More significant from Pentax than these two particular cameras: "newly architected supply chain management system that is built to empower consumers to design the product they want."
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Posted on Jun 13, 2013 at 03:15:22 UTC
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Over the top, intrusive, but hey, anything to get noticed and make money in LA -- where, granted, characters who look like they just walked off of David LaChapelle sets are somewhat easy to find. I understand the temptation Mr. Tergo faces, and that Jesus-looking fellow is probably begging to be photographed every day.
But to the extent that being evocative has anything to do with it, Gregory Crewdson does far better with the real work of his series "Brief Encounters."
What I'm now interested in is DPR's note: "What do you think? Let us know in the comments." Is DPR going to provide a consensus view in a couple of weeks?
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Posted on Apr 16, 2013 at 14:23:53 UTC
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odpisan: I am pretty old man - but I'll buy a yellow one for sure! Here in Balkan is stealing of cameras very popular & I am sure that such a camera is unattractive for a thief who knows that a black one is much easier to sell.
But WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW about Penax (MF lenses): By Pentax is very easy to use manual lenses. Much easier as by others. MF lenses react like AF lenses with a simple trick: leave AF on (!!) by MF-lenses, hold the trigger & turn the focus ring on lenses - the camera automatically takes photo when focus is perfect.
I am coming to Croatia in May with a tour group. Are hotels trustworthy? Where am I most likely to encounter camera theft?
Since it's a K-30, I guess I could shower with it if necessary.
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Posted on Apr 4, 2013 at 19:40:28 UTC
Well, the original blue that I ordered for $549 before these new ones came out has arrived. The crystal red was already available in USA from one vendor, but blue seemed far enough. I'm more interested in what I'll be shooting with it than its color, but yes, I spent $10.00 more to get blue than black. Why not? The new flagship will probably be black, so I thought I would differentiate between them. The slick exterior feels like it will shed water and perhaps dry more quickly than the K-5's; that's my hope, anyway, since this is going to get wet next week.
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Posted on Apr 3, 2013 at 19:56:57 UTC
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drummercam: Simple math: Any marketing that enhances revenue flow increases the chance of a K-5 replacement. I have to assume that everyone laughing at the K-30 colors are fanboys for other brands who want Pentax to fail. I had the same impression in discussion of the K-01. Makes no sense to me to diss a brand you want to use.
My opinion is that the K-5's are simply a very hard act to follow. For it's entire run, almost nothing else has been near it for price, performance, IQ, and WR. Ergonomics and interface are great -- they could put the upgrade into the same form factor and it would be fine with me. If Pentax takes it's time to replace the K-5's and get it right, it's fine with me.
As for colors, the "K-3" photo that circulated about a year ago was a K-5 Special Edition (re-shaped grip) in what now seems to be called silky silver. I thought it looked totally boss. If the new flagship looks like that or in black/silver it will fly off the shelves.
And speaking of that Special Edition screen glass, Miles, I've been wondering if the K-5II/s -- since they redid the screen with the resin layer -- also had the Special Edition hardened glass. I would have had the IIs by now had I known that to be the case.
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Posted on Apr 3, 2013 at 13:53:16 UTC
drummercam: Simple math: Any marketing that enhances revenue flow increases the chance of a K-5 replacement. I have to assume that everyone laughing at the K-30 colors are fanboys for other brands who want Pentax to fail. I had the same impression in discussion of the K-01. Makes no sense to me to diss a brand you want to use.
My opinion is that the K-5's are simply a very hard act to follow. For it's entire run, almost nothing else has been near it for price, performance, IQ, and WR. Ergonomics and interface are great -- they could put the upgrade into the same form factor and it would be fine with me. If Pentax takes it's time to replace the K-5's and get it right, it's fine with me.
As for colors, the "K-3" photo that circulated about a year ago was a K-5 Special Edition (re-shaped grip) in what now seems to be called silky silver. I thought it looked totally boss. If the new flagship looks like that or in black/silver it will fly off the shelves.
The special edition grip had a second curved indentation on the front to accommodate the fingers. I think it also was slightly larger overall, but do not know for sure. Pics are still available on the web, and a guy in Singapore still has a few new ones for sale on ebay, where the picture can be seen.
