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On Canon EOS 70D Review preview (656 comments in total)
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photofan1986: "Score" "Dxo"' blah blah...I really wonder how many of you really compared the actual IQ instead of just relying on Dxo figures. I also wonder how we managed to go out and shoot before Dxo!

Indeed... sensors and moves are the same thing... I totally get your point...

Watching movies costs peanuts... so every Tom, Dick & Harry are free to formulate their own opinions...

Camera's require some level of investment... Unfortunately DXO behaves likes its the be all and end all authority on sensors... almost subconsciously coercing people to believe one brand is superior than the other based upon their scores...

Direct link | Posted on Oct 31, 2013 at 09:49 UTC
On Canon EOS 70D Review preview (656 comments in total)
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photofan1986: "Score" "Dxo"' blah blah...I really wonder how many of you really compared the actual IQ instead of just relying on Dxo figures. I also wonder how we managed to go out and shoot before Dxo!

I seriously wonder whether the "engineers" at DXO could ever design, develop & implement a sensor... considering the fact that they act like the final authority on sensor evaluation...

Never trust DXO...

Direct link | Posted on Oct 31, 2013 at 09:15 UTC
On Nikon D5300 preview (278 comments in total)

This actually looks like a good camera... a decent amount of refinement over the D5200 ...

I'm fairly sure that the next iteration of the D5XXX series will probably employ a new higher resolution sensor... I doubt they'll use this 24 MP chip for more than two generations...

Direct link | Posted on Oct 17, 2013 at 14:40 UTC as 80th comment
On Nikon D610 preview (627 comments in total)

Perhaps DXO will help Nikon win back its customer confidence by awarding this "new" camera "class leading" sensor scores...? Its obviously destined to hit around 97 for an overall score.... Low light will probably surpass the magical 3000 threshold... :)

Direct link | Posted on Oct 9, 2013 at 14:02 UTC as 95th comment
On Nikon D610 preview (627 comments in total)
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Joseph: Slight improvement? No, sorry no (real) improvement.

only Nikon's beleaguered reputation... not forgetting their faulty shutter mechanism...

And exactly who said the D600 provided "class leading" IQ ...? Are you quoting an official review source or just formulating your own theory...?

Direct link | Posted on Oct 9, 2013 at 13:47 UTC
On Nikon D610 preview (627 comments in total)

Wonder if they're just refurbished D600's that were previously returned... that have been tweaked... rebranded and sold to the public as the D610 ...

Probably a severe loss of sales in the FF segment... coupled with a loss in consumer confidence prompted this move...

Should give all the old D600 owners a massive discount for all the inconvenience they've had to face...

Direct link | Posted on Oct 8, 2013 at 11:37 UTC as 205th comment
On Nikon 1 AW1 preview (587 comments in total)
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OldZorki: RX100+ underwater housing (50m rated) is still cost less, then this camera. And really can be used for diving.
Nikon 1 still heavy and not pocketable, hard to see it as "beach camera".
Picture quality will probably better the GoPro, but not nearly as handy. And costs many times more.

It was just announced... how can you already tell that's its "unsurpassed"...? Have you tested a preproduction unit as yet to make these claims...? Considering the AW1 sensor & AF module are imported from the J3 that doesn't exactly inspire great levels of confidence... because the J3 struggles a bit to acquire AF in low light...

Besides the RX100's underwater casing is great... would definitely trust Sony's offering as compared to this AW1

Direct link | Posted on Sep 19, 2013 at 10:30 UTC

Why can't Nikon introduce a new 1 series camera utilizing Sony's 20 MP 1" Exmor R sensor...?! Or could it possibly be that Sony simply won't license the rights to that sensor to Nikon at the present time...?!

Direct link | Posted on Sep 19, 2013 at 09:22 UTC as 28th comment | 3 replies
On Preview:canon-eos-70d (1311 comments in total)
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chouster: What can be seen here is that the Nikon D7100 is the best APS-C camera.

@ chouster - your statement even contradicts DXO's findings... where apparently the D5200 is the "best APS-C DSLR" ... but Nikon's probably got DXO on their payroll...

Nobody's denying the D7100 is good ... but give credit where credit is due... the 70D is easily as good... if not better...

