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Just published - a quick Pentax 645D sample gallery

By dpreview staff on Nov 16, 2011 at 20:33 GMT

Just Posted: A few weeks back we spent a little time with the Pentax 645D - just long enough to grab a small gallery of 'real world' samples using the FA 645 55mm F2.8 standard lens. The 40 megapixel 645D, which took an unprecedented 5 years to progress from announcement to production, is the company's first digital medium format camera. We wanted to see how practical it was to use the 645D 'in the field' as a replacement for a smaller sensor SLR, and - aside from an aching shoulder after a day of lugging it around - we were pretty impressed with what we saw. Until we get the 645D back into the studio to complete our testing, check out our quick 24-shot gallery after the link (or click here to jump straight to the gallery page).

Pentax 645D Preview Samples - Published 16th November 2011

Comments

Total comments: 132
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Superka
By Superka (Nov 29, 2011)

"The 40 megapixel 645D, which took an unprecedented 5 years to progress from announcement to production," -

- And now it will take 5 years for DPReview to test it.

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bborowski000
By bborowski000 (Nov 26, 2011)

Boring...............why don't you take pictures that really show what the camera is capable of

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SHARONG
By SHARONG (Nov 21, 2011)

They look nice but most of these can be achieved with a normal dslr

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Roger Knight
By Roger Knight (Nov 20, 2011)

I am particularly impressed with the focus on the dew droplets clinging to the spiders web. Wow! What acccuracy!

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00112233
By 00112233 (Nov 19, 2011)

It must be allowed to take snapshots. One might be using the 645D as a travel camera which is becoming an increasing part of the camera market.

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Ashley Pomeroy
By Ashley Pomeroy (Nov 19, 2011)

It's a bit of a paradox. As snapshots they're very nice - the fronds in particular are lovely, and they all have a mood - but as a means of evaluating the imaging system they're a bit meh, in contrast to the approach taken by Steve's Digicams, where the samples are tedious to look at, but useful, because they have detail and they can be compared across systems (you know the samples I mean - the schoolhouse, the M&M's toy).

Also, I was expecting to be struck by the narrow depth of field, but it didn't leap at me. You had a small boy, pleasant weather, twilight, perhaps you could have taken him outside and photographed him at a medium distance at f/2.8. If you stuff and mount him you could use him perpetually, like that poor woman from Imaging Resource.

While I'm thinking - pretty girls. You had one ages ago when you previewed the Leica S2, I think. They're flexible and have detail and easily portable.

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DonM999
By DonM999 (Nov 18, 2011)

Now I know that this is the camera for my swingset photography business.

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JamieTux
By JamieTux (Nov 18, 2011)

Out of curiosity - are any of the images at ISO 100?

Great work on your link, tcom

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tcom
By tcom (Nov 18, 2011)

When reading the introduction text as well as looking to the samples, I am not sure if it would not be better if dpreview takes the hands off a medium format camera, no one buys a 645D to take just snapshots. This is really not the main usage of such a camera.

It does take a bit more effort to take a photo with the 645D than with a P&S snapshot camera.

In regards of weight, the 645D is similar to the D3s and no one asks if the D3s is practical to lug around a whole day. On a personal note, having both D3s and 645D, the 645D seems to fit better in my hand and shoulder and arms hurt less after one day with the 645D compared to one day with the D3s.

I added a few photos in full resolution to http://www.pbase.com/tcom/645d

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villageradical
By villageradical (Nov 18, 2011)

The Sample Gallery is just awful. I won't condemn the camera for the poor quality images but since this is a photography website, perhaps you should get serious and hire someone who knows how to take a decent picture.

I am not trying to be snarky here, but this is embarrassing. If the staff can't take a picture then why should anyone believe their written words on the performance and features of the cameras being reviewed.

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JackM
By JackM (Nov 18, 2011)

Hello? These are *sample* images, not art. I see photos that check off several boxes - detail, dynamic range, color, skin tone, contrast, DOF, bokeh, etc. Sure, a real landscape or city scape is missing, that is a little odd. Sounds like you have a 645D and can take world-class pictures with it. So let's see some.

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AnHund
By AnHund (Nov 18, 2011)

The photos here are nice enough. I like the output if not pixel peeping. But if viewed 1:1 the quality is simply not convincing at all.

