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Samsung and Google unveil Galaxy Nexus with Android 4.0

By dpreview staff on Oct 19, 2011 at 16:38 GMT

Google and Samsung have announced the Galaxy Nexus smartphone - the first to use the latest version of the Android operating system. Android 4.0 (also known as Ice Cream Sandwich) features a series of enhancements for photographers, including support for what the companies are claiming is a 'zero shutter lag exposure.' The camera app included in the software also supports digitally stabilized zoom, single-motion panorama shooting and the ability to take HD snapshots as video is being shot. Ice Cream Sandwich also features a redesigned album layout and a photo editor, allowing cropping, rotation and simple image corrections. The Galaxy Nexus handset has a 1280x720 screen and 5MP camera capable of using Android 4.0's 'zero shutter lag' feature.

Press Release:

Samsung and Google introduce GALAXY Nexus

World’s First Smartphone to feature Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich and a HD Super AMOLED display

Hong Kong – October 19, 2011 – Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd, a leading mobile device provider, and Google, today announced GALAXY Nexus™, the world’s first smartphone running Android™ 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich, the latest release of the Android platform. GALAXY Nexus features a 4.65” HD Super AMOLED display technology at 720p resolution and a 1.2GHz dual core processor.

“Samsung and Google have closely collaborated to push the mobile experience forward. We are pleased to deliver the best Android smartphone experience for customers with GALAXY Nexus. We will continue to move forward with Android to provide the compelling consumer experience in mobile world,” said JK Shin, President and Head of Samsung’s Mobile Communications Business.

“Ice Cream Sandwich demonstrates the Android platform’s continued innovation with one release that works on phones and tablets and everything in between. Features like Android Beam and Face Unlock show the innovative work our team is doing, and GALAXY Nexus showcases the power behind Ice Cream Sandwich,” said Andy Rubin, Senior Vice President of Mobile for Google.

The first smartphone to feature Android 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich

Ice Cream Sandwich brings an entirely new look and feel to Android. It has a redesigned user interface with improved multi-tasking, notifications, Wi-Fi hotspot, NFC support and a full web browsing experience.GALAXY Nexus features software navigation buttons, a first for Android smartphones. The lock screen, home screen, phone app, and everything in between has been rethought and redesigned to make Android simple, beautiful, and useful.

Ice Cream Sandwich also features a new People app, which lets you, browse friends, family, and coworkers, see their photos in high-resolution, and check their latest status updates from Google+ and other social networks. GALAXY Nexus features a redesigned camera which introduces panorama mode, 1080p video capture, zero-shutter lag, and effects like silly faces and background replacement.

GALAXY Nexus is also connected to the cloud, keeping your email, contacts, and all other data synced across your devices. You have access to more than 300,000 apps and games from Android Market™, or, in certain countries, you can buy and read books, or rent movies and stream them instantly from your phone. In the U.S., you can also upload your music to the cloud with Music Beta by Google and listen anywhere, even when offline.

Ice Cream Sandwich introduces innovations such as Face Unlock which uses facial recognition to unlock your phone. Using NFC technology, Android Beam allows you to quickly share web pages, apps, and YouTube™ videos with your friends by simply tapping your phones together. You can even use fun effects while shooting video or video chatting with Google Talk™.

Google Experience

GALAXY Nexus is designed to provide a “pure Google,” experience, and with it, you will be the first to receive software upgrades and new applications as they become available. It also features a number of Google Mobile services, including: Android Market, Gmail™, Google Maps™ 5.0 with 3D maps and turn-by-turn navigation, Google Earth™, Movie Studio, YouTube™, syncing with Google Calendar™, and a redesigned Google+ app.

Best-in-class hardware meets the most advanced software

GALAXY Nexus is the first smartphone to feature a 4.65’’ display with a market-leading resolution of 720p (1280x720), ensuring you can enjoy GALAXY Nexus’ immersive entertainment capabilities and fast web browsing in superior clarity.

Succeeding the original Contour Display of Nexus S, GALAXY Nexus comes with a rounded shape that fits perfectly within your palm or to your face for phone calling. Hyper-skin backing on the battery cover improves the ergonomic feel of the device and makes the phone slip-resistant. At just 8.94mm thick, with a minimal 4.29mm bezel, GALAXY Nexus provides superb portability alongside an expansive screen.

GALAXY Nexus also features an ultra-fast 1.2GHz dual core processor, providing superior power and speed, ensuring you can take full advantage of GALAXY Nexus’ enhanced multitasking capabilities with ease, or enjoy the large, vivid display to its full capacity with high-definition gaming or video streaming. LTE or HSPA+ connectivity combined with a dual core processor delivers high-speed web browsing which ensures you always have the web at your fingertips, wherever you are.

GALAXY Nexus will be available in the U.S., Europe, and Asia beginning in November and gradually rolled out to other global markets.

Comments

Total comments: 132
NigelMoore
By NigelMoore (Oct 24, 2011)

DPR needs a full, in-depth comparison review on pin-hole cameras such as this, the iPhone, and other Christmas cracker cameras.

No, really, I mean it....

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amicus70
By amicus70 (Oct 24, 2011)

Interesting mobile.

