Chris62: No reason to buy for reasonable customers.Expensive camera with fixed lens means in case any camera damage the expensive fixed lens aso goes to the trash.If price is higher the camera lens must be detachable.
There are some flat power zoom lenses 24-70 eqv for mirrorless bothfor MFT or NX or Sony NEX system and there are pancakes primes sometimes great optically so such cameras with much larger sensor area can be placed in pocket too but in general I never go with camera in the pocket because I can forget about it and accidentally the one can be destroyed:)
Ok if somebody likes smalll and expensive compact fixed lens camera can buy it for me no problem - but I will not buy such camera. I experienced damaged compact camera (Canon) , so no more. I do not like lens wasting.
"The result... since I have my RX100 M3 I have taken photos I would definitely have not had if I would not have bought this camera.
So... for me there is a reason to buy... and I still consider myself a reasonable customer too :-)"
I understand - thera some Pros for small pocket camera.I also have one but not so expensive to not be wish when camera some day will fail....
There are so many mirroless cameras not much bigger but much better and usually lens life is much longer so fixed lens means wasted money.
fevan: How does it compare to the Oly em10?
Comapre DX surface area to 4/3 surface area - these are the numbers.
Dissapointed camera - not much better than G5/G6 - next year will be far behind the competition.
No reason to buy for reasonable customers.Expensive camera with fixed lens means in case any camera damage the expensive fixed lens aso goes to the trash.If price is higher the camera lens must be detachable.
No possibility to change lens for such amount of money?No!It means:Camera damaged - fixed lens is also in trash - it is not economic and not ecologic.I won't buy such cameras.
Nikon 1 V* shold have an option for such lens.Why they do not design similar megazoom lens for N1?
If front/back focus is the issue than it is a toy other parameters get completely unimportant..Even the best sensor in the world will not help - pictures will be soft.
RamseyK: What do you guys think about JPEG output smoothing out skin and grass due to noise reduction? I don't have the camera. I'd like to buy it but every time I look at samples, I can't stand the oil painting noise reduction.. Raw looks good though.
It is strange to give such subject opinions.If you claim that NX30 is poor worse - than give the proof.The proof means the same picture in the same conditions the same eksposition ,lens class attached and post processing.I am technical guy and I hate comparisons apples to cakes.I also used DSLRs but I hate bulky cameras.NX30 is for me compromise - very good handling - it can be transported in the pocket when pancake installed and sensor offers 20 MP pictures.Yes I know 10 MP is very often OK but sometimes I need to do a crop and than it is good to have more piksels.
MFT I do not accept it is overpriced (as a system) - remember F2,8 in MFT is only F5,6 in FF terms for DOF.DX is between them.It means kit lens for mFT should be F2,8-F4 - look to the specification MFT kit lens is the same aperture as for Sony A7 FF camera!!!
Roy LaFaver: The A7M2 with IBIS has pretty much saved my hobby as I advance in years. And I have all my old Nikon glass still shining. I'm sure this new A7R replacement is a fabulous camera, but too many pixels for me and too many dollars. Still, I bet a lot of people will love it. I can imagine IBIS is really going to help all those people who have contempt for tripods.
Pixels number is OK - in situation when prime used such sensor allows for digitital zooming it is great.But the price of course is high I agree.The good point is that after 2 years this modern camra will be outfashioned and much cheaper:)
tbull1948: I own the Samsung NX 30 this camera is amazing. only problem I have is that there is no Zoom lens higher than 50-10 telephoto lens and the price is very expensive. I have the 18-300 zoom lens and it is not good for long distance shots, I heard that Samsung is working on a 18-300 lens. hope it happens..
I wish rather 16-300 (as Tamron did for Nicon) and it could be great to have 100-500.NX30 body is DSLR like and convenient enough also for telephoto lens.
ANd one thing more - compare the brightness of images.Some cameras presents ISO 1600 which is similar to ISO 800 other camera - I think it is marketing trick!
