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Tamron offers 17-50mm F2.8 VC prize for dpreview challenge

By dpreview staff on Oct 3, 2011 at 19:47 GMT

Tamron is offering an F2.8 zoom to the winner of a Travel and Nature challenge on dpreview.com. The competition, open to any registered dpreview member, runs until October 24th. The winner will be decided by public vote over the following seven days. The winning photographer will receive a Tamron SP 17-50mm F/2.8 Di II XR VC LD Aspherical (IF) in Canon or Nikon mount (Full-frame shooters can request an unstabilized 28-75mm F2.8 instead), making this the first dpreview challenge with a competition prize.

Click here to enter the Tamron Prize Challenge: Travel and Nature

Comments

Total comments: 68
Ralf B
By Ralf B (Nov 5, 2011)

From the voting "result" and the way it was manufactured via social networks, it looks like Tamron wasted that prize.

1 upvote
jjlmoose
By jjlmoose (Oct 7, 2011)

Wow... Post a picture and have a chance at a free lens, yet all I see here is ...boohoo, it's not for my camera. ...whaaaa, it's got crappy image quality. ...Baaah, just a marketing ploy from Tamron.

How about, ...hey, this is awesome! Maybe other manufacturers will follow suit and offer up something for my Olympus, Sony etc... Or, ...cool, might not have the best IC, but it's fast, light and compact! Or, ...it's nice that there's other choices of lenses that stay competitive with the C & N glass...

Thank you DPreview for putting this challenge together. Hopefully there will be many more such challenges to come. It just might get everyone out from in front of their computer, and actually shooting instead of complaining!

3 upvotes
rudymnv
By rudymnv (Oct 6, 2011)

I don't mind Tamron having big advertisement with this challange. I think dpreview is doing good job, hope this become practice in future. Regarding lens, I own non-VC version of this lens, and it's great lens with almost no alternative in price range. However, I think winner of competition should choose 28-75 f2.8 instead, or try to get non-VC version. Good luck.

0 upvotes
tipit08
By tipit08 (Oct 6, 2011)

Sorry my friend, but this is a " C O M M E N T S " section after all... if you or DPR don't like the comments... then don't put a comment's section.

Giving a free lens as a prize is basically advertising from Tamron that want you to buy their product. I feel more than justified, as a consumer and regular DPR reader, to tell Tamron through this medium that I'm very disappointed in their VC version of this lens, since, for some reason, the optics in this particular lens are a serious downgrade from the non-VC version. They simply did not do their homework and submitted a sub-par lens at a higher price.

What's wrong with voicing my concerns and disappointment ? I love the non-VC version of this lens which I have had in the past and simply hope that Tamron goes back to the drawing board and gives us all a worthy "VC" successor to that lens and not the serious downgrade of a lens they are now offering as a prize for this contest !

0 upvotes
gabeb1946
By gabeb1946 (Oct 6, 2011)

Here's a rare reply - I've considered your point and I agree with you to a degree. It is a COMMENTS section as you say - and if you feel it's the right place to express your opinion of Tamron more power to you. My point was that it's something being given away for free, it's not a case of "buyer beware" and perhaps there is a better place (Tamron lens test?) to criticize this lens. I will defend your right to say it though :).
Cheers!

0 upvotes
gabeb1946
By gabeb1946 (Oct 5, 2011)

I've just read a fast sampling of the first 50-80 responses.
Is this what we've become? (And not just the U.S. - I assume many other countries are represented by whining here).
Unbelievable !
If you don't like the Tamron lens, the contest rules, the selection process, DPreview, Nikon, Canon, etc. etc. etc. DON'T ENTER THE BLOODY CONTEST. DON"T READ DPREVIEW! LEARN TO SPELL!GET A PHONE-CAM, AND MATCH YOUR WIT.

2 upvotes
fnsy
By fnsy (Oct 5, 2011)

its great all of you folks hate the tamron prize ! my chance to win :P

0 upvotes
tipit08
By tipit08 (Oct 5, 2011)

If only the lens they were offering was any good...

