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Fujifilm unveils X-S1 high-end superzoom and confirms Mirrorless intentions

By dpreview staff on Oct 5, 2011 at 17:33 GMT

Fujifilm has announced the X-S1 high-end superzoom and confirmed its intention to build a mirrorless interchangeable lens camera. The X-S1 is an addition to the company’s X-series and is built around the same 2/3” EXR CMOS sensor as the recently announced X10. Meanwhile, company president and CEO Shigetaka Komori said it will create a mirrorless, interchangeable lens camera built around a larger sensor with ‘resolution and low noise [that] will surpass the 35mm full size sensor.’ We’re not taking this to mean it will be a full-frame camera. More details will be announced nearer the Spring 2012 launch. The X-S1 features a 26x, 24-624mm equivalent F2.8-5.3 zoom and will be available from early 2012. (via DCWatch)

Canadian Fuji representatives, using the Twitter account '@fujiguys' have added:

'Fujifilm X Series Interchangeable lens system not = M4/3 nor current mirrorless cams. X series will be "premium" cameras!.'

Picture from DC Watch

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iae aa eia
By iae aa eia (Oct 5, 2011)

The best sensor size (among the smallest) for an enthusiast built-in lens camera in my opinion, is of the Nikon 1 system. I really would like to see that sensor becoming the new standard, the new smallest sensor. Smaller than that, for me, only for non-extendable zoom barrel compacts and phones. Otherwise, I'm off.

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Henry M. Hertz
By Henry M. Hertz (Oct 5, 2011)

urgs... i prefer m43 all the time.

but i agree ... a lumix LX6 with an "1" sensor would find the way in my pocket too.

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Ashley Pomeroy
By Ashley Pomeroy (Oct 5, 2011)

It looks a bit like a bath toy version of a Canon 5D!

No, seriously, the flat area beneath the prism is almost the same, it even has mock screw indentations. NB I have no idea what it's like on a photographic level; might be superb. f/5.3 @ 624mm isn't bad, but will it have image stabilisation? Fuji's superzooms traditionally haven't had this. Also, bring back the SuperCCD high-dynamic-range sensor, you devils.

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BJN
By BJN (Oct 5, 2011)

Fugly. Especially the barrel-stave lens ring ribbing and shape.

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djec
By djec (Oct 5, 2011)

so just to be clear, this 'mirrorless, interchangeable lens camera' ... with ‘resolution and low noise [that] will surpass the 35mm full size sensor.’ doesn't actually exist? kinda more of an ambition on fuji's part then. might as well have thrown in that it's smaller than a pack of cigs and costs only £9.99.

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frelwa
By frelwa (Oct 5, 2011)

The DC Watch report says it will be introduced at CES 2012 next Spring. "smaller than a pack of cigs ...£9.99"? What are you smoking?

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djec
By djec (Oct 5, 2011)

well my point was seeming as they admit to not having actually made anything (note their future tence), the claims about its performance seem a bit premature. hence my adding suggestions for the next time they announce a non existent product to drum up extra press.

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jaykumarr
By jaykumarr (Oct 7, 2011)

djec,
You said your point crisp, clear with a taste.

I am very very surprised one guy misunderstands and believes he should ask such a question and 3 others 'Like it' .!!!

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frelwa
By frelwa (Oct 5, 2011)

Fuji's Tokyo press conference was held mainly to introduce the X10 to the Japanese market. Most of the DC watch report is about it. That report also includes photos of some interesting Fuji sales breakdown charts etc.

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LutherHeggs00
By LutherHeggs00 (Oct 5, 2011)

Now I can sell my Fuji 6x7!

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Mescalamba
By Mescalamba (Oct 5, 2011)

Rather buy good scanner if you dont have already..

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elefteriadis alexandros
By elefteriadis alexandros (Oct 6, 2011)

''Now I can sell my Fuji 6x7!''
..Haha nice joke (i'm mean it!!).

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drakkar
By drakkar (Oct 5, 2011)

At last!!!!!! Bravo Fuji!!!!!!!

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steve_hoge
By steve_hoge (Oct 5, 2011)

Encouraging to see there's a manual control ring - assignable? - on the lens barrel. Motorized-only zooms are one of my pet peeves about these super-zoom cameras.

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NetMage
By NetMage (Oct 6, 2011)

Don't know if it is assignable, but it is pre-labeled with 35mm equivalent focal length settings.

I see no other zoom controls on it, so I doubt if it is assignable - possibly a manual zoom ring.

