mcbillIam: July Fool's Day?
Ha ha, I thought exactly the same!
waxwaine: Nikon´s new camera batteries exploding, Canon has poissones grip. Looks likes this days you don´t need to go shoot in to Ciudad Juarez or Siria to put your life in danger as a photographer.
What exploding batteries? Where on earth are you getting your information? Point to ONE story anywhere of an exploding battery in a Nikon camera?
lol. I actually thought this was an April fool, until I realised it was the middle of July. This is not even a bad joke, this is unbelievable. Who would literally touch a Canon product these days?
audijam: 1Dx : )not Nikon D4.....i wonder why....
Wow, I'd say that's a massive risk for a largely untested camera, a year late after massive design and production issues. No way would I put my eggs in that dodgy basket....
cgarrard: WOW! That, that...............is why Canon leads. That, is a serious tip of the hat to its customers. They know the value of firmware updates in the digital age now it seems, obviously they can't do this with every camera (not enough time or resources) but they sure picked a good one to do this with.
7D owners have to be ecstatic!
Canon Leads? Progressive? I can't remember seeing a product from Canon in the last 5 years that brought ANY real innovation... Sensor development has died. If Canon didn't roll out updates like this, there would be nothing at all.
panoviews: Canon: We open the crippled functions for the public since we are one step behind in camera innovations.
Ha ha ha. Spot on.
olyflyer: The 18-300 DX is exactly the lens which is not needed. They should have made a 16-70/2.8VR DX instead. It would have been a much better travel lens, as well as a very useful all purpose "normal" zoom. What's the point of making yet another consumer superzoom?
Consumer superzooms for consumer DX cameras so there is a massive market for this. DX cameras are rarely a professional's choice.....
Hauer: The launch of yet another DX lens at this stage must mean that there is still hope for a DX dSLR being the long awaited D300/300s replacement in the not too distant future!
There is for the first time solid intel on a D400 and as you say this lens announcement shows that Nikon are still very much committed to DX, backed with the 3xxx and 5xxx series too of course.
Petka: "since it's hard to imagine large numbers of D800 owners using a lens with a recommended price of $599 as their everyday lens."
Funny comment, why would a LOW price be a problem it the IQ is good enough for D800. At least for people who are photographers, not poseurs. Are we expected to leave the price stickers on?
lol. Indeed. Two of the VERY best lenses I have found for the D800 are the 105mm VR and the 85mm f/1.8G. I'm not sure you'd call either of them premium lenses with premium prices (at least not by todays standards) so the DPReview comment is ridiculous. It's clear however they are merely saying the D600 will be here soon, but maybe it would have been better just to say that :)
MikeNeufeld30: Nikon is sure putting out product at a rapid Rate.. Is Canon Awake???
"Is Canon Awake???"
It appears they are dead from the neck down. Over-priced over-hyped equipment like the 24-70 VII a 1DX that was announced nearly a year ago. No thanks......
MattiD80: D800 85%D800E 84%
5d mIII 80%
That's how i see it after reading tons of reviews. Funny to see Dpreview thinks the opposite way. Money not important to DPR so 5d gets status quo. A very very very tiny sharpness increase give 2% extra, without getting price penalty XD I disagree again.
D800 (non e) is by far the best purchase at the moment, of an enthousiast who want fullframe but doenst have endless amounts of money.
I really don't know where this strange comments come from about the 5DMKIII being better built. There is no difference in build quality whatsoever between these cameras, except maybe that light enters the D800 where it's meant to.
Steve Wilson: I can sharpen the D800 RAW park scene to look indistinguishable from the unsharpened D800E version, but it is tough to get the moire in the E version to look at good as the D800. Also, the small white railing in the D800E image looks like it has an extra horizontal line running through it that doesn't appear in the D800 version. Maybe it is there in reality, and maybe not. These arguments make me lean towards the D800.
On the other hand, one can immediately see the difference in sharpness and contrast when comparing the D800 and D800E side-by-side at optimal lens resolution. And maybe most images have so much color anyway that a little moire takes a long time to notice. These arguments convince me that the D800E is the way to go.
I suspect the Nikon engineers and marketing folks also couldn't decide.