You can also just google "Pentax K-3". The supposed mock-up of a K-3 is the K-5 Special Edition in what is now called silky silver.
Don't confuse the first Special Edition with the second "Limited Edition," which had the original K-5 grip and was released with the 40mm XS.
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Posted on Apr 3, 2013 at 13:41:05 UTC
Simple math: Any marketing that enhances revenue flow increases the chance of a K-5 replacement. I have to assume that everyone laughing at the K-30 colors are fanboys for other brands who want Pentax to fail. I had the same impression in discussion of the K-01. Makes no sense to me to diss a brand you want to use.
My opinion is that the K-5's are simply a very hard act to follow. For it's entire run, almost nothing else has been near it for price, performance, IQ, and WR. Ergonomics and interface are great -- they could put the upgrade into the same form factor and it would be fine with me. If Pentax takes it's time to replace the K-5's and get it right, it's fine with me.
As for colors, the "K-3" photo that circulated about a year ago was a K-5 Special Edition (re-shaped grip) in what now seems to be called silky silver. I thought it looked totally boss. If the new flagship looks like that or in black/silver it will fly off the shelves.
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Posted on Apr 3, 2013 at 12:38:42 UTC
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If this marketing approach works and helps keep Pentax in the game and on pace for the K-5 successor, I say more power to them. No laughs from me. The K-5's prove that when they put their mind to it, they knock it out of the park. The K-30 is no slouch camera either. If the colors get it noticed by a new group of buyers, that is great as far as I'm concerned.
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Posted on Apr 3, 2013 at 04:06:40 UTC
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The first and permanent image on any memory card should be a photograph of your name and contact information on a piece of paper, locked against erasure. No need for a boat operator and a tourism bureau.
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Posted on Mar 27, 2013 at 14:55:41 UTC
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drummercam: The canons-nikons have had their own flops and their own manufacturing defects. There were light leaks on one of the canon dslr's, and the nikon V2 looks like marc newson could have given it some badly needed design help (same with entire PS G15 line and the NEX's, as far as I'm concerned). Disagree that K-01 is in any way ungainly in the hand. It lends itself to a solid grip and thus better view-screen shooting than anything I've handled. Big enough for a good, long-lasting battery in common with my K-7 and K-5. And rubbish to all the noise about the rubber SD card flap. It's fine. Intuitive menus, great feel to the buttons and dials and the pop-up. Maybe you need to own one to know it, but the K-01 is a solid camera capable of great images, and I didn't need to buy a single lens for it.
Clint - I said nothing about the "look" of K-01 at all. My original post is about K-01's functionality as a camera and how it suits me personally. And too Myari, I never disputed his opinion that K-01 was, in his words, a flop. I merely pointed out that other brands have their share of the same problems as complained of in the K-01, and then I stuck to how the K-01 suits me. I didn't dispute "flop" and I didn't dwell on how good (or bad, for that matter) I think K-01 "looks." I addressed function. You and Myari are apparently fixated on flaming people who like the K-01 at all. Since I like it for its functionality, not its "success" or "looks" please leave me alone.
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Posted on Feb 28, 2013 at 23:52:02 UTC
drummercam: The canons-nikons have had their own flops and their own manufacturing defects. There were light leaks on one of the canon dslr's, and the nikon V2 looks like marc newson could have given it some badly needed design help (same with entire PS G15 line and the NEX's, as far as I'm concerned). Disagree that K-01 is in any way ungainly in the hand. It lends itself to a solid grip and thus better view-screen shooting than anything I've handled. Big enough for a good, long-lasting battery in common with my K-7 and K-5. And rubbish to all the noise about the rubber SD card flap. It's fine. Intuitive menus, great feel to the buttons and dials and the pop-up. Maybe you need to own one to know it, but the K-01 is a solid camera capable of great images, and I didn't need to buy a single lens for it.
You have a point about my understanding, Myari? Please clariify. I don't like the look of the NEX. I like K-01. Does that bother you?
Maybe you're just flaming someone you don't know?
