Thorgrem: 'We want to make lenses that can be used forever'. Not going to happen. Every mount will eventually be obsolete. If this was the startingpoint of these lenses the safest bet was to make it for Canon EF-mount or Nikon F-mount.
And how many of those can cover a ff sensor? The one with about half the flange distance is Pentax Q. Who are you trying to fool? Only yourself I hope.
Don Diafragma: WOW! Another Sony Story....
DPR says they are independent press, but sometimes I unfortunately get the feeling they are an extension of the Sony PR machine.
Growing part? The data from Japan about 2015 shows a 10% drop in marketshare for Sony in the mirrorless part and only 0,4% left in the dSLR part. So where is this rappid growth path you are speaking of?
ScanSpeak: Does the sensor need to be fed?
Yes. And if you feed it meat it wil even grow. ;)
My assumption is that if E-mount doesn't exist anymore and you want the lenses to mount on a different mount you will need an adapter. As this are digital lenses you would also need a adapter who can transfer the electronic commands. My assumption is that an adapter would take some space. My assumption is that the flange distance wont decrease further because the distance in E-mount is already a problem.
So a lot of basic logic you don't seem to get.
Good luck than to mount these electronic lenses with a very short distance to the sensor on another mount.
It's a shame it's so expansive. I think it looks like a great camera to use. Although the next one needs a EVF.
forpetessake: Good to hear the emphasis on lenses. Maybe, Sony finally will be able to produce good quality lenses with fewer defects.
That would be the real surprise. :) Hope they finally come with a full range of APS-C E-mount lenses of decent quality. They don't have to need a blue or orange logo on the side. So that safes some money.
'We want to make lenses that can be used forever'. Not going to happen. Every mount will eventually be obsolete. If this was the startingpoint of these lenses the safest bet was to make it for Canon EF-mount or Nikon F-mount.
Favorable Exponynt: No touch screen. No sale. No ibis no sale, no battery life no sale really for $1000 they should be able to make a more complete camera. They don't even need to put a mirror or a pentaxprism in it nor 3 or four motors operating it all. Only the physical shutter still reminds of a real camera. :p
So not weather sealed. It's also not top op the line. The D500 is a top of the line APS-C camera made for pro's. This one is clearly not
Thorgrem: Still no good enough standard zoom for APS-C. The new 24-70 can be nice but not for APS-C. So this A6300 is still part of a crippled system. Nice that Sony released a new A6xxx body but they again forgot about lenses for APS-C. After al these years I think they will never learn.
Although it's (18-105) a nice lens it isn't a standard zoom lens. It's also huge, heavy and slow. Furthermore it isn't wide enough for a lens that suppose to be more than the kitlens. The tiny 16-50 is indeed tiny (and lightweight) but that is the only positive to say about this subpar kitlens.
Old Cameras: It looks like a really nice combination with the 16-70 f4, although that lens is another $1000. Seems like the improvements are mostly biased toward video, I still think most users are either video or stills centric - but not both. A larger viewfinder would have been nice.
Lol! So you have to do the quality control yourself... For a 1000 dollar lens... In one review the lens was so terrible that they send it a few times back to Sony. Sony just returned it to the reviewers because it was within there standards...
The 1000 dollar 16-70 f/4 is a subpar lens. Read the reviews first before you buy one.
Still no good enough standard zoom for APS-C. The new 24-70 can be nice but not for APS-C. So this A6300 is still part of a crippled system. Nice that Sony released a new A6xxx body but they again forgot about lenses for APS-C. After al these years I think they will never learn.
Intermittentoverexposure: Just as everyone is looking to FF mirrorless, Pentax releases a FF DSL. /facepalm
If I wanted a FF camera it sure wouldn't be a Sony FF E-mount. Because of the lens size no real advantages over dSLR. What does the body size matters if the lenses are not smaller and lighter? I think it's a good move for Pentax.
ttran88: RIP A-Mount and APSC E-mount!!
You don't have to convince me of the advantages of smaler than FF sensors. Convince Sony. Also, you disagree with me but you don't give arguments, instead you talk about the advantages of APS-C. I agree with you that the E-mount is badly designed for FF sensors.
The thing is that A-mount and APS-C E-mount never where profitable. FF E-mount is profitable. Sooner or later Sony will get rid of all non profitable things. Sure they will release an A5200, A77III and maybe A6100 just to keep people happy and get some new people into the system. But they want all users to 'upgrade' to FF E-mount. A-mount and APS-C E-mount is going the way of the Canon rebel series. Uninspired and far from high end.
Jonathan F/2: Both Canon and Nikon stocks are on a downward trend. Interestingly enough, both Olympus and Fuji are seeing positive stock growth, especially with their new announcements this week!
Olympus also wrote black figures with their camera division. And I doubt that Canon is making money with the cheapest rebels and Nikon with the 3300. They are only there for market share to get people into the system. A tactic all others also use.
ekaton: It`s soap box design is only 8mm narrower and 5 mm shorter than the GX8. With the necessary grip added the size will be about the same as will be the weight. So only brand loyalty or design would speak for choosing the Pen, everything else (rational) favors the Panasonic. Time for dpreview to compare these two direct contenders.
Olympus m4/3 camera's always attract more people than Panasonic m4/3 camera's. Olympus has by far the biggest share in m4/3. Why would you think it will be different with the GX8 and PEN-F?
princecody: Olympus why not debut a FF camera to compete with the Sony RX1R & Leica Q?
Lol, Olympus making FF lenses for Sony E-mount is the wet dream of Sony users. It will never happen, deal with it. Olympus concentrates on making great lenses for m4/3. That Sony users would like Olympus to make lenses for there system is very understandable because, to be honest, Sony isn't very good at it themselves.
dmanthree: Nice try, Oly, but the lack of a grip and that strange dial on the front make no sense. I guess Oly is saying that if you want a grip, go for an OM series camera. I guess it's not for me.
I personally like the removable grip of my E-M10 a lot. With small and light primes, remove the grip for a compact package. With lenses like the 12-40 add the grip for more comfort.