noyo

noyo

Lives in United Kingdom West Lothian, United Kingdom
Works as a Semi Pro
Has a website at http://www.noyo.co.uk/
Joined on May 18, 2010

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noyo: I can see that some business users that always upgrade to the latest releases may not notice any difference to the cost or perhaps may even be better off, if they use all the apps.

The problem is that you are locked in to whatever they serve up to you, good or bad, because if you stop paying you lose access and have nothing to show for years of investment. You can't skip a version. If you have a bad cash flow month and the banks aren't lending, you are in trouble.

The pricing is too crude too as choosing 1 app or all is not realistic to someone like me, a serious amateur/semi-pro still using CS2 & Lightroom 4.

Also, Cloud Computing is premature in many places in the UK as broadband speed is terrible (downstream <3Mb/s, upstream <1Mb/s). Uploading ONE 25MB raw file would take how many hours?

It means 'goodbye Adobe'. I guess individually I may be no great loss to them but there must be many more like me and that will add up.

@ Josh Maybe it wasn't an official comment but I did read somewhere that you could use the app for 12 months following cessation of payments. But maybe it was some of the misinformation that's going around.

Bottom line for me is that it is too costly, has too many if & buts and has too many strings attached in favour of Adobe and against users.

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 19:13 UTC
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noyo: I can see that some business users that always upgrade to the latest releases may not notice any difference to the cost or perhaps may even be better off, if they use all the apps.

The problem is that you are locked in to whatever they serve up to you, good or bad, because if you stop paying you lose access and have nothing to show for years of investment. You can't skip a version. If you have a bad cash flow month and the banks aren't lending, you are in trouble.

The pricing is too crude too as choosing 1 app or all is not realistic to someone like me, a serious amateur/semi-pro still using CS2 & Lightroom 4.

Also, Cloud Computing is premature in many places in the UK as broadband speed is terrible (downstream <3Mb/s, upstream <1Mb/s). Uploading ONE 25MB raw file would take how many hours?

It means 'goodbye Adobe'. I guess individually I may be no great loss to them but there must be many more like me and that will add up.

I haven't read everything there is to read on this but I did watch the official video & have considered the implications).

I also read the DPR articles including statements like 'New Product Innovation to be Delivered Exclusively Through Adobe Creative Cloud'. That seems clear & for me anything cloud based is not good.

Perhaps some expert out there can tell me what happens if I need to take a break from the monthly payments? Can I stop for a while and start up again when it suits me without any interruption to app usage? I think there is a 12 months limit on app usage after stopping.

What is there to stop me taking the subscription, getting all the apps and then stopping payments after only a month? I get the whole thing for one monthly payment? Can I pay again after 12 months and get all the upgrades, then stop after 1 payment again? I don't think so.

We need to be careful of taking what we read at face value and not thinking through the unwritten implications.

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 09:17 UTC

I can see that some business users that always upgrade to the latest releases may not notice any difference to the cost or perhaps may even be better off, if they use all the apps.

The problem is that you are locked in to whatever they serve up to you, good or bad, because if you stop paying you lose access and have nothing to show for years of investment. You can't skip a version. If you have a bad cash flow month and the banks aren't lending, you are in trouble.

The pricing is too crude too as choosing 1 app or all is not realistic to someone like me, a serious amateur/semi-pro still using CS2 & Lightroom 4.

Also, Cloud Computing is premature in many places in the UK as broadband speed is terrible (downstream <3Mb/s, upstream <1Mb/s). Uploading ONE 25MB raw file would take how many hours?

It means 'goodbye Adobe'. I guess individually I may be no great loss to them but there must be many more like me and that will add up.

Direct link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 20:11 UTC as 857th comment | 10 replies

I was initially as cynical as others here. If you want the best quality photos just get a proper camera and forget the contraptions. That's speaking as a photographer.

Speaking as a smartphone user, not everyone would want or see the need for a proper camera since the quality available from high end phones is stunning (for what they are). Sure there could be softness, chroma and distortion that a serious photographer might not tolerate but I can see a market for people who already have a smartphone and a scope. They may get shots with this they wouldn't otherwise get as they wouldn't go out and buy a whole camera system.

The device functionality and appeal could be improved by including a thread that would allow for tripod mounting without a scope.

Plus some attachments that would allow it to be mounted (without the scopes) on a car, bike, etc., making it simply a mounting device. 'We don't need another Hero'.

Direct link | Posted on Apr 28, 2013 at 09:34 UTC as 11th comment
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Meuh: None in scotland?

Yes. None in Scotland.

With the demise of Jacobs and Jessops there are no longer any significant specialist photographic high street retailers in any main Scottish town or city, which I find very sad.

The internet is great but I like to go into a store to handle and try things before I buy in a non pressured environment, everything from cameras to clothes & shoes, etc.

Of course there is Ffords of Beauly but they are far away in the Highlands and there are also some Calumets but I feel more pressured to buy in them. The concept of 'just looking' is viewed with suspicion and I get the feeling they can't be bothered if they think you are not going to buy straight away. I have bought some gear from them but they are also harder to get to.

And there are the sheds like PCWorld, Argos etc but the variety of stock and accessories they carry is limited.

Some enterprising entrepreneur should wake up to the fact that Scotland is a camera gear desert right now and jump into the void.

Direct link | Posted on Feb 15, 2013 at 12:28 UTC
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