Take a look at pictures taken with the PhaseOne IQ180 - it makes the Pentax look like a P&S.

I simply don't think the Pentax IQ is good enough to justify the high price point.

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buda1065
By buda1065 (Nov 18, 2011)

Please, a little more preplanning when posting these sample galleries. I see a lot of snapshots, but nothing that can be classified as studio, portrait, product, architectural. or landscape--the kind of images you would buy a $10K MF camera to take. I have to concur with Tape5, this gallery is not very useful.

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Tape5
By Tape5 (Nov 18, 2011)

For a camera of this caliber :

Poor light testing
Poor DR testing
Poor subject matter testing
And poor resolution testing by not using a tripod
I dont mean to be nerdy but these look like they have come out of a 300 bucks camera.
Lovely surroundings and a very handsome kid though.

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duartix
By duartix (Nov 18, 2011)

Wow, and I thought I had trouble focusing in m43...

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healer81
By healer81 (Nov 18, 2011)

camera sounds and looks awesome but the sample pictures are not very interesting to look at...

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Photomonkey
By Photomonkey (Nov 18, 2011)

That would make you not buy it then?

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max metz
By max metz (Nov 18, 2011)

MF is a visual feast for old eye ball, sharp becomes gently clear and everything recorded is elevated to a different astral plane. A wonderful reminder what good camera output looks like.

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Antonio Chagin
By Antonio Chagin (Nov 18, 2011)

I really think that Pentax is going to make a move forward in medium format, something that would be too expensive for Canon to do. Pentax has the advantage of having had 2 MF systems developed, used and tried for many years (465 and 67) developing lens designs is so expensive even more nowadays, so they have one foot ahead of others, just like Mamiya did. I'm already buying some second hand lenses and expecting to get into it next year. Of course the versatility of my 5DMKII and its strenth makes it a keeper for many none hi-res projects..

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Antonio Chagin
By Antonio Chagin (Nov 18, 2011)

From here you can download some DNGs files to really know what this super camera is capable of:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/645D/645DA7.HTM

Hopre DPR won't get mad at me..

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mjdundee
By mjdundee (Nov 18, 2011)

They won't. If you look at the database for some cameras they even link to this and other sites who have reviewed cameras that DPR didn't.

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panchoskywalker
By panchoskywalker (Nov 17, 2011)

I wonder if there will be sometime a new version of this camera, not that I'll buy it, but if it tooks 5 yeard to go for production, will pentax be able to compete in the long run?

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jackpro
By jackpro (Nov 17, 2011)

This is why canon aimed the 1Dx at the low light highspeed market. For similar money, high res shooters will prefer MF any-day!

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Josh152
By Josh152 (Nov 18, 2011)

But once you include lenses it isn't' similar money anymore.

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Maxfield_photo
By Maxfield_photo (Nov 18, 2011)

Which ones? The two new digital lenses, or the 57 film 645 and 67 lenses? Last I checked Canon and Nikon had some $5000 lenses too. (sorry, Josh it's not quite clear whether you're arguing for or against)

It's actually an incredibly affordable system, it's just the start up costs are high for folks unaccustomed to medium format prices. You could sell a Hassy or Phase system and switch to Pentax at a profit if you wanted all the cool weathersealing and perfectly aligned sensor plane. You could sell a Canon or Nikon full frame system and step up to MF at a profit. Of course there are reasons not to do either, but at least the incentive is there.

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Münchhausen
By Münchhausen (Nov 17, 2011)

Thank you very much for this sample gallery! The IQ is just astonishing!!!! It would be so nice to post a full review, I don´t know if I ever will have enough money to buy it, but I´m already putting some aside. It´s a must-have, this camera!

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DanCart
By DanCart (Nov 18, 2011)

keep your fingers crossed ,hopefully by the end of the decade there might be second hand ones in the market for "affordable" prices

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m oLeathlobhair
By m oLeathlobhair (Nov 17, 2011)

If you are going to do a full review of the Pentax 645D, then why don't you have Hasselblad and Mamiya/PhaseOne in your database?
Not that I'm in the market for one of those, but I can always dream.