According to the Photozone website, the VC version of this lens is nowhere near the quality of the non-VC one. Sorry, but I have no interest in this lens, even if I could get it for free.

1 upvote
stern
By stern (Oct 5, 2011)

Although I already won one, I hate contests with public votings. I have stopped participating in them because I appreciate a learned verdict delivered by independent pros who take responability for their decisions. Public votings have nothing to do with quality and/or responsability. Besides, I use Pentax (with mirror) and Ricoh (w/o mirror)... thus making this contest prize-wise less interessting.

2 upvotes
Ted8
By Ted8 (Oct 5, 2011)

This is my first post,i am new to this but old to other standards.I have read your comments and i just wanted to say that anyone that puts up a prize and gives you an opportunity to win it in a fair manner is ok by me.

3 upvotes
chiane
By chiane (Oct 4, 2011)

Would love to see someone from Pentax or Sony win. Whoops, epic contest fail.

4 upvotes
abolit
By abolit (Oct 4, 2011)

Oh, that would be funny :)

0 upvotes
abolit
By abolit (Oct 4, 2011)

I got a chance to try tamron 17-50 (with optical stabilizer) and I can tell you guys - this is the worst lens I've ever seen. The first version of 17-50 (no stabilization) has been serving me good (for almost a year) until the focus/zoom ribbon belt broke. They use rubber to gear the zoom (after it broke I disassembled the lens)
Another not a good thing was shooting with Tamy 17-50 in cold temperature . It was a nightmare experience.

0 upvotes
VicAndNor
By VicAndNor (Oct 4, 2011)

My goodness! I'm glad that I didn't buy a new third party lens, but a 20 year old Nikkor 35-70 mm f/2.8. Delivers great photos and is build like a tank. I bet it'll last another 20, because it feels very solid and feels much less worn than my kit lens. The poor man pays twice, they say?

0 upvotes
Bryan Jacoby
By Bryan Jacoby (Oct 4, 2011)

How very unfortunate. Since they are making an alternate lens available for FF users, why not make the (less expensive and reputedly optically superior) non-VC 17-50mm available to include Pentax and Sony/Minolta shooters?

0 upvotes
bdery
By bdery (Oct 4, 2011)

It's fun to see that again, Canikon users assume only their brands are worth anything. Maybe these manufacturers could give a free "moooo" t-shirt with every purchase...

1 upvote
Lukino
By Lukino (Oct 4, 2011)

I will not going to post my beautiful photos that wuld be surely win and bless your eyes in holyness for weeks, because Tamron does not offer his lens in m39 screw mount for my Zorki! This is obviously an evil plan of dpreview, sold to Japanese Zaibatsu against the randomly high quality of fine Soviet craftmanship!

12 upvotes
abolit
By abolit (Oct 4, 2011)

I don't want this Tamron even for free. I would fight for Nikon 85 1.4 or 24 1.4 but rip my but for Tamron? Nah....

0 upvotes
Christoph v Ballmoos
By Christoph v Ballmoos (Oct 4, 2011)

nobody would rip anything for you

0 upvotes
dpRobert
By dpRobert (Oct 4, 2011)

Other than Nikon or Canon users can always change their mind and move to one of the two proper systems ;) As somebody said here, that only filters, lens cleaning sets and bags for photo equipment are system independent.... So there always will be unhappy persons.

I am happy that there is prize for challenge winner and I hope that there are more and more challenges / competitions on DPR with prizes in near future.

The other think is that, there are unfair voting issues (few people have mentioned here). This is BIG problem which should be solved by DPR.

1 upvote
RDMPhotos
By RDMPhotos (Oct 5, 2011)

Not true, about "only filters, lens cleaning sets and bags for photo equipment are system independent.." If they were to produce a lens in a T-mount or revive the adaptall mount then any camera system can use it.
What does T-mount stand for again?

