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Nikon V1 and J1 - hands-on first impressions

By dpreview staff on Sep 21, 2011 at 20:12 GMT

We've had a little more time with the Nikon J1 and V1, and have prepared a first impressions article about the Nikon 1 system. We also spoke to Masahiro Suzuki, General Manager, R&D Department at Nikon's development HQ, to better understand the company's reasoning. The article includes an explanation of their high-speed shooting modes and addresses why the mode dial doesn't say P,A,S or M.

Masahiro Suzuki, General Manager, R&D Department, Nikon Development HQ

Click here to read our first impressions of the Nikon V1 and J1

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Humboldt Jim
By Humboldt Jim (Oct 17, 2011)

Interesting that Nikon refers to users of the V1 and J1 as "consumers" and not photographers. Rather off putting.

HJ

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Sad Joe
By Sad Joe (Oct 8, 2011)

Attended a Calumet Open Day at Calumet Birmingham England this week - got my DSLR sensor cleaned for free - always nice. Nikon had a stand and two reps loads of kit but no sign of the V1 or J1 which was a shame. Their reps seemed very confident when discussing these new products and had both handled early versions, they stressed that they weren't aimed at me (or I suspect most DP readers) and did not even seem to think a price point of £800 - £900 would be a problem for a life style camera. Gotta give it to them for their professional attitude but frankly I think after the 1st batch have sold out Nikon are going to get a nasty shock !

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gmol
By gmol (Sep 29, 2011)

You can bag yourself a G3 with the new X pancake zoom for $700. C'mon, that is a 100 times better combo for less money than the new Nikon1, despite the fancy color options.

And one more idea: I don't see why so many people here are always putting the Sony NEX on a pedestal. Just compare the size of the Sony combo with a kit lens to a GF3 (or even the slightly bulkier G3) with the new X lens:
http://www.photographyblog.com/news/panasonic_14-42mm_x_lens_hands-on_photos/

Cheers!
Gary

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Franka T.L.
By Franka T.L. (Sep 28, 2011)

So they start the R&D before M4/3 come to be and aimed for the up market crowd from DC. Now that can explain this odd form factor. Its a Grown up Coolpix. Not a compact down sized DSLR and well ... :)

Whatever their logic, and good intention that might be. It seems well they had it too late too little this time though. I think its that mentality about not eating into the DSLR business that's going to hurt the brand in the end.

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lucavascon
By lucavascon (Sep 28, 2011)

Well, I do not know what kind of torture they applied to their designers . It had to be bad. Or they got the same ones from Leica, just out of 80 years of frustration, where the world ERGONOMICS is censored in all its forms. I'm impressed that with my face splatted on to the camera to reach the EVF I could control the camara buttons with my nose or with tongue.
All that with a body that is twice a PentaxQ and significantly bigger than a Nex7.
Nikon aims to a target that is miles away from me, and prefers that are others to cannibalize their own dslr market. That said, I cannot see anything appealing on the paper about these "1" cameras. Maybe when in hand I will discover some good reason to own one.

What it COULD be, is if they can handle and deliver good results with old C and CS mount Arri, Angenieux, Bolex Paillard, Kern super8 and 16mm cine lenses!!! So, if they will, they could give plenty of satisfaction to an entire class of possible users.
;-)

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Marty CL
By Marty CL (Sep 27, 2011)

I think we should wait until full scale testing and review of these cameras is completed before completely condemning them. I don't think Nikon's intention was to use their new mirrorless line to supplant their DSLRs, although many of us were dreaming of a digital Nikon S.

But I think for many of the reasons that SLRs made obsolete such rangefinders in the 1950's and 1960's---there's the contemporary issue of DSLR optical viewfinders versus the electronic view finder. Even with the current state of technology, such electronic viewfinders are poor performers in direct sunlight and for action photography.

So in view of this, would Nikon canabilize their DSLR market (or at least the lower range of this market) with a large body, large sensor, interchangeable lens mirrorless camera?

That might have been aesthetically pleasing, but impractical.

With all of that said, I think one thing that the critics have gotten right is the price--which is about $300 too expensive.

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justmeMN
By justmeMN (Sep 26, 2011)

In the full review, the lack of Automatic Exposure Bracketing should be a Conclusion - Con. The Nikon D3100 DSLR has the same failing.

