You need to set a better example, DPR. For just about any camera, this place can turn into a flame-fest pretty quickly. When YOU do it, you lend credence to troll comments. Some users like Pentax gear a lot for some very cogent reasons, and probably don't appreciate your "spoil your dinner" nonsense. Unless you can tell us what the useful takeaway is from a comment like that, I call it an insult.
Fabio Pirovano: I would test on KS1 but i'm not so happy in what i see and read.. They have one of best aesthetics never done for a DSLR like the K30 and quit for do a more classic "thing" like k50 or K500... they done one of greatest thing with K-01 named the brick(I got one amazing camera specially for the many format that can shot 16:9 included) and stop to produce... I would like a mix between K30 and K 01
I agree that the aesthetic of the K-30 was very well done. K-50 added a couple of functions (Eye-Fi compatibility, for one), but they need not have changed that edgy K-30 design. I'm happy to have the K-30 in blue version, but the K-50 120-colors marketing could have been done with the K-30.
falconeyes: This is another tough but not final exercise in Shaolin monk style patience -- to eventually become a true Pentaxian. Only few prevail ...
I understand. I truly do. Perhaps I am almost there . . .
sleibson: Ooooh, these are so purty. Kidding aside, there's method to Pentax's madness here. A marketing maxim is not to give a prospect a "yes/no" choice but a "which one do you like best" choice. It works every single day for cars. It will work for cameras. It won't work for the majority of DPR readers, who worry bout how many angelic shadows can dance on the darkened head of a pixel, but it will work for the much larger audience concerned with "Teal is my favorite color! I'm a San Jose Sharks fan." This is the same audience that will never augment the camera with a second lens. The kit lens is fine, thank you very much.
Actually, cars is a good comparison when it comes to color. Having not bought a new car in some years but looking for one now, I'm finding a plethora of colors and trims that seems to make no sense at all to me, but yet they exist because some marketing decider does the math and it works.
Depending on the manufacturing set-up, these color approaches Pentax is taking might be highly cost effective. First, these colored external case parts are definitely the least critical and likely the least expensive parts to make once the molds are produced, as they already are. Just pour in different colors for short runs. They probably are not making 10,000 "strawberry cake" copies, and then waiting to sell them, but rather making a small initial batch followed by incremental orders. All in the interest of making some ongoing profit while more serious products needing more up-front work are developed. That said, I might have called these "High Key" rather than sweets. And though I've not handled one yet, I'm guessing that K-S1 is robust like the usual Pentax bodies regardless of how it look on the outside
I've seen nothing yet on the performance of the 20m sensor, but I will hazard that it is worthy competition.
At least one news report said it was a Phantom that someone crashed to the sidewalk in Manhattan from about 300 feet, nearly hitting a pedestrian. That could have been a serious injury with a justifiable lawsuit to follow.
crowneagle: I just wondering if the fact that the KS1 is going to be able to use the Flucard makes a difference when it comes to price. I don't believe the k-50 has that capability.
K-50 can use Eye-Fi cards. FLU, I don't think so.
Peiasdf: That camera looks good. Way better than any non-black Pentax.
How so? How so "way," specifically?
"Easily combine Facebook Cover and Profile photos with text and graphics to create an integrated layout that's sure to get noticed."
I've been doing that "manually" for years, but Facebook is very obviously actually trying to make that more difficult. And at any moment, Facebook could change its layouts and render any Elements tricks useless.
FinDERP: Where is the MF camera?!?!
I LITERALLY only clicked this article to ogle that thing, and you couldn't be bothered to show the single best thing on the stand? WTF dpr
The Nikon report was "updated." This one could be updated as well.
First view of an all-black WG-M1. Might be a good hip-shot stealth stills camera.
CatsAreFineArt: "And yes, we'll bring a polarizing filter next time."
Couldn't manage to find one at the largest photo show in the world? I thought I had it rough in the suburbs.
shooting with some snazzy mirrorless with no filter threads, is my guess . . .
A spare but fair (i.e., not gratuitously snarky) report. DPR could only mention what Ricoh brought to the event, so it is what it is. My only observation would be on the point "As with all Pentax DSLRs, [theK-S1] optical viewfinder is very large for its price range." Since all Pentax DSLR viewfinders are still high-quality pentaprisms, even the entry-level OVF's are better than most viewfinders from other makers, in any price range. Viewfinder quality resonates somewhat with mention that DPR forgot a polarizer to eliminate glass case reflections (oops!). One of the finer qualities of those nice, bright Pentax viewfinders is the ability to dial in polarization quickly and precisely (when you don't forget the filter). Not just inability to see most mirrorless screens in bright sunlight, but the added difficulty of clearly seeing polarization remains a big drawback to mirrorless, IMHO.