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jambaj0e
By jambaj0e (Nov 17, 2011)

I really really like this, BUT.... I can't use it for studio fashion photography since it doesn't tether to a monitor/laptop =\

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exp1orer
By exp1orer (Nov 17, 2011)

tethering is nice to have feature...but film photographers have been shooting in studio without even an LCD at the back of their SLRs.

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Maxfield_photo
By Maxfield_photo (Nov 17, 2011)

People do tether it using Eye-fi cards, but there is also a third party application for PC, PK Tether or something like that. I don't know why Pentax doesn't support it with native software though. A lightroom capture module would be amazing.

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mjdundee
By mjdundee (Nov 17, 2011)

Really impressive to see such large files at full resolution.
I still like how Pentax handles colours and its no difference in MF.
However I also find that the samples do not look exactly sharp - even at F 11. Not sure if it is due to the more shallow DOF that FF cameras also have but it surely reminds me on the original K7/K5 reviews here that also showed somehow OOF looking samples and test shots. Is it possible that Pentax has DPR on a 'lemon' list for lens supplies?

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WalterPaisley
By WalterPaisley (Nov 17, 2011)

I dunno...all web-based images seem to me to have the same quality. Nice shots but none that warrant digital MF investment. These could have come from almost any slr. BTW, I still own & use a Mamiya M645.

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Dianoda
By Dianoda (Nov 17, 2011)

I'd suggest checking out the resolution available from the pentax in the DPR studio shot. The level of detail is an order of magnitude above every DSLR available for comparison in the tool.

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AnHund
By AnHund (Nov 17, 2011)

You can download the full resolution files, but you still need a good monitor to view them.

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WalterPaisley
By WalterPaisley (Nov 17, 2011)

Just going by what I see on my monitors but pixel peeping is not my thing.

I have no doubt this camera can produce detailed wall-size murals.

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Chez Wimpy
By Chez Wimpy (Nov 17, 2011)

>The level of detail is an order of magnitude above every DSLR available for comparison in the tool.

'Order of magnitude'...? Hyperbole much?

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AnHund
By AnHund (Nov 17, 2011)

I think the images are very nice and colors are great, but if you pixel peep they are not very sharp.

Show the boy in column 1 picture 5 in full size and try to look at the eye where the focus is - it is not sharp at all. Also there is a lot of noise at ISO 800 and some smoothing going on (look at the hair).

Actually noise starts to creep in already at ISO 200.

I think it would have been a lot more interesting to see the raw output, because details are not that convincing when shown in full size.

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Simon97
By Simon97 (Nov 17, 2011)

The studio comparison tool here on DPR shows just how amazing this camera is. Compare it to any FF SLR. It is just not the megapixel count, it is also the sharpness and clarity of the images at full view.

Unfortunately it comes at a price. The cost and weight of the camera and lenses.

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Yanko Kitanov
By Yanko Kitanov (Nov 17, 2011)

These samples might've been taken in the real world and it probably was great fun taking these, still if you want to have more a more useful gallery, please, at least analyze what the common user has in his real world gallery.

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Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Nov 17, 2011)

if you have something specific in mind let me know for future reference, but bear in mind I only had the camera for a very short period of time (over a weekend, when family duties tend to get in the way!). When reviewing a camera we normally shoot the gallery over a period of 4-6 weeks.

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SETI
By SETI (Nov 17, 2011)

Great shots and great camera =) Really
Thanks !

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Yanko Kitanov
By Yanko Kitanov (Nov 19, 2011)

Hi Simon,

What I meant was, of course, not criticism concerning the shots, or a statement that other shots would look "better".

What I meant was that these would be more informative if they were more common, everyday shots, e.g. full scale architecture (not just small details of it) taken in good daylight, more detailed daylight landscapes, perhaps a closer (h&s) portrait taken at good daylight. I suggest these as these are a very common use for high resolution camera, which is not intended for simple P&S, fast action or low-light work. Of course I realize that this is just my opinion and it might very well be illogical for others.

Cheers!

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UrsH
By UrsH (Nov 17, 2011)

Wow im impressed! fantastic image quality!

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HDaRt
By HDaRt (Nov 17, 2011)

SD1 is a 15 megapixel camera with very limited usefulness. Read reviews on it. For the money there are a few top flight cameras that challenge this Pentax.

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JackM
By JackM (Nov 17, 2011)

see the wink, I was joking.

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JackM
By JackM (Nov 17, 2011)

Yeah but for the same money I could have an SD1!

