Scotts Photographs: The reason jpeg alternatives have such a rough time, IMHO, is that the majority of casual camera buyers (even those who buy DSLRs) and smartphone owners understand and like jpeg. They're happy with it... it does the job well enough. You can chatter at them all day long about lossless compression and bit depth and they just don't care. They can't tell the difference between a jpeg and another file format, just as most people can't tell the difference between 100/200/300 dpi prints. So, kudos to the programmer for developing something superior, but good luck getting it adopted as a replacement to the very popular, non-threatening, familiar jpeg, which is part of a whole universe of devices and software dedicated to it.
Correct. Dozens of million devices are based on JPEG. So each and every of them (or your comp, at least) will need a new converter to replace JPEG to the new format. So I doubt that new converter will be for free.
Yessss! That is what I am staying about! If the hood is covered with gold inside out, I am first in the line to take it! Even my Hassy Solara with extra-expensive wooden grip means nothing today! So do not call my friends from Brikk IDIOTS! They are not! They are a little bit a...a... off mainstream.
gmke: The previous batch of "serious" bridge cameras had 5/8 to 2/3 inch sensors (1:1.7 or 1:1.6). A few of them also had fast lenses, f1.8 to f2.5 on the Zuiko-baked versions, for example; so the fast lens to mitigate the not-so-great ISO performance was a welcome sop. These 1 inch sensors are about a stop and a half better at the sensor level, so they fit right between 4/3 and 2/3. What a surprise! What makes sense for the FZ1000 and the RX10 is the long reach of the zoom lens WITHOUT the f-stop fall-off typical of DSLR and ILC long reach zooms. At the short end, these cameras are out gunned by the DSLR and ILC sensor/lens combinations. At the long end, you can expect it to be the other way around because there are NO affordable long zooms with f4.0 at the long end.
Not bad but far from FZ200 Leica-made zoom. 25-600/2.8 lens is razor sharp thru the zoom at any F-stop. FZ200 is 2012 year model, still the best in its class.
Wolfgang Fieger: Amazing little camera! Full respect! If anything left now, Sony could maybe release a RX100s with 10 MP ;-)And another one:On the front right side I see some appropriate room for a dedicated AEL button, just somewhere next to the lens where one could easily engage it with the index finger.
forpetessake: Before people start cheering and celebrating, they need to understand that Sony (just like other manufacturers) mislead the ignorant public providing equivalent FLs and conveniently forgetting to convert the f-stops to FF as well. So they would advertise RX-10 lens as 24-200mm f/2.8 equivalent, while it's 24-200mm f/7.6 equivalent. Same with these lens designs, they provide an equivalent FL and 'forget' to provide an equivalent f-stop. If you look at the actual equivalent numbers, like the first design is 26-112mm f/5.1-9.0 you'll be a lot less jubilant. The lenses are quite dim, no faster than they were in the compact 35mm film cameras of yesteryear.
To Forpetessake. Do not be so warrior. You are wrong completely. Try to learn first, then post, try not look funny.
Mario G: A backpack called "HardDrive"? What a stupid name.
Why not? It is collecting everything, you may put a lot of things inside. Smart move with the name, I believe.
Just a Photographer: Too bad these 'real world' samples were made by a bad photographer.With these pictures shown you can't judge the camera - what a missed chance.
That is what I am telling post-to-post, test-to-test. World and life important first presentation for manufacturer, just spoiled by using wrong lens and bad objects. Some images are blur, can one imagine that?
Nathaniel George Weir: Why does everyone complain complain complain complain in the comments at DPreview? Seriously this is free information for all of us. If you don’t like how they present the article then just move on about your life. I honestly value the comments section in DPreview, but part of the reason I haven't been coming to DPreview is because I’ve become sick of all of the negative comments and feedback from people who have nothing else better to do or say. I understand that DPreview moderators listen to the people in the comments section. But please people:“If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say it at all"
To Nathaniel - completely wrong what you are just posted. With all my due respect to DPR sometime they posted the things I may described with one word only - ignorance. Sample - new camera test with worse garbage lens ever possible. I do not want to say the goal was to put that camera to dust, it will be stupid, it was not - simply overlooking by testers. But such the things can't have it place on pages of word important review, especially by DPR. So on and on, but I really like this site for its, mostly top pro reviews, otherwise I will be silent. So critics just helping this nice net source to grow!