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Angelfire
By Angelfire (Sep 26, 2011)

Superb products from Nikon. If the actual real life reviews are as good as I expect them to be, I will be getting the V1 plus the 10mm pancake for every day shots, the 10-100mm designed for video lens and the new mini strobe. When it becomes available I will also be getting the converter attachment so that I can use my 70-200 VRII plus teleconverter for a fast and inexpensive solution to wildlife and sports photography (equivalent to 1080mm).

The V1 will be outstanding for photographing my great nieces and nephews who never stand still and for macros of insects. I can just see now the photograph of a bee or a butterfly taking off from a flower captured with ease using the V1's AF capabilities and motion snapshot stills. Brilliant design from Nikon if it is as good as Nikon's publicity suggests and I love the plain design even though I will have to use a sub menu to access Aperture priority etc.

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ThomasX
By ThomasX (Sep 26, 2011)

Sounds a little like copy & paste from a Nikon marketing release, but well, I respect your opinion. Congrats Nikon, you found your first potential customer who even likes the design!

Here is one of the first image quality comparisions:

http://www.eoshd.com/content/4216/nikon-j1-and-v1-image-quality

Unfortunately, worse than enthusiast compacts and others....even the term "catastrophe" is being used (relating IQ to pricing).

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Josh152
By Josh152 (Sep 26, 2011)

The real issue is the price. The only people who would be willing to spend that kind of money a V1 are the same people who will know that less expensive cameras from other manufactures have better IQ. The only thing these cameras have going for them is the AF. I doubt it will be enough. Now if they had put this sensor in a slim fixed lens compact, like around the size of an S95, and charged $500 it would have been seen as revolutionary.

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ThomasX
By ThomasX (Sep 26, 2011)

At this price level, it's IQ should be better than the G12 and on par with some MfTs. Apparently it isn't.
So what is left? Speed: is good according to Nikon. Build: let's give it some advance credit, probably good. Usability: upgraders, donwn- or sidegraders will miss the controls. Design: nope. Accessories/lenses: behind competition. Size/pocketability: not better than MfT.
Not enough to be a compelling offering.

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tilariths
By tilariths (Sep 27, 2011)

Hook, line, and sinker. Sucker is born every minute.

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Sad Joe
By Sad Joe (Oct 8, 2011)

Well, I think you've hit the nail on the head - the V1 & J1 are for part time shooters who don't want to learn the 'art', they just want take pictures. Nothing wrong with that. I use a Canon s90 which is fab for snaps. I recommend you try out the new S100 before spending so much on these new Nikon's. I do see two problems for Nikon - 1st the price (how much ? ! ?) 2nd the competative nature of the market place. IF Canon & Fuji both go APS-C it going to make the performance of the TINY sensor on the V1 & J1 seem even worst, the last thing Nikon needs is bad photo press coverage leaking into the life style magazine sectors. With phones getting better all the time the iPhoto 5 or next Samsung might be as good !

Sorry Nikon I wished you'd gone for 4:3 or even APS-C instead and I've been a Nikon owner since 1978. Still have an FM somewhere around here...

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jps721
By jps721 (Sep 26, 2011)

Now to see what gives with Canon. I've been hoping for something along the lines of stretched G12 with 4/3 sensor...and some decent lenses...heck, even a very good fixed zoom would do. If the link that T3 has is close, it sounds like Canon is going to make a strong effort, but it sounds like the price may be high. Nice set of lenses on that site though. Just hope they remember those of us who can't really pony up the bucks for a more expensive piece of gear... that's why I bought a G12 to begin with.

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rafaelneville
By rafaelneville (Sep 26, 2011)

More of the same friends,...
...more of the same.

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powernet
By powernet (Sep 26, 2011)

What can you expect from someone who wears a tie like that!

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rafaelneville
By rafaelneville (Sep 26, 2011)

Hahaha, so true man!

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fransams
By fransams (Sep 26, 2011)

I am very happy with this new Nikon-system because there is no reason to get rid of my Pana G1 and Oly E-PL1.

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tilariths
By tilariths (Sep 27, 2011)

E-P3 is a reason.