Time to buy the Galaxy S2 (hopefully its price will tumble down).

1 upvote
BBnose
By BBnose (Oct 23, 2011)

Steve Jobs said "I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong,"
"I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this."
Jobs left the words in anger in his biography.

So, how can we still buy the stolen product " Android "! No! At lease I can't.

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harry2007
By harry2007 (Oct 23, 2011)

Wonder if Palm would have approached Jobs and told him to stop using their ideas. What he would have said?

4 upvotes
Gregory J McConville
By Gregory J McConville (Oct 24, 2011)

Hey man. Steve Jobs was NOT Edison, or anything even close. He didn't invent anything. Mac OS is a nice GUI, but it's not an invention. He didn't invent the cell phone, either.

1 upvote
Radovan
By Radovan (Oct 24, 2011)

You guys know very little about Jobs, Apple, NextSTEP ... Get your asses on Wikipedia before you diss Jobs. Apple Newton platform preceded Palm by a decade. GUI is an invention and Apple was the first one with a product on the market. And while Jobs did not invent GUI (Xerox did), Edison did not invent lightbulb, but his design was used for over 100 years.

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wahtk
By wahtk (Oct 25, 2011)

Let's not talk ill of the dead, but the fact is, there is very little if anything that Jobbs invented. PDAs were invented by Psion, PCs had been in existence long before Apple existed and Apple did not invent mobile phones, or mobile phones with other applications in them. However let's give credit where credit is due, what he was a genius at was making products better and more desirable then the competition, and knowing when to introduce them.

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marsbar
By marsbar (Oct 25, 2011)

I personally don't care who invented what... I only care that I can get the product I need, at the best quality I can afford. End of story!

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Radovan
By Radovan (Dec 19, 2011)

just wanted to say ... in a sense Jobs was exactly like Edison ... Edison took already existing ideas and made it work ... Edison invented a lot less than he is credited for ...

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Marco Boerner
By Marco Boerner (Oct 22, 2011)

This phone sucks! What about an interchangeable lens? XLR audio inputs? Full size keyboard? Dual CF card slot?

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shaocaholica
By shaocaholica (Oct 21, 2011)

Android and iOS need to have a switch to turn on manual controls and RAW capture. Its only a matter of time.

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Photog23
By Photog23 (Oct 21, 2011)

I think the SuperAMOLED screens in the Samsung smart phones put them head and shoulders above all other smart phone manufacturers, especially for viewing pictures and reading text. If you have never seen the screens, go get a demo. You'll be amazed. I'm not so interested in the smart phone form factor, but the Galaxy 7.7 that Samsung will be releasing soon with the same SAMOLED screen is going to be REALLY interesting to photographers.

But the down side about all of these phones is people never talk about call quality anymore, which means that call quality will continue to progress in it's path to irritatingly awful. This is why I owned and rejected a high end smart "phone". I've decided that they may be smart, but they aren't a phone. For me, a tablet and a flip phone with good call quality are the best combination of technologies.

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Cariboo
By Cariboo (Oct 21, 2011)

I have looked at a SA screen on the Samsung Nexus S & compared it to my eventual purchase of a HTC DHD. The non SA screen of the HTC DHD (older technology too) WAS FAR SUPERIOR FOR MY NEEDS. The non SA screen of the HTC DHD offered more accurate colors, a better tonal range & better resolution. I am a pro photographer with 25+ years experience & am very tech literate, so I knew what I was looking at & for. The HTC DHD was for my eyes as a photographer MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH better than the SuperAmoled of the Nexus S. Maybe to kids or folks looking for contrasty eye candy, it would be the opposite view?

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jesslo07
By jesslo07 (Oct 23, 2011)

Why any photographer would vouch for AMOLED is beyond my means of comprehension. Either that, or it's completely absurd.

The AMOLED technology has always overly saturated colors, thus making it the arch enemy of all artistic content creators. Why would you advocate a product that exaggerates your work, beyond how you intended it to be viewed?

What a photographer should always value the most is pixel density and color accuracy, which is precisely what the iPhone 4/4S' screen is the best at. One thing to note about the Galaxy Nexus is that this is the first debut of the "Super AMOLED Plus" display. Initial reviews have already noted that it suffers from reduced sharpness (despite being 720P) and even worse color saturation.

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abolit
By abolit (Oct 21, 2011)

Hey, Samsung ! Don't you think it's time to stop sniffing apple's ass and come up with something new? Apple will always be ahead because it does it first and it does it right. Please stop replicating iphone. Thanks!

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Photog23
By Photog23 (Oct 21, 2011)

You do realize that a great many parts in Apple phones are made by Samsung, right?

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shaocaholica
By shaocaholica (Oct 21, 2011)

Err, no. Apple does not always 'do it first'. Do you realize how crappy things would be if no one were allowed to copy Apple -AND- Apple were not allowed to copy anyone else in return?

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Michaels7
By Michaels7 (Oct 21, 2011)

Wow. I sense some projecting here. If you read another report on this, Apple 4s has borrowed from the Android smart phones too. Even Apple gave in to multitasking that Android used first. Amazing how some of the Apple fanboy drama queen get emotional over Apple. Apple isn't paying you anything.

