Douglas F Watt: Clearly the best m4/3 sensor performance ever, and better in low light than Nikon D7000, Canon TS3i, Sony A65, and even the Pentax K-5. However, let's not get too carried away, as this is just the latest manifestation of the REAL story in DP, namely, sensor and (to a lesser extent) software evolution to improve low light performance. Systems have been, in that regard, leapfrogging each other for years, and although this is an impressive jump (one of the bigger ones for sure), someone will jump over this sensor's low light performance. Keep in mind that the Sony A65 is probably better in low light than the full frame Sony A900 (admittedly neither is a low light phenom). In 10 years, if one extrapolates from current trends, one might predict we will have APS-C sensors in the 36+ megapixel range with at least decent to good low light resolution in the 3200-6400 ISO range.
True, but for a lot of people ( and a lot who shoot Olympus) there is a point where a camera reaches where most will say " this is perfect" or " good enough". I have never cared for the rush for the latest and the greatest and to do it just because they can. I think the more the improve and the more expensive they get, the smaller the market for said camera's is going to be. I sold my E-5 for this camera. Not so much the ISO performance, but the performance in such a small weather sealed package. 36mp? $2500+ bodies? You can have them. This body is going to last me for years, and is going to go with me EVERYWHERE I go. With the 4/3 adapter I will get with my pre order I can still mount the BEST glass Olympus makes if I need it. Maybe not a pro camera BUT more than capable of professional results, and that works just fine for me. :)
NoFunBen: The JPG images are great, the raw ones only average.What ever olympus is doing to process the JPG's may be the best in the industry. It takes the noise away from jpg's like only after market raw programs could do in the past.if you have any other 4/3 camera it is time up grade.
I have shot JPEG with every Olympus I have owned, and they have always had amazing JPEG processing. I have had comments about how they like how I did this and how I did that and it was never me it was always the camera. My sister and my nephew both shoot Nikon and have asked why my photo's colors seem better than theirs. ( neither consider themself to be a photographer by any means). I just say " well that's why I shoot Olympus" A question both had asked me more than once. I only shoot RAW when it for someone other than me and I need to have the control in lightroom.
Pete_Murrell: I have only one question that may not be answerable by people in this forum however I will ask it anyway.I currently use 4/3rds stuff and obviously I love it. I was just wondering if anyone has heard rumours about Olympus releasing a camera with this sensor in the 4/3 lens mount range (Maybe an E-6 or 7)? ... because I can't see myself investing in a whole new range of lenses but based on this small snippet, this sensor is pretty special. Fingers crossed. Can't wait for the full review.
All they have said is that the E-5 successor is in the works. I'd imagine they will use this sensor and the 5 point IS system in it. Maybe upgraded focus. I shoot with an E-5 right now but am in the process of selling it. The idea of getting smaller with that lightning focus and high ISO has me drooling.
Abtin: Does anyone know if the In body image stabilisation is compatible with any lens? I'm looking forward to connecting some of my old nikon lenses to this body.
Olympus's IS will work with any lens you mount to the camera. That's the beauty of their in body system.
ezradja: the 3200 iso sample image is not in the same 2012 standard quality. Just peek at Sony NEX 5N/7 and/or Fujifilm X100 and/or Canon Powershot G1X and they have better noise and details. Sorry but there's no big improvement on micro third system while other system has right now.
Until you can see real life samples side bye side how can you honestly make a statement like this?
bobbarber: @ J2GPhoto, I agree with you, but you forgot to figure in the cost of the full-frame lenses, which are much more expensive than four thirds lenses. So the total cost of the FF system compared to 4/3 is even higher than you make it appear.
@ Anastigmat, FF iis not better than m43 for most uses. Most people print at 8x10. m43 makes just as good prints as FF at 8x10 under most lighting conditions. It's like the Ferrari argument that alxdava makes. Who cares that your Ferarri does 200 km/hr if you spend all of your time driving where the speed limit is 50 km/hr? And who cares that your FF has clean ISO 12,800, if you rarely shoot over ISO 1600, which describes a lot of us?
I was only comparing body cost's. The cost size and weight of FF is more than enough to steer me to m 4/3. I have only had the need for 3200 once, and to be honest was not thrilled with the results my E-5 gave me. But I've read clean.... CLEAN 6400. I'm good.
Anastigmat: Anyone who expects good high ISO performance from a sensor that is half the size of a full frame model is a fool, and a fool and his money will soon part company. If high ISO performance is of paramount importance, look instead at full frame cameras like the Canon 5DMKIII and Nikon D4.
Anyone who thinks it will be on par with a FF may not be too bright. BUT it has achieved much better performance than many have claimed it ever would. Clean ISO up to 6400 for $999 compared to $2500 - $6000? 6400 is more than I'll ever need. So I'll save my $$$ and carry an E-M5 and a half a dozen lenses in a bag 1/2 the size I carry now thank you.
gl2k: Does ANYONE still shoot during daytime ?
According to all those tests and high iso talking I assume that the photographic community has turned to a nocturne society.
At least I do about 95% of my photographic work under good to fair light conditions. Am I a dying breed ? Seems so ...