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CameraLabTester
By CameraLabTester (Sep 25, 2011)

Make the sensor smaller than the competition.

Make the price so high, the P&S crowd can't reach it.

It doesn't make sense.

3 upvotes
G Davidson
By G Davidson (Sep 25, 2011)

Lots of great features, some unique (ultra fast AF and continuous shooting), though poor controls for anyone wanting to do serious photography with them. They aren't for that? Then why is the V1 so expensive and coming with premium features like the EVF? Other models will come and it's not only Nikon trying to dumb things down to make their cameras less intimidating. But by making such a loud announcement and disappointing a large part of their user base, I think it's best they announce, or at least strongly hint, of something to make up for it.

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EduardoJB
By EduardoJB (Sep 25, 2011)

OK, I'm a Canon guy... No wait, I'm a Canon, Fuji, Panasonic and soon a Sony (and have owned a Ricoh and a Lumix-Leica, an iPhone and even the LEGO camera) guy. I haven't owned a Nikon and it is not my intention to talk badly about Nikon, but, seriously, what were they thinking? Maybe this camera would be a hit in some markets... I can't know. But I just can't see the point. Do Nikon think it will sell because of the candy colors? I don't know if Canon is planning in entering in the mirrorless camera market, or if they already have a prototype, but I would say that Nikon has made it easier for them now. There should be no excuses from a company like Nikon, although from time to time big companies have had their blunders (think Microsoft). These cameras makes one think that Nikon is in dire needs for engineers, designers and even... a vision. They've fallen in the trap of originality for originality's sake.

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T3
By T3 (Sep 25, 2011)

This is what's supposedly been leaked so far, regarding Canon's mirrorless system:

http://www.eoshd.com/content/346/exclusive-canon-eis-60-revealed-high-end-mirrorless-camera-with-pixel-fusion-technology

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rakita
By rakita (Sep 24, 2011)

I'm a Nikon user and I don't know much about scpecs of these cameras, but for sure they look very ugly. Looks like coloured ex USSR production.

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artistsurfer
By artistsurfer (Sep 24, 2011)

Built-in high rez viewfinder
Hi-rez still shots during video
60fps video...

Creative Directors are going to love this camera

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tkpenalty
By tkpenalty (Sep 26, 2011)

you can already export stills from images on premiere.

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ThomasX
By ThomasX (Sep 24, 2011)

Current compact camera users who want to upgrade: way to expensive, will go for enthusiast compacts.
Current enthusiast compact camera users: will miss the external controls, will go for EVIL or DSLR.
Current EVIL users: will not downgrade from larger sensor, more controls, better looks etc.
Current DSLR users: will potentially buy an Oly/Pana/Sony EVIL with it's larger sensors & controls while not even being bigger than the new Nikon thing!
Everybody: appalled by ugly design.

So where is this huge market that Nikon has found? Outback bushwackers? Toddlers? Carthusian monks?

Good luck.

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Josh152
By Josh152 (Sep 26, 2011)

I think Nikon is banking on the AF. The AF preformance is way better than any other compact/EVIL camera. The J1 may just be what parents who want photograph their children's sporting events but don't want to pay entry fee for a DSLR or find DSLRs too bulky/complicated are looking for. That said it is still a very small niche market in my opinion and the more enthusiast targeted $900 V1 Still makes no sense at all.

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CameraLabTester
By CameraLabTester (Sep 24, 2011)

The General Manager of the R&D Department has ONE MONTH to come up with a better design...

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arhmatic
By arhmatic (Sep 24, 2011)

Yes, it will be a total recall...

Forget this announcement was ever made.
Don't need a month to decide. I think we are all set.

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mark power
By mark power (Sep 24, 2011)

It may be a fine camera but boy the black Nikon is ugly. it looks like a clay model prototype. I thought Steve Jobs drilled home the lesson that how it looks indicates how it works. The I Mac may not be a great computer but it looks like it should be a great computer. My Lumix GH2 is no streamlined beauty but it looks like what it is, a thoroughly professional well designed machine that is like an extension of my eye.

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Calvin Chann
By Calvin Chann (Sep 24, 2011)

Will this guy still have a job in 6 months?