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Alekko
By Alekko (Oct 22, 2011)

It seems that you are iFun-boy, aren't you, lol?! Samsung is ahead of this game, with 20 mill Smart Phones sold just this year :). I wonder why...

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doak
By doak (Oct 24, 2011)

So funny how people bicker over iOS/android who's on first nonsense when Palm and others were clearly in the smartphone market first.

@abolit: does iphone 4s include face recognition unlock (which sounds awesome!)? true multitasking? And how bout the new ios feature of making the sandbox memory temporary so offline content may not be available when you want it most... genius.

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Radovan
By Radovan (Oct 24, 2011)

Samsung never contributed anything to the world. It acquired bunch of patents through outsourcing deals ... from microwaves to telecom technology. Technologies based on research at western universities. Now Samsung is throwing it's weight around Biotech industry ... next thing you know fandroids will be saying how Samsung invented cure for cancer. And lets not forget how does Samsung treat their suppliers in Korea. I still wonder why does google keep partnering with Samsung?

Frankly if this was a Motorola-Google phone I'd seriously consider it.

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Radovan
By Radovan (Oct 24, 2011)

Oh and let me remind you how Samsung put iPhone icons on Android phone. Blasphemy I tell ya.

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Radovan
By Radovan (Oct 24, 2011)

@Doak ... Face recognition is already in Cydia store. The problem is that any face recognition can be easily fooled by a photo. It isn't a retina scan. And guess what, sandboxing has it's purpose.

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doak
By doak (Oct 25, 2011)

@Radovan, i was responding to abolit's assertion that there were no original features on the Nexus.

Cydia, does that mean your iphone has to be jailbroken? And then the user has to load a 3rd party app for a feature that will be stock on the Nexus, no root required?

So the stranger that has my phone is going to have a picture of me?

Sandboxing has a purpose: to vector users to apple cloud services and pay. If i don't have a data connection and want to read some offline content and it isn't there i'll be bummed.

And what about multitasking? Also the nexus has a barometric pressure sensor. Does iphone?

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doak
By doak (Nov 2, 2011)

Regarding sandboxing and iOS5 cleanup... It can be hazardous to your data: http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=busav&id=news/bav/2011/10/31/07.xml&headline=iPad%20Upgrade%20Causing%20Data%20To%20Disappear

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Bob from Plymouth
By Bob from Plymouth (Oct 21, 2011)

Not to cover camera phones on DP Review would be the journalistic equvalent of sticking your fingers in your ears, closing your eyes and going "la la la".

They are here, now and they are getting better. The 8MP camera on my iPhone 4S is a surprisingly good camera and always likely to be in my pocket, unlike my SLR.

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Fletch50mm
By Fletch50mm (Oct 21, 2011)

Actually I'm far more interestied in the phones on cameras than the majority of digital cameras. i suspect there are few DPR followers that are in the market for non-prosumer point and click wheras I'd guess virtually everyone has a mobile.

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wutsurstyle
By wutsurstyle (Oct 20, 2011)

If dpr insists on these articles of smartphones with "cameras" then we might as well feature video cams that take hd stills, binoculars that take photos, spy pens, trophy cam trail cameras, and everything else out there with a photo lens.

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garitd
By garitd (Oct 20, 2011)

Seriously? The vast majority of photos taken now are from cell phones. Dont you think you are being a little obtuse?

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dgmessenger
By dgmessenger (Oct 21, 2011)

Cameras on these high-end phones are better/compete with many of the early digital cameras reviewed on this sight. So, I say good for dpr for including this category. At some point, you will not have standalone point&shoots, as they will be replaced by superior/comparable phone cameras.

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wutsurstyle
By wutsurstyle (Oct 21, 2011)

Point taken, but I beg to differ. While I can easily accept that smartphones are the dominating the population of candid/street photos out there, it is in my opinion that it is not yet ready for this caliber of a review site. Please tell me, if I am a little obtuse, what could you review from this camera on this phone? Perhaps then, if we were to proceed with trends, should we start including all the apps that make smartphone photos possible? Should we include every smartphone coming out with a camera from here on out? While I wholeheartedly appreciate the advancement of smartphones and its photo capabilities, here on this review site, I can only see it as an announcement. But I guess who am I to go against the tides of technology. If you guys believe its ready for prime time, then so be it.

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Cariboo
By Cariboo (Oct 21, 2011)

As a 25+ yr Pro photographer, I use my Android HTC DHD phone camera A LOT, so I appreciate the reviews by DPR, as cell phone review sites don't look at these devices from a photographer's viewpoint. I only wish that my cell phone camera had more manual controls & better image processing apps without the gimmicky effects. I am going to look into app design for pro photographer functions. All of these devices are tools that help me as a pro do my job(s).

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arboreus
By arboreus (Oct 20, 2011)

A few pictures speak more than a thousand words.

http://www.engadget.com/photos/samsung-galaxy-nexus-sample-camera-shots/

http://www.engadget.com/photos/camera-showdown-iphone-4s-sample-images/

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fotoph
By fotoph (Oct 20, 2011)

Those are worst photos I've ever seen. Can that guy be any more jittery? Awful comparison to the iphone photos, which look amazing.