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Posted on Feb 28, 2013 at 13:14:09 UTC
The canons-nikons have had their own flops and their own manufacturing defects. There were light leaks on one of the canon dslr's, and the nikon V2 looks like marc newson could have given it some badly needed design help (same with entire PS G15 line and the NEX's, as far as I'm concerned). Disagree that K-01 is in any way ungainly in the hand. It lends itself to a solid grip and thus better view-screen shooting than anything I've handled. Big enough for a good, long-lasting battery in common with my K-7 and K-5. And rubbish to all the noise about the rubber SD card flap. It's fine. Intuitive menus, great feel to the buttons and dials and the pop-up. Maybe you need to own one to know it, but the K-01 is a solid camera capable of great images, and I didn't need to buy a single lens for it.
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Posted on Feb 27, 2013 at 22:19:19 UTC
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javidog: Absolutely nothing wrong with this camera at all. I highly recommend picking one up discounted before they vanish. It is a great quality, great results, feels good in the hand and is a solid camera. It is not a DSLR or a pocket camera. Who cares about no viewfinder? The fact that it is discontinued does not mean failure. Some of the biggest and most successful companies have discontinued products and they have done quite well. Kudos to Pentax for trying new designs and concepts. In Japan, the K-01 is seen often on the streets but the Western world has been brainwashed into worshipping all things Canon and Nikon--both flawed camera producers with their own list of failures.
Agree than the canons-nikons have had their own flops, and their own manufacturing defects, like the unfortunate original K-5 sensor stains. There were light leaks on one of the canon dslr's, and the nikon V2 looks like marc newson could have given it some badly needed design help. Disagree that K-01 is in any way ungainly in the hand. It lends itself to a solid grip and thus better viewscreen shooting than anything I've handled. Big enough for a longlasting battery in common with my K-7 and K-5. And rubbish to all the noise about the rubber SD card flap. It's fine.
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Posted on Feb 27, 2013 at 22:08:51 UTC
It takes a jittery video because of the vibration, and no sound for the same reason. Upload qual degrades also, and the optional 720 degree rotation makes a file too large to send. Greatest use will prolly be dinner tables in restaurants. Fun to watch a couple of times, tho. Just don't do it near an edge because if it topples it could hit the floor. Phone must be naked, too.
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Posted on Jan 4, 2013 at 18:51:00 UTC
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If the "big bad government" were collecting private information on citizens -- demographic, social, financial, etc. -- people like the right-wing Tea Party "get government out of out lives" crowd would be in a vigilante uproar. But if corporations do it for profit, it's all apparently okay. It's good to see a reaction against corporations. They are invading privacy far worse than the government can do or cares to do.
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Posted on Dec 26, 2012 at 17:43:33 UTC
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More significant from Pentax than these two particular cameras: "newly architected supply chain management system that is built to empower consumers to design the product they want."
Over the top, intrusive, but hey, anything to get noticed and make money in LA -- where, granted, characters who look like they just walked off of David LaChapelle sets are somewhat easy to find. I understand the temptation Mr. Tergo faces, and that Jesus-looking fellow is probably begging to be photographed every day.
But to the extent that being evocative has anything to do with it, Gregory Crewdson does far better with the real work of his series "Brief Encounters."
What I'm now interested in is DPR's note: "What do you think? Let us know in the comments." Is DPR going to provide a consensus view in a couple of weeks?
odpisan: I am pretty old man - but I'll buy a yellow one for sure! Here in Balkan is stealing of cameras very popular & I am sure that such a camera is unattractive for a thief who knows that a black one is much easier to sell.
But WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW about Penax (MF lenses):
By Pentax is very easy to use manual lenses. Much easier as by others. MF lenses react like AF lenses with a simple trick: leave AF on (!!) by MF-lenses, hold the trigger & turn the focus ring on lenses - the camera automatically takes photo when focus is perfect.
I am coming to Croatia in May with a tour group. Are hotels trustworthy? Where am I most likely to encounter camera theft?
Since it's a K-30, I guess I could shower with it if necessary.
Well, the original blue that I ordered for $549 before these new ones came out has arrived. The crystal red was already available in USA from one vendor, but blue seemed far enough. I'm more interested in what I'll be shooting with it than its color, but yes, I spent $10.00 more to get blue than black. Why not? The new flagship will probably be black, so I thought I would differentiate between them. The slick exterior feels like it will shed water and perhaps dry more quickly than the K-5's; that's my hope, anyway, since this is going to get wet next week.
drummercam: Simple math: Any marketing that enhances revenue flow increases the chance of a K-5 replacement. I have to assume that everyone laughing at the K-30 colors are fanboys for other brands who want Pentax to fail. I had the same impression in discussion of the K-01. Makes no sense to me to diss a brand you want to use.
