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DxO Labs announces Optics Pro 7 with faster performance

By dpreview staff on Nov 23, 2011 at 14:00 GMT

DxO Labs has announced that Optics Pro 7, the latest version of its Raw processing and optical correction software, will be available from November 30th. The company says version 7 has been extensively re-written to make it faster - up to four times faster in the case of batch processing. Version 7 also includes support for popular enthusiast cameras, such as Fujifilm's X100 and Sony's A77, as well as more than 300 additional camera/lens Optics Modules. Refinements include an improved lens softness tool that attempts to correct for inherent lens softness without interfering with bokeh in out-of-focus regions. DxO Optics Pro 7 will be available with a 33% discount until December 24th (and free to users who bought version 6 after September 1st).

Press Release

DxO Optics Pro 7 once again redefines the standard for image quality and offers batch processing up to 4 times faster

With a newly-optimized interface and workflow, DxO Optics Pro 7 will be available on November 30, 2011, at a special 33% discount

November 23, 2011 - DxO Labs announces the November 30, 2011availability of DxO Optics Pro 7, a major new release of its leading image-processing software for demanding photographers. This new version, released simultaneously for Windows and Mac systems, redefines the standard for image quality, achieves batch processing up to four times faster, and offers a considerably optimized interface and workflow.

DxO Optics Pro 7 supports five additional cameras with this release: Fujifilm X100, Nikon P7100, Sony Alpha 77, NEX-C3, NEX-5N, and includes more than 300 new DxO Optics Modules.

Based on a unique, ultra-precise modeling of each camera-lens combination, DxO Optics Pro 7 automatically corrects optical defects at a level of unparalleled quality. The software integrates the most powerful RAW converter and noise reduction technology on the market, as well as sophisticated tools for optimizing color and exposure. During batch processing, all algorithms intelligently adapt to the content of each image for a perfect result and unequaled productivity.

THE MOST ADVANCED OPTICAL CORRECTION TECHNOLOGIES ON THE MARKET

DxO Labs has optimized many features of DxO Optics Pro 7 to help serious photographers obtain high-quality images from their JPEG and RAW files.

The Lens Softness tool, exclusive to DxO Optics Pro, is based on DxO Optics Modules and compensates for lens softness by applying a gradual correction across the field to achieve a uniformly sharp image. Thanks to the ultra-precise information provided by DxO Optics Modules for each camera-lens combination, this correction is optimized and ideally adapted to each and every pixel. Based on its ability to analytically read the image, DxO Optics Pro 7 can perfectly preserve the bokeh while avoiding the creation of artifacts in homogenous or out-of-focus zones.

DxO Optics Pro 7’s Unsharp Mask tool has a new “Edge Offset” slider that allows users to manually adjust the progression of the correction in the field. This means that even in the absence of a DxO Optics Module, photographers can obtain crisp and uniform sharpness from the center of the image field right to the edges.

Finally, the Protect Saturated Colors tool offers the possibility of restoring a significant number of details and of recovering rich textures in highly-saturated zones. The selectivity of this feature has been improved in DxO Optics Pro 7 for even greater efficacy and better preservation of unsaturated colors. The default preset now includes this feature.

BATCH PROCESSING UP TO FOUR TIMES FASTER

In addition to the progress made in providing even better image quality, there have been multiple improvements to DxO Optics Pro 7’s engine to greatly increase processing speed.

Thanks to better system resource management, the use of OpenCL technology on Windows platforms, the harnessing of graphics card computing power, and many optimized algorithms, DxO Optics Pro 7 can process batches of photos up to four times faster than previous versions.

AN IMPROVED USER INTERFACE

While retaining the fundamental assets that have made the software such a success (powerful and precise automatic corrections, intelligent presets), DxO Optics Pro 7’s workflow has been simplified to provide greater ease of use.

Management by project is now optional: users can select images for processing right from their hard drive’s directories. The addition of editing features makes it possible to sort, rename, move, copy and even delete photos in DxO Optics Pro 7.

Three tabs now guide users through the entire workflow. The corrections preview in the first tab allows users to start processing immediately and thus save a remarkable amount of time.

Batch treatment has gained greater flexibility for Windows users: it is now possible to run multiple processing sessions simultaneously, even while customizing other photos. The Macintosh version takes advantage of Mac OS X Lion and offers several Multi-Touch functions (zoom, full-screen view, scroll photos, change tab).

MORE SUPPORTED CAMERAS AND LENSES

DxO Optics Pro 7’s automatic corrections rely on a wide library of DxO Optics Modules, developed at DxO Labs, based on a precise analysis of each combination of camera and lens under all shooting conditions.

A recent process breakthrough in DxO Optics Module development will enable DxO Labs to greatly increase its productivity. DxO Labs expects to reach the threshold of 5,000 available modules by the end of 2011, and has set a goal of reaching 10,000 modules by the end of 2012.

DxO Optics Pro 7 includes more than 300 new DxO Optics Modules and supports these additional five cameras: Fujifilm X100, Nikon P7100, Sony Alpha 77, NEX-C3, and NEX-5N.

A TRUE DIGITAL PHOTO LABORATORY

DxO Optics Pro 7 is an extremely powerful software designed for the most exacting photographers. As with previous versions, it includes:

  • A powerful RAW converter coupled with an unrivaled noise reduction engine (luminance, chrominance, dead pixels, colored noise, color moiré…), even at the highest ISO settings, to automatically enhance textures and details.
  • Sophisticated corrections that rely on DxO Labs’ meticulous preliminary calibration of photographic equipment in its laboratories.
  • An single-shot HDR feature that offers the possibility of creating an HDR image from a single RAW or JPEG image file, thanks to exclusive exposure and contrast optimization technologies that allow users to recover a large number of details in over- or underexposed parts of their images.
  • An optional DxO FilmPack plugin that allows users to faithfully reproduce the aesthetic signature of more than 60 legendary films rolls on their RAW and JPEG images.

AVAILABILITY AND SPECIAL INTRODUCTORY OFFER

DxO Optics Pro 7 for Windows and Mac will be available on November 30, 2011, in the DxO Labs online boutique (www.dxo.com) and at photo resellers at a special introductory discount valid until December 24, 2011:

USD:

  • DxO Optics Pro 7 Standard Edition: $99 instead of $169
  • DxO Optics Pro 7 Elite Edition: $199 instead of $299

EUR:

  • DxO Optics Pro 7 Standard Edition: 99€ instead of 199€
  • DxO Optics Pro 7 Elite Edition: 199€ instead of 299€
    (Suggested retail prices, including VAT)

GBP:

  • DxO Optics Pro 7 Standard Edition: £89 instead of £135
  • DxO Optics Pro 7 Elite Edition: £179 instead of £269
    (Suggested retail prices, including VAT)

Photographers who acquired a license for DxO Optics Pro 6 on or after September 1, 2011 are entitled to a free upgrade to version 7. Other users can take advantage of a special discount on all upgrades from now until December 24, 2011, directly from their customer account.