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dgmessenger
By dgmessenger (Oct 21, 2011)

I think it's quite intentional by Engadget!

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s.seng
By s.seng (Oct 20, 2011)

Iphone is made in China. its picture iq is very poor. Last week I was out with my friend who has iphone and me with ss2 took photos in the golf course. When I emailed him my photos he siad these were 100 times better than his iphone photos.
Most people buy i[phone just for the name. SS2 is much better all round. I am looking forwared to new offering from Samsung

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jezsik
By jezsik (Oct 20, 2011)

If the Android operating system enables this type of hardware control, will we see low-end and consumer level manufacturers adopt it for their point-and-shoot cameras? Doing so might well give their more expensive competitors a run for their money. I'd love to have a camera that could easily broadcast images (as opposed to a phone that can take photos).

Interesting times ahead ... I hope!

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Brad99
By Brad99 (Oct 20, 2011)

I do want to hear about camera phone latest developments etc on DPR, but they'll never have any zoom lenses will they? So I still need 3 cameras - phone, DSLR, zoom P&S. The phone camera will always be with me so it has its place in my world, it's just so handy for showing things to friends/family.

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hiro_pro
By hiro_pro (Oct 20, 2011)

why cover smartphone cameras?

1. my new iPhone 4S takes a better picture than my first digital camera. hands down even at high ISO. plus i can now edit, send or post it online without having to go back to my computer.

2. smartphone makes are going to add features that push regular camera makes. how long before we see cameras with better screens, more features or the ability to post images with wifi or even cell service?

3. most important, if you think photography is art then consider our future artists. these are the kids with smartphones. if this website is going to cover the art of photography then it needs to cover the tools actually being used and not the tools we think should be used.

4. the camera you have with you will always take a better pic than the camera you left at home. sorry, but my d7000 just looks too lumpy in my back pocket and ruins the lines of my pants ;)

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kpadude
By kpadude (Oct 20, 2011)

nice, but what's the price (c)

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Snaaks
By Snaaks (Oct 20, 2011)

Getting tired of all the meta-comments whether phones announcements should be in dppreview or not.
clearly smartphone-cameras and P&S cameras are converging so smartphone-news is also camera-news.

Adapt !, the world's changing.

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edu T
By edu T (Oct 20, 2011)

Clearly some people from the "other side" also see this convergence; check this, "Nokia N8 vs. Samsung Pixon12 vs. Sony HX5v shootout: Blind test" -- http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n8_vs_samsung_pixon12_vs_sony_dsc_hx5v-review-519.php

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larrytusaz
By larrytusaz (Oct 20, 2011)

Why shouldn't we complain? It's a change I have no interest in adapting to. DPreview is supposed to be a site for enthusiasts, not soccer moms/dads. Let them go to their own site. If they want to use a smartphone or whatever, fine, but that's not me & I'm only interested in what {I} like and other enthusiasts like. I have no interest in what the soccer moms-dads like.

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Raval Online
By Raval Online (Oct 20, 2011)

I take a P&S with me everywhere I go and if I get great photos from a Phone then great, one less item in my pocket. I welcome the reviews on this site.

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locke_fc
By locke_fc (Oct 21, 2011)

I don't see what smartphone photography has to do with soccer moms-dads. Many pros like Chase Jarvis, Jim Goldstein, Zack Arias, and others have been at it for years. Didn't you get the memo? Being an enthusiast should not stop you from waking up and smelling the coffee!

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nemo6666
By nemo6666 (Oct 20, 2011)

Will it Blend?

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Mikael in DK
By Mikael in DK (Oct 25, 2011)

lol.

You made my day :)

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Debankur Mukherjee
By Debankur Mukherjee (Oct 20, 2011)

No I dont want to see the Nexus getting reviewed here, but maybe in future if Mobile Phone Cameras completly replace the P&S Cameras.

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larrytusaz
By larrytusaz (Oct 20, 2011)

On one hand I'm relieved that at least the Apple bias is gone, if they're going to cover the iPhone 4S it's only fair they cover this, so fine there. But again, even if smartphone cameras are becoming the new point & shoot, I still don't agree with DPreview making a big deal of smartphone cameras. Yes a smartphone is always with you, but certainly something like a Nikon J1 or Olympus "Pen Mini" is hardly humongous, and far superior. (And with an Eye-Fi memory card, you can still publish "live on the scene.")

As others have also said, I prefer DPreview stick with REAL cameras & focus on issues & equipment of interest to enthusiasts, not soccer moms/dads who wouldn't know an f-stop from a box of baby wipes & who consider something as simple as resizing a photo for the web a "job for computer nerds." They have CNet and Kodak sites to go to if they wish.

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wmac
By wmac (Oct 20, 2011)

I wish we could keep mobile phones out of the perhaps most professional photography websites.

If you must!, please limit it to camera of the phone at least.

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Astro8
By Astro8 (Oct 20, 2011)

Agreed

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pacogwapo
By pacogwapo (Oct 20, 2011)

I guess since dpreview is owned by amazon.com and they sell also smartphones...

