan (Jun 22, 2011)

The 2-year warranty and 12-month damage cover are good features though.

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MPA1
By MPA1 (Jun 22, 2011)

Gorgeous but still impossible to focus accurately unless you have excellent eyesight.

An autofocus version of this camera would sell in truckloads. I would buy 2 almost immediately for a start!

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f_stops
By f_stops (Jun 23, 2011)

Actually much easier to focus my m9 (and m7) than focus manual lenses with my 5DII (and confirm-chip adapters really miss the mark).
The benefit of the 5dII is live view with magnification. HOWEVER this really does not work unless on a tripod.

Hopefully the m10 will include liveview and some sort of peaking/magnification system. The m9 is a very usable camera. I do have to say the low-resolution LCD screen is an embarrassment and really needs to be upgraded.

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makofoto
By makofoto (Jun 28, 2011)

If you are going to manually focus your 5D's ... you need to change to the proper focusing screen. It's assumed you are going to AF and so they include the screen that is optimized for that application.

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MarkWW
By MarkWW (Jun 30, 2011)

Yup. I have a split prism focusing screen on my D200, and I use the "green dot" confirmation when I'm in a hurry. It makes for a busy viewfinder, but fast & accurate focusing. Not quite rangefinder like, but a very close second.

I've heard that the high end Nikons are more often in focus than the high end Canons, which is ironic considering how Canon got their lead in the late 80's building great fast autofocus bodies (and those funky white zoom lenses you always saw at sporting events).

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liin
By liin (Jul 2, 2011)

One of the Leica M's strong selling point ( and it has very few strong selling point ) is it is easy to get your focus super fast.

I prefer split screen focus on SLR. But argument is, I have to recompose after I confirm my focus, or focus before I compose. You don't have to with rangefinder, you do both at the same time. Modern DSLRs have multiple focus points, but it's still a step to select.

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NorthViking
By NorthViking (Jul 13, 2011)

I agree. The 2.5 in. monitor (color TFT LCD) with only 230,000 pixels is not good enough in 2011. That`s why I still will wait for the M10.

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G Davidson
By G Davidson (Jul 21, 2011)

The LCD with live view is a very powerful compositional tool on a digital camera. I'm also feeling that resolution needs to go up.

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BahPhotog
By BahPhotog (Jun 22, 2011)

I'm sure a lot of people will fall for this camera. I am one of them but the increase in price for some minor changes to an already expensive camera is ridiculous. I can justify spending an extra grand if they have at least improve the performance of the camera. Leicaphiles will always use the "iconic and special not for everybody camera" as an excuse for the cameras technological shortcoming. Pro photogs will benefit more using Nikons and Canons than using this. Leica M will always be a good "street camera" and that's about it.

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Doug Frost
By Doug Frost (Jun 22, 2011)

At USD1000 more than the regular M9, I think I'll just put a piece of black tape over the red logo, thank you.

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chalumeau
By chalumeau (Jun 22, 2011)

I have an M9 and I use more than any other camera in my possession, its beginning to look a bit battered now as I don't treat it with kid gloves on, the M9-P looks great to me but I cant see any point in buying one but I am sure many will, it looks great without the dot and lettering on the front, another classic from Solmes.

Chalameau

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DuckShots
By DuckShots (Jun 22, 2011)

If I had the money, I would buy this camera in a second and spend the rest of my life learning how to use it.

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bpalme
By bpalme (Jun 22, 2011)

I would rather have a regular M9 but many Leica shooters don't want the attention of the red dot.
If it cost about 5K I will get an M9 but way too overpriced for now.. I'll stick with my M8 for now.
For all the haters.. sorry but considering size/weight the M9 is as good as it gets for what it does... street/portrait/landscape. Certainly has it's faults though.

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rallyfan
By rallyfan (Jun 22, 2011)

Alternatives?

Would a piece of electrical tape over the red dot of a previous model and a screen protector yield a functional equivalent to this new model?

Or if buying new is a must, Fujifilm has no red dot and it might have better colour balance from the samples posted.

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expoboy52
By expoboy52 (Jun 22, 2011)

Even if I could afford the basic body, then there's the price of those lenses. Yikes!!!

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rallyfan
By rallyfan (Jun 22, 2011)

Isn't the red dot the reason "professional photographers" and "enthusiasts" buy these cameras? By leaving it out they've made a risky move. It'll probably be OK as long as they don't position themselves to compete against functional cameras.