Did you analysed this test results? Look again to noise part.I can see more resolution - the noice cancelling destroys resolution - change any camera to Fuji X-T1 and observe smooth no noice but also no detail.You can change ISO jpg/raw noce reduction on/off and compare.I do not see any competition advantage if you can see OK maybe we have different sight and monitors..The price? I depends, I've paid below 400$ (from shop exposition but no remarks.).Sony A6000 costs over 700$
MFT cameras are not competition for DX IMO at all.I prefer DX lenses DOF possibilities are better in lower price.
Looking to DIRECT comparison i.e here:http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/samsung-nx30/10we can see that competition is not better and much more expensive at this moment so I can live wit worse viewfinder but having some lens instead of.
Chris62: This camera is science fiction - never seen in the shop and Canon 7d Mk2 announced neraly in the same time is on the shelve in every shop with cameras.Even from internet "shops" zero, yes zero offersfor NX1 in my country.
I do not understand such way of "selling".
You know Canon, Nikon, Sony Panasonic do not ask such way they offer cameras in the shops and even sell them even in 2 or 3 times higher prices...We can say more they sell not only cameras they sell all equipment needed.Remember VHS? It wasn't the best system but it was popula-r why?
This camera is science fiction - never seen in the shop and Canon 7d Mk2 announced neraly in the same time is on the shelve in every shop with cameras.Even from internet "shops" zero, yes zero offersfor NX1 in my country.
HX50/60 have exposure compensation wheel - this not?Maybe the screen is the reason?
EVF is nice - Panasonic TZ60/70 has a competitor.IMO Sony has better build in flash - Panasonic's design is terrible with flash fixed in the body.The question is what way the viefinder willl be activated - in two steps as in s RX100?
fuxicek: who needs so many megapixels?.... I used to have Fujifilm F70EXR, 10 mpix camera and there was some mode for shooting 5 mpix only and when I compared original 10mpix picture and the 5mpix resized to 10mpix, viewing it at 1600 percent magnification, the resized photo looked much better.. I never went back to 10 mpix :)
sorry for my (cz)english ;)
You know Fuji is "special" - they advertise 10 MP but in reality it is 5 MP when you comapare to competition.The profit was lower noise but noice/resolution is always compromoise and one can not be evaluated without other.
Dougbm_2: Maybe it is all the camera most of us really need. If only it was a 1inch sensor.
I am afraid that not in this size.Look to the Sony RX10 if you want 1" sensorand F2,8 lens but forget about pocket size.
For me the key point is AF speed and its exatitude.Other mirrorless are worse in this aspect.Even DSLR in this price range can be worse ff/bf issue can be problem still.Size? Very nice size considering the lensesn predicted to using with this body.Sensor size? Yes DX but also Nikon D7200 and Canon 7d are DX (Canon even smaller crop 1,6)Samsung sensor is the only DX-BSI on the market now.BSI means a lot it and is is prooved in compacts with small sensors.EVF comapring to DSLR optiucal is only functional thing.Personally I like EVF insteado of optical.EVF is always clean and simulates picturelook before shutter using.No mirror means less schock problems so longer shutter times can be used.And 4k movies - it is point where NX1 can compete with Panasonic GH* .As we can see if we take in the consideration most important for photographers aspects as AF speed, resolution, 4k movies it is technically the best camera on the market in this price range.
Chris62: Canon's development is to slow.Now young in photo market Samsung is ahead.The only reason to keep Canon is older system so more mature - many accesories atc. and of course if it is must have mirror presence.And this mirror probably is a STRONG brake for VERY POOR EOS-M SYSTEM.
But people like mirrorles cameras every year more and more....
Boydster first try on and compare - than write opinions.
NX1 produces 28 MP files 15 fps and Canon 20 MP only .so why you are comparing buffers?And in AF test in lens direction NX1 wins with sharp pictures number.Canon wins in perpendicular to lens axis direction but frankly speaking this is much easier for photgrapher than to face direction.OK NX1 had problem with focusing during zooming but I think it will be solved.