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Klay
By Klay (Oct 20, 2011)

Seems to me lie the phones that appear on here do so because of their camera specs. I it has an interesting and competent camera, why not cover it, even if it is just a press release?

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Fletch50mm
By Fletch50mm (Oct 20, 2011)

Another Android/Samsung post. More free advertising huh!!!

Why don't you ever cover that Apple thingy.

Clearly DPR are lining there pockets with google kickbacks.

;)

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BGhouse
By BGhouse (Oct 20, 2011)

Yes, yes, but my most important question has not been answered. Does Android 4.0, with USB hosting, mean that I can plug my camera into my Droid and xfer images between them? I really, really want to be able to xfer images from my X100 to my droid, and upload them to an online server.

Are we there yet?

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Boissez
By Boissez (Oct 20, 2011)

I haven't tried it myself but I'd figure you could setup your Android phone to be a WiFi hotspot and then use an Eye-Fi card to transfer wirelessly.

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Jekabs
By Jekabs (Oct 20, 2011)

Some smartphones already have USB host functionality. I am using Samsung Galaxy S2 with or without card reader to back up cards "in the field". Or to transfer from camera to external USB hard drive.

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ianz28
By ianz28 (Oct 20, 2011)

For all those who were whining about DPReview covering the iphone press release you got your wish.

Now we'll see a whole lot more phone announcements.

Venture a guess how many comments this news post will receive vs. the iphone? My bet is around 25%.

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RonHendriks
By RonHendriks (Oct 19, 2011)

That looks like a nice screen. Canon should put it on 1Dx.

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BogdanSandulescu
By BogdanSandulescu (Oct 20, 2011)

Agree. And how about PC monitors with this tehnology? :)

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Ruy Penalva
By Ruy Penalva (Oct 19, 2011)

Googalaxy without a iPhone Nexus

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Sosua
By Sosua (Oct 19, 2011)

Shivers, iphone 4S killer already... 720p 4.65" screen. Very nice. Wonder how much it will be...

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Kazzaz
By Kazzaz (Oct 19, 2011)

i still don't understand why would we photographers care for phone announcements ?

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Fog Maker
By Fog Maker (Oct 19, 2011)

AlanG

Because Apple is a US company,
looking to dominate the market

(globally as well as domestically)

Simple as that.

(Blackberry is Canadian, HTC Chinese, Samsung South Korean etc)

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Radovan
By Radovan (Oct 24, 2011)

Considering Samsung's history of bullying suppliers (domestic and foreign) and opportunistic technology acquisitions (read "theft") not just in telecom and no respect for IP of design ... To me it is the ultimate in corporate scum.

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jj74e
By jj74e (Oct 19, 2011)

leave it to tech companies to figure out no shutter lag in thin phones before camera companies do in thick point and shoots that are made for photography. the photographer's new best friend, smart phones (as far as innovation and real progress goes)

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Josh152
By Josh152 (Oct 22, 2011)

It's not that they haven't figured it out, it's that they want you to buy a more expensive camera.

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AlanG
By AlanG (Oct 19, 2011)

At least this is a camera forum and this devie has a camera in it. I think DPReview running this report is interesting as counterbalance after all of the worldwide press that the iPhone 4S received on major news outlets.

Why do ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, etc. always report so extensively about the release of a new Apple cell phone? (Or a lost prototype for that matter.) Are they in co-hoots with Apple?

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Astro8
By Astro8 (Oct 20, 2011)

Maybe because Apple is the largest company in the world? Just saying

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AlanG
By AlanG (Oct 21, 2011)

Yes it must be earth shattering news about every new Apple cell phone that justifies such coverage. I think Apple is #2 in market cap. Does that make them the largest company in the world? Other companies have more sales, profits and employees. E.g. Microsoft has higher sales, higher income, and more employees than Apple.

I do think it is reasonable for DPReview to review the cameras in cell phones now that they have become better quality, more feature rich, and more useful. The phone in the HTC Amaze has some features that I was not aware of until after I bought it and started exploring it. Other sites that review cell phones don't really review the cameras in any kind of depth. Whereas this would be easy and logical for DPReview to do.

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Astro8
By Astro8 (Oct 22, 2011)

Wrong! To be honest with you, it doesn't feel right to argue Apple vs Microsoft in a photography site.
AAPL vs MSFT:
More profit and more revenue. However, less number of employees. Which is a good thing as it's more $$/employee

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AlanG
By AlanG (Oct 22, 2011)

I'm not arguing Apple vs. Microsoft. There are other companies that are more profitable than AAPL or have higher sales figures or more employees. Thus are "larger."

But specific to those two companies, AAPL sells a lot of hardware and subcontracts manufacturing of most if not all of those products overseas so it doesn't need as many employees as a company that primarily does software. AAPL had about $65B in sales last year and made about $14B in profit. MSFT had about $70B in sales last year and about $23B in profit. So MSFT is the more efficient company. FYI I own AAPL stock and no MSFT stock.