;-)

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Dan Ortego
By Dan Ortego (Nov 17, 2011)

Wow! These are impressive photos and frankly I haven't considered Pentax for my next DLSR. I was, and still likely to wait and see if the 7D gets an update this year.

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JackM
By JackM (Nov 17, 2011)

You realize this is a Medium Format camera, right? Check out the price tag before you compare to the 7D.

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Adrian Flo
By Adrian Flo (Nov 17, 2011)

Pentax 645D is a medium format DSLR and Canon 7D is an APS-C sensor DSLR. Not even a full-frame DSLR will match the quality of a medium format digital camera. So, compare Pentax APS-C with Canon APS-C and after that [not] consider Pentax for your next DSLR.

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Bryan Jacoby
By Bryan Jacoby (Nov 17, 2011)

The Pentax K-5 (which, according to DxOMark has the best sensor of any APS-C DSLR) is the one to compare with the 7D.

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Joe Ogiba
By Joe Ogiba (Nov 17, 2011)

The 7D and K-5 should have upgrades by Photokina (Sep 18 2012).

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mike kobal
By mike kobal (Nov 17, 2011)

enjoyed shooting with the Pentax 645 back in the days, def want one, no need to whine about low light performance, this is a highres, shallow depth of field portrait and landscape camera, fwiw, based on DXO ratings still beats the Canon 7D in low light

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Zvonimir Tosic
By Zvonimir Tosic (Nov 17, 2011)

On that day when DPR reviews the 645D there'll be a thunderstorm. But on that day when they review the Leica M9, they'll open the can of worms.

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00112233
By 00112233 (Nov 17, 2011)

Pentax 645D body is 156x117x119mm and weights 1480g. incl. batt.
Canon EOS 1DX as announced is 158x164x83mm and weights "TBC"
Now, to find out what TBC is we can assume that physically has the same type of construction and materials as the EOS 1D Mark IV which is smaller and weights 1230g. incl. batt., the 1DX will then weight more, specially if we include the wireless file transmitter and the GPS receiver. The difference in weight between the 645D and the 1DX will become very small indeed. So I wonder who is going to have pains in shoulders. Fortunately most professionals have assistants that help carrying equipment!

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Sdaniella
By Sdaniella (Nov 17, 2011)

645D max iso is only 1600... notice gallery is missing images in low light... so, just add a nice 'must-have-for-low-light' TRIPOD to the 645D... meanwhile, the 1DX can go hand-held quite a bit further without a tripod (or flash) in such conditions (for which it was intended).
Worse, 645D lacks Canon's 'exposure simulation live preview' or ExpSim LV of all EOS LV dSLRs (for stills and 1080p HD video). All Pentax offers is conventional TTL meter indicators and a LV that is for framing-composition-focus (maybe WB too) which are a minor subset of ExpSim LV (more accurate than any old conventional TTL spot/area metering no matter how accomplished at the old method).

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tcom
By tcom (Nov 17, 2011)

@sdyue: the 1DX is not out yet, the 645D is available since over a year. And as the 645D features a CCD sensor, it does not have any LV.

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00112233
By 00112233 (Nov 17, 2011)

Live view makes sense with mirrorless cameras or making a film, but for real photography the viewfinder is better.
According to dp's specification chart, the 645D has LiveView and boosts ISO from 100 to 6400

http://www.dpreview.com/products/pentax/slrs/pentax_645d

But perhaps dp has it wrong this time?
Anyway, it will be very exciting to look in detail at handheld photos taken in the dark in high ISO with such a heavy camera as the 1DX, when at last comes out.

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tcom
By tcom (Nov 17, 2011)

I do have the 645D and it has no LiveView.

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Zvonimir Tosic
By Zvonimir Tosic (Nov 17, 2011)

Sydue wrote: "Worse, 645D lacks Canon's 'exposure simulation live preview' or ExpSim LV of all EOS LV dSLRs (for stills and 1080p HD video)."

What all these abbreviations have to do with photography? Are you trying to justify the value of one system versus another by the amount of abbreviations crammed into the camera body?

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gazonk
By gazonk (Nov 17, 2011)

It has no ExpSim? I guess it doesn't even come with a coffee brewer, then?