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phlowtography
By phlowtography (Jun 23, 2011)

Not at all. Why do you think they provided the MP as successor to their analogue M models? It's considered the best analogue camera out there by many. Understatement goes a long way with professionals.

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herrbbiiee
By herrbbiiee (Jun 24, 2011)

a de-badged ferrari is still obviously a ferrari to anyone who knows anything about cars. Leica is no different

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MarkWW
By MarkWW (Jun 30, 2011)

Why would you put a red dot on something meant for stealth photography?

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Stephen930
By Stephen930 (Jun 22, 2011)

I sometimes shoot with an old manual Leica (yes, film) and I love it. It's not for all kinds of photography, but people in this discussion who don't understand how great and fast manual focus is on a GOOD rangefinder need to STFU. With a little practice, you can get plenty of great shots.

I would love this camera for certain uses.

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RoccoGalatioto
By RoccoGalatioto (Jun 22, 2011)

It's like a dream

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StephenSPhotog
By StephenSPhotog (Jun 22, 2011)

Oh, I do wish I was rich...

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jake werner
By jake werner (Oct 1, 2011)

I wouldn't really get hung up on the price. You often see these cameras on eBay. People who can afford them, then get rid of them as they don't appreciate what they have. The cameras are built to last for years. "Used" is a good way to acquire one. This way, there's a good chance it will come with a lens as well.

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CostinD5000
By CostinD5000 (Jun 22, 2011)

just "made in germany"

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J. Qian
By J. Qian (Jun 22, 2011)

The price is out of line, a money grabber.

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Eridan_Fetahagic
By Eridan_Fetahagic (Jun 22, 2011)

Just beautiful...

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Uluru
By Uluru (Jun 22, 2011)

This is a terrific addition to an already excellent product line of one of the most innovative companies in the world of photography.
A truly welcome set of features, which were all missing in an M9 Titanium edition. Pity that issue of an M9 was rather an exercise in an idea on how to transform a photographic tool into the sports car, or a set of premium wheels, by one of the most over talented automotive designers in the world.
Coming back to photography also means coming back to people who will really use this camera. Welcome back!

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snake_b
By snake_b (Jun 22, 2011)

The hell are you even talking about?

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fotogenetic
By fotogenetic (Jun 22, 2011)

What ever happened to the camera as an extension of the eye? Professional photographers will be flocking to get one of these pretty manual focus only bricks, I'm sure. Now get these back to the size of an X1 with the same capabilities and we'll talk. I'll stick with my Ricoh GR-D for photos where I need to capture Images a la Sauvette with a discreet camera as the Leica M series does not offer me anything my D700 does not already provide.

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singveld
By singveld (Jun 22, 2011)

It is news to me that Leica have 500mm , 600mm, 800mm tele lense to snap celebrities in the beach.

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f_stops
By f_stops (Jun 23, 2011)

http://di1.shopping.com/images1/pi/e2/ae/64/20724342-177x150-0-0.jpg

Sure, lots of Leica telephotos, like the 560mm f4
It's for the R system, but hopefully the m10 will have liveview . . .

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f_stops
By f_stops (Jun 23, 2011)

Just learned you can't post images or edit your comments!

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Dan Nikon
By Dan Nikon (Jun 22, 2011)

Nice, charge people a grand to get an upgraded LCD that is already available on the M8.2 or was an upgrade option on the "Your investment is future-proofed" M8 / original version. As a professional user of Leica film gear for strictly black and white documentary work, I would *LOVE* to see another company come out with a better RF camera that will take M mount lenses, be weather sealed, 12-18 MP FF with high ISO as good as the D700 or better for about $3,000-$4,500.

Their film bodies are outstanding, a fraction of the price and I have dropped all of mine at least once onto concrete never resulting in more than a RF adjustment if that. But these $7,000-$8,000 digital versions and the price of new glass is just plain stupid. Fo the price of an M9 and 35 1.4-II, I got a Nikon 35 1.4 G, a mint used Leica 35mm F/2 asph, Fuji X100, top of the line Mac Pro with SSD and 64 GB of ram and enough Tri-X and paper to shoot two book projects and print 4 shows.

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jrg
By jrg (Jun 22, 2011)

Well put! What price glory in a technology that shifts so rapidly, too.

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ms18
By ms18 (Jun 22, 2011)

Expensive toys..

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Peter Nelson
By Peter Nelson (Jun 22, 2011)

If I was not retired I'd get this Leica. Manual focus is as fast as AF and since the photographer selects the exact area to be in focus, manual focus is more consistant than AF. The limitation would be the frame rate in certain sports. But for people shots then this camera is fast enough. Yes Leica does indeed have telephoto lenses, starting back from before WWII, made for the Olyympics.
I use an Leica M5 and a Seiko/Epson R-D1 both have a single frame manual shutter advance and a rangefinder focusing mechanism. I rarely ever miss a shot with these cameras. But it does require skill, and experience.
I agree this is a Leica Pro M series camera, and in the right hands it's as good as any other camera on the market today.
For the most fullfilling photographic experience nothing compares with a Leica. The image quality is right up there for even the most demanding applications.
I really wish I was still working because I would purchase camera right now. -Peter

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singveld
By singveld (Jun 22, 2011)

LOL, when the celebrities come out of restaurant or courtroom, they expect journalist to manual focus their M9 and get the shot? Does leica have the tele-lenses for the paparazzis to take the celebrities sun tanning or making out?
yeah it was a pro camera, in the 70's.

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Ernest M Aquilio
By Ernest M Aquilio (Jun 22, 2011)

As much as I don't need this...I want it. Taking donations now XD

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Carlos Echenique
By Carlos Echenique (Jun 21, 2011)

Leica M rangefinders are a different breed of cat. A camera that requires a more thoughtful approach to photography. It is very small and very durable. My M8 is still chugging along cranking out great shots. I would really consider the silver chrome version as the black version is painted and I hate it when it starts to rub off (leicaphiles call it "brassing" and view it as a badge of honor - I'd prefer my really expensive camera to not rub off on my hands).

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Kristian Dowling
By Kristian Dowling (Jun 21, 2011)

I love how it's designed for professional photographers, of which most can't justify owning this camera....see this mostly in amateur hands in the future ;-)

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shigzeo ?
By shigzeo ? (Jun 21, 2011)

Oh yes, I'd love to have one, but my life may never see such luxury. My heavy D200 better last a few more years.

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JohnTanner
By JohnTanner (Jun 22, 2011)

Actually, I own a D200 and have just bought an M9 (not the M9P). The M9 is clearly not directly value for money, but for certain types of photography it's a lot more convenient (small/light/quiet) and may give better results. Of course, I'll still need the D200 for wildlife photography and so on. The challenge is to avoid getting into situations where I'm carrying both at the same time...

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MarkWW
By MarkWW (Jun 30, 2011)

I also have a heavy D200. I was surprised to learn that the 5D is lighter than the D200. I solved the heavy D200 problem by getting a cheap, used, light-weight Nikon. The D7000 does everything the D200 does and better and costs way less than the Leica.

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jmmgarza
By jmmgarza (Jun 21, 2011)

This beautiful camera is another piece of jewelry for the rich and decadent. Precious few will see service in journalism. I would love to have one.

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John Ellis
By John Ellis (Jun 28, 2011)

I will have to hope for a professional MFT camera and what few additional Leica lenses will be offered for it. Of course, some people would say that "professional" and MFT are by design, incompatible. Still, I believe I would be OK with that. Just can't justly, much less afford a M9.

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rickso
By rickso (Jul 4, 2011)

I loved my M6 in the film days, it is a beautiful piece of equipment,
but I know Nikon and Canon will always be around for parts and service ,will Leica? I loved the built quality and the ease of taking it around, but each lense is a large finacial commitment
I will stick with my Canon , it still not cheap but takes great pics,
and Canon service is great as well as Nikon

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RoshanL
By RoshanL (Jul 5, 2011)

Why is it soo expensive? Is it because of snob value?

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RoshanL
By RoshanL (Jul 5, 2011)

Why is it soo expensive? Is it because of snob value?

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alifatemi
By alifatemi (Jul 7, 2011)

If M9 was around 2k USD, many people were going to buy it including me. I think the main reason that makes buying M9 so controversial is not its quality that is great but its ridiculous high price. for me it is a great camera for 2k and not more. for 2k, I surly bought one already.

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