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AlanG
By AlanG (Oct 19, 2011)

While we can't expect a camera phone to replace a good camera, they have been improving and can be quite useful at times. I just got an HTC Amaze and it has no shutter lag and 8 meg sensor, 1080p, various convenience functions and scenes as well as somewhat "manual" control. It has dedicated buttons to turn on and shoot the stills and video.

A friend of mine and I were playing with it yesterday and after looking at the images on my computer he said, "Those look better than images from the $25,000 Kodak DCS 460 that I used to use."

So while not as versatile as a DSLR, and the results can be noisy at 50-100%, I bet I could shoot some of my commercial assignments that are intended only for web use, and nobody would question the image quality.

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Scott Greiff
By Scott Greiff (Oct 19, 2011)

Wow. Paid placement?

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febphoto
By febphoto (Oct 19, 2011)

@Dannyboy292: taking 'perfect' pictures with an SLR is so last century, nowadays you do it with your phone or entertainment device like an Android phone or an iPhone. The thing is to take pictures of events you attend or witness and share a photograph with your 'friends', real or virtual. Their hobby is not 'taking pictures', but something else, dancing, partying, whatever. The new phone, that also can film, take pictures and communicate via internet, are there to aid people in doing this.
You are right, the quality of the pictures is hopeless, but getting better. If you want total control over the process, you need an dedicated camera, not something that doubles as a phone, although when you're in creative photography....

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Dannyboy292
By Dannyboy292 (Oct 19, 2011)

People that use phones as cameras are funny, the photos are almost always pixelated, blurry,noisy ,unprocessable, uncropable ect...do your self a favor and at least use a good little point and shoot, at least you can crop and mabey even print a photo to hang up on you wall.

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Gociu
By Gociu (Oct 19, 2011)

Or you can learn to take photos. Look at Chase Jarvis iPhone 3G gallery

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Marcel Mutter
By Marcel Mutter (Oct 19, 2011)

I was in Madrid (Spain) without my SLR but with my Galaxy S2 and made great pictures that challenges my SLR. You need a lot of light and I mean a lot of. Under low light the very small sensor is too noisy.

I am very pleased with the result and did not miss my SLR one second.

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littleroot
By littleroot (Oct 19, 2011)

Dannyboy292: Use an iphone 4 for a couple months and you will understand

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Dannyboy292
By Dannyboy292 (Oct 19, 2011)

I have an iPhone and I find the photo quality awful at best compared to even a point and shoot camera which I might add you can put. Wifi card and and also upload your better than phone photos to say facebook..oooh and for the person that said he got better photos from his phone where is dslr would struggle to get the photo, I think you just cant use your dslr...and dslr is 100 time more capable of taking any photo than a camera phone

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nemo6666
By nemo6666 (Oct 20, 2011)

@Dannyboy...u sure that what u use is an iPhone? and not a cheap Chinese copy?
Seriously, get a life...or better...get a REAL iPhone ;P

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Dannyboy292
By Dannyboy292 (Oct 20, 2011)

Yes I have the new iPhone and the photo quality is no wear her the quality of a real camera, so stfu, and learn to use a camera.

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Der Steppenwolf
By Der Steppenwolf (Oct 19, 2011)

And here we go again. As before with Iphones, let me ask you DPR again.
WTF does this "news" have to do with photography?

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Drew Conway
By Drew Conway (Oct 19, 2011)

In terms of types of cameras, the iPhone has the most photos uploaded to flickr. People are using smartphones as their primary snapshot, on-the-go, in-the-hand camera.

This has some relevancy to photography because eventually all the gajillion point & shoot compact cameras won't find a place on the market.

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CAClark
By CAClark (Oct 19, 2011)

Don't read it then, and quite your whining. Geez.

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Klay
By Klay (Oct 19, 2011)

Drew has it right... the cameras in these phones are displacing pint and shoot camera.

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jj74e
By jj74e (Oct 19, 2011)

just because they're not replacing point and shoots doesn't mean they don't have a place in photography. smartphones are becoming viable, high quality point and shoots for a lot of situations for a lot of people. thus, it appears on DPR news page. at least it brings a bit of tech and innovation to the rather sluggish and stagnant camera industry.

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WalterPaisley
By WalterPaisley (Oct 19, 2011)

Steppenwolf is right. This isn't even news from or by DPR, it's a bloody press release by Samsung. :(

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pacogwapo
By pacogwapo (Oct 20, 2011)

maybe in the near future smartphones will take over pro cameras:)

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reginalddwight
By reginalddwight (Oct 19, 2011)

This latest post of the Galaxy Nexus in the news section is likely to appease people who criticized DPR when it posted news of the iPhone 4S a couple of weeks ago.

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ElJefe
By ElJefe (Oct 19, 2011)

Some people find this stuff annoying because we get this info from everywhere else, and having 50 sources proclaiming things at the same time gets annoying.

But if they're going to post this crap, they need to post all this crap. Just when the new iPhone comes out is silly. Most of us don't use them, and you don't buy a phone for the camera... or do you? Maybe DPreview should do serious phone camera comparison tests ;)

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migus
By migus (Oct 19, 2011)

Why no details on the sensor and lens design? Samsung has some good lenses and decent sensors in their NX and EX lines... why not use that knowhow here? (since Apple can't brag about their P&S and CSC systems yet...)