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digby dart
By digby dart (Oct 5, 2011)

Fuji really seem to be on a mission to change the enthusiast camera landscape, many will be looking very closely at the quality of this new 2/3rd exr sensor as x10 examples become more prolific. Given the pre order prices I've seen, if the sensor delivers, the x10 will be a bargain.

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policeman0077
By policeman0077 (Oct 5, 2011)

XS1 's lens is a little chunky...

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itsastickup
By itsastickup (Oct 5, 2011)

I like chunky.

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photobyingo
By photobyingo (Oct 5, 2011)

I am waiting a Camera made by Fuji for my Leica-M lenses.( Ricoh have one).
Fuji is very close now...

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kim_hdr
By kim_hdr (Oct 5, 2011)

X100 is very beautiful cam ! the XS1 is very ugly !

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eddie_cam
By eddie_cam (Oct 5, 2011)

It's not intended to be a handbag cam ... ;-)

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steve_hoge
By steve_hoge (Oct 5, 2011)

I gotta be able to use it like my FZ35. Much bigger or heavier is a no-go - otherwise I just bring my DSLR.

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eddie_cam
By eddie_cam (Oct 5, 2011)

Not going to happen. Just compare the size of the S100 and the FZ35 - there you have it!

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YiannisPP
By YiannisPP (Oct 5, 2011)

I'd like to see your DSLR with the set of lenses that cover 24-600mm:) Are you a weightlifter?!

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thx1138
By thx1138 (Oct 5, 2011)

Actually a FF equivalent of the Fuji 24-600 that is as slow would also be quite small. The Fuji is f/2.8-5.3, but the sensor has 4x crop factor so in FF terms, the lens is really the same as f/11.2-21.2. A 24-600 that slow would not be that large. Let's see how small the Fuji would look if it really had the equivalent of a 600 f/4, which would be a 150 f/1 on the Fuji. In real terms the lenses are much much slower than what is offered on FF, which is why they can be so small.

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Altruisto
By Altruisto (Oct 5, 2011)

You're wrong. F2.8 is always F2.8 and gives the same exposure with the same settings whatever is the sensor size. What you're suggesting is the depth of field equivalence, and the ability of the sensor to collect light. Sure a FF sensor for the same aperture collects more light, but a smaller sensor needs less light to get the same exposure. Sensor quality apart, for exposure matter, F2.8 is always F2.8.

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thx1138
By thx1138 (Oct 5, 2011)

Sorry you are wrong. There's not enough room here to discuss what has already been beaten to death. But your statement that the smaller sensor needs less light to get the same exposure is ridiculous.

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Garzon
By Garzon (Oct 6, 2011)

thx1138, what determines exposure is not sensor size, but the amount of light per area

if you compare an F2.8 DSLR lens for a 35mm sensor and a F2.8 lens of a compact, they shutter speed will be the same for the same F-number, in the same circumstances

what will be different is the amount of light that hits the two different sensors; it is obviously bigger for the DSLR, that is hy it gives a better picture quality

what will be the same, is the amount of light per unit, so, for 1 square mm, the amount of light will be the same for both sensors, but the DSLR has a bigger sensor surface, hence is the better quality, but the exposure time is the same

try it yourself with cameras that have different sensor sizes

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NetMage
By NetMage (Oct 6, 2011)

Once your shooting below m4/3 (or APS-C), I think you give up on DOF equivalence anyway. So what matters is shutter speed and for that, an APS-C f/2.8-5.6 super zoom lens would be huge.

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eddie_cam
By eddie_cam (Oct 5, 2011)

NR control when shooting JPEGs would be nice, and Raw is mandatory! ;-)

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NetMage
By NetMage (Oct 6, 2011)

The back button labeled RAW seems to indicate it has that.

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406shutterbug
By 406shutterbug (Oct 5, 2011)

I really can't wait to see it, but Spring 2012 release. Until then I'll shoot my S4000 until I purchase the HS20.

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steve_hoge
By steve_hoge (Oct 5, 2011)

Back photo, courtesy DC Watch:

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/481/838/42.jpg

I'd say that's veritably "bristling" with controls. Wish I had a better sense of the size.

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fastprime
By fastprime (Oct 5, 2011)

How about a FF X100 with an M mount?

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ianz28
By ianz28 (Oct 5, 2011)

and an adapter for f-mount

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Marty4650
By Marty4650 (Oct 5, 2011)

I think my Panasonic FZ30 was actually larger and heavier than my Olympus E510, and it only had a 12X zoom with a much smaller sensor than 2/3"

If these specs are real (36X zoom, 2/3" sensor, lens starting at f/2.8) then this camera should be HUGE. Unless there has been some breakthrough in physics, this will be a pretty large and heavy camera.