My opinion is that the K-5's are simply a very hard act to follow. For it's entire run, almost nothing else has been near it for price, performance, IQ, and WR. Ergonomics and interface are great -- they could put the upgrade into the same form factor and it would be fine with me. If Pentax takes it's time to replace the K-5's and get it right, it's fine with me.
As for colors, the "K-3" photo that circulated about a year ago was a K-5 Special Edition (re-shaped grip) in what now seems to be called silky silver. I thought it looked totally boss. If the new flagship looks like that or in black/silver it will fly off the shelves.
And speaking of that Special Edition screen glass, Miles, I've been wondering if the K-5II/s -- since they redid the screen with the resin layer -- also had the Special Edition hardened glass. I would have had the IIs by now had I known that to be the case.
drummercam: Simple math: Any marketing that enhances revenue flow increases the chance of a K-5 replacement. I have to assume that everyone laughing at the K-30 colors are fanboys for other brands who want Pentax to fail. I had the same impression in discussion of the K-01. Makes no sense to me to diss a brand you want to use.
My opinion is that the K-5's are simply a very hard act to follow. For it's entire run, almost nothing else has been near it for price, performance, IQ, and WR. Ergonomics and interface are great -- they could put the upgrade into the same form factor and it would be fine with me. If Pentax takes it's time to replace the K-5's and get it right, it's fine with me.
As for colors, the "K-3" photo that circulated about a year ago was a K-5 Special Edition (re-shaped grip) in what now seems to be called silky silver. I thought it looked totally boss. If the new flagship looks like that or in black/silver it will fly off the shelves.
The special edition grip had a second curved indentation on the front to accommodate the fingers. I think it also was slightly larger overall, but do not know for sure. Pics are still available on the web, and a guy in Singapore still has a few new ones for sale on ebay, where the picture can be seen.
You can also just google "Pentax K-3". The supposed mock-up of a K-3 is the K-5 Special Edition in what is now called silky silver.
Don't confuse the first Special Edition with the second "Limited Edition," which had the original K-5 grip and was released with the 40mm XS.
Simple math: Any marketing that enhances revenue flow increases the chance of a K-5 replacement. I have to assume that everyone laughing at the K-30 colors are fanboys for other brands who want Pentax to fail. I had the same impression in discussion of the K-01. Makes no sense to me to diss a brand you want to use.
My opinion is that the K-5's are simply a very hard act to follow. For it's entire run, almost nothing else has been near it for price, performance, IQ, and WR. Ergonomics and interface are great -- they could put the upgrade into the same form factor and it would be fine with me. If Pentax takes it's time to replace the K-5's and get it right, it's fine with me.
As for colors, the "K-3" photo that circulated about a year ago was a K-5 Special Edition (re-shaped grip) in what now seems to be called silky silver. I thought it looked totally boss. If the new flagship looks like that or in black/silver it will fly off the shelves.
If this marketing approach works and helps keep Pentax in the game and on pace for the K-5 successor, I say more power to them. No laughs from me. The K-5's prove that when they put their mind to it, they knock it out of the park. The K-30 is no slouch camera either. If the colors get it noticed by a new group of buyers, that is great as far as I'm concerned.
The silky green would actually look good with some of the old F-series lenses.
ego-trippin' at it's technologically finest.
RichRMA: The downside of I.D. on your memory card, "Please, steal my identity."
Mine says "If found, please call Mike, 123-XXX-XXXX." I'm comfortable with that much risk.
The first and permanent image on any memory card should be a photograph of your name and contact information on a piece of paper, locked against erasure. No need for a boat operator and a tourism bureau.
drummercam: The canons-nikons have had their own flops and their own manufacturing defects. There were light leaks on one of the canon dslr's, and the nikon V2 looks like marc newson could have given it some badly needed design help (same with entire PS G15 line and the NEX's, as far as I'm concerned). Disagree that K-01 is in any way ungainly in the hand. It lends itself to a solid grip and thus better view-screen shooting than anything I've handled. Big enough for a good, long-lasting battery in common with my K-7 and K-5. And rubbish to all the noise about the rubber SD card flap. It's fine. Intuitive menus, great feel to the buttons and dials and the pop-up. Maybe you need to own one to know it, but the K-01 is a solid camera capable of great images, and I didn't need to buy a single lens for it.