0 upvotes
IcyVeins
By IcyVeins (Oct 4, 2011)

The VC version of the lens is worse optically than the previous version, according to tests from SLRGear. One more reason why Sony shooters have it good - SteadyShot in the camera!

2 upvotes
Atlantis_Risen
By Atlantis_Risen (Oct 4, 2011)

The winner of this contest should be determined by the dpreview staff. Making the forum members choose just turns it into a popularity contest.

5 upvotes
roblarosa
By roblarosa (Oct 4, 2011)

I don't know who the winners will be but it's now obvious who the whiners are.

9 upvotes
jj74e
By jj74e (Oct 4, 2011)

my main issue with the challenges section of dpreview is the voting system. it's all fine and dandy to leave it to dpreview users to vote, until you actually think about it. how many people are actually going to look through dozens, and sometimes even hundreds of submissions and hand pick the one they think is best? if anything, people probably just browse through the first couple pages, maybe a few other random ones, and then just pick one and all the rest get ignored.

4 upvotes
dara2
By dara2 (Oct 4, 2011)

I thought the images were randomized on every page visit?

0 upvotes
Andy Westlake
By Andy Westlake (Oct 4, 2011)

Every voter sees their own randomized order of images, so every image gets statistically equal exposure overall. We also ask voters to rank images they look at, not necessarily 'select the best'. Amazingly, we did actually think about it all too.

4 upvotes
DB Custom
By DB Custom (Oct 4, 2011)

Sounds good to me! Good idea Tamron, any other "major" lens manufacturers care to sweeten the pot?

Aw come on everybody! Every thing is not for every body! If you couldn't use a Tamron lens in Nikon or Canon mount, don't participate!

Nice swing up dpreview, keep up the good work!

4 upvotes
onlooker
By onlooker (Oct 4, 2011)

Bet you dollars to donuts that by the time voting starts, there will be thousands of entries and most will just vote on thumbnails. ;)

5 upvotes
jvkelley
By jvkelley (Oct 4, 2011)

You're probably right, and since you know that, you can use this to your advantage. Make sure your submission looks great as a thumbnail. An interesting subject, good use of composition, dynamic range, color, and negative space are more important in thumbnails because people aren't getting lost in the details. Noise, razor sharp focus, CA and those types of things won't be noticed by people who only look that the thumbnail. HDR and oversharpening look worse in thumbnails than they do in full-size pictures.

0 upvotes
David*N
By David*N (Oct 4, 2011)

Boy, unless you are getting some kind of fee in addition to the lens, that was cheap advertising Tamron bought....

1 upvote
Zvonimir Tosic
By Zvonimir Tosic (Oct 3, 2011)

"Give us your best shot"?
Why best shot? Why not give this lens to people with a worst shot, so they can improve on photography — if that's the real purpose of competitions like this — improvement on photography through a superb lens?
Many people who submit their best shots already have similar gear, if not better. This reminds me of dumb Leica competition, where contestants *must* take their photos with a Leica camera — isn't the whole purpose to give Leica camera to someone who hasn't got one?!
Gosh!

3 upvotes
Rupert Bottomsworth
By Rupert Bottomsworth (Oct 4, 2011)

How ridiculous.
You make some appalling assumptions here: "Many people who submit their best shots already have similar gear, if not better."
A good photograph isn't made with good equipment, it is made by the person holding the camera. Many times I've seen photos taken by someone using cameras like a Canon 400D, Nikon D70 or other "old" camera that people on this site rubbish because of their age, but the photos blow away 95% of any photo taken with a "modern" camera due to the photographer's skill.

Secondly: "This reminds me of dumb Leica competition, where contestants *must* take their photos with a Leica camera — isn't the whole purpose to give Leica camera to someone who hasn't got one?!"
The purpose of competitions like this is to promote Leica, not to give away Leica cameras to people who don't have one.

Your whole post essentially says "let's encourage mediocrity".