A fully-functional trial version of DxO Optics Pro 7, good for one month, is available on the DxO Labs website (http://www.dxo.com/us/photo/free_trial_version).

Comments

Total comments: 167
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yukonchris
By yukonchris (Feb 19, 2012)

I downloaded DxO yesterday and ran a whole pile of RAW photos through it today, while watching tutorials and trying to get a sense of how it works. So far, I feel rather mixed about it.

As a long time user of ACDSee Pro, I can't help but compare the two. In terms of positive impressions, DxO does an amazing job of automatically correcting photos for distortions that are typical for a particular camera/lens combination, as long as it is supported (my E-30 and all its lenses are, but my E-330 not so much) This is something that ACDSee Pro doesn't handle at all really so it's a real plus for DxO.

The other positive I noticed with DxO is that it's presets, especially the single image HDR sets and their associated fine adjustments seem to work quite well on my landscape images, facilitating some very nice results that, at least at normal magnifications, seem to offer better results than ACDSee Pro can with its "Lighting" module.

So far, so good... See my reply for the not so good...

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yukonchris
By yukonchris (Feb 19, 2012)

I would love to say that everything was great with DxO, because I am quite pleased with much of the output and would love to own a "one stop shop" for my editing needs. Unfortunately, compared to ACDSee Pro, DxO's interface feels cumbersome. Previews aren't as good, and everything seems to move at a snails pace compared to ACDSee Pro.

The two worst impressions, however, are the delays I experienced when trying to scroll windows (quite slow, especially for a recently rewritten and supposedly optimized application), and using the uploader. In ACDSee Pro, using the uploader is a pleasure with options to include tags for example when uploading to Flickr. With DxO, the uploader responds like you're pouring molasses in the winter time. Scrolling down to select a Flickr set to add your image to, is actually agonizingly slow - it feels like alpha software. Not Good!

I wish DxO would fix some of the performance issues because as it stands, it's no where near as nice as ACDSee Pro to use.

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yukonchris
By yukonchris (Feb 19, 2012)

The last thing I'd like to add is that ACDSee Pro offers an excellent database facility for cataloguing classifying and ultimately finding your images. I haven't had time to ascertain whether DxO Optics Pro offers similar functionality, but if they do it isn't obvious.

On first blush, Optics Pro feels like an excellent RAW converter that just isn't quite well rounded enough or finished enough for me to commit to. Still, I have thirty more days to play so perhaps my opinion will change...

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IndyJeff
By IndyJeff (Dec 15, 2011)

The first set of Sony NEX-7's came into my local camera store today. What is the scoup about DXO support for these in 2012? Thanks!

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Piipz
By Piipz (Dec 9, 2011)

The OPENCL option is greyed out in Win7 with AMD Radeon HD4850.
Is it a driver issue or my graphic card is outdated?

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Andrey Slepuhin
By Andrey Slepuhin (Dec 5, 2011)

To DXO team (I believe you read this thread):
I'm waiting for Tamron 70-200/f2.8 (Canon 50D) support for more than a year, and every time it is postponed for few months. Last time the release was promised for November 2011, and I had a great hope that it will be available at the time of 7.0 release... Unfortunately it is postponed again until March 2012 :((
Despite this issue, thanks for your great work and excellent software!

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pjog
By pjog (Dec 3, 2011)

Support for the Samyang 14mm on Nikon D700 was promised earlier in 2011 but has now disappeared from the list of upcoming modules. An ideal lens for a module I'd have thought. Is there a problem with producing this one?

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Kinematic Digit
By Kinematic Digit (Dec 1, 2011)

I updated yesterday and found it very fast... some very good things to say about it, there's a few negatives, but will post a review on my blog when I finished testing.

Overall impressed by it. I know there's apprehension all over this message forum and #1 problem that DxO needs to fix is their promised dates. Deliver on your promises and you'll restore faith in people. It is very bad and I've been burned a couple of times with your delivery dates. Frankly even if you release a buggy version on time, at least you made your promised dates.

The $49 upgrade for 6.6. users is worth the speed increase.

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aboutsam
By aboutsam (Dec 1, 2011)

Just checked on DXO website and saw that support for Olympus E-P1 will be available in Mar 2012... not as what Axel mentioned. Axel mentioned Jan 2012.

When I bought Optics Pro 6.6, E-P1 was said to be supported in June 2011... When can I use DXO Optics Pro to convert RAW images caputre by E-P1??

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Dec 1, 2011)

Hi Sam,

There was a mistake on the web. We corrected it to March 2012, but I was told that it could make it into January deliveries (hence my original answer).

Axel

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whyukon
By whyukon (Nov 30, 2011)

I have downloaded and paid for the Version 7 upgrade. Yes, version 7 is faster and does have a simpler and more flexible workflow. Good work on that!

However, one thing I cannot find: On version 6.6 there is a menu item under "File" for "Project Database" and then "Import V5 database". There doesn't seem to be a similar menu item in version 7 to import a version 6 database. How does one import his version 6 projects into version 7?

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whyukon
By whyukon (Nov 30, 2011)

I'll answer my own question. I should have checked the release notes, which indicate that the conversion tool for version 6 project database is not available yet. Any idea when this feature will be available?

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Dec 1, 2011)

Hi,

The conversion tool will be available in a couple of weeks, but in the meantime, you can use the sidecars to reuse your presets.
We explain how to do it in this page:
http://www.dxo.com/intl/photo/dxo_optics_pro/whats_new/workflow

Hope this helps,

Axel

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MisterPootieCat
By MisterPootieCat (Nov 30, 2011)

No support for Canon's SRAW and MRAW formats? Is DxO working on support for these?

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Richard W
By Richard W (Nov 30, 2011)

How on earth do I now download version 6 that I've paid for?
Licence key is still listed but no download link to the last version 6 version.

My customer account no longer has a download link to the software only a paid update option for version 7.

Same thing happened with the Film Pack Upgrade.

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 30, 2011)

Hi Richard,

This is very strange. Normally the link to older versions should still be available in your customer account.
Can you send me a private message here or an email to our support with the email you use for your account so we can have a look?

All the best,

Axel

PS: both versions (6 and 7) can run on the same computer if you want to try DxO Optics Pro 7.

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 30, 2011)

Hi Richard,

We double checked and indeed there was a small bug. You should see all download links now.

Axel

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Adriano76
By Adriano76 (Nov 30, 2011)

Hi!... I've the same bug: no more version 6.6 download link!
I send you a pvtl with my account...

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 30, 2011)

Hi Adriano,
i already answered your private message but the answer may help others:
the customer account page providse the download link for the latest purchased versions. It helps avoiding confusion.

Axel

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Richard W
By Richard W (Dec 5, 2011)

Axel

Many thanks for getting that sorted - I now have a download link for the last version 6 release.

Is it also normal that if you upgrade, that the previous version download link disappears. I ask as I upgraded to Film Pack 3 and the version 2 link disappeared - I'm one of those who often likes to keep older versions of software either to compare output or in case I prefer some aspect of an older app.