Clint - I said nothing about the "look" of K-01 at all. My original post is about K-01's functionality as a camera and how it suits me personally. And too Myari, I never disputed his opinion that K-01 was, in his words, a flop. I merely pointed out that other brands have their share of the same problems as complained of in the K-01, and then I stuck to how the K-01 suits me. I didn't dispute "flop" and I didn't dwell on how good (or bad, for that matter) I think K-01 "looks." I addressed function. You and Myari are apparently fixated on flaming people who like the K-01 at all. Since I like it for its functionality, not its "success" or "looks" please leave me alone.
drummercam: The canons-nikons have had their own flops and their own manufacturing defects. There were light leaks on one of the canon dslr's, and the nikon V2 looks like marc newson could have given it some badly needed design help (same with entire PS G15 line and the NEX's, as far as I'm concerned). Disagree that K-01 is in any way ungainly in the hand. It lends itself to a solid grip and thus better view-screen shooting than anything I've handled. Big enough for a good, long-lasting battery in common with my K-7 and K-5. And rubbish to all the noise about the rubber SD card flap. It's fine. Intuitive menus, great feel to the buttons and dials and the pop-up. Maybe you need to own one to know it, but the K-01 is a solid camera capable of great images, and I didn't need to buy a single lens for it.
You have a point about my understanding, Myari? Please clariify. I don't like the look of the NEX. I like K-01. Does that bother you?
Maybe you're just flaming someone you don't know?
The canons-nikons have had their own flops and their own manufacturing defects. There were light leaks on one of the canon dslr's, and the nikon V2 looks like marc newson could have given it some badly needed design help (same with entire PS G15 line and the NEX's, as far as I'm concerned). Disagree that K-01 is in any way ungainly in the hand. It lends itself to a solid grip and thus better view-screen shooting than anything I've handled. Big enough for a good, long-lasting battery in common with my K-7 and K-5. And rubbish to all the noise about the rubber SD card flap. It's fine. Intuitive menus, great feel to the buttons and dials and the pop-up. Maybe you need to own one to know it, but the K-01 is a solid camera capable of great images, and I didn't need to buy a single lens for it.
javidog: Absolutely nothing wrong with this camera at all. I highly recommend picking one up discounted before they vanish. It is a great quality, great results, feels good in the hand and is a solid camera. It is not a DSLR or a pocket camera. Who cares about no viewfinder? The fact that it is discontinued does not mean failure. Some of the biggest and most successful companies have discontinued products and they have done quite well. Kudos to Pentax for trying new designs and concepts. In Japan, the K-01 is seen often on the streets but the Western world has been brainwashed into worshipping all things Canon and Nikon--both flawed camera producers with their own list of failures.
Agree than the canons-nikons have had their own flops, and their own manufacturing defects, like the unfortunate original K-5 sensor stains. There were light leaks on one of the canon dslr's, and the nikon V2 looks like marc newson could have given it some badly needed design help. Disagree that K-01 is in any way ungainly in the hand. It lends itself to a solid grip and thus better viewscreen shooting than anything I've handled. Big enough for a longlasting battery in common with my K-7 and K-5. And rubbish to all the noise about the rubber SD card flap. It's fine.
Looks like it could use some help from Marc Newson.
It takes a jittery video because of the vibration, and no sound for the same reason. Upload qual degrades also, and the optional 720 degree rotation makes a file too large to send. Greatest use will prolly be dinner tables in restaurants. Fun to watch a couple of times, tho. Just don't do it near an edge because if it topples it could hit the floor. Phone must be naked, too.
If the "big bad government" were collecting private information on citizens -- demographic, social, financial, etc. -- people like the right-wing Tea Party "get government out of out lives" crowd would be in a vigilante uproar. But if corporations do it for profit, it's all apparently okay. It's good to see a reaction against corporations. They are invading privacy far worse than the government can do or cares to do.
cant see as many threads in a window. bad move.