D135ima: Where is the Pentax K-50 ?
Our understanding is that it's no longer made and so won't necessarily be available in many markets for the lifetime of this roundup.
endofoto: DR comparisons from DXOmark lab results:1: Nikon D810 has 14,82: Nikon D7200 has 14,63: Nikon D750 has 14,54: Canon 5DS has 12,4 I think full frames are falling behind crop sensors.This is the real shame, how this could be possible?This new Canon EOS 1DX mark II is also behind D7200.
That's the problem with trying to express DR as a single number - it ignores what happens above whatever cutoff you choose.
In midtones, a full frame sensor will tend to be cleaner (better signal-to-noise ratio). It's something I really want to write about.
Bruce McL: "Processor maker ARM..."
ARM does not make processors. ARM licenses their processor designs to other companies, who make the processors. ARM itself is not a manufacturer.
I'm just encountering these comments, now. I've corrected 'marker' to 'designer' but I can't see where we imply ARM isn't UK-based.
firstname.lastname@example.org: Sounds like a good move.(I've never heard of either of these companies)
And if you use a Nikon, Olympus or Sony, your camera probably has an Apical-based DR mode on it.
jkrumm: Olympus users, if they open the Olympus Viewer software, encounter Apical in the "auto tone correction" feature of the edit panel. Some kind of fill light algorithm that they license.
They almost certainly also encounter it when they set 'Gradation' to Auto on their cameras.
Retro1976: Hmm, one major major problem with the Sony, you can't see the screen outdoors in bright light. I had that model for just a week and attempted to take pictures of my kids outdoors, no dice, I missed every shot. For that very reason, there is no way i would recommend the Sony.
It's certainly worth checking whether the lenses you want exist before committing yourself to any camera or system.
Though in the case of the a5100, I feel I should point out that something like 97% of people buying cameras at this level never buy anything beyond the kit lens.
Average User: Richard: Can you tell us (1) does this camera have a bsi sensor? Or is Sony saving BSI for its own future APS-c flagship? (2) More about camera build and bump, dust and water resistance? Thanks.
Let me correct my position somewhat.
Having looked into it a bit, there are suggestions that it's not only BSI but actually a stacked design (which is a generation newer). It's extremely odd that Nikon isn't making a big play of this (unless they're *really* uncomfortable about giving Sony any credit or want to keep up the pretense that the D500 and D5 have comparable sensors).
What we know for certain, is that the performance is very good. [Bill Claff's analysis](http://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Nikon%20D500,Nikon%20D7200) shows it's the latest dual conversion gain design (see the distinctive kink in the DR curve at ISO 400) and generally offers D7200 level performance **plus** the ability to shoot 10fps.
I certainly wouldn't have any concerns about not getting the latest tech available.
agentlossing: Why no GM1/GM5 on this list?? Seems like a miss.
In which country and for how long?
The problem is that including discounted, out-of-production models is that the roundups become unmanageable and very quickly irrelevant once the remainder stock runs dry.
I read someone else's roundup just before Christmas that recommended a camera that was unavailable by the time they published it. We'd rather not be in the same position.
M Jesper: These are great cameras, but if you're lucky you can find the good 'old' Olympus E-M10 with BOTH the 14-42mm and 40-150mm dual lens kit for less than that.
It's a very, VERY good starters kit. Good EVF, touchy-flippy screen, superb IBIS, superb sensor, advanced controls, and instantly fast AF, etc. etc.
These roundups don't include out-of-production models being sold at knock-down prices. We'd have to cover too many cameras and the roundups would quickly become out-of-date as stock runs out, or irrelevant to any countries without remainder stock.
Hence no E-M10, K-50 or D5300.
The a5100 and a6000 are remarkably different cameras, given how common their underlying technology is.
The a5100 is best understood as a large-sensor point-and-shoot, while the a6000 is a mid-range, much more hands-on camera. The a6000 has a command dial on its top shoulder, along with Sony's customizable function menu, whereas these are both absent from the 5100, which instead has a touchscreen for point-and-shoot operation.
If you're an a6000-type person, then you don't want an a5100. If you're an a5100 style shooter, you don't want an a6000.
The GM5 is in the $500-$800 roundup (because these are based on list price, not street price). So far as we can tell, the GM1 is discontinued, so won't be covered.
OleThorsen: Page 6: "The final major drawback is that additional 1.5x crop factor when you shoot 4K. This is a 2.25x total crop"...."so short of niche optics like the 10.5mm fisheye, you may find it hard to find lenses that shoot wide enough".
What's wrong with the good DX wideangle lenses likeSigma 8-16mm f4.5-5.6 (UHD 18-36mm FXe FOV)Nikon 10-24mm f3.5-4.5G (UHD 23-54mm FXe FOV)Tokina 11-20mm f2.8 (UHD 25-45mm FXe FOV)
and there are many other good wideangle lenses in the same focal length range for DX, so why choose the 10,5mm fisheye as an example to illustrate the problem?