Even dpreview's studio sample scene clearly demonstrates that the 70D captures practically the same amount of detail plus retains it better all the way up the ISO ladder...

Look at all 4 peoples face in the test scene... the 70D definitely delivers the cleaner, less noisy set of images...

Posted on Sep 12, 2013 at 14:21 UTC
On Preview:canon-eos-70d (1311 comments in total)
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James Booba: hm 70D doesnt even comes close to a nex-6 in higher ISO ... meh.

So it would be safe to assume Sony is light years ahead of Canon in sensor design... best solution lets stop buying Canon cameras... :)

Its obvious even to the untrained eye... Sony is applying NR in their RAW files... Look at the sketch of the old bearded man... Canon & Nikon's samples are much sharper...

Posted on Sep 12, 2013 at 11:03 UTC
On Preview:canon-eos-70d (1311 comments in total)

Very impressive noise performance... clearly leaps & bounds ahead of the 60D / T5i ... JPEG definitely looks cleaner than the D7100 ... albeit ever so slightly softer... D7100 image looks speckled with chroma noise for some reason...

Posted on Sep 12, 2013 at 09:39 UTC as 178th comment
On DxOMark tests Canon EOS 70D sensor and lenses article (133 comments in total)
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CNY_AP: What I don't understand is that the Nikon 5200 for example is highly rated by DxoMark, but when I look at high ISO shots in the Comparometer tool, I think the various Canon 18MP sensors fare well against the Nikon (in terms of detail retention versus noise).

Better example - Nikon D3200 is very highly rated in DxoMark, but in the T5i review, it looks awful. The review says so, not just me:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-t5i/canon-t5iA.HTM

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Camera-Sensor-Database/Nikon/D3200
http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Camera-Sensor-Database/Canon/EOS-700D

So I wonder if DxoMark doesn't measure sensor performance correctly (wrong methodology). For example, maybe Nikon simply blurs their images more, hiding noise, but losing detail.

Or maybe Canon has superior firmware/processing which overcomes/hides their sensors' inferiority. But in the end, if the images look the same, what does it matter.

And exactly how do they carry out this analysis of the demosaiced RAW files...? By applying their in-house reconstructive interpolation algorithms...? Or do they strip the sensor of its internal circuitry and scrutinize its SNR ratio through external amplification...?

Direct link | Posted on Sep 4, 2013 at 19:52 UTC
On DxOMark tests Canon EOS 70D sensor and lenses article (133 comments in total)
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lensberg: DXO might serve as the holly grail for the average Nikon fan... but their "supposed tests" hardly serve as any meaningful purpose in determining which camera / brand is the best from an overall performance point of view...

DXO's only real purpose seems to be that of a proxy for Nikon's marketing department... to give the average joe something "scientific" to go by... Plus they should add a camera quality score... something where Nikon's D600 / 800 would score abysmally... oil spots and dust galore...

Best method of determining which camera is best suited for you is to read a broad spectrum of reviews across the web to formulate your own nonbiased opinions... Or just walk into any camera store and get a first hand account for which body suits your best...

@ Shunda77 - The D5100 / D7000 may outclass Canon's previous generation 18 MP sensors - but there's no way that can be said for Canon's new 20 MP sensor...

Canons new dual pixel sensor is definitely on par with the Toshiba variant found in the D7100... and quite frankly it looks slightly cleaner at high ISO's in RAW... I'm not the only one saying it - camera review websites that have conducted initial tests are confirming it...

Granted Canon isn't as good as Nikon where dynamic range is concerned... but come on, the differences aren't anywhere nearly as drastic as earlier years...

@ Collie Camp - 5 years ago wasn't the D300 considered better than the Canon 50D ... Why would Nikonians have made a comment like mine...? Was there some underlying uncertainty that the D300 wasn't as good as claimed to be...?

Direct link | Posted on Sep 4, 2013 at 14:11 UTC
On DxOMark tests Canon EOS 70D sensor and lenses article (133 comments in total)

DXO might serve as the holly grail for the average Nikon fan... but their "supposed tests" hardly serve as any meaningful purpose in determining which camera / brand is the best from an overall performance point of view...