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eddie_cam
By eddie_cam (Oct 5, 2011)

26x zoom, fortunately. ;-)

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jaykumarr
By jaykumarr (Oct 5, 2011)

Fuji will do all extreme desperations like EXR, pixel binning, post processing, sharpening to make impossibles happen. I think this time they are screwed up with 'mirror lens'.

I would be 100 times happier if the lens were simple 12x and Fuji sells extn lens for $150. ( Fuji makex more $$$, I get more quality)

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ChrishsChan
By ChrishsChan (Oct 5, 2011)

Cannot use Lumix FZ30 to compare, I have one in perfect condition, but hibernated for a long, long time.

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Humboldt Jim
By Humboldt Jim (Oct 5, 2011)

jaykumarr; What's the matter with you, practical or something? ;-)

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Marty4650
By Marty4650 (Oct 6, 2011)

Thanks eddie... it was a typo, and you can't edit a comment after you post it!

Even 26X is quite a lot.....

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eddie_cam
By eddie_cam (Oct 5, 2011)

2/3" sensor and 26x zoom. I doubt that, lens-wise, there'll be good quality available with such a setup, if you remember the S100 (28-420 mm), but I'm willing to grant Fuji the benefit of the doubt. ;-)

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steve_hoge
By steve_hoge (Oct 5, 2011)

Specs! Specs?

And if this is EVF only what's that big honkin' prism-shaped thing on the top? Not sure that's going to fit in my handlebar bag.

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Photoman32428
By Photoman32428 (Oct 5, 2011)

Area for the flash unit.

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jotor
By jotor (Oct 5, 2011)

For the GPS I hope.

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NetMage
By NetMage (Oct 6, 2011)

And the EVF on the back...

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MEBEE
By MEBEE (Oct 5, 2011)

Ugly...

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evogt500
By evogt500 (Oct 5, 2011)

Finally its here!

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wutsurstyle
By wutsurstyle (Oct 5, 2011)

Interesting.. I would have liked it better had they included bridge cameras as part of their premium line, but an interchangeable mirrorless camera might do as long as they keep their fabolous color true to their name. I wonder what "resolution that will surpass a 35mm full size sensor" entails. If they get into this interchangeable lens business, then they have a lot of lens ecosystem building to do.

On a side note, that zoom range on that lens is pretty impressive for a 2/3" size sensor.

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slncezgsi
By slncezgsi (Oct 5, 2011)

It somehow looks to be DSLR sized - even looks like it would have a pentaprism. Just wondering ...

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Oct 5, 2011)

It's not a DSLR - it is based around an EVF.

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slncezgsi
By slncezgsi (Oct 5, 2011)

I know I know, but it just looks like a DSLR - size, shape - and I am wondering why ...

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Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (Oct 5, 2011)

Its because guys like you shall wonder :)

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kkardster
By kkardster (Oct 5, 2011)

The "pentaprism" is the collapsed pop-up flash unit.

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rushcreek
By rushcreek (Oct 6, 2011)

This looks really promising. I wonder if the "S" could mean "stabilized". That's one thing I would ask for. I may be in the minority but I wouldn't mind if it were close to DSLR-sized due to having fairly large hands.

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NetMage
By NetMage (Oct 6, 2011)

And the EVF - they had to put it somewhere.

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Aleo Veuliah
By Aleo Veuliah (Oct 5, 2011)

This is a good move, a good bridge camera with a 2/3 sensor like the S100 they made some time ago, and let's see the real quality of the future mirrorless camera they talk about

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Thoughts
By Thoughts (Oct 5, 2011)

The styling goes down quite a bit compared to its siblings. But still Fuji seems to be offering things that got people interested. Well done !

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Bashar Yassin
By Bashar Yassin (Oct 5, 2011)

Hello ,
2/3 '' sensor with 24-624mm sound interesting , but what about the price :D ?

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John McCormack
By John McCormack (Oct 5, 2011)

Hey, nobody said photography was a cheap hobby. :)

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Bashar Yassin
By Bashar Yassin (Oct 6, 2011)

Yeah but if the price is > 700$ then buying a DSLR is better =D ?

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johnparas11zenfoliodotcom
By johnparas11zenfoliodotcom (Oct 5, 2011)

if they make a X10-0 looking interchangeable lens-- I am all for it..

for me this is just a DSLR without the mirror.. it is still big..
I would rather have a mirrorless NIkon DSLR style then :-)- I mean imagine a nikon d5100 without the mirror-- that would be nice :-) -- small body with EVF instead of OVf..

ah.. what do i know..I will just wait.. at this point iam happy with my Nikon D90, Canon G12, and Oly E-PL2 (MFT) :-)

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johnparas11zenfoliodotcom
By johnparas11zenfoliodotcom (Oct 5, 2011)

correction X100 not X10-0 :-)

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five5pho
By five5pho (Oct 5, 2011)

a bit ungly...

