LMBC: This is why I feel that Canon is trying to be the new KODAK company.
Since 2002 I have been loyal to Canon, and since my first Canon G2, I invested in several Canon Lens, a Canon 20D and Canon 7D which I still have.
In early 2015 I was hoping that Canon released a camera that could be an 7D upgrade, so that I can use it also for video, but I was wrong....
I checked for other cameras that could be great both for photo & video, like the Panasonic, Sony & Samsung, and decided for the latest, and bought Samsung NX1 for 1200 EUR !!!!! and 700 EUR for the lens.
Since then I have: 28 mpixel, 4K video, 1080p 120 fps, great ISO performance and a great lens.
Do I still use my canon 7D? No...Why?Because Samsung NX1 is so much better than my 7D in (almost) every way.
And I feel sad because all other brands are coming with great products (like SONY) and I still want to use my Canon Glass in the future, and also because I know that Samsung is leaving the market, and I hate Samsung for that.
The pros are the latest to make any change...
Changing their system always have risks and they need to make huge investments.
You can't compare cameras that cost 5000 USD to cameras that cost 1000 USD.
But you can, and should compare cameras that are on the same price range which have so much differences in performance. And if that cameras which cost 1000 USD have some of the specs as good (or better) as the 5.000 cameras do, makes you think what on god Canon is doing....
I love Canon but I don't see any product (that I can afford) that makes me wish I have, not because they aren't good, but because others are making it better and at the same price...
Donnie G: Want to produce 4K video on the cheap, complete with all of those wonderful overheating moments, then buy any 4K capable Sony mirrorless ILC. Want to produce and also star in your very own 1080 HD video, complete with pro level audio, AF, and zoom that you control remotely from your smartphone without the need for assistance from anybody and with total reliability from your kit? Canon, and only Canon can give you that. Pro level selfie stills and videos are easy to produce with this new Canon kit. Nobody else has anything like it at or even near its very affordable price point. :))
Canon has the brand name, but if they continue such "great" improvements it won't last for long...
My point is what @TrojMacReady clearly states...
After 6 years of "development" Canon releases the 7D mkii with just minor improvements? Every Canon camera that I bought had great selling arguments, but now, to put it simply: They don't!
Yes, 7D as 7d mkII still do great photos, but with my Samsung NX1 I cant do much more than Canon offer me, for the same price...
You live in the past...
KODAK was also great...
This is why I feel that Canon is trying to be the new KODAK company.
Lightroom 6.2.1 is also tremendous buggy. They did the impossible: Two terrible versions in a row...
Back to 6.1.1
obsolescence: I would like to suggest another product category: RAW Conversion / Processing software. I think it's such an important component in the workflow for high quality imaging.
Samsung 16-50S Soft???? I have a Canon 24-105 F4L, a 70-200 F4L and a Canon 50mm 1.8 and I can say for sure that Samsung 16-50S is the sharpest lens that I have...
creaDVty: For innovation, I think the A7RII should have been the winner. No one had ever conceived of a non-native lens focusing as quickly as it does on the A7RII, plus stabilization.
Don't agree... A7R II has tremendous specs but:
You have in a $1200 body:- 4k internal recording- BSI 28mp Crop sensor- Hybrid AF system with 205 phase-detect points covering 90% of the frame- h265 (the lack of software/hardware support is just temporary)- Super fast processor- Great user interface with touch control- Wifi with AC support + bluetooth- SDXC (UHS-I/II)- 15 fps- 4k
Finnally... Samsung NX1 has some recognition...
Bought it for video but now it's my #1 Camera for photo & Video...
Bye bye Canon
Who cares? NX1 is way better and I already have it for several months...
StevenE: I'd be willing to give this a shot, but h.265 as the only video codec? really? no thanks right now, too much trouble
If you have a 4k hvec tv it would play the h265 without problems but it will struggle to play 4k h264.The video quality of NX1 is just fantastic.
I'm a Canon guy from Canon g2, Canon 20D and Canon 7d. Now I also have a Samsung NX1.
Prairie Pal: This in part is why Nikon is announcing enhanced firmware upgrade offers. I am envious of anyone entering into the exciting world of photography today without the burden of being heavily invested in the "dinosaur brands"
Lassoni: Are your comments based on using your own NX1?
I'm not a Samsung fanboy: I have been using Canon for the past 12 years, in which I have invested in 3 cameras (Canon G2, Canon 20D & Canon 7) several lens (24-105 L, 70-200 L, f1.8 & others) & flash.
I can say clearly that the NX1 is the camera that impressed me more: Fast focus, Fantastic IQ, Fantastic Video.
I had to learn doing things differently: - EVF & LCD and be used in different situations;- The commands are different from Canon 7D, and I didn't liked them in the first week. Now it's natural.- The touch focus feature is just great in so many situations. Now that I have it, I really miss it with Canon 7D.
Yes, the conversion from my h265 to Prores is a pain in the ass but the results are worth the wait.
And yes, my LG 4K TV can play natively h265 videos from NX1.
I just love this camera. It's like Nike: "Use it"
nicolaiecostel: Will it properly focus now ? In the DPR review of the NX1, the tracking ability is only superficially tested in good light while TheCameraStore TV guys found it difficult to achieve perfect focus even in stills ..
Firmware v1.01 had some problems with low light but with firmware v1.1 it's much, much better.
It's at least on pair with my Canon 7D, if not even better.
I still have both cameras (NX1 16-50 f2.8 + 7D 24-105 L & others) and now 98% of my photos are taken with NX1.
JavaJones: I'm really struggling to understand the justification for a book module given the response to the face recognition issue: "'Face recognition is very important to some', he says, 'but irrelevant to others.'" So, kind of like a book module then?
I'd be shocked if making expensive photo books is more popular and of greater interest than face recognition, which can be useful to *anyone* who takes photos of people Anyone who says they have no use for it is likely to change their mind if they get a chance to work with a *well-implemented* system.
If Adobe is thinking about professionals and their cell phone pics with the geotagging module, clearly they're not so concerned with targeting a minority of the market. How many people are really editing their *cell phone* pics in LR?
My guess is they made a deal with Blurb, let's say 15% of all revenue from books made in LR4. Blurb gets promotion, Adobe gets extra cash. We get a module useful only to a minority of people. Win!
I agree 100%!
For people like me with a huge photo library the facial recognition is a must! I gave up tagging my family!
Maybe i use lightroom just for adjusting some important photos and use other software packages to manage my photo library.
I'm willing to try further iPhoto or even Aperture....
I'm very disappointed with the two new features...