Wow, more "sharpening noise" comment. I guess you have no clue about how to sharpen an image...
russbarnes: Well to me the premium of the D800E over the D800 still does not seem worth it, even after all of the millions of words and images written over the last few months. There is a tiny difference in image quality at specific apertures only, easily recovered through a small amount of sharpening. In fact in many ways I would say that you can control image quality far easier with the D800 over the D800E. I'd rather add a small amount of sharpening to a specific area in my image than be attempting to blur or remove moire and aliasing effects. I praise Nikon for their efforts and for once again innovating in the market, but I fail to see how the D800E can be given a higher score here based on "value" when the camera costs considerably more to get that tiny increase in resolution, which often comes with a trade off in overall image quality.
Sharpening existing noise? At what ISO? Such comments are ABSOLUTE BUNK. This camera is made to be shot at ISO100-200 and at such a level there is no noise so my statement stands. And yes, the difference is visible at f4 and invisible everywhere else so my statement absolutely stands.
Mssimo: 5D mark III 82% GoldD800 82% Gold
D800E 84% Gold (better IQ scores and better value?)
5DMKIII 75%D800 88%D800E 90%
That would have been more realistic, and I think in the real world this is exactly as most people would objectively score these offerings in their own minds, never mind what DPReview chose.
Devendra: D800E is the way to go if you want optimum quality - including at higher f-stops
moire can be corrected, but getting that extra crispness in every well taken shot should not be underestimated
I utterly fail to see it at "higher f stops". The D800E is great if you shoot at f4 all day by the looks of it. Anywhere else and it's lost...
Well to me the premium of the D800E over the D800 still does not seem worth it, even after all of the millions of words and images written over the last few months. There is a tiny difference in image quality at specific apertures only, easily recovered through a small amount of sharpening. In fact in many ways I would say that you can control image quality far easier with the D800 over the D800E. I'd rather add a small amount of sharpening to a specific area in my image than be attempting to blur or remove moire and aliasing effects. I praise Nikon for their efforts and for once again innovating in the market, but I fail to see how the D800E can be given a higher score here based on "value" when the camera costs considerably more to get that tiny increase in resolution, which often comes with a trade off in overall image quality.
Forfie: "When a still image was captured while viewing existing images in playback mode, the monitor turned off, the memory card access lamp glowed steadily, and, in some rare cases, the camera ceased to respond to operations. This issue has been resolved."
I can confirm (D800), did a shoot this morning with the new firmware, no more occasional HUGE delays waiting for the monitor come back up, or having to power cycle.
Things are moving right along, thanks Nikon.
You're such a troll taikonaut why do you love to comment on the D800 so much when you spend your life in the Canon forum??? Ah that's right, massive product envy...... You will have such a hollow life for the next three years commenting on every D800 piece of information until Canon eventually offer something in the market that comes remotely close.
draculavn: Bye bye nikon. I will buy a 5D mark 3
But you told everyone you already have one Dracula. Oh that's right, you can't afford it though can you, and with the massive price premium for the 5DMKIII it's hardly surprising. And far better to have a firmware update to correct some minor issue than have someone take my camera apart and put some sticky tape to fix light entering the camera in all the wrong places like the 5DMKIII... What's the Canon solution for all of the dust stuck in the viewfinders Dracula?
facedodge: I keep hearing Canon Fanboys and Nikon Fanboys lumped into the same category here, but it seems to me the Nikon side has much more venom in them than the Canon guys do.
Go look at the 5D forum. It's full of D800 threads or threads that are quickly hijacked. The D800 forum is much less invaded if at all.
Nikon is the smaller company, so I suppose there is more niche' hipster type mentality over there.
What a lot of tosh. The D800 threads have been started in their hundreds in the Canon forums by paranoid Canon 5D owners and pretenders... Truth is no one is really interested in the 5DMKIII in the Nikon forums - the threads speak for themselves. Look closer to home for your issues I would suggest before spreading BS like this.
jackpro: Canon is the photographers choice with extremely good glass from amazing primes to amazing zooms. Nikon has the reasonably good 14-24 although soft at 24, which in most pro cases is too wide & struggles with flare, Canon skin tone is better. The 1DsIII has been shooting beautiful skin tone for a very long time with very little post processing. The 5DIII is a 1DsIII with very good video functionality at a 5D price. Canon lenses are flatter as well which is much more flattering in people shots (you can always add contrast but you can't take it away). Nikon has tons of resolution but just jump in to the Nikon lens forum & see the complaining about the lack of variety in the lens department (soft 24-70) griping about the primes, contemplating Sigma? for macro its sad! Go in to the canon lens forum very different with endless choices from the top of the line to 2nd & third even 4th tier lenses to choose from joy! A new 24-70II which appears to be amazing a 70-200ISII which is outstanding.
Your comments about Nikon lenses are WAY OFF the mark.