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petepictures
By petepictures (Sep 23, 2011)

What I was expecting from Nikon was at least A full frame if not larger, mirorless system with a range of fast F 1,4 lenses. with a 30MP sensor maybe and combining those pixels by 2 and 3 to create a 10 MP image with great low light capabilities.
I was expecting of the shutter to be able to sync with flash up to 1/4000 for great daylight flash portraits.
Pity I was disappointed.
Lately I am enjoying film photography anyway.

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cactusgeorge
By cactusgeorge (Sep 23, 2011)

Nothing like a bit of sarcasm to lighten the moment. We probably needed that.

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UhBre
By UhBre (Sep 25, 2011)

For under a 1000$ please ...

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arhmatic
By arhmatic (Sep 23, 2011)

Hey, do you want to see a photo if a guy who recently lost his job?

Scroll all the way to the top of this page.

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raylob
By raylob (Sep 23, 2011)

Even Sigma would not entertain him if he applied for a new job!

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cactusgeorge
By cactusgeorge (Sep 23, 2011)

His lips are pursed to keep from laughing.

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lichtloper
By lichtloper (Sep 23, 2011)

Not for me:
- quick changes from A to M, S or P are impossible if one has to dive into menus;
- three-by-four aspect ratio has become my favourite, V1 nor J1 offer it;
- lenses are slow, so narrow DOF is nearly impossible;
- lenshood for 10-30mm and 10mm lens should be supplied with these lenses.

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ChrisKramer1
By ChrisKramer1 (Sep 23, 2011)

It's worth pointing out that no-one seemed too upset about the Fuji X10 using a 2/3 sensor.

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ezradja
By ezradja (Sep 23, 2011)

because: 1. Fujifilm has already released the big one, X100
2. The body style and material still desirable
3. EXR sensor has proved to be quite good on smaller sensors (F series, X-10 has twice as big I presume with those F-series?)
4. has manual knob for everything you need. Not deep on the LCD menu.

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T3
By T3 (Sep 24, 2011)

The X10 looks a lot classier, is more compact, has external controls, has an optical viewfinder, has a standard hotshoe, comes with a faster f/2-2.8 lens, and should me no more expensive than the J1.

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todds
By todds (Sep 23, 2011)

The 140K pixel EVF is the show stopper for me. That thing is going to look horrible. The olympus m43s optional EVF has 10 times the resolution.

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todds
By todds (Sep 23, 2011)

I'm confused I just read another review that says 1,440,000 EVF resolution. What is the correct spec?

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zapatista
By zapatista (Sep 24, 2011)

1.4 milliion.

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Subi
By Subi (Sep 23, 2011)

IMO, this is a beginning of future camera.... mirrorless, interchangeable lense, hybrid AF (contrast detect AF & fast phase detect AF), electronic shutter, hi-res EVF, fast lenses, hi IQ, capable of recording full HD movie & capturing full resolution still image simultaneously, hi burst rate....

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astikhin
By astikhin (Sep 23, 2011)

It is have wrong names - not J1 and V1, it is 2B (too bad).

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Prime_Lens
By Prime_Lens (Sep 23, 2011)

Go back to the drawing board Nikon, before it is too late.
You can do better than this!

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rudymnv
By rudymnv (Sep 23, 2011)

v1 should have PASM on mode dial ( it's too deep in menus, and there is lot of unused space on dial) , 1080 60p video?

my concerns are also:
-price tag
-lenses are big and slow (in terms of f number)
-there is no magic out of small sensors ( high ISO looks good, but overall no IQ magic expected here)

on the good side:
technology to be implemented on future dslr or mirror-less models...

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cimman305
By cimman305 (Sep 23, 2011)

this is aimed at the masses. Just like the mp3 is aimed at the masses. Quality can take a back seat as the masses don't know quality when they see one. Functionality is king in the commercial masses world. So give them something low quality, interchangeable lenses (functionality ie. wide angle, long range zooms) and put in some branding to justify the high price, and you've got yourself a winner.
Price is not an issue these days, in the asia pacific market that is.
People in this forum thrash this because they are discerning folks who care about IQ. Not so the average Joe out there. DOF ? if folks are happy with camera phones, what's DOF to them ? they just need interchangeable lenses.

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chadley_chad
By chadley_chad (Sep 23, 2011)

I disagree - you are totally incorrect!

The 'masses' as you call them are not stupid; most people in todays economic climate are quite sensible ... sensible enough not to splash out £829 on a V1 thats for sure! Anyone who doesn't understand camera technology will go to Argos and buy a £129 P&S; but anyone with the slightest interest in taking photography more seriously WILL investigate whats out there (as we all have done in the past) and arrive at their own conclusion. People are not stupid enough to pay silly money for a product where other better products are available as they will find when they investigate the market.

To say price is not an issue or the 'average Joe' doesn't care about image quality is nonsense ... they do care, they just don't understand the difference between things like fast and slow lenses. Some will investigate further, some want, but most people want quality and value for money (the later this system certainly doesn't give!)

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Carlos C
By Carlos C (Sep 23, 2011)

I tend to agree with cimman. The masses will not look deep into what they buy, have had many friends looking for cameras and all they want is large mega pixels, small bodies and good picture quality. The IQ for them is all about, will it look good in Facebook. Again, this are the mazes. Of course not everyone is like this, but the masses are. I define the masses as the majority. The majority do not care or understand picture quality. Everything they look at is in the 4x6 or FB world. Same as what has happened to music. Remember when people where interested in Hi-Fi? The quality of an iPod music is far off what Hi-Fi is all about, but the masses do not care. Proven by the convenience they get with iPods. Just my three cents.

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T3
By T3 (Sep 24, 2011)

"Price is not an issue these days"? Really? In the crowded consumer camera market, with so many choice, price is definitely considered. Price will definitely dissuade many consumers (ie, the "masses") away from the CX system. Furthermore, if the "masses" don't really care about image quality, as you claim, then why would they want to spend so much more for the unpocketable CX system, when a P&S will do just fine for them? The reality is that this system has a very narrow market.

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Carlos C
By Carlos C (Sep 26, 2011)

T3,
I did not mentioned price at all, was only referring to IQ. I think we may have different definition for the "masses". If we talk price, the "masses" (the majority) will go with price since IQ is not really understood well be that group. I truth, most P&S are quite good with good light and with flash. The masses use their P&S mostly to shoot pictures outside and arm length self portraits with friends right next to them. These group I call the masses. I think those that want to spend more for the unpocketable CX systems are further broken down into two groups. Those that understand IQ and are willing to pay more for it, and those who like to have a fancier camera (more for status - this is very big in South East Asia - currently living in China) to impress friends. Just my thoughts. I am sure there is a wide variety of reasons.
Regards
Carlos

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chadley_chad
By chadley_chad (Sep 23, 2011)

Whatever might be good about this camera, it has a pathetic sized sensor and costs from £829 on pre-order from Warehouse Express.

Expect to see ZERO sold!!!!!!!!!!

Nuff said (other than Nikon obviously haven't heard about this thing called the recession and takes pro and newbie camera users alike for rich mugs!)

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Goodmeme
By Goodmeme (Sep 23, 2011)

I will never buy one of these unless it has a built-in flash and iTTL hotshoe and pancake lens package. If such a camera had launched right away, i.e. before Canon, I might have been tempted to jump ship to Nikon DSLRs as well, assuming Nikon flashes are as good as everyone says.

As it is, I'm not overly impressed and hope the Olympus EP3 comes down in price in the UK to USA prices at least.

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KennethKwok
By KennethKwok (Sep 23, 2011)

1. I use and love Nikon. So, I have no problems with DPReview defending a new Nikon product. But I don't see DPReview doing that in the past. It is interesting. I do wonder why though.
2. The sensor is much larger than the 1/1.7". However, wouldn't a small aperture negate the gain from the larger CX sensor? Is it quite true that technically, a small zoom with large aperture would not be possible?
3. I know that a lot of people like shallow depth of field. This is where DSLR can clearly beat the point and shoot. I, on the other hand, quite admire the "infinite" depth of field of small compact cameras. No more focus problem (of a Nikon D700), when almost everything in a small sensor camera is in focus.

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G Davidson
By G Davidson (Sep 23, 2011)

I think it's worth trying it out before totally writing it off. This will never be my main camera either, but when you compare to the best compacts, you get a big jump in quality, maybe as big as M 4/3 or so, thanks to advances in the sensor and processing.

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Camp Freddy
By Camp Freddy (Sep 23, 2011)

The best thing from the two cameras is that it will kick Pana- Oly to drop prices ( it has already started), introduce more in built EVFs and speed up their kit zooms or next generation zooms.

The j1/v1 will have most competition from the top end G12 / XZ1 / LX5 compacts and not from NEX, mFT or even NX.

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Mr Jinks
By Mr Jinks (Sep 23, 2011)

It’s interesting to note Nikon are opting for a small sensor. I think it might be a brave move. Small sensors up till now mean poorer dynamic range & poor low light performance. Even although Nikon think they are appealing to a new market segment my hunch is that APS-C size sensors in Mirrorless camera’s will win out eventually. I think micro 2/3 sensors will struggle eventually also. At the end of the day we all want lighter & more compact DSLR’s, & even rank amateurs will take note of reviews on the net before buying.

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waxwaine
By waxwaine (Sep 23, 2011)

Nikon copying Pentax?
Nikons developers are not well payed to be more creative.
Next innovation from Nikon could be a 645DX :P

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spongepuppy
By spongepuppy (Sep 22, 2011)

I can see a lot of those folks using old C-mount lenses being pretty excited about this product launch. Sign me up for a pink one.

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Le Kilt
By Le Kilt (Sep 22, 2011)

Why do most not understand that these are aimed at P&S users that want a fast focussing and fast action (good iso 3200 and high fps)?
A great kid shooter.
I'll wait to see what Canon comes out with, but I won't hold my breath...!

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Thomas Hoven
By Thomas Hoven (Sep 22, 2011)

I just upgraded my low-end Nikon SLR system with an Olympus E-PL2 due to the Oly's compact underwater house (I miss my old Nikonos, why did Nikon never release a digital one?). When I found that the Oly took better pictures than the Nikon, I was sold - and bought more Oly lenses. (You may see my simple tests at www.abamas.com/test) It doesn't seem that the Nikon 1 series would have made me act differently today. They seem to be aimed at point-and shooters rather than long-time SLR-folks. I am more curious to see what Nikon will release as a D3 series replacement. Would have been fun though to check how the Nikon 1 would perform in my little test-comparison.

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ezradja
By ezradja (Sep 23, 2011)

if you read the imaging-resource interviewing Nikon about this system, they actually admitting targeting P&S users not DSLR users. Probably surveyed those "Ginza / Harajuku" style yuppies there.

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Miguel Teixeira
By Miguel Teixeira (Sep 22, 2011)

The only thing Nikon needs to do is to get the machinery from the Nikon SP 2005 out of the warehouse stamp a FF sensor (from d700) on it with just WB,ISO and JPEG+RAW, a Screen (from d700 again) on it's back and that is it! Nothing else is needed.
Keep the S mount, and develop some fixed lens! Cosina from Mr. K already proved it works!!
Prove me wrong please!

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F Lee Canada
By F Lee Canada (Sep 22, 2011)

They said the same thing about Japanese cars 30 years ago too - "Made in Japan so you know its..." and I know what had happened to the US car makers.

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qwill
By qwill (Sep 22, 2011)

I bought a Nikon E8800 prosumer camera back in 2004/2005,built like a tank with interchangeable lenses just for this particular camera only.Wide angle,320 mm telephoto + fisheye as well as screw on filters etc.I still have this camera but have been considering a new camera.My question is ,if i bought the Nikon V1 or for example the Sony Nex 7 ,would i be upgrading? I'm only an occasional/holiday photographer but respect the bloggers on this site.

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Goodmeme
By Goodmeme (Sep 23, 2011)

Yes a new camera would be an upgrade, although the Nikon 8800 and other 2/3 sensor size 'bridge' cameras were pretty cool.

Depending on how you use it esp. for bright holidays, you may not notice a huge difference in quality / usability, although the Sony NEX / Olympus / Panasonic are better quality/option than these Nikons due to sensor being larger and more options available.

You will prob. notice a difference in speed of use. If you use the EVF viewfinder a lot, look at the Panasonic G3, otherwise The Sonys seem popular for basic use/budget.

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qwill
By qwill (Sep 23, 2011)

Thanks for taking the time to help someone who is a bit lost on where to go next for a camera.I'm never going to be anything other than a hobbyist but i don't want to make a mistake with my next purchase as i get a bit attached to my camera's and plan to keep it for years!!! Thanks again.

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AnHund
By AnHund (Sep 22, 2011)

Impressive what Nikon get out of that rather small sensor.

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jmmgarza
By jmmgarza (Sep 22, 2011)

Made in China so you know it is...

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pictureAngst
By pictureAngst (Sep 22, 2011)

...probably made in one of the most advanced factories in the world by staff who are far more dedicated than most of us in the western world who seem to think we're not only superior, but that we have the right to higher wages for lower effort.

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pictureAngst
By pictureAngst (Sep 22, 2011)

Phew - sorry for that rant, not sure what came over me. Perhaps it was the energy hit from my oversized meal and extra large latte with caramel shot.

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Philidors shadow
By Philidors shadow (Sep 22, 2011)

I think jmmgarza is the one who owes us an apology.

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Carlos C
By Carlos C (Sep 23, 2011)

Picture Angst - am working in China right now. Employees dedication and attention to detail does not seem close to what it is in the US. I maybe generalizing based on my own experiences here, but there is a marked difference in motivation and, if managers and ex pats were not all over these workers, quality. Yes, they can make quality products, and were I work we do. But the cost of ensuring they do is much higher than in the US. Again, painting broad strokes with this comments, but I am living it.

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Valentinian
By Valentinian (Sep 22, 2011)

The system 1 cameras look great, but what I really DON'T understand are the lenses: they are bigger than the 4/3 lenses, and sooo slow.... What is the sense of using a minuscule camera with a huge slow lens ????
It used to be that improvements (in this case: fast AF) were first adopted by the top of the company camera lne, and then in time they would be passed down the camera line to the entry level cameras.... But in this case we see the opposite !!!!
However, looking at all the pink, green, red, blue, yellow, violet and emerald cameras it appears that Nikon introduced this camera with another type of buyers in mind....

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SushantM
By SushantM (Sep 22, 2011)

Actually I have not handled the J1 and V1 cameras but in my opinion Nikon should launch a more advanced mirror-less camera than the present mirror-less cameras. The market is already hot by the launches of Sony, Panasonic, Olympus new mirror-less technology. I think Sony has made some bench marks in the technology. Nikon should think beyond the present technology or trend. The V1 and J1 models looking primitive than the current mirror-less cameras. The status company is carrying for that this camera is very crude and low profile.Company should rethink and create the new cameras which are different and more advance that the present competitors. We are still full-heartedly welcome our favorite company's new launch.

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MirceaR
By MirceaR (Sep 22, 2011)

Been at the Nikon presentation on the 21st.
While the cameras are cute, it seems to me, mainly from the presentation slides that it's been thought (?) to fill a niche on a graph (sic). Period. None of the pro's and the enthusiast (including me) photographers present there were impressed beyond the 'cute and fluffy' point. The others appeared to be slightly more interested, but they were from the 'dunno much about cameras but to push the button' crowd with $ to spare.
I for one, if&when will look for a mirorless camera I'll lean towards Oly/Panny, Sony (24 mpx/APS-C = brr) or even Samsung. Even compacts like X10 or S100 are way more appealing to me.
But don't mind me, i just spent a few hours toying around with a X100 yesterday and fell in love. IF it had interchangeable lenses, it would have been absolutely perfect. As it is, it's only great.
IMO if Nikon would have replaced D3100 with a single compact mirorless APS-C model they would have had my full attention.

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T3
By T3 (Sep 24, 2011)

Totally agree. It seems that Nikon are investing a lot in a system that appeals to such a narrow (niche) group of potential buyers. Seems like money down the drain to me.

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David G Peterson
By David G Peterson (Sep 22, 2011)

I'd like to see what Canon comes out with before I actually think of buying any of these new mirrorless cameras. Right now the new Sony's look to be the best thing out there! I really hope DPReview does one of their great comparison tests on all the mirrorless cameras. Also, the price on these new baby Nikons seems a little too high?

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