Mr Darma: I'm inclined to believe that this will go the way of the K-01 (which was a much better camera than it's fate). As a dedicated lifelong Pentax shooter with 5 bodies and 30 lenses, I gave up on APS-C and am back shooting film on my MZ-S, PZ1-p and ZX-5n.....patiently waiting for the much rumored and perhaps never to happen full frame K-1. I wish the effort by Ricoh/Pentax had been directed thus rather than on this blingy little thing.
I was a big fan of MZ-S, PZ-1p, and ZX-5n also, especially the PZ-1p, which I think introduced the hyper-program/green button that has been with us ever since. I've never found the Pentax UI bettered by anyone. It may be that Pentax decided to be King of the Hill in APS-C, and with the K-5 series and now the K-3 they accomplished that. Engaging in the full frame battle against canikon would have been too much to shoot for given a somewhat troubled history of takeovers. The other products - K-01, Q-series, 645, K-S1 - demonstrate ongoing diversity and desire to innovate. Q-series and 645 have both been successful, and K-S1 might prove to be successful if the sensor rocks. All of these things seem like a smart long-term strategy to me. The Pentax engineers have made some exceptional, innovative, really nice stuff over the decades. I think they're not done yet, despite the comical doomsayers.
Ricoh is aiming for that segment of the action camera market that couldn't care less about every top-end specification possible. There are plenty of Youtube hero wannabes to go around for several makers; that fact is patently obvious from a few minutes on Youtube, and the idea that everyone in world is looking 24/7 to produce a film festival winner is silly. Everyone here who has declaimed the WG-M1 as a product of failed imagination have themselves failed to imagine that Ricoh has targeted the market carefully and has likely hit a sweet spot.
robbo d: Yet another tilt towards coloured and out of left field camera's for Pentax.....which is an understanding of their market strengths. Spec wise pretty good compared to the opposition..... so for all the uninformed out there, watch this space as it does well turning even more profit for Pentax.
But dear GOD.... please DPR........ DONT review this camera... can see it now, full of silly, snarkey, uninformed comments by reviewers stuck in a Canikonony space warp and no understanding of Pentax's market. I'll read proper reviews from unbiased other sites thanks....... it's not a product for you to review.
I'll second the idea that DPR simply does not understand Pentax - and not just the market Pentax aims for, but Pentax's quite fluid user interface - well enough to do a review that doesn't contain irrelevant snarks. Sometimes DPR's review comments on Pentax sound like the trolls themselves.
Biro: No touchscreen, no native wifi, big K-mount lens with noisy autofocus. The problem with the K-S1 is that it's not going to appeal to its intended market: mobile-interface shooters. There've been only two devices that have resonated with this market in the past decade: the iPhone and the GoPro camera. Pentax and the rest of the traditional camera industry still don't have a clue about how to reach these people and I have to wonder what Pentax's next crack at mirrorless will look like. I just have to shake my head.
Sandy - It's DPR -- not me -- that calls EOS1200D, D3300, and K-S1 "entry level." I think K-S1 punches a little bit above that weight class, but I took them at their word to pull up the side-by-sides for 2014. (Of course, DPR also calls the D5300 you mention a "compact SLR" -- like it does EOS1200 and D3300 -- when all three of those are actually larger in all dimensions than the "mid-size" K-S1. So we know DPR mixes some things up.) As for the grip looking wrong, I'm not making a judgment on how it feels until I hold it. As for colors, I think the red D5300 would be just the thing for YOU if you buy one.
"Pentax and the rest of the traditional camera industry still don't have a clue about how to reach these people"
That might be the case, and it might be difficult to do if attempted. But among the C, N, and P "entry level" (DPR's categorization) DSLRs for 2014 (EOS1200D, D3300, K-S1), go to the side-by-side comparison tool and . . . compare. None have touch screen, none have built-in wifi (but Pentax accepts FLU and Eye-Fi cards), and all have big lens mounts. Pentax pretty much wins the comparison not only on specs but also in not being just another black blob. Is it an iPhone or a Go-Pro hit? Surely not, but for an "entry level" (DPR's categorization) DSLR, it's a better at-bat than C or N have done in 2014.
Clyde Thomas: I come here mostly for the colorful comments. Some of you guys are hilarious. Thanks for the laughs Pentax. Hope you do well with this.
More laughs in store with Canon's and Nikon's 2014 "entry level" black blobs with knobs! Their pentamirror viewfinders are especially hilarious, not to mention that they are called "Compact SLR" here at DPR when they are bigger than the "mid-size" K-S1 in every dimension. Now THAT'S funny!
solarider: "If you look closely at what's on the screen above, you'll see that Pentax has given the menus a new font. And it's about time."
DPR: Fontification? Fontastic?
Strange, was the font so bad in the first place? I never noticed.
The Pentax menu font has always been just fine, perfectly legible and clear. DPR's "insight" here is some kind of "princess and the pea" criticism.