No you ARE NOT a dying breed in fact you do most of your shooting in good light. However you are probably one of us in the minority that are not sheep. Following the latest and the greatest with the most MP and highest ISO. In the film days 800 was pretty fast film, 1600 was pro grade. I honestly don't recall Perry's drugs selling 3200. I don't recall anyone bitching then the way they do now. Todays digital camera have far exceeded film in many ways. Yet people line up with money in hand because it's new it has to be better and I NEED IT!!!
Earthlight: I hope that Sony will buy the Camera business, make the OM-D a little bigger, a proper size camera, slap a full frame sensor in it and sell sell sell those in huge numbers.
Nikon and Canon need even more competition. Instead of Canikon we would have Casonykon.
Sony is superior to Olympus? Really? In what way? Because they threw about a bunch of #%*@ to see what sticks? Sony seems like a company with no direction, or should I say every direction. Olympus glass is still superior to ANYTHING Sony has out. People still get so hung up on spec's they refuse to look at the bigger picture, like REAL LIFE use and results. I've been an Olympus shooter since I bought digital. Your going to have to pry my Olympus out of my dead hands. I'd be willing to bet if you could shoot with a Canon, Nikon, Olympus, Sony, Pentax without knowing what camera is what. No names or distinguishing marks. A lot of the Olympus, small sensor, 4/3 bashers would be very surprised to find out just how much they like the Olympus when the makers of said cameras are revealed. But so many are programed to think the BIG names they see on T.V are superior in every way.
mcd3: Anyone that has owned an OM camera will love this. To all the detractors, you have no idea.
Lets hope the image quality is great
There are samples floating around already. WOW comes to mind. :)
Did I overlook something? Does it have ANY type of weather sealing? If not then I would not compare it to the 7D, D300's or anything else in that price range that does. Personally I am looking forward to the Olympus release next week. The latest leaked photo's it looks bad ass and if it's weather sealed with a 16mp sensor at 9fps and everything else that's being leaked out. THAT is the camera for me. Faster focus than the EP3? Seriously? That thing is lightning fast already. OM for me....maybe :)
Is it me or does this site always seem to throw in a little dig against what they don't seem to like?
"both lenses that WE THINK make more sense on APS-C than the Micro Four Thirds format."
I cannot wait to see this thing. I don't think there is or should be any doubt it will have a 4/3 sensor. What sense would it make to release a new camera that has no lenses made for it? It will be micro mount and with the standard 4/3 adapter I think it will work just as well as an E-5 with the 4/3 lenses. (I hope and think this was their goal) I think Olympus realized they could not make the true m 4/3 bodies focus the larger lenses so they bumped up the body size to make it all work, two systems in one. This way they do not leave us 4/3 users high and dry. This just might be the camera I had hoped the m4/3's would be. We shall see.
How many full frame do you people really think Canon and Nikon sell compared to their crop sensor camera's? 50-1? 100-1? More? So why on earth would Olympus sink the $$$ into a FF camera? People have knocked Olympus for years saying the sensors are too small. They have too much noise, blah blah blah. 99.9% of my shooting is done at low ISO, or with a flash. My sensor has never limited me, EVER. Oly's are too small yet Nikon hits the micro scene with?????? Oh an even smaller sensor. I have not read too many people bitching that that sensor sucks and is too small like we've read about our Oly's forever. I just read a tweet by Zack Arias about how excited he is the Fuji Pro has multiple exposures. E-30/ E-620 3 years ago. There are those praising the lit buttons on the Nikon D4. E-620 3 year ago. What Olympus needs is better marketing, PERIOD. They make and have always made great camera's. People just don't realize it, slanted sites like this one don't really help either.
bdcolen: The sad reality is Olympus is DOA - and I say that with a bag full of Olympus equipment, including some of the best glass anyone other than Leica has produced in the past couple of decades. The slide began when the company bet on the 4/3 format, rather than APC or full-frame. Though its sensors produce terrific color fidelity, when it comes to resolving power and high iso performance they are no longer in the same league with Nikon, Canon, Panasonic, Sony, or Fuji. The "consumer products" division - photo equipment - has long been the tail that has incorrectly been perceived as wagging the Olympus dog, but now if Olympus survives at all as a camera company it will be as a producer of point and shoots.
Olympus is hardly DOA. If they come out with the PEN Pro like they say they are, it's going to blow away just about everything in it's class. With 19 plus lenses for m4/3 already on the market. I think they are going to make a strong comeback and make some noise.
I don't see Fuji buying Olympus. They just purchased another medical image company for $995million last week. If Olympus medical imagery division stays profitable, I find it hard to believe they would sell off the camera division. For those that are so appalled by these findings, you really need to take a good hard look out your door at all of the companies right in our own back yard that are run by crooks. Start with the banks. Reading through the other comments, people seem to have quickly forgotten how many companies were bailed out here in our own country. If the numbers I have read are accurate Olympus employs 35,000 people. Many feel that the Japanese government will not let them fall due to how big of a corporation they are. Here in the good ol U.S our companies are filled with crooks who mismanage their money and screwed the American people. But we saved em to prevent a bigger melt down didn't we? One way or another I think they will pull through this.