Canon's development is to slow.Now young in photo market Samsung is ahead.The only reason to keep Canon is older system so more mature - many accesories atc. and of course if it is must have mirror presence.And this mirror probably is a STRONG brake for VERY POOR EOS-M SYSTEM.
But people like mirrorles cameras every year more and more....
Mirrorless Cameras every year are better and better.At this moment for me the best cameras are Sony A7 II and Samsung NX1.But in the future....we will see.
onlooker: At ISO 1600 (4_BETASAMPLE_ISO1600_SAM_0170) NR seems very heavy handed.
Comparing color noise on sensors with 12 MP difference? Be serious.We can comapareFuji to Samsung if Fuji crreates 28 MP sensor but at this moment you have choise or better resolution or maybe less color noise it is up to you - what do you prefer.But as far I know less noise in Fuji is achieved rather RAW denoising method and resolution is worse than Bayer sensors present and ISO is lower than producer claims or lower than competition so you compare sometimes not ISO 3200 to 3200 but i.e. ISO 2600 to ISO 4000 and get wrong conclusions.Samples presented can not be any base for evaluation - comparisons can be done in the same conditions with the same method and the same class optics.
Fuji 16 MP? miles ahead? ha ha sensor 12MP less and miles ahead :) Sony? yes A7R is great in resolution but it is FF 36 MP not DX 28MP and probably with less efficient AF system.Maybe A7? HArd to judge now.A6000? I doubt but we will see in comparison tests.
Processing? Personal preferences - adjustable thiong nothing more so it can not be a base for camera evaluating.RAW - this is the real power of camera and processing is up to you.
These "changes" should be standard when camera occured on the market.
Good design but I wish 24 mm range maybe it will be in Stylus 2? Who knows?.
Too much denoising and... Denoising in RAW? Why?RAW is not RAW now...
SergeyMS: in my opinion, manual zoom is more convenient.
Yes and no.In movie mode smooth zooming is well seen and manual stepping zoom looks not nice on screen.FZ100 is still/movie equipment in one.
In full size we can see strange thing - smaller sesnor cameras Olympus/Panasonic deliver better quailty.
For me 2/3" sensor is optimal compromise for compact zoom camera.Beside sensor a camera is equipped with lens - some people forget it.Lens depends on sensor size so properties of camera with small and big sesnor differ each other.I like my Panasonic LX7 - the only issue for me is lack of bulid in EVF - optional is great but not convenient i rather impossible to use it when camera is transported in the pocket so detaching is the necessity and for optional flash too.X30 for me would be OK with this 2/3" sensor but optics should be better - wider (24-120 mm) and faster (F1,4-F2) - should be possible with such size - am I right?
I like also macro in my compact camera very often needed.
And one quwstion - what about quality? LX7 so far is perfect any issues.Fuji had some issues with older made in China cameras.
5100? Why? We know the Nikon 5100.The cameras names are horrible very often repeated.
Is it impossible to use unique names?
Another simple body.When the most advanced NX1?
In test scene we can see right down corner of the picture completely unsharp and on the left side is much better.It means poor quality.Right mounted lens on camera should give the same sharpness in all 4 corners.
nofumble: Supersize your sensor please
Very nice and modern camera.Two types of stabilisation, great viewfinder, Fast AF (- 4EV ?!!!) and I hope precise too, built in flash, rotated screen, good choise of lens and accesories, smalll size - all featrures required for many photgoraphers - not amateurs only.The only question is... Is it japan qulaity or chinesse as Fuji?
flektogon: Still the Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX7 seems to be the best camera in this section.
I agree-> LX7 is the best.
This is great compact camera. The only one with such wide angle of view and so fast lens.The only thing I wish is better construction of lens - I must be careful when I am in crowd to avoid potential damage and I wish to have built in viewfinder.Optional LVF2 is not compact solution. I mean it is a trouble to put camera into the pocket when mounted and no flash using possibility then.
Also I do not need bigger sensor as some people here.Why? For less than 400$ you can buy GX1 with MFT sensor is it large enough?Oh yes, it is not not so compact with zoom lens?Of course not! It is impossible! We can have large sensor with large lens or small sensor with small lens (and much faster) The choice is yours.
The picture quality is nice, movies also, operation is also quick.Of course everything still can be improved.The writing speed is to slow when using series modes. Faster SD's do not improve that it must be changed in newer model.
Chris62: Some people compare this sensor to Sony. In my opinion to make such comparison it is very important to equalize the resolution of samples to get eny conlusoion.Sony's sensors are 16 and 24 MP and NX200 has 20 MP so....
Generally results are similar probably my NX10 will be replaced by its succesor NX20 or maybe profi version NX1 who knows but...more important will be accesories and lens offer.I still can't buy 16 mm/2,4 in my country.....For m4/3 system in the shops is everything - cameras, lenses, EVF, flashes adapters etc. - why not for NX? Stupid lens hood for 30 mm i had to make by yourself!
Yes I agree.What we are reading here it is nothing more as stupid "war"of marketing people.They know that many people is not well known with digital cameras technical issues so they are posting whatever to point out "better" products.IMO it is not enogh to sell the product - more important is to keep the customers satisfied - than tmaybe hey will buy newer models. Not satisfied customer for sure will go out....
Some people compare this sensor to Sony. In my opinion to make such comparison it is very important to equalize the resolution of samples to get eny conlusoion.Sony's sensors are 16 and 24 MP and NX200 has 20 MP so....