meshal: i sometime pay hundreds or thousand of dollars for lenses to gain half or 1 stop and this one lose some in high iso. no thanks canon.
Believe it or not, this camera isn't exactly aimed at people who would spend "thousands of dollars for lenses to gain half or 1 stop" anyway, so I don't think this is going to be an issue for the average Rebel buyer. LOL.
Ubilam: I used a 7D today for the first time. Its like... a new Universe opened. Canon should make only 7D's.
@Nishi Drew, I've traveled around the world with an old unsealed Rebel XT in all kinds of bad weather, including rain, and shooting at the base of waterfalls like Niagara in the US and Iguazu Falls in Argentina where it's practically like shooting in the shower or a car wash, and my XT survived just fine. I don't think people realize just how much these cameras can take. If you don't believe me, what this torture test where the testers harshly abuse a Canon 550D (and Nikon D90), including pouring a full cup of hot tea on the camera...twice...and the Canon survives just fine.
jdrx2012: Canon has re-purposed their 18mp sensor so many times it is getting worse! Also, gotta say, I continue to hate on the 1.6 multiplier. Canon models, below the 5D series and 7D, stinks, plain and simple.
People who "continue to hate on the 1.6 multiplier" should be ignored. What kind of irrational non-sense is that? Tens of millions of users have been using the 1.6 multiplier for over a decade now. I shoot with 1.6x and FF interchangeably when I shoot weddings, and I see absolutely zero reason to "hate on" the 1.6x multiplier. Each has its pros and cons.
As for the "re-purposed" 18mp sensor, jeez, not every camera needs an entirely new and different sensor. These days, the performance of sensors is so high that the biggest limitation is the person behind the camera. Unfortunately, the art of photography has been overtaken by obsessed tech- heads like jdrx2012 who care more about tech than art. It's really sad.
gl2k: Nice cam but Canon seems to be years behind Sony when it comes to sensor technology. Compare the noise of the Canon with Sonys new NEX F3 in RAW mode.
I thought anally obsessive pixel peeping was getting passe. Are people still obsessed about scrutinizing images so closely? I guess so. Kind of sad, though, because there's so much more to photography than looking at images at 100% pixel-level magnification.
Shakens: don't like the idea of a touchscreen on my DSLRits bad enough keeping the screen on my phone clean.don't what greasy finger marks allover my camera too
I think people have gotten over being anal about pristinely clean screens. Obviously, touchscreen phones now dominate the market, and no one worries about touching their phone screens with their fingers anymore. The same will happen with these new touchscreen cameras. Besides, a camera's screen is more likely to get smudged up from facial oils getting on the screen than finger oils. Of course, it may be that some people have greasier fingers than others, but if people can embrace using touchscreen phones and tablets, I don't think it will be an issue getting people to embrace touchscreens on cameras.
I think I cared about finger marks on my Android phone and iPad screen the first week I had them. After that I never really gave it another thought, unless they got *very* smudged up.
The 7D is overkill for a lot of photographers. Not everyone wants to lug around the extra weight of a 7D, not to mention its much larger size, and expense. A 7D weighs 945g with battery. A Rebel T4i weighs only 575g with battery. That's a 370g difference. In other words, the 7D weighs 64% more than a Rebel T4i. Or to put it another way, a 7D weighs as much as one whole T4i plus 2/3rds of a second T4i. That may or may not seem like a big difference on paper, but the difference is immediately noticeable when you pick them up...and becomes even more noticeable after carrying them all day long.
Besides, unless you do high speed shooting or high speed focus tracking, most people will never even see the benefits of a 7D over a Rebel T4i. For example, if you mainly shoot portraits or landscapes or stills, a 7D isn't going to be much of a benefit.
arqomx: does the touchscreen operations still works well when using LCD protector?
Screen protectors work on capacitive touchscreen cell phones, so they should work on this capacitive touchscreen camera. The technology is the same.
AmateurSnaps: We knew all this, so nothing to see here
The 650D is a nice camera but in light of the competition it is now overpriced.
The 9 point AF was a welcome addition as was the increase in fps, but most of the other add-ons just look tacked on while canon decide which way to jump.
No reason why Canon didn't offer more, other than to protect its current higher end systems.
"We knew all this, so nothing to see here"
So you're saying there's no point in reviews? The same can be said of plenty of cameras. Someone is ALWAYS going to complain, "We knew all this, so nothing to see here." EVERY new increase or addition of specs or features is ALWAYS going to be considered to "looked tacked on" by someone. In other words, there are always going to be whiners whining for the sake of whining.
Sad Joe: Again I have to agree - the Nikon 1 makes no sense and should be binned as a format. As a DSLR user I select which camera/ which lens/which format and am loyal to my brands - Nikon & Canon. Of these only Canon seems to have considered the question of what next when someone wishes to progress but doesn't want the full size etc of a normal DSLR. If I were in the market today and wanted another brand or wanted to have as small a camera as possible it would be Panasonic or Olympus, not Sony menus too complex, boring lens range - last on my list would be a Nikon 1.
Nikon really do need a rethink - I predict that sales of the 1 will increase as each new model comes along - however such sales will be miles behind their main rivals and now we have the Canon EOS M to look forward too, not good for Nikon.
Time running out Nikon - bin it and move on...
@Jared Huntr, have you even seen a mirrorless lens in real life!?!? Even "large" mirrorless lenses are quite small compared to their DSLR counterparts! Furthermore, even a "large" mirrorless lens on a mirrorless body results in a significant weight reduction compared to a comparable DSLR lens on a DSLR body. Weight reduction is weight reduction.
As for your comment: "Now you have to use both hands to support the camera so that you don't stress the mount"...wow, you're complaining that you might have to use BOTH hands to support the camera!?!?! LOLOLOL. Seriously?!?! I use my Canon 70-200/4L on a tiny Oly E-PM1 mirrorless body. Yes, I use both hands. Why in the world would I ever want to shoot with this lens using just one hand, regardless of the lens mount? That's ridiculous. Your statements are just foolish. BTW, