moimoi: Shutter vibration that makes blurry images, have you forgotten dpreview?
It is a HUGE con.
@Stu 5 - I can't comment for other websites, since I can't be sure of the problems they're having.
However, if you can eliminate image shake at a broad range of shutter speeds by attaching firmly to a tripod, then it suggests the problem isn't simply shutter shake. We have tested this, we aren't seeing the problem when the camera is solidly secured.
When not on a tripod, we're seeing some signs of shutter shock, but the far bigger issue we encountered was hand shake and failure to dampen the body.
@moimoi - then we must be imagining all the sharp hand-held images we got.
The risk of blur from the camera itself doesn't appear any higher than with the Nikon D800E.
The point is that shutter vibration can be eliminated by mounting on a solid tripod, in our testing, and its impact on hand-held images appears to vary, so it's not clear-cut that it should be a con.
In our experience, the much more significant issue is camera shake, and this can be worked 'round with higher shutter speeds.
aeonsim: So an additional 12MP, no AA & full a metal body + the loss of a few things like EFS & Phase detection is worth 4% + a step from Silver to Gold and results in a bit of a change in the tone of the overall review.
Fair enough I guess the change in tone seemed noticeable to me. Is the JPEG image quality of the A7 & A7R actually worse than the A99 as your scoring bars actually seem to indicate?
Re: Scoring - Cameras are scored compared to their peers and around the time of launch. As standards and expectations rise, with time, it becomes increasingly hard to achieve the same score, if other cameras raise the bar (so no, it's not necessarily less good than the a99).
joao 43: It's such a shame a site like this one with so many mistakes. I'll clear one, the kit lens is sold apart. Please Dpreview correct because your wrong.
"although because it's a kit lens only available for the a7 - and not currently available separately"
It's sold by Amazon and several stores. The current price is 549€ on Amazon.de.You guys should really get the story right, specially after the A7 flop review.
It's not so much a case of being wrong, it's a case of not knowing enough about other markets - it's not sold separately in the US and Sony US don't necessarily know what Sony Europe is doing.
I'll clarify the text.
RJ Ross: The EVF is 2.36MP right, not 1.44?
Can't find a spec on the Canon site - BHPhoto states 2.36MP.
We just had to double-check (having received conflicting information), but it's 2.36m dots (not MP).
mufflon: lets wait for the first samples. now there are just some numbers nothing more!numbers don't make great pictures.
In the age of digital, they do.
ManuelVilardeMacedo: One rotary dial for exposure. It's OK to argue this is an entry-level camera (well, sorta), but so is the Pentax K-500 and it offers two dials. Is it that expensive to implement one simple rotary dial? Fiddling with buttons is a no-no when using M mode.
@quezra - is that DSLR/Mirrorless distinction only because it's only Canon, Nikon and Pentax still making DSLR?
Ignore whether the cameras have a mirror and suddenly Canon and Nikon are in a minority, not offering a second dial.
Look at it in terms of sales and yes, a huge majority of cameras sold at that price point only have a single dial (because of the degree to which Canon and Nikon dominate that part of the market).
So should we just accept the omission of that feature, just because people seem willing to, or should we make clear to would-be buyers that there are more photographer-friendly options, for the money?
maxnimo: From the sample pics I saw, that nikon zoom lens belongs in a toy store. To use such a lens in a test simply destroys the credibility of this site.
The majority of our real-world images were indeed shot with the 18-140mm lens (though we also shot some with the 50mm F1.8 and 35mm F1.8 DX).
Given the *vast* majority (we've been told over 90%) of consumer-grade DSLR users never buy a second lens, it would seem pretty *in*credible if we'd used high-end glass and shown performance most users won't ever see.
Our formal tests are conducted with the 50mm F1.4G, which is exceedingly sharp at the apertures we use.
a) Give an insight into how Nikon expects this camera to be used
b) Remind you of what is said in this review about there being more photographer-friendly cameras at this price point (K-50, E-M10, X-M1 simply being the first that spring to mind).
hoxton fives: Dear Dpreview Team!You rated the canon 70D at the same image quality as the nikon d5300... surely that can't be right? generally I feel that you don't focus enough on image quality as that is surely the most important category?
@Reilly Diefenbach - We're both talking about the 70D? I'm seeing the 70D get a fraction lower score for Raw IQ (though the D5300 has a higher Raw DR score, behind the scenes - I'm surprised that isn't making more of an impact).
JPEG IQ and low light performance both show the D5300 coming out a bit ahead, which seems about right, to me.
@Reilly Diefenbach - we don't tread softly for anyone (and the complaints about how heavily we tread always comes from camera owners, not manufacturers).
More to the point, we *haven't* given the 70D and D5300 the same scores for IQ.
io_bg: When are we going to get real dynamic range tests? Comparing JPGs for DR is just ridiculous.
Trying to offer a *photographically-relevant* measure of DR is much harder than it sounds. We're working on it.
bobbarber: Comment: Looks nice. I shoot m43, but you need a DSLR once in a while. Currently I use the E-410. When it breaks, I'll pick up something like this. Nikon seems to be doing the best job in DSLRs.
Question: Will it autofocus my 50mm f1.8 AF Nikkor, or do I need to step up to the D700/7100 class of camera for that?
AF drive motors only appear at the D7X00 level, so you'll need to buy one of those or an AF-S 50mm F1.8G.
Gesture: $900 with a kit lens. WAY TOO EXPENSIVE.
'Way too expensive' in the sense of: 'exactly what Nikon and Canon usually asks for its best-selling models?'
Reilly Diefenbach: Enough with the touch screen, touch screen, touch screen, oy veh!
Also modestly proposing an indefinite moratorium on Hogan's "iterative."
It needn't be a touch screen - twin dials and a sensibly navigable quick menu would do just as well. The point is that this is more awkward to change settings on than most of its rivals.
I don't really understand what leads you to ascribe the use of 'iterative' to Thom Hogan, though.
razorre: What about REAL Olympus ISO ? I read in a few places that E-M5 (and probably E-M10) have ISO lower about 1EV ! (that's why noise is so low).Can you compare exposure parameters on test scene with some other cameras? (like Canon DSLR)
razorre - talk of Olympus being out by a whole stop stem from a misunderstanding of the data DxO presents.
We've measured the ISO sensitivity of the E-M5 and E-M1, and the biggest discrepancy we've experienced is 1/3EV.
illissius: According to my calculations, using the assumption that the aperture of the G1 X mkII decreases linearly across its focal length range, then across range which they have in common., it has almost exactly the same 35mm-equivalent aperture as a Fuji X-series camera with the 18-55/2.8-4 kit lens.
The Fuji is equivalent to 27-82.5/4.2-6 on a full-frame, and the Canon to 24-120/3.84-7.49. Using the linearity assumption, if we restrict the Canon's range to that of the Fuji's, we get 27-82.5/3.95-6.06.
Which is not bad at all. (Dimensions and weight are conspicuously absent, though...)
We've added those, now.
Photato: No PDAF points on Sensor it seems.The Autofocus more likely is Contrast Detection slow.I like the lens Focal range and apertures though.As for the Muti-aspect sensor, the emphasis should have been 16:9 and 3:2, and not 4:3.
@Photato - On-chip PDAF's main benefits, as you allude to, are in video (and continuous AF). And it's the same benefit that sees PDAF used for sports.
In terms of single AF: although in principle you'd expect CDAF to be slower, the real-world difference is negligible - there are plenty of PDAF systems that end up being slower in many respects than the best modern CDAF setups.
Equally, as Canon proved with the EOS M/22mm combination, just because CDAF *can* be fast doesn't mean it always will be.
So, while I disagree with the idea of 'Contrast Detection slow,' I couldn't agree more that what matters is performance, not underlying technology.
Zoron: i would prefer 3x zoom, 24-75mm f1.4-2.8
@tkbslc - that's a fair point.