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JesperMP
By JesperMP (Nov 17, 2011)

Dont even start to compare 645D and 1DX.
Are there any other two cameras that can be more different ?
Yeah, they are both "pro" and they arein the same price league. But apart from that, they are very very different.
One camera excels in high resolution and dynamic range.
The other camera excels in operational speed, fast AF, hi-ISO, framerate and video.
If someone is considering one of these two cameras, he/she will know what the camera is good at and will accept the compromise that it is.

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JackM
By JackM (Nov 17, 2011)

@00112233, Live view is great for critical focus on a tripod. Unless the 645D has a split-screen/microprism, manual focusing at this DOF is going to be problematic.

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Vaards
By Vaards (Nov 17, 2011)

Harley Davidson has only two wheels, but my VW Golf has 4 working ones and one extra!

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tcom
By tcom (Nov 17, 2011)

It would be good if dpreview could test the camera with the FA645 75/2.8 which brings out much more details than the DFA645 55/2.8 kit lens. I do have a few samples under http://www.pbase.com/tcom/645d

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Debankur Mukherjee
By Debankur Mukherjee (Nov 17, 2011)

Can we have a detailed review of the Pentax 645D......

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Mssimo
By Mssimo (Nov 17, 2011)

I wish we had 14 bit monitors (and videocard output) to view these images in its true form. Would be amazing!

For those who don't understand:
8bit= 256 RED 256 BLU 256 GRN TOTAL: 16,777,216
12bit= 4096 RED 4096 BLU 4096 GRN TOTAL: 68,717,476,736
14bit= 16384 RED 16384 BLU 16384 GRN TOTAL: 4,398,046,511,104

Most LCD's are 8 bit, Plasmas are 12bit or 14bit but are limited by input.
Only pro video cards (quadro and Firepro)

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AV Janus
By AV Janus (Nov 17, 2011)

Would make no difference IMO...

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RonHendriks
By RonHendriks (Nov 18, 2011)

Well I bought a Fujitsu P27T-6 27 inch screen with 2560x1440 pixels and that is an amazing screen to view pictures on. Just invest a little money in such a device 9and a new videocard with Display Port)

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Muzz
By Muzz (Nov 17, 2011)

As a user & owner of a 645D I usually don't use it beyond 200 iso & can tell you noise at either 200 iso or 100 iso is not a problem. I also own a Canon 5D MK II and it beats the pants off it as you'd expect. Files should be opened in PS or similar rather than a basic file viewer too.

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AnHund
By AnHund (Nov 18, 2011)

I don't think it is impressive for the price. There is noise already at ISO 200, and the images are not that sharp if you pixel peep.

Take a look at the boy where focus is on the eye (the one taken at ISO 800) it is not very sharp. Also there is some smoothing in the hair which does not look very good.

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Tim F 101
By Tim F 101 (Nov 17, 2011)

Image quality is nice, but I cannot take Pentax seriously until they offer a body with wood burl technology.

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Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Nov 17, 2011)

i'm waiting for it in red, then i'm in.

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E.J.
By E.J. (Nov 17, 2011)

They already make it in red: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2011/7/13/pentax645dGP

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Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Nov 17, 2011)

did i say red? I meant white, obviously.

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chlamchowder
By chlamchowder (Nov 17, 2011)

The amount of resolved detail is just ridiculous. I'm very impressed.

There's some shadow noise at ISO 200 and a bit of moire (no AA filter?), but I would definitely want one....if I could afford it.

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waxwaine
By waxwaine (Nov 17, 2011)

This is why I love Pentax . They focus on the art of photography, unstead of making useless lenses with a infinitives codes like afs vr dx os dg%^^º¡...

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Matthew Miller
By Matthew Miller (Nov 17, 2011)

I dunno; we've got some letter soup too. SMC D FA AL (IF) ED SDM ★ (STAR) Limited.

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aris14
By aris14 (Nov 17, 2011)

Τhe Takumar way ...

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whtchocla7e
By whtchocla7e (Nov 17, 2011)

Noise at ISO100!! lol

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Lillrobert
By Lillrobert (Nov 17, 2011)

Way to much noise!