From FAQs etc I was also under the impression we could continue to use our older licences as well as upgraded versions, which if so is an excellent policy. If older serial numbers/download links disappear from customer account page however we would need to keep a backup copy somewhere along the way - not an issue, just would be nice to know in advance of updating if older links/serials disappear.

Thanks.

Richard

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Richard W
By Richard W (Dec 6, 2011)

Axel

Just realised that download links in purchase e-mails still seem to link to original purchases which is great if correct. User oversight not realising this before!

Richard W

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zz586
By zz586 (Nov 30, 2011)

Hello Axel

I acquired DXO Optics Pro 6 after September 1st. How do I upgrade to
Pro 7 for free?

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 30, 2011)

Hi,

Your free upgrade is available directly from your customer account (link close to the bottom of the left column on dxo.com).

Enjoy,

Axel

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Yanki Doson
By Yanki Doson (Nov 30, 2011)

Hello, please tell me how to buy DxO Optics Pro 7 along with a package of accompanying documents to Russia?
A great program ....

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Hipstagram
By Hipstagram (Nov 30, 2011)

Hi,

I saw the box version on Amazon.de. Maybe it could be your solution.

Hope this helps,

Hip

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 30, 2011)

Hi,

As Hip just said, we sell the boxes versions (with the documentation in English, German, French and Japanese) on Amazon (Amazon.com and Amazon.de to be precise).
Please note that if you order it now, you shouldl receive your box around December 10 (way ahead of Christmas).

Axel

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whyukon
By whyukon (Nov 30, 2011)

I don't know whether this question has been asked or answered already:
Will the support for new cameras that is forthcoming with version 7 also become available in older verions? For example, since I currently have version 6.6, will the module for the Fuji X10 that is supposed to come in December, work in version 6.6, or MUST I upgrade to version 7 in order to get the support (modules) for this and other new cameras (and lenses)?

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 30, 2011)

Hi,

Unfortunately, the camera modules are part of the main software delivery, so we can't make new cameras available for older versions.
For the lenses, if the camera is supported, all the new lenses supported for this camera will be downloadable when you need them, as DxO Optics Modules.

Axel

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Douglas69
By Douglas69 (Nov 29, 2011)

I'm one of DxO's original customers. I was brilliant at fixing the terrible flaws in the 'kit lens' I got with my Canon 10D. I was a huge fan of the software. Sadly, when I moved to Nikon cameras, DxO lost its usefulness.

The image flaws didn't seem to be as bad but he quality of processed results has never lived up to how it worked with Canon images. Unless this release is spectacular, compared to Version 6, I think I'll stop using it altogether.

Now that PS camera Raw has lens correction modules, DxO is losing it's usefulness entirely... Sorry for the negative response but I'm really disappointed in the product and it will take a lot to change my mind. Their 'film' simulator is the only part of DxO I now use.

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Hipstagram
By Hipstagram (Dec 1, 2011)

Hum!

Following your comment, I had a closer look around on the web and found this review on Imaging Resources:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/SOFT/DxOv7/optics-pro.htm

I have to say that I'm tempted to believe a guy like Mike Pasini when he says:
"There are alternatives, certainly, but they don't have the built-in expertise of Optics Pro's modules. Lightroom probably comes the closest in Raw processing, noise reduction and workflow but it isn't in the same league when it comes to optical correction.
Optics Pro is not just a valuable tool but an indispensable tool."

So I'll definitely give it a try and think about this special offer :)

Hip

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OWHK
By OWHK (Nov 29, 2011)

Support for XZ-1 in V7 ? I have been waiting for this support for one whole year and it seems to me that it will never be supported.

RAW supports is always an issue for DXO.

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GaryW
By GaryW (Nov 28, 2011)

As long as the upgrade cost is not too great, I'll upgrade. I'm not sure why the negativity - I have my own wish list that will probably not be implemented, but I could come up with a list for any software.

As for DxO, the NR is easy to fine tune and has a nice fine grain that I love. It's easy to set it to default to a nice color mapping. The lighting is like HDR. Usually I only need to tweak a couple of settings and I'm done.

The main addition I'd like to see is the "lens softness" for "unsupported" lenses. I realize the full benefit would not be realized, but I still think it should be better than unsharp mask. I don't expect to see support for my old DSC-V3, but I may have some old raws I can revisit. And I can't expect every obscure lens to be supported for my other cameras. But if I can manually adjust, that may be enough.

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IMEDIA
By IMEDIA (Nov 26, 2011)

Here is a a Question for Axel from DXO:

I use DXO for several years and except the poor performance I am very satisfied with this tool - especially in case of the Camera/Lens-combinations (sharpness/Geometry/Vigentting/CA corrections and so on) and the rich colors (Vibrancy) for Lansdscape photography. But there is no official support for a Photoshop Plugin (32bit/64bit) since Version 6. The support team gave me a unsupported workaround to enable the Plugin Mode (Windows 32bit Photoshop by renaming the .exe AND the config-file of DXO).

So my question is: is it possible to enable this workaround also in Version 7? Because it's very cool to do my postprocessing steps in DXO and afterwards in Photoshop without leaving Photoshop!

Thanks!

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Blaise06a
By Blaise06a (Nov 27, 2011)

Hi - what exactly is a photoshop plugin? Does this mean you can run dxo from within Photoshop? Why is that good?
AFAIK you can't open a RAW in photoshop - it opens in ACR right, then you work on the results of ACR in photoshop. So how does a plugin work with RAW file?
thanks

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IMEDIA
By IMEDIA (Nov 28, 2011)

Hi, you get a DxOPhotoshopImportV6.8ba file in a folder "DXO" wich is generated in the PlugIn directory of 32bit photoshop. So if you choose in Photoshop the dialog "file -> import -> DXO Pro v6" then the Plugin starts (nearly the same like the well known DXO workspace) and you can choose a RAW file in a folder (like standard) and then you can use the same workspace as the standalone app. BUT if you are ready, you close your DXO Plugin and the postprocessed files open directley in Photoshop as 16Bit Tif-files. Then you can make your additionel steps of postprocessing in Photoshop.

So if you would have to save 100 files during postprocessing you loose much time - and time is money, isn't it?. BUT you have to prepare DXO program and config files to be able to use DXO as a Plugin because they don't support the Photoshop's Plugin mode since Version 6.

And yes, the Plugin works with any RAW file you choose from a folder of DXO plugin.

Kind regards
Markus

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 30, 2011)

Hi Markus,

The workaround works with DxO Optics Pro 6 because the structure was very similar to the v5. But, as a lot was changed to bring the performance improvements, I would say that it doesn't work anymore, but it may be worth giving it a try.
Let us know if it works, it could help other Photoshop users.