DXO's only real purpose seems to be that of a proxy for Nikon's marketing department... to give the average joe something "scientific" to go by... Plus they should add a camera quality score... something where Nikon's D600 / 800 would score abysmally... oil spots and dust galore...

Best method of determining which camera is best suited for you is to read a broad spectrum of reviews across the web to formulate your own nonbiased opinions... Or just walk into any camera store and get a first hand account for which body suits your best...

Direct link | Posted on Sep 4, 2013 at 09:37 UTC as 19th comment | 8 replies
On Preview:canon-eos-70d (1311 comments in total)
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igor_s: It seems that the 70D owners will have described everything before the review appears. Actually, 70D = 60D + on-chip PDAF, which is the only thing to investigate given the available sensor performance test results from DxOMark.

And what is the D7100 exactly... a refurbished D7000 + a Toshiba sensor - the OPLF...?

Since DXO seems to have been in a tearing hurry to demean the 70D ... why don't they at least provide conclusive samples or evidence of their testing to substantiate the random numbers they put forth... Just to add an ounce of credibility to their name...

Posted on Sep 3, 2013 at 09:20 UTC
On Preview:canon-eos-70d (1311 comments in total)
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igor_s: Well, I think now everybody will admit that the 70D loses to D5x00 and D7x00 in SNR, the difference being, at my sight, 0.5 to 2/3 stops ISO. Is seems to be on par with 60D, which Canon predicted.The sales will depend on how useful its new AF system is.

I was actually comparing the RAW samples here on Dpreview, plus imaging resource & ephotozine - The later two especially show that the 70D has a clear advantage in high ISO image quality.

To be absolutely honest I don't fully trust the veracity of cameralabs samples... and this apples to numerous cameras across the board that Gordon reviews...

Posted on Aug 31, 2013 at 09:06 UTC
On Preview:canon-eos-70d (1311 comments in total)
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igor_s: Well, I think now everybody will admit that the 70D loses to D5x00 and D7x00 in SNR, the difference being, at my sight, 0.5 to 2/3 stops ISO. Is seems to be on par with 60D, which Canon predicted.The sales will depend on how useful its new AF system is.

Something is seriously wrong with DXO's testing methodology... 5D III was cleaner than D800 at anything above ISO 1600 ... The 6D was cleaner than the D600 and now this... but they seem to always favor Nikon completely irrespective of real world results / usage...

The 70D easily looks as clean, if not cleaner at high iso's compared to the D7100 - scrutinizing RAW & JPEG's side by side...

If you or DXO can honestly state that the 70D is "noisier" than the D7100 than there is either something wrong with your eyes or mine...

Alas wish there was some other alternate sensor testing website to at least provide us with a second unbiased opinion...

Posted on Aug 30, 2013 at 21:00 UTC
On Preview:canon-eos-70d (1311 comments in total)

A hypothetical argument... I wonder how much DXO will score this new Canon sensor...

I'm guessing about...

Color Depth - 23.6 bits
Dynamic Range - somewhere between 12.5 - 13 evs
Low-Light ISO - 1150

All scores lower than the D7100... since traditionally according to them, they never mark Canon higher than their Nikon counterparts... Wonder if I'll be proven wrong...

Posted on Aug 15, 2013 at 10:44 UTC as 274th comment | 3 replies
On Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ70 Sample Images article (69 comments in total)

Quite frankly the image quality is one step short of horrible... even a point & shoot like Sony's WX 60 / 80 which utilizes a 16 MP sensor is miles ahead in terms of IQ and noise control...

Direct link | Posted on Aug 14, 2013 at 10:21 UTC as 19th comment | 1 reply
On Preview:canon-eos-70d (1311 comments in total)
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Frank_NZ: Like to throw in an unofficial competition for supporters of this site. No prizes to be awarded but here it is for your thoughts.

What do you think the final rating from dp review will be for the Canon 70D ?

For the record, my guess is 87%.

I do not know any of the staff or reviewers of this website so do not expect to be as close as some of you out there. Closing date for entries soon. Good luck.

Probably 85% ... after all everyone, wants to keep it competitive with its arch enemy the D7100 ... :)

Posted on Aug 14, 2013 at 10:18 UTC
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