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frosti7
By frosti7 (Oct 5, 2011)

A talkbacker by the name Jake writes on 43rumors.com comments that "is written there that the sensor will be smaller than FF but a bit bigger than APS-C."

Although im not sure where he gets that from, maybe its in Japanese?

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Oct 5, 2011)

We've spoken to Fujifilm and the transcript of the speech suggests the statement was that sensor will be bigger than the X-S1.

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jjlad
By jjlad (Oct 5, 2011)

That's not even close. See sensor size information here:
http://www.dpreview.com/learn/?/Glossary/Camera_System/sensor_sizes_01.htm

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RobertSigmund
By RobertSigmund (Oct 5, 2011)

Any information about the screen? Tilt/Swivel?

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kkardster
By kkardster (Oct 5, 2011)

Looks tilt to me - swivel would be a plus

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jcmarfilph
By jcmarfilph (Oct 5, 2011)

This is the kind of news that DPR should be posting. Not just another fancy beefed-up product to get more money from their diehard customers. =D

Way to go Fuji!

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T3
By T3 (Oct 5, 2011)

Who in their right mind would buy a Nikon 1 system, with Fuji and Canon anticipated to be coming with mirrorless systems using larger sensors than Nikon's? Not to mention the /existing/ mirrorless systems using larger sensors, too.

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AshMills
By AshMills (Oct 5, 2011)

Lens mount?

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love_them_all
By love_them_all (Oct 5, 2011)

The question is would they go small on the sensor for this mirrorless or will they build a new system off the X100.

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Gustavo Osterling
By Gustavo Osterling (Oct 5, 2011)

wow, hope it takes M lenses too.

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Ernest M Aquilio
By Ernest M Aquilio (Oct 5, 2011)

Things just got a little bit more interesting...

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Framer
By Framer (Oct 5, 2011)

A 2.3" sensor?! ;-)

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Oct 5, 2011)

I think the characters have got confused between editors. It should read 2/3" (for the X-S1), as per the X10. Sorry about any confusion caused.

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Framer
By Framer (Oct 5, 2011)

No confusion, it just got my heart going for a tenth of a second. Cheers.

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Almeida
By Almeida (Oct 5, 2011)

A superzoom with a 2/3" should be interesting, depending on price.

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kkardster
By kkardster (Oct 5, 2011)

Yep - we've been waiting for a bigger sensor, but with the current 1/2.3" sensor cameras pushing into dSLR price ranges, it'll be interesting to see where they place it. If ther can get close to the FZ150 features set with improved IQ and the slightly longer reach for under $500, it'll be a sure winner.

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Ryan
By Ryan (Oct 5, 2011)

2/3" sensor...large zoom, isn't this like an updated S100fs?? What's taken all these years??

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LE_Gui
By LE_Gui (Oct 5, 2011)

Considering that Japan was hit by a tsunami and still has a nuclear catastrophy going on, i'm still amazed that they (Fuji, Nikon...) can get some new products out.

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Frederick M
By Frederick M (Oct 6, 2011)

sounds good..
perhaps this is the long awaited replacement of my Lumix DMC FZ50

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zakaria
By zakaria (Oct 6, 2011)

fuji s100 was a great bridge camera but was expensive too.
I hope the new x-s1 has the same image quality but with less price.
regarding to the mirrorless I think it is the time for fuji to build its own mount.it is a shame that a company like fuji doesnt have a mount wheras small and new company to photography has many mounts like pentax/3 mounts/ panasonic/2 mounts/sony/3 mounts/ nikon/2 mounts/.why fuji wait for other to give it a licence to use a mount.mirrorless camers is new for all so all companies has the same chance in the market.

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Eduardnic
By Eduardnic (Oct 6, 2011)

This will be good enough for family shots. The F2.8-5.3 will be bad for creative purposes. I have Canon SX30IS and I hate that I cannot adjust the aperture to f16...

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chromalighting
By chromalighting (Oct 6, 2011)

The X100 and X10 have been lauded for their retro-rangefinder looks. Surely this is an opportunity to produce a small, metal bodied bridge camera that looked physically like an OM10 or equivalent small film SLR but performs like an S100fs or Lumix GF2. That would appeal to all those who like to be seen with a cool camera but want more range than the X100.

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