5Mp: good news, no racing up the Mpix ladder. Similar to Canon's 1DX, a reasonable Mpix target for the intended use: best screens today are 2-4Mpix, and 5 clean Mpix could print beyond letter format.
The 5Mp also educates the market asking "Why not 12-20Mpix?"... Eventually they'd learn about noise, DR, ISO.

1280x720: Highest res of any phone; competes in dpi w/ the Retina Display, and beats it (AMOLED vs. IPS) on blacks and power.

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Chaitanya S
By Chaitanya S (Oct 19, 2011)

very unusual move by dpreview, never thought they would cover phone release on the site. Also if anyone wants to know this phone will be available at a cost of around 800US$.

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Der Steppenwolf
By Der Steppenwolf (Oct 19, 2011)

No we dont want to know. And if we did, we would probably go to anyone of bazilion phonetech/android sites out there that actually have A LOT more info and knowledge about phones then DPR.

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capanikon
By capanikon (Oct 19, 2011)

A 1970s Pentax K1000 had 0 shutter lag, too.

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Prognathous
By Prognathous (Oct 19, 2011)

No it didn't. The mirror takes time to lift.

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Pedagydusz
By Pedagydusz (Oct 19, 2011)

I had a K1000. Never could make a single phone call with it :)

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John007
By John007 (Oct 19, 2011)

"...like the Nexus S, the Galaxy Nexus doesn't come with SD card support..."

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doak
By doak (Oct 24, 2011)

That is a bummer. I use micro sd in my cameras so that I can plug it into my Galaxy S to do minor edits and upload while traveling. Don't even have to power down the phone to load the card.

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slncezgsi
By slncezgsi (Oct 19, 2011)

Message to DPreview - guys, as the phone cameras have improved quite a lot - would you consider to make some kind of short reviews that could address the ability of the phones to take photos (not full phone reviews of course). And maybe even taking the your studio shots? Would be really interesting.

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Scott Everett
By Scott Everett (Oct 19, 2011)

We have a bunch of the top phones in our studio right now actually, and are doing some testing. Stay tuned, we'll be publishing some results soon. :)

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Dave Lively
By Dave Lively (Oct 19, 2011)

I am glad to hear that. My contract is going to expire in a couple of months and camera quality is going to be a large factor in deciding if an upgrade is worthwhile and if it is what phone I will select. A phone will not replace my compact or SLR but it is often the only camera I have.

I would suggest those of you not interested in knowing the capabilities of cameras in phones take the same approach I do for any piece of gear over $2000. Skip reading the review. Just because you are not interested does not mean you speak for everybody else.

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IeraseU
By IeraseU (Oct 19, 2011)

I think the larger screen is a great feature. It's almost like a 'mini-tablet'. However, I do feel that the 5MP camera will be a little bit behind the times when compared to the competition, in particular the iPhone 4S.

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bdery
By bdery (Oct 19, 2011)

With sensors this small, a lower pixel count is a good thing.

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costinul_ala
By costinul_ala (Oct 19, 2011)

also the 8-12 MP phones' effective resolution is questionable because of the optics used - I think

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Alexramos
By Alexramos (Oct 19, 2011)

I agree, the 8MPx sensor on Galaxy S2 is excellent I got excellent pictures with it and I use every day to support diagnostic through microscope, and first time I really want a higher MPx sensor (10 or 12). I think Samsung could use one of them on the next Galaxy S3

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Andrei Todea
By Andrei Todea (Oct 19, 2011)

This phone doesn't compete with the iPhone 4S (I would get it instead of an iPhone but actually this is a much cheaper model). It is mentioned here because it's the first phone to get the new Android 4 (which I believe will kill the iPhone).

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doak
By doak (Oct 24, 2011)

How did you come to that conclusion?

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closin99
By closin99 (Oct 19, 2011)

Canon should stick a phone module in the S 95 or S100

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rvalle
By rvalle (Oct 19, 2011)

You know what? Just stick a phone module on a Fuji X10, get it running Android, and I'll be happy.

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jkrumm
By jkrumm (Oct 19, 2011)

It's true, the first camera maker to produce a true "smart camera" will likely sell a lot of them if the price is right. I predict Samsung will be the first. It wouldn't need phone capability, but wireless and touchscreen with apps, combined with decent lens and a shutter button that doesn't make you jiggle the camera when you take a shot... The iCamera.

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Prognathous
By Prognathous (Oct 19, 2011)

The X10 form factor is great for taking pictures, but it's far from ideal for a phone, let alone how goofy one would look holding such a camera to his or her face. A simple BT headphone could solve this nicely.

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costinul_ala
By costinul_ala (Oct 19, 2011)

about goofy looks - how funny are the people taking pictures with tablets !? :))

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ovrebekk
By ovrebekk (Oct 20, 2011)

Oh, I like your thinking. I would LOVE a DSLR based on Android :D

Annoyed that your expensive DSLR can't do -2 / +2 bracketing, or that the max shutterspeed without expensive remotes is 30 seconds?
Download an app that fixes it :)

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rvalle
By rvalle (Oct 19, 2011)

The Nokia N8 was the very first (and only) camera-phone to have decent IQ, because of the large sensor (for a compact).
I would really like to see more large sensor phones.... I can live with a thick shell, or a big protruding bulge for the lens, as long as it gives me the ability to leave my S95 at home.
Don't need zoom, really, just a fixed 35mm equivalent, make it f/1.4, and I'm good to go.