I'll admit I forgot about the Nikon 10-24mm - for some reason I had the old 12-24mm F4 DX in my mind.
I'll re-phrase it a little but my point that you don't have many choices (essentially the ones you've listed) to go wide angle (and none if you want UWA) stands.
Brian Steele: The video for the EM10 II says it has 3-axis IS. The Olympus website however says that it has 5-axis IS, like the EM5 and EM1. The older EM10 has 3-axis IS
That video appears to be of the E-M10 (Mark I), despite what the title said.
We're trying to resolve that mix-up and find the E-M10 II overview.
Sam Santana: Not sure how DPR places the A6300 above the GX8 for video, it lacks a mic input for crying out loud... and no, adding an external recorder adds to the price and thus moves the camera out of this category as a proposition for video.
The a6300 has a mic input (it lacks a headphone socket).
The a6300 has a larger sensor and really sophisticated video processing options, including Log Gamma. Still image quality is also better (we should probably have been clearer that the recommendation is not just for video, it's for if you're a stills shooter that's at all interested in video).
Yxa: I thought that the sensor had 20.9 mp not 20.7
I think I've removed any reference to 20MP, but if you find any more, I'll correct them.
ccmiller: I am seeking a D500 user manual in English. Is this something that can be downloaded for free, or must I order one? Please advise.
Typing 'D500 Manual' into most popular search engines led me to [a Nikon website from which I could download a pdf](http://downloadcenter.nikonimglib.com/en/products/323/D500.html).
1) There's no reason to think it does. Sony's [semiconductor site](http://www.sony.net/Products/SC-HP/IS/sensor2/products/index.html) lists BSI chips up to 1"-type. Beyond this the only sensors we know of are Samsung's APS-C chip in the NX1 and Sony's full frame chip in the a7R II and RX1R II. I think we'd hear manufacturers shouting from the rooftops if they'd moved to BSI.
2) With the exception of industrial and water*proof* models, manufacturers tend not to specify the degree of resilience offered. They don't claim to meet any standards, so weather 'resistant' and weather 'sealed' require a degree of faith. It usually means they're more *likely* to survive an accident or a bit of a shower, but you probably can't expect much sympathy from the warranty department if it goes wrong.
Yukon Ranger: Let the Dpreview/Nikon/bhphoto viral marketing scam begin!
Don't be fooled.
The d7200 will give u sharper cleaner images up to 3200 ISO, with 15% more reach at less than half the price.
Every shot taken on d7200 picks up 3 mp of data the d500 can't even see.
100 bucks says 10 replies to this comment, arguing how wrong I am. But the math don't lie folks, and neither do the samples.
I can't promise that we'll go back and re-shoot the D7200. It's a lot of work and we'd have to discuss whether the differences you've highlighted are actually meaningful. (We can't justify the cost of re-shooting just for neatness's sake).
That said, I am surprised by the variance between the settings. So far as I can see, they both follow our standard procedures but, because of the 1/2000th of a second shutter speed limit on the D500's electronic first curtain mode, use different means of dealing with their very brightest ISOs. We'll certainly go back and have a look, though.
With regards forums moderation, most of it is done by a very hard-working group of volunteers, so we're not aware of much of what is being done. It's a difficult job so I'm not going to wade-in and get involved in a situation I don't fully understand.
perry rhodan: Clickbait.... tralala Clickbait. ...
Oh well .. I clicked.
Serious, the roundups are no longer interesting for readers as they are more and more bad specsheet rehashes. No real information added for the beginner on the search and just teasers for the more or less informed readers. A lot of untested newer cams included. Conclusion.... klick as it is a bait.
The roundups are predominantly intended for people who aren't ever going to read our full reviews.
After years of being asked 'buy which camera should I buy' we put together the roundups to specifically help answer that question (albeit with a little bit of the inevitable consequence that it depends on exactly what your needs are).
Far from being 'spreadsheet rehashes' we've been trying to make sure that all of the newly-added cameras detail the relevant information about image quality, handling, video performance and autofocus, rather than just repeating the specs.
Yes, we're trying to attract clicks (we're a website), but we're trying to offer those people clicking something useful.
Revup: Why do they say 'Group Area AF introduced in the D4S' I had group (Dynamic) Area AF on the D200! I missed it on the D700, now its back on my D810 and it doesn't seem to be much different in set up to the D200. What I mean is, this is not a NEW idea at all on a Nikon, yet every review seems to suggest it is! Its at least 10 years old, albeit it has skipped a few models!
They're not quite the same thing.
Dynamic area AF focusing on a single point but will consider the neighbouring points if the subject falls off the specified point for a while.
Group area AF uses a cluster of focus points (not just one) to specify the subject. I believe the idea is that you use it when it's so difficult to keep a single point on your subject that Dynamic risks drifting off and focusing on the background (which it will do after the single point has been off the subject for too long).
It's a subtle distinction but it is new.