2 upvotes
Zvonimir Tosic
By Zvonimir Tosic (Oct 4, 2011)

Rupert, your comments are worth exactly your nickname's last name. I have seen too many competitions won by pro event photographers, pro stock photographers, who already have the same or better gear. Last year in Leica's competition a Leica D-lux 4 was given to a fellow who has an M9 with 50mm Leica lens. That combo already costs $10,000.
To them having one extra lens, or a pocket camera, is worth exactly that — nothing.
There absolutely no purpose giving them such awards. Instead, someone who is eager to learn, would benefit much better.
Yes, those mediocre shots exactly, where is obvious that a faster lens or better isolation would help improve the composition, the artistic impression.

4 upvotes
Rupert Bottomsworth
By Rupert Bottomsworth (Oct 4, 2011)

You fail to understand this is a competition, not a charity. The competition will be won by the best photo, not the photo taken with the best camera/lens. For all we know the winning photo might be taken with a cellphone camera.

Do you think Leica should run competitions with a rule that says no Leica cameras are allowed to be used?

1 upvote
driftnomore
By driftnomore (Oct 4, 2011)

i guess you're right.let the DPR staff determine the worst taken shot and hand him the prize.

1 upvote
memo90061
By memo90061 (Oct 3, 2011)

Can someone vote for their pic? It doesn't say anything about not voting for it. Hmm. How do you vote? I've never been in a dpreview challenge before. I have been looking for a new lens, and this one looks very good for my Canon T2i.

0 upvotes
Andy Westlake
By Andy Westlake (Oct 4, 2011)

No you can't vote for your own image. For voting information, see here: http://www.dpreview.com/learn/?/Help/ChallengesHelp01.htm#judgingguide

0 upvotes
Lee Jay
By Lee Jay (Oct 3, 2011)

An open ended challenge about any type of photography (travel and nature means virtually anything) with no criteria judged through the terminally flawed DPReview challenge process.

Why not just give the lens to a random forum member? It would skip a bunch of steps and accomplish the same purpose.

0 upvotes
nitropizza
By nitropizza (Oct 3, 2011)

It's a start either way whatever the prize. I hope this kind of thing continues, whatever the brand.
I'd certainly love to win that lens personally.
Bill.

0 upvotes
CanonPhotog
By CanonPhotog (Oct 3, 2011)

Personally, I don't think a prize should be offered that can't be utilized be all participants of the Challenges. I realize that if the Challenge winner is not a Nikon or Canon user, that they can just sell the lens, but that kind of defeats the purpose of offering a specific product as a prize vs. just simply offering money as a prize to begin with. Certainly, it's nice to have third-party companies offer up prizes like this to DPR Challenge winners, so kudos to Tamron for their generous offer. But honestly, the fact that the prize being offered is only usable to a select group of Challenge participants is a bit exclusionary. :)

4 upvotes
tkbslc
By tkbslc (Oct 3, 2011)

This would be a problem no matter what was offered. There is no product that everybody needs/wants. Even if you offered a new car, some people live in buildings with no parking.

8 upvotes
Gregory Smith
By Gregory Smith (Oct 4, 2011)

I understand the sentiment, but in this case it is Tamron sponsoring the prize, not DPReview. The prize does have real monetary value and can be sold by the winner for a tidy sum if the lens is not compatible with their gear.

0 upvotes
Higuel
By Higuel (Oct 4, 2011)

Tamron makes this lens for several more brands! It is obviously bad thinking to offer it in just 2!!!

PS: I have a Canon! But i'm always in favor of justice!!!

1 upvote
Calroadbiker
By Calroadbiker (Oct 3, 2011)

The Amazon Connection.

0 upvotes
Marty4650
By Marty4650 (Oct 3, 2011)

This is a really good idea. When you consider how much money these companies spend on advertising, then a $500 lens give-away seems like a raging bargain for them.

I hope other firms follow Tamron's lead in this...

1 upvote
djec
By djec (Oct 3, 2011)

$500? i would be very surprised if tamron have to pay the full retail price on their own lens!