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KEG
By KEG (Oct 19, 2011)

Not the only, HTC Sensation has pretty decent IQ.

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Andrei Todea
By Andrei Todea (Oct 19, 2011)

What does "digitally stabilized zoom" mean?
Digital zoom + Digital (higher ISO vs shutter speed) stabilization :)

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rvalle
By rvalle (Oct 19, 2011)

This post should include the sensor size, lens FL and aperture, and if you can do manual stuff (exposure compensation, noise reduction level, shoot raw, etc).
None of that is mentioned, so this "news" is rather pointless for photogs.

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grafli
By grafli (Oct 19, 2011)

Haha, shoot RAW, with a phone. That's a good one!

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mpgxsvcd
By mpgxsvcd (Oct 19, 2011)

I couldn't care less if it is 5 mp or 50 mp. What aperture does it have and is the "zoom" optical or digital.

Apple is so good at advertising their products. You never have to ask "so what is great about this new phone because they blast it out to everyone". Samsung and Google give you little hints about what it might have but it really just confuses the customer in the end.

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ovrebekk
By ovrebekk (Oct 20, 2011)

Well, Apple blast out whatever they think is great about it.

The "problem" with the ICS release is that they have improved upon a million different smaller things, and which of them are the most important for you depends entirely on what you use it for.

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GeorgeZ
By GeorgeZ (Oct 19, 2011)

Wow, since when does dpr report on cell phones?
Especially the new super-high-end GN is a little disappointment camera-wise: only 5MP and no camera button. I know, 12MP isn't necessary (even if Nokia showed with the N8 it can be done well) but 5 is not a lot today. And the Galaxs S II has a very good 8MP sensor. And no real flash either....
So photography-wise I'm not so thrilled, all the rest is tops, but should not be relevant on this page.

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seta666
By seta666 (Oct 19, 2011)

Maybe it includes Camera Raw and Photoshop CS5 or maybe they are getting paid to anounce it. Who knows.....

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SoonerFanSF
By SoonerFanSF (Oct 19, 2011)

5MP is more than enough. In fact 1.3MP is more than enough to share images on Facebook and even print 4x6. If I was going to make a poster, I wouldn't be using my phone in the first place since I have a real camera for that kind of work. If cameraphones with new BSI sensors were only 1.3MP, they'd have ISO performance on par with DSLRs and that would be awesome for image quality!

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (Oct 19, 2011)

Nobody pays to be in the news section - it's not for sale.

All stories are there because we believe they'll be of interest to our readers. Given the popularity of mobile photography, the launch of a new version of Android with enhanced photographic features is news.

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Andrei Todea
By Andrei Todea (Oct 19, 2011)

@GeorgeZ, @seta666
Actually it is about photography. Maybe it's sad, maybe people should respect this art more but that's the way it is.
This may sound unbelievable but the number 1 camera on Flickr, in front of Nikon D90 and Canon EOS 5D Mark II is a camera phone (sadly not a very good one, Apple iPhone 4). People are using phones to take (and share) pictures more than real cameras. I think this is a bad thing but it's a fact.
BTW, if somebody is paying them it's surely Apple and they announce this just to hide that. But it may not be like that.

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mrJamieSmith
By mrJamieSmith (Oct 19, 2011)

Anybody ever hear the phrase "the best camera is the one you have on you"?
The IQ from this camera isn't the best there is but its good for social media, but the big deal is that it takes shots near instantly so you never miss anything. The time it took to load up a cell phone camera app and take a picture was a huge barrier to me using it.

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Octane
By Octane (Oct 19, 2011)

@R Buttler "the news section is not for sale"? Oh really. Maybe not officially, but you can go back and count on how many times NIK software got featured in your news section, and then count how many times other software companies that offer plug in filters have made it in the news section here in the same amount of time.

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Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (Oct 19, 2011)

Some software developers are proactive in sending out information, others aren't. We don't have the resources to go hunting down new releases of small plug-ins every day, so we feature those that send us press releases. I can categorically state that we do not nor would we ever, accept payment of any kind in return for running a news story.

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backayonder
By backayonder (Oct 20, 2011)

Read an article on line today in Professional Photography magazine about a wedding photographer that shot a wedding using an iPhone! I put a link up on Flickr Wedding photography group regarding the story. So it's coming the demise of DSLR. No no I'm joking.

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nemo6666
By nemo6666 (Oct 20, 2011)

Camera on Galaxy S2 is buggy with the red/magenta spot in middle of each image with white scene. And not to forget the heat issue around the camera on back....you could scream...
And by far not so impressive as stated.

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Radovan
By Radovan (Dec 19, 2011)

Feel free to send me lots of hate mail ... but I want to see smartphone camera coverage on DPReview ... I got into photography because of my iPhone ... so whatever phone I'll be using in the future, it has to have a kick-ass camera !!!

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