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Zvonimir Tosic
By Zvonimir Tosic (Nov 17, 2011)

Inside your head? Don't worry, we're not disturbed by it. Just keep going and don't shout aloud .. :)

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Lillrobert
By Lillrobert (Nov 17, 2011)

It is clearly visible already at iso800 in "large" size (1600*1198) screen view!
That's not ok for a camra in that pricerange i.m.h.o.

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AnHund
By AnHund (Nov 18, 2011)

There is noise already at ISO 200 if you pixel peep. It requires a good monitor like Eizo ColorEdge or similar.

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aris14
By aris14 (Nov 17, 2011)

How about a brief test between 645D vs Leica's S2?

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PicOne
By PicOne (Nov 16, 2011)

Ok, so its a quick sample gallery, but not one landscape, stopped down and shot at a distant scene?

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Aaron MC
By Aaron MC (Nov 16, 2011)

Everything is excellent. The lens gets a little soft by the edges, but center sharpness is amazing.

I'm seeing a lot of moire on the brick wall where the lens is sharpest, though. I don't explicitly notice it until I zoom in a bit, but I'm sure that it is affecting the color.

Aside from that, the resolution is truly amazing. I wish that I could rationalize the cost. I'm just not earning enough from photography to make it worth it.

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Maxfield_photo
By Maxfield_photo (Nov 16, 2011)

You just push the button and ART comes out.

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Itai42
By Itai42 (Nov 16, 2011)

Skin tones seem quite pleasing - and it is certainly a benefit to be able to use medium format glass - but I don't get the excitement from the IQ...
Dynamic range seem to me to be really awful and in terms of detail - I'm not sure you wouldn't get similar results by up-sampling a high end DSLRs' images... especially on higher ISO.
We'll have to wait for the full review... In any case - I still wouldn't object getting one as a birthday present :-)

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PG Thomas
By PG Thomas (Nov 17, 2011)

DR? Go look at the DXO tests......

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maksrossi
By maksrossi (Nov 16, 2011)

Extraordinary professional camera.
Really better than any Canon e Nikon.
Really Canon e Nikon have only a strong commercial.

5 upvotes
Graystar
By Graystar (Nov 16, 2011)

I was expecting much better results. The noise is terrible...even visible when full image is viewed. Disappointing...

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Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Nov 16, 2011)

honestly, i doubt most MF users will care too much about high ISo quality (and most of these files are converted from raw with little or no NR)

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d3xmeister
By d3xmeister (Nov 16, 2011)

You got to be kidding. You do realize you have to print at building sizes to see any noise from ISO 800 photos with that camera ?

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Faintandfuzzy
By Faintandfuzzy (Nov 16, 2011)

Some people are lost on the concept between 100% screen views and what appears on print. This camera shows no noise on a 40" print at iso 800.

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Graystar
By Graystar (Nov 16, 2011)

And some people don't know how to read. I said the noise is visible when viewing the FULL IMAGE. I'm also referring to the low ISO shots. Open up IMGP0198-ACR and look at the shadow side of the nose. There's no detail there at all. At 100% you see it's nothing but noise. And that's at ISO 200.

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Jarda_Houdek
By Jarda_Houdek (Nov 17, 2011)

I believe that particular image is some error in raw processing. All others look great regrdless of ISO.

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pauly6734
By pauly6734 (Nov 17, 2011)

Graystar, you have absolutely no idea WTF you are talking about!

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photo nuts
By photo nuts (Nov 17, 2011)

I am looking at IMGP0198-ACR now. I don't suppose you know what shallow depth of field means?

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Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Nov 17, 2011)

i uploaded the wrong version of that file - it was replaced soon after. The noise is simply down to lifting the shadows (and the fact it was in the wrong colour space so appeared even lighter than i intended)

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Richard Murdey
By Richard Murdey (Nov 17, 2011)

I looked at IMGP0198-ACR

There's no detail because the DOF is so shallow! LOL. It's not noise reduction blur. If you pulled it up 3 stops I'm sure you'd find some noise, but that's really beside the point, which is that the D645 is full of WIN!

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Boomz
By Boomz (Nov 17, 2011)

How close to the monitor are some of you at? Try 3 feet away if you're viewing it at 100% :)

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JackM
By JackM (Nov 17, 2011)

So Graystar, are we to take it that you routinely print 6 FOOT WIDE POSTERS and scrutinize them from 18" away? Because that's what you are doing when you look at these images at 100% on your 100dpi monitor.

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