(also i imagine they had to grease dpreviews palms too)

2 upvotes
rtogog
By rtogog (Oct 3, 2011)

Good news for Nikon & Canon user, but not for other mount users. May be they will not "win"
this challenge. Let us see who will be the winner.

2 upvotes
Ivanaker
By Ivanaker (Oct 3, 2011)

Nikon & Canon are used by photographers, all the smaller formats are just... well you know what i mean :P

0 upvotes
vodanh1982
By vodanh1982 (Oct 3, 2011)

It's like Sony and Pentax cannot win

1 upvote
Marty4650
By Marty4650 (Oct 3, 2011)

Well.... a Pentax, Sony or Olympus user can always sell the lens if they win the challenge. There aren't very many products that can be used on "every brand made".... except filters of course.

2 upvotes
_Tripod_9
By _Tripod_9 (Oct 3, 2011)

Well My Sony NEX-5N can use the lens with an inexpensive adapter, But that's not the point here is it. Seems that N & C are the only legit. ILCs in DPR & Tamron's universe. Too bad !

0 upvotes
Jay Aich
By Jay Aich (Oct 4, 2011)

People will complain about anything. That's the take-away message here. Free lens? Waawaawaa - my choice was not respected. Waawaawaa.

7 upvotes
AlexBakerPhotoz
By AlexBakerPhotoz (Oct 3, 2011)

A prize, woo hoo! I think it's very nice of Tamron. Good inexpensive marketing.

1 upvote
Rennie Petersen
By Rennie Petersen (Oct 3, 2011)

"Full-frame shooters can request an unstabilized 28-75mm F2.8 instead", and for us Olympus hold-outs?

2 upvotes
roblarosa
By roblarosa (Oct 3, 2011)

Request a Nikon or Canon body?

6 upvotes
Alexander Yegorov
By Alexander Yegorov (Oct 3, 2011)

And then request 17-50

1 upvote
Rennie Petersen
By Rennie Petersen (Oct 4, 2011)

@roblarosa: "Request a Nikon or Canon body?"

Makes me think of the old joke:
First prize: a Nikon or Canon body.
Second prize: two Nikon or Canon bodies! :-)

1 upvote
Rupert Bottomsworth
By Rupert Bottomsworth (Oct 4, 2011)

Do people still use Olympus DSLRs? ;)

0 upvotes
roblarosa
By roblarosa (Oct 4, 2011)

@Rennie Petersen - lol, that's good!

0 upvotes
RDMPhotos
By RDMPhotos (Oct 5, 2011)

"and for us Olympus hold-outs?" just get the 17-50mm in Nikon mount and use an adapter. Real Photographers do not need automatic functions only the lazy wannabees and Sports photographers do, but same thing.

0 upvotes
dpRobert
By dpRobert (Oct 3, 2011)

HI all! Nice to hear that. I hope other companies will follow Tamron, because challenge / competition without a prize doesn't sound good. I agree with onlooker that this is good marketing strategy for photo equipment manufacturers.

1 upvote
IcyVeins
By IcyVeins (Oct 3, 2011)

Also I would hope that dpreview keeps a lookout for suspicious voting by people who vote 5 stars for one entry and 0.5 for everything else

6 upvotes
KerryBE
By KerryBE (Oct 3, 2011)

I think there are lots of ways that this will generate controversy. Hopefully it won't drown out the positive aspects.

0 upvotes
Andy Westlake
By Andy Westlake (Oct 4, 2011)

Rest assured we have systems in place that analyse voting patterns for suspicious activity, and have disqualified/banned people on the past for this sort of thing.

0 upvotes
IcyVeins
By IcyVeins (Oct 3, 2011)

Great news! But I hope they would allow Sony users to choose the old 17-50 XR Di II.

1 upvote
onlooker
By onlooker (Oct 3, 2011)

Kudos to Tamron! Excellent marketing.

6 upvotes
Mike Ronesia
By Mike Ronesia (Oct 3, 2011)

I like it! Nice to see you guys upping the ante.

0 upvotes
Total comments: 68