The absolute best is the new Oly M1, if operator doesn't need huge magny. Nothing is better than that miracle with MMF-3 and astonishing 50-200/2.8, what means 100-400/2.8-3.5 for 35mm. Pen K3 needs updating of color gamut, then, I will see. D800/e is still The King, nothing even close to it, for 2 last years. DF is good for any half of its price. It is my personal view, of course.
I know, I know... I am very bad man! But images are perfect now, and I am able to make my own conclusion on that camera. For such tiny sensor it is very, very good small machine. Zoom is consistent to its extremes, and while it is better to close to 4-4.5, even wide open, its OK. ISO 1600 looks too much a bit, bur usable to, say, 8x10. ISO 400 looks printable without limitations - for such sensor, of course. My congs to Oly - I want one!
owenleve: Yeah, that was being kind. These photos could have been taken with a phone... Why the rush to get real world samples out to the public that are terrible. They are terrible....
It doesn't do the camera justice. I wouldn't buy this camera based on these examples. I AM very interested in this camera, has potential. I'm sure it can do better than what is displayed. Seriously, the images are really bad, but on the upside-there are lot of them. DPR staff should invest more time in creating a nice image that shows what the camera can do. It's a camera... How much of a learning curve is there? Shutter, aperture, ISO and focus. If they can't get to that then fail on the user and/or camera maker for making those essential controls not accessible. This is not the first 'real world' section showing terrible work. Just the first I've finally commented on.
Not an argument. The site is seen by dozens of thousand viewers. Mr. Barnett with all due respect has no rights to post garbage to compromise Sony, or Nikon, or Canon, doesn't matter. By editing such the site, to be respectful, he and his people must act NEUTRAL and top PROFESSIONALLY. So far, its seen to everybody, he is not.
moizes 2: These images are terrible, most of them... Almost all of them are overexposed, and some of them are overexposed of 1.5-2 steps! Nobody can made his/her decision based on images shown! Overexposed image is soft, always, with very poor color/contrast ratio. Sorry to say, but Sony must think twice before giving absolutely new nice product to incompetent people, to test it! Ignorant will ruin your reputation and future of your brand new camera/lens, Sony! You, guys, just spent dozens and dozens of millions $$$$$$$ to make that RX 10, and these poor images just stopping people!
OK. I agree. 70+ images for A7R + 60+images for A7. One is sharp, out of questions. From 130+ . Nice math, don't you think so?
To papa natas - INDEED!
To FreedomLover - so would you be so kind to tell us which one is sharp? All of horses images are unsharp, or wrongly focused, or trivially blur. The rest is the same, most, again, absolutely wrongfully focused. So if you want to advocate, be sure you have the proof. Everybody may open to original size these pics, no problem.
Let me add something - just looked at A7 images, by the same author. NOT EVEN ONE IMAGE IS SHARP. Looks like you are correct - there is some very strange requirements to Sony products, if not direct try to show how low quality products Sony making. Yes, DPR is competent on very strange way, I would say.
To Everlast - you are more diplomat, I am not, too straight. And I meant not DPR, but author of that garbage, to be exact.
Too late to do anything. The great damage to Sony is already done. Just wonder why billions $$ company is unable to hair top pro person to make so important introductory pics! Sorry to say but looks like someone who is in charge in Sony is incompetent or simply idiot!
These images are terrible, most of them... Almost all of them are overexposed, and some of them are overexposed of 1.5-2 steps! Nobody can made his/her decision based on images shown! Overexposed image is soft, always, with very poor color/contrast ratio. Sorry to say, but Sony must think twice before giving absolutely new nice product to incompetent people, to test it! Ignorant will ruin your reputation and future of your brand new camera/lens, Sony! You, guys, just spent dozens and dozens of millions $$$$$$$ to make that RX 10, and these poor images just stopping people!
GPW: What the HELL is going on at Nikon? Do anyone think that this camera will have a better profit margin than a D400. NIKON seems to have their head up their A#$ when it comes to what their customers really want.
We do not know anything so far, but, if rumors are true, what auditorium will be for that toy, and for D400? And, for the same or close price, what choice people will make - D610, which is really good, or that still unknown toy for snobs? Nikon is not that financially good to make mistakes, you know...