Axel

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IMEDIA
By IMEDIA (Dec 1, 2011)

Hi Axel,

I've tried to copy all the DXO Pro 7 files into the DXO 6 folder and renamed the exe and config file (as I did with version 6). All looks fine but the final processing and sending to Photoshop didn't work - so bye bye Photoshop PlugIn. I hope that DXO will perform a Photoshop PlugIn again, because I don't understand the sense of a Lightroom Plugin - it's about the same type of software. But a Photoshop Plugin would make much more sense beacuse of the CMYK finishing for PrePress and Offset Print. So why cancelled DXO the Photoshop PlugIn support? Is there any hope for me and other users? The new option to open the processed file in Photoshop could be nearly the same if I could integrate the command automatically into the Batch processing for ALL processed files.

kind regards
Markus

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Dec 1, 2011)

Hi Markus,

I expected such a result.

I'll bring your feedback about the need for a Photoshop plugin to the attention of our Product Management team.

All the best,

Axel

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IMEDIA
By IMEDIA (Dec 1, 2011)

Hi Alex,

first of all, the performance boost is amazing (Core i7 980X with 6 cores / NVIDIA GTX 460 1GB) and some small bugs with Version 6 are eliminated.
Maybe instead of a Photoshop plugin the idea of an action to load the batch processed pics direct into Photoshop could be the easierst way to get the same result! Maybe it's not very difficult (and soon possible!!!) to code an action (loading the pics direct into Photoshop) after having processed the pics. The result of not loosing much time is just like the same.

Thanks - Markus

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malcolmw
By malcolmw (Nov 25, 2011)

I have a Pentax K-5 and use the excellent Sigma 8-16 for real estate interiors. Lightroom does a great job with correction profiles but I would buy DxO Optics Pro in a second if it would correct Volume Anamorphosis. The website says that you do that correction but their are very few lenses for the Pentax.

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 30, 2011)

Hi Malcolm,

Indeed DxO Optics Pro corrects the Volume Anamorphosis and I understand why you are so keen on it for real estate interiors.
I have 2 good news: there are quite some Pentax lenses coming in the next couple of months, and, even if your lens isn't supported, DxO Optics Pro can correct the Volume Anamorphosis. It works better if the optical distortions are corrected, but you can correct them manually if your lens isn't supported.

All the best,

Axel

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piet debuysscher
By piet debuysscher (Nov 25, 2011)

will it be possible to manually indicate the camera-lenscombination to use for correction. This type of info is lost if I process raw files in another application (e.g.C1) and want to use the resulting Tiff file as input in DxO?

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dennismullen
By dennismullen (Nov 25, 2011)

Your news release says DxO will support the Sony A77 but says nothing about the Sony A65 which uses the same sensor. Will it also be supported?

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 25, 2011)

Hi,

The A65 will not be supported at launch, but it will come in December.

All the best,

Axel

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OngNikon
By OngNikon (Nov 25, 2011)

DXO should reflect on these comments critically.

Why a new released of a much loved software is not greeted with wide open arms!

Browsing through the comments, no one really complain about the its image correction capabiltiies, if there is any, it is satisfaction.

DXO is a 'technical product'. Photographers are techies by nature.... Repackaging, with peripheral enhancement, or ór forced upgrading - as sameone put it' , or trying to chase that last corner of the market trying to suport the lastest cameras, with few user base - will not go well. Pls pay a little more attention to the needs of existing customers...., Polish up the glitches of exiting version...Give us the things that DXO is good at - the stuff that got me to buy and happy in the first place.

Happy customers is the best market team any companies can have! Happy customers will get many more new customers, many many more than any bean-counting-marketing division can get.

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Douglas69
By Douglas69 (Nov 29, 2011)

I couldn't agree more with this comment. Very well put!

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raincoat
By raincoat (Nov 25, 2011)

Will support for CONSUMER level full frame cameras still be limited in the double priced elite version?

Eg the aging D700, 5D2 etc

We're finally at the crossroads and whether I'll need to upgrade from v6 std to v7 std or elite will influence whether I upgrade at all. Frankly when I moved from v5->v6 I saw little difference, I was forced due to body support. CONSUMER level full frame cameras are so cheap now it's likely I'll get a 2nd body.

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Osvaldo Cristo
By Osvaldo Cristo (Nov 27, 2011)

"CONSUMER level full frame cameras are so cheap now".
I cannot understand, you stated a D700 or 5D2 are cheap but you think the upgrade from std to elite version is expensive??

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raincoat
By raincoat (Nov 28, 2011)

Yes. You obviously have no concept of cheap. a D700 or 5D2 are cheap for their capabilities. THey cost little more than a D300s or 7D.

upgrade from std to elite is double the price. for that you get 3 (current) bodies from Nikon or Canon. (D700,D3s,D3x or 5D2,1D4,1Ds3)

Just like a ferrari may be cheap for $100k, but a coffee is expensive for $50. Just because the latter costs less than the former doesn't make the latter cheap.

If you think paying double the price to support 1 more body is cheap, then you're a fool.

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karinangelika
By karinangelika (Nov 24, 2011)

Support for the Fujifilm Finepix X100 and X10 cameras in version 7? Fantastic! I would have loved support for them in DxO Optics Pro Elite 6 though.

As soon as my X100 arrived I stopped using my DSLRs for photojournalism projects (the days of being paid well enough to afford Leicas are long gone) and am looking forward to trying out and probably buying an X10 soon. My DSLRs are only for video now.

In the meantime I have had to stop using DxO altogether, instead using Adobe products for my RAW conversions, and have greatly disliked every moment of it to the point of only doing the bare minimum. It will be such a relief to go back to DxO again soon.

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Reilly Diefenbach
By Reilly Diefenbach (Nov 24, 2011)

Axel, did you guys add the autohide for the panels as I mentioned in your survey? The tiny triangles are very hard to see. How about one click zoom and grab? In other words, did you make your great program as fast and easy to use as Lightroom? That would be nice... Good to hear about the increase in speed.

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 25, 2011)

Hi Reilly,

We did improve the user interface with a way to work without project, but not the improvement you're mentioning.

All the best,

Axel

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LJohnK2
By LJohnK2 (Nov 24, 2011)

Olympus marketing staff must have gone top work for DXO Labs....GREAT WAY TO KILL NEW CUSTOMERS.

I bought ver6.6 DXO Optics Pro in mid July 2011 or less than 6 months ago and it has been buggy from the get go to say the least....you now want to hit me up for more $ for fixing the bugs....unbelievable.

Fortunately, I have Capture NX2 and SILKYPIX in my software suite, and the later has been more than fair with upgrade policies.

For customers that got at least a year of product use an upgrade cost is expected.... but the few nice tricks DXO has aren't worth putting up with this kind of underhanded marketing scheming.

Bye Bye

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fms72
By fms72 (Nov 24, 2011)

Agreed. I am disappointed with the extremely short 2-month grace period for free updates as well.

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Reilly Diefenbach
By Reilly Diefenbach (Nov 24, 2011)

First time I ever heard anyone say DXO is buggy. I've not managed to crash my copy in two years, and when you're running three or four other programs at the same time on a 3Gig of memory Core Duo laptop, that's a pretty good accomplishment.

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LJohnK2
By LJohnK2 (Nov 24, 2011)

...try creating and saving a custom palate... then close the program...one time , two times...never survives more than a couple restarts of the program.

...what about the bizarre 90 factor for dust removal to show in the display image...

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felipes
By felipes (Nov 26, 2011)

Or the fact that you can't even open the software on a multi-monitor setup? You just receive the infamous "DXO was unable to start, usually htis is becuase DirectX9 is not properly installed..." message. The only way I can use it on my Win7 64bit is by removing all monitors but one from my set up. :-(

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Denis of Whidbey Island
By Denis of Whidbey Island (Nov 26, 2011)

I use it with Win 7 and dual monitors without problems.

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felipes
By felipes (Nov 26, 2011)

Well, I've tried everything and the *only* solution for me is removing all but one of the 3 (might this be the difference? I don't know) monitors connected to my machine. Search the 'net. You're going to find several people downgrading from 6.5 to 6.2 to solve those issues.

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Douglas69
By Douglas69 (Nov 29, 2011)

Stick with NX2. There simply is no better RAW developer for Nikon cameras. I updated to Elite when I bought a D700 and I've been disappointed ever since.

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Janster
By Janster (Nov 24, 2011)

Last November there was an announcement for a DXO HDR program which was subsequently postponed... In the meantime Optics and the Film Pack have had a few releases. Any news on HDR besides the Single Shot HDR feature, Axel?

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 24, 2011)

Hi,

I'm afraid I can't give you any more information on this one.

Axel

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raincoat
By raincoat (Nov 25, 2011)

I think Single Shot HDR feature is dead. It was announced back around v6.1
It disappeared and was never heard from again.

Later some pages tried to imply the lighting that had been there since v4 was the Single Shot HDR feature. In fact you can see how lighting is now named HDR.

And without support for sidecars for copies, HDR is nigh impossible in DXO now.

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felipes
By felipes (Nov 26, 2011)

I really don't get why can't you give us a clear statement about this announced-postponed-and_now_forgotten feature, Alex. I've been postponing acquiring a software to deal with my bracketed exposures, hopping to have this gap on my digital darkroom also filled by DxO (which I love, don't get me wrong).

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Douglas69
By Douglas69 (Nov 29, 2011)

HDR means different things to different people. I've always used it to turn sunrise/sunset into evenly exposed pictures while others expect it to create highly modified pictures I personally don't like all that much. The current HDR feature - if you call it that, is capable of altering the contrast level to a higher dynamic range so in my opinion they done what they said but if producing unrealistic art is what you expected, I don't think DxO is into that area of imagery.

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MikeFromMesa
By MikeFromMesa (Nov 24, 2011)

I have been using Dxo since 6.2 and have been very happy with it so I plan to at least try the 7.0 version. Since I want to try the upgrade I have some questions:

Can I assume that 6.6 and the 7.0 trial will be able to co-exist on a single system?

If I upgrade from 6.6 to 7.0 does that give me the right to run both? Or only the latest version?

If I can run both, and since the license allows use on 2 systems, do they have to be the same systems? That is, could I run dxo 6.6, copy 1, on system A, dxo 6.6, copy 2 and dxo 7.0 copy1 on system B and dxo 7.0, copy 2, on system C? Or run one version on 4 different systems?

If not, how do I deactivate a dxo version on one of my systems without de-activating it on the other system? That is, if I wish to install dxo on system C, how do I de-activate the version on system A so I can run system B and C legally?

Thanks.

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 24, 2011)

Hi,

Yes, both version can run on the same computer (I have them both on my PC as we speak :) )

In term of license, with the upgrade, you will get a license key that entitles you to install DxO Optics Pro 7 on 2 computers (just like a full version). In fact, it's as flexible as a full license but we offer it at a reduced price to our loyal customers. So, if you want to keep your v6.6 on 2 computers and install the v7 on 2 more computers, it's possible.

Best regards,

Axel

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gray4wisdom
By gray4wisdom (Nov 24, 2011)

Will there be support for the Samsung NX system (nx10, nx100, nx200) ??? I've used DXO for five years with Canon 5D with batch processing of Raw files. It has been great. However, I have to use Photoshop with Samsung nx100 and 30/2 pancake, and it has been a major drag. I need DXO to make some modules for the NX system so I can spend time with my family again !

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 24, 2011)

Hi,

The NX system and in particular the NX10 will be available early next year. You're family won't have to miss you for too long anymore :)

All the best,

Axel

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 24, 2011)

Oups, I read too fast.
I thought you were asking about the Fujifilm X10 and X100.
For the NX10 and other NX cameras, it won't be before later in 2012.

Sorry for the confusion,

Axel

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Adriano76
By Adriano76 (Nov 24, 2011)

pheeew!... I've bought v6.6 on October!... Lucky me! :-p

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Alternative Energy Photography

I have been to the DXO website and I downloaded the V6 trial.

I have a couple of concerns:

Camera/Lens Inclusion:

I own a Nikon D7000 and a Panasonic DMC-FZ28. The former appears in your lists, but maybe not with the lenses I want to use. The latter still gets used due to its portability and convenience. The Panasonic is not in the DXO support list. It's a couple-year-old model that isn't made anymore, so I am not optimistic that it will be added.

How much can Optics Pro be used for pictures from either the Nikon (if the lens is not listed) or the Panasonic (since the camer is not listed)? Can presets still be made for cameras or camera/lens combinations not in the list?

Copy protection:

I don't like relicensing hassles I have to upgrade/reinstall Windows or build a new PC.

I also don't like the dongle needed for Pace and other methods, especially when I need to use a laptop. Dongles are easily lost or broken w/laptops!

What is the copy protection method for V7?

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 24, 2011)

Hi,

If you want to know exactly what DxO Optics Pro can do for your pictures, check this table:
http://dxo.com/us/photo/dxo_optics_pro/for_your_equipment
After selecting your camera with the drop down lists, you will see exactly what features are supported (with an Optics Module and without).

If your camera is not supported, DxO Optics Pro can still help you but only with your JPEG pictures and only in manual mode. This is already pretty powerful. And, you can save your settings for this camera in a preset so you don't have to reset them manually each time.

In term of protection, we kept the Pace protection for this new version but it doesn't require a dongle. It's based on a protection file copied onto your computer. And, if you don't change your PC, the activation of your software with your license key doesn't require any re-licensing.

All the best,

Axel

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raincoat
By raincoat (Nov 25, 2011)

Actually that's not true at all. I didn't change any hardware on my PC, but had to re-license when I:

1) reinstall XP
2) move from XP to Win7
3) reinstall Win7 1 day after (2) due to error in Win7

both times required a call to DXO as their activation server could not tell it was the same PC. ie I had to wait 1-2days each time to get a key reset.

what's worse, after that debacle I mailed DXO to say I was about to move my 2nd PC (a notebook) from XP to Win7. After lots of emails I realised:

1) when uninstalling DXO in XP it DOESN'T free a key, no matter what DXO support says
2) DXO support will not prepare a key for you due to you informing them of impending reinstall. THey keep saying 'OK email us when you uninstall' etc but do NOTHING
3) After reinstall you email them and they STILL do nothing, you will still have to reapply for a key via the DXO program itself when it complains your keys are all used

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raincoat
By raincoat (Nov 25, 2011)

My tip to you:
Find the URL for the 'reapply for a key' page. Keep it.
Use it 2 days BEFORE you do any reinstall of any sort. Say you've already reinstalled and the server didn't recognize your PC.

That's the ONLY way to not lose time on a reinstall. I guess it's the same if you upgrade any part of your PC.

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Alternative Energy Photography

Axel, thank you for your response. I only shoot JPEG as a backup to my RAW photos (for both cameras). Not being able to process my Panasonic's RW2 files would be a big detraction.

I really need to have one program that will work for both cameras' raw formats.

Raincoat's experience with licensing and copy protection is even more of a detraction for me. In this case, a Pace key might be the better solution, but due to the inherent risks, I can't justify using it for my laptop.

At least yours and Raincoat's replies have saved me the time and disappointment of installing the Version 6 trial.

Thank you anyway.

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raincoat
By raincoat (Nov 28, 2011)

well I'd say once it's done DXO's copy protection is /probably/ no worse than say Adobe etc.

the problem is the staff. they are poor, instead of going out of their way to be helpful, or at least truthful, they seem to treat us as tickets to be closed, and the more closed tickets the more points they earn.

if you try a trial, I'd wait for v7.1

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Douglas69
By Douglas69 (Nov 29, 2011)

I don't think you'd find anyone who messes around with hardware changes and OS re-install than me. I haven't found DxO to be any worse at getting a new license key and a heck of a lot better than some other software vendors. I've never had to phone them, always getting a reset by mail in a timely manner. You can run in in trial mode for a up to 30 days. No... I don't like the present method of protection in software but as long as people think they can take what they feel like and never need to pay for it, it can only get harder for honest people.

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Ol Iver S
By Ol Iver S (Nov 24, 2011)

looking forward to the new version! since i´ve dropped my equipment for the new fujifilm x10 i am curious whether it will be implemented (soon)? this cam is quite likely to be "quite" succesful... ;)

best regards,
ol

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 24, 2011)

Hi Ol,

Being very popular, the NX10 will be fast forwarded a bit and available early next year.

All the best,

Axel

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Ol Iver S
By Ol Iver S (Nov 24, 2011)

hello axel,

thx for your fast answer, but: do you mean the samsung nx10? too avoid any misunderstanding: i was in particular asking for the FUJIFILM X10... ;)

looking forward to reading your reply,
ol

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 24, 2011)

Hi,

I did mean the Fuji X10 will arrive in December. I was confused by another post when I wrote the answer.

Sorry for that,

Axel

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Ol Iver S
By Ol Iver S (Nov 24, 2011)

thx for clarifying, have a good day!

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Dan Ortego
By Dan Ortego (Nov 24, 2011)

Sounds good to me!

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Blaise06a
By Blaise06a (Nov 24, 2011)

I've been an active user of DXO since V4.

What's really new in this release compared with v6.5? I've read the press release twice and it's not clear to me:

- faster. Yes. That's good, but I generally launched a 1000 - 2000 RAW photo batch before going to bed and it was ready in the morning.

- new interface: OK, I can understand that for new users this could be a good thing, but I've grown used to the interface now so this could be a downgrade for me.

- multi tasking: edit another project while 1 is running. Good idea. Not liekly to use this in my workflow, but it could maybe change the way I work.

- more modules: will these only be available to v7, ie will there be a forced upgrade path as photographers decide to purchase newer cameras.

We don't know what the price for the Elite upgrade is going to be, but I'm not sure I'll jump on the new ship...

And yes, it's a nuisance every time I reinstall Windows to have to send an email to DXO and wait for their OK (normally 24h).

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raincoat
By raincoat (Nov 25, 2011)

My tip to you:
Find the URL for the 'reapply for a key' page. Keep it.
Use it 2 days BEFORE you do any reinstall of any sort. Say you've already reinstalled and the server didn't recognize your PC.

That's the ONLY way to not lose time on a reinstall. I guess it's the same if you upgrade any part of your PC.

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Blaise06a
By Blaise06a (Nov 27, 2011)

Actually you get a 30 day free trial on a reinstall so I'm not without a working tool. It's just a nuisance for a licence you've paid to have to request authorisation each time.

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raincoat
By raincoat (Nov 28, 2011)

yes but on a free trial you have to click thru this dialog each time you load. I think it had some bug where I had to type in my email each time and it couldn't remember it.

back then it was also crash prone, so in those 2-3days I had to restart dozens of times, very annoying.

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CaseyComo
By CaseyComo (Nov 24, 2011)

I really like DxO, as it is focused on optimizing the shot photograph rather than general digital image manipulation. This allows us to spend more time as photographers than as pixel monkeys. This is a good thing. I look forward to the new version.

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Thaddeus W. Pruss
By Thaddeus W. Pruss (Nov 23, 2011)

There is a lot of frustration among Panasonic GFs, GH1 and GH2 users as to why DxO does not support the best of Panasonic wide angle lenses. The lack of a Lumix G Vario 1:4/7-14mm ASPH turns of many potential users.

Thank you,
Thad

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RockyOne
By RockyOne (Nov 24, 2011)

Panasonic DMC-GH1 & DMC-G3 are the cameras I need the DXO for. Come on guys. Will buy if available......RockyOne Australia

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 24, 2011)

Hi,

@Thaddeus, we indeed got quite a few requests for more micro 3/4 lenses (used with the GFs and GH cameras, among others). And there is a clear focus on these lenses. So, you should see more of these in the next month and in 2012.

@RockyOne I'm glad to tell you that the GH-1 is already supported by DxO Optics Pro and the DMC G3 is coming next month.

All the best,

Axel

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VladHarkonnen
By VladHarkonnen (Nov 24, 2011)

Will there be a support for GF3, too? Can't find it on your webpage.

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Lukino
By Lukino (Nov 24, 2011)

I too will buy DxO the exact second support for my G3 is available!

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bruno0704
By bruno0704 (Nov 23, 2011)

Hello,
We are a lot to don't understand why Panasonic G1 and G2 are not supported by DXO!
I first bought DXO for my Nikon D60, then sold it to a panasonic G1 and later a G2, and my 99€ software is useless since 1,5 year.
Both G1 and G2 are enough older to had time to experiment. I often write to DXO about those cameras, and always receive the same answer : soon, soon ,soon but i never arrived!
Just hoping you listen customers,
Bruno

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 24, 2011)

Hi Bruno,

I just checked with the team, and they confirmed that they are aiming at releasing the Panasonic G1 and G2 next month. And, if they don't make it, both should be available in January.

Best regards,

Axel

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dpreviewblog
By dpreviewblog (Nov 23, 2011)

2 Axel from DxO Labs

Hi,
The new version of DxO will be compiled as 64bit-edition, or only 32-bit... as usual? I have 24Gb DDR3 and Win 7 Ultimate Ed 64bit on my PC-workstation and recent DxO d't "utilize/use" more than 3Gb memory...

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 24, 2011)

Hi,

We are working on a 64 bits version for 2012.
But, even if DxO Optics Pro 7 is compiled as a 32 bit application, it uses different processes to process the pictures and each of them can use the maximum memory the OS can give.
So, on a 64 bits OS like Windows 7 Ultimate, DxO Optics Pro uses more than the 3GB limit (if available).

All the best,

Axel

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dpreviewblog
By dpreviewblog (Nov 24, 2011)

Thanks for the reply Axel...

The 4Gb is the "physical" limit of the 32bit win systems (even with PAE) and d't depend on the number of processes... and 64bit version would be highly desirable in the future...

In any way, the DxO software (IMO) is the BEST raw-editing software in the market right now...And I'll buy and update my recent 6.x version to 7 as soon as possible...

Best wishes,

S

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iru
By iru (Nov 25, 2011)

You can run DxO on a 64bit version of Windows. Each process on it's own will never use more than 2GB, but as DxO runs multiple processes (as Axel explained) it'll use more. That's only the case for batch processing. The UI will only ever use 2GB at most.

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compositor20
By compositor20 (Nov 23, 2011)

is there any improvement in noise reduction from version 6?

colour noise absence was already one of the best in raw converters if not the best one... but luminance noise was not good (probably it was the demosaic or the way it eated to much detail to eliminate grain compared with lightroom 3...
lets hope the new blur tool will get us this for those areas without detail where noise is most visible.

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 24, 2011)

Hi,

There were major improvement of the noise reduction with the 6.5 version. In Dxo Optics Pro 7, no specific noise reduction improvement.
But indeed, the sharpening function was improved to preserve the bokeh while still bringing the details in the area in focus.

All the best,

Axel

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bugbait
By bugbait (Nov 23, 2011)

DXO Suggestion page does not list Panasonic FZ cameras. Will they ever support the FZ150?

Dozens of users here on the forums have been
enjoying this camera already.

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 24, 2011)

Hi,

We didn't get much requests for the Panasonic FZ cameras for now. But, if we see it coming more often in the suggestion, we will definitely have a closer look.

Best regards,

Axel

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gabidan
By gabidan (Nov 23, 2011)

It's one of the first times I am lucky: I checked with DxO sales support at the beginning of August whether Optics Pro v7 will be released any time soon (as I have quit a luck of buying software just before release of a new version). No news at that time.
I liked the software so much that I couldn't wait for another sales promotion and bought v6.6 on 5th September (together with film pack expert edition). Luckily it is still in the period when I am entitled for a free upgrade ...
Wow, it would be unlucky to buy it few days earlier :-)

I really look forward for the new version, especially for higher speed, new quality and possibility to work without the project (I guess with the sidecar files, and I imagine maybe like in the Canon DPP - just opening the image and making adjustments).

Merci!

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whyukon
By whyukon (Nov 23, 2011)

Good timing... I bought in June and I guess I'll be paying the upgrade price, if I want the new version. However, I'm a bit disappointed at the slow release of support for many cameras and lenses compared with Adobe Lightroom. I believe that DXO is more thorough and thus can produce better results, but if the support isn't there at all....

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whyukon
By whyukon (Nov 23, 2011)

Is support planned for the Olympus Pen E-PM1 (and its 14-42mm kit lens)? I have been using DXO for my Canon DSLR, but now need support for the Pen Mini as well. There is a sale on Lightroom 3 right now, but I'd prefer to stick with DXO if possible.

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 23, 2011)

Hi,

Support for the E-PM1 will be available in December (yes 2011).

All the best,

Axel

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whyukon
By whyukon (Nov 24, 2011)

Terrific! Thanks. That makes it an easier decision whether to upgrade.

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Dan Ortego
By Dan Ortego (Nov 23, 2011)

Looks interesting and easier than some of the tools in LR.

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BartyLobethal
By BartyLobethal (Nov 23, 2011)

I will download the trial and make an assessment. I downloaded the Optics Pro 6 trial and liked the range of functions, but it runs very slowly on my computer, particularly the final rendering of changes.

I also found it odd that the results of some actions were not visible with the magnification set to less than 75% - I kept going back to remove dust spots etc that I had already dealt with.

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ChrisInDC
By ChrisInDC (Nov 23, 2011)

Any improvements in Lightroom workflow integration? I think the DxO camera-lens corrections are still generally superior to the lens-only corrections in ACR. The differences are sometimes minimal, in my experience, but sometimes fairly substantial.

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Neodp
By Neodp (Nov 23, 2011)

www.gimp.org/windows/

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Sviz
By Sviz (Nov 23, 2011)

When will the PowerShot S100 be supported? Thanks!

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 23, 2011)

Hi,

The Powershot S100 is pretty popular in the customer requests, so it is on top of our priorities. It should arrive in early 2012.

Cheers,

Axel

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lanceanz
By lanceanz (Nov 26, 2011)

That's good news. I do wish though that the "Supported and Planned Combinations" list actually did list what was coming up. Just one example - the S100 isn't mentioned.

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OngNikon
By OngNikon (Nov 23, 2011)

I was so confident when I got my GF2 when first released that my loved DXO will help improve my image. after 1 year and both my std kit lens modules are still not there- postponing...!!! then there is the utliity lens 45-200?? These are the ones that DXO impact will be greatest!!

I like this s/w and it seems it releases many modules regularly, but I am beginning to wonder a little: are those what the main bulk of DXO users want OR those are what DXO think the the main users want?

In the absence, I start using PTlens plugin - though still not lens speciific.. but I am beginning to use less and less of DXO, even for those cam/lens which I have the modules....For non batch processing, and in conjunction with my other PS plugin, correction with PTlens is much simpler

How does DXO priotise the modules release?

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 23, 2011)

Hi,

Sorry to hear that some of your equipment is missing in Optics Pro. But, I can assure you that we are committed to publish more micro 4-Thirds in the next module releases: you aren't the only one asking for it.
The way we prioritize the Optics Modules is based on the journalist and customer feedback. So, if you want to push a particular lens, feel free to suggest it on this page: http://www.dxo.com/intl/photo/support/modules/availability/pb_availability
The person reviewing the suggestion will bring it to the discussion.

All the best,

Axel

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AvanGarde
By AvanGarde (Nov 23, 2011)

When discount will be avaliable for 6.0 users ? I see no discount or trial or anything.

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 23, 2011)

Hi,

The upgrade will be available directly from your customer account as soon as DxO Optics Pro 7 is released on November 30.

All the best,

Axel

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vandec1
By vandec1 (Nov 23, 2011)

Hi Axel

I dumped all my Canon gear I used to use with DXO Optics V6 (and previous versions) and went for the lighter Panasonic DMC-G3 system and lenses and was extremely disappointed DXO did not not support the G3 system. I purchased Lightroom 3 in the interim to process my RAW files. When will DXO offer modules for the G3 andthe Panny lenses?

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 23, 2011)

Hi,

The G3 will be available in Optics Pro 7 in December.
And, the Panasonic lenses will be in our focus in the next months like most of the micro 4/3 lenses.

Best regards,

Axel

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Detail Man
By Detail Man (Nov 24, 2011)

"The G3 will be available in Optics Pro 7 in December.
And, the Panasonic lenses will be in our focus in the next months like most of the micro 4/3 lenses."
- Axel, DxO Labs

Your statement is (good) news to anybody who has been watching the DxO web-page (for camera/lens compatibility) that now (apparently) supplants the previous publishing of "road-maps" for upcoming support. I have seen no other published indication of upcoming G3 support (to date) at:

http://www.dxo.com/us/photo/dxo_optics_pro/for_your_equipment

What is the order in which G3-compatible lenses will be added? The 14-42mm and 20mm "kit" lenses first?

re there *definite plans* to characterize and subsequently support the 14-45mm lens as well?

Thank you in advance for responding.

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Detail Man
By Detail Man (Nov 24, 2011)

P.R.: "The software integrates the most powerful RAW converter and noise reduction technology on the market."

DxO OP 6.6 Chrominance NR is (in my experience) clearly a weak-point (as compared to the demonstrably superior functionality of LR-3.x/CR- 6.x Color NR).

Does the implementation of Noise Reduction (Luminance as well as Chrominance) in DxO OP 7.x change anything more significantly than merely revamping the "Protect Saturated Colors tool"? Such a change does not sound at all like it would address the limited efficacy of the Chrominance NR itself (as compared to LR-3.x/ CR- 6.x Color NR performance).

P.R.: "Based on its ability to analytically read the image, DxO Optics Pro 7 can perfectly preserve the bokeh while avoiding the creation of artifacts in homogenous or out-of-focus zones."

In DxO OP 6.x, such artifacts can be problematic at any "Lens Softness" settings beyond default (Auto). Does DxO 7.x make any changes at all in Lens Softness functionality?

TIA for responding.

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vandec1
By vandec1 (Nov 24, 2011)

Hi Axel
Thanks for the prompt response and potential good news for G3 owners, like myself. I'll await future DXO announcements with interest.

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Dec 1, 2011)

Hi Detail man,

The Chrominance NR of Optics Pro 7 can not really be compared to the Chrominance NR of Lightroom, since the tools do not work the same way (although the sliders have the same name). It is often recommended to avoid using Luminance NR in Lightroom as the algorithm is optimized to work without. In DxO Optics Pro, the approach we chose often makes it necessary to apply a bit of Luminance NR in addition to the Chrominance NR.
So, to get rid of chrominance noise, set the "Luminance - Detail" slider to something between 5 and 20, and the "Chrominance" set at your taste is often enough.

In term of artifacts, the default settings should already produce less of it than in Optics Pro 6, and the new "Bokeh" slider in the "Lens Softness" tool enables you to fine tune it.

Let me know how it goes if you give it a try.

Axel

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Detail Man
By Detail Man (Dec 3, 2011)

Hi Axel,

When using LR-3.x NR, I use Color NR first, and use an absolute minimum of Luminance NR (as it decreases fine-details rapidly).

For relatively low-noise LX3 RW2s (ISO=80 through ISO=200), LR-3.x NR is significantly more effective than DxO NR.

You seem to be suggesting that it is necessary to use DxO Luminance NR for the purpose of reducing "chrominance" noise. Yet, doing as you suggest decreases fine-details rapidly, as well ... and along comes that undesirable "plastique" look ...

While DxO NR suffices in the minimal cases, it is frustrating for me to have to use LR-3.x NR on a 16-bit TIFF level, after all other DOP processing (sans NR) is performed.

Regarding the deconvolution-deblurring elements of "Lens Softness". The number of Iterations and Damping Factor can be adjusted, but there very likely is no "free lunch". Do the Version 7.x changes (with "Bokeh" control) represent more than merely a "cosmetic" shift of the Global / Detail control-parameters in Versions 6.x ?

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Detail Man
By Detail Man (Dec 3, 2011)

Hi Axel,

I was thinking of taking advantage of the discounted Version 7.x Upgrade pricing in effect until December 24, 2011. However, after reading the Version 7 User and Installation Guides, and reading some of the initial posts coming in on the DxO Labs Forum, it looks like it may be significantly more resource-hungry, and my ASUS P5GC-MX/1333 Intel Dual Core (CPU E2180, 2 GHz) 2 GByte RAM system may be heavily taxed by Version 7.x ...

Further, I see at least one user reporting serious stability issues and problems when using the same OS that I use (32-bit WinXP Pro SP3) ...

These things are giving me some genuine pause about Versions 7.x ...

Are the various Version 7.x issues and any bugs found going to be addressed *promptly* by DxO Labs ? When Version 6.1 was released in January of 2009, there existed some serious (and DxO Labs acknowledged) flaws, yet it was nearly *4 months time* before Version 6.2 was released addressing those serious flaws. That was (for me) a long wait !

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villebon
By villebon (Nov 23, 2011)

dpreview said:

"A fully-functional trial version of DxO Optics Pro 7, good for one month, is available on the DxO Labs website (http://www.dxo.com/us/photo/free_trial_version).

Well, only version 6 is available for free trial download. Not interested.

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Nov 23, 2011)

Actually, DxO's press release said: 'A fully functional...'

It also says that version 7 is available from November 30th, so presumably they mean it will be available after that.

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 23, 2011)

Hi,

Indeed, the article from our friends at dpreview was a bit too optimistic in term of availability.

But, if you want to be part of the first to try DxO Optics Pro 7, just fill in your email here:
http://dxo.com/photo/dxo_optics_pro/v7
and will let you know as soon as it's released.

Best regards,

Axel

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falcon_wizard
By falcon_wizard (Nov 23, 2011)

I'd be interested in giving it a try, but the current support for pentax camera-lens combination mostly only has a handful of consumer lenses. The lenses that "serious/exacting" photographers own and use are not covered. Is there a plan to cover the 12-24, Limited and DA* series of lenses in the near future ?

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Axel from DxO Labs
By Axel from DxO Labs (Nov 23, 2011)

Hi,

The Pentax 12-24mm lens is already supported on all Pentax dSLRs, but it appears as a Samsung D-XENON 12-24mm.
And, most the Limited and DA* series lenses will be supported by DxO Optics Pro 7 before the end of January 2012.

All the best,

Axel

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malcolmw
By malcolmw (Nov 24, 2011)

I have a Pentax K-5 and use the excellent Sigma 8-16 for real estate interiors. Lightroom does a great job with correction profiles but I would buy DxO Optics Pro in a second if it would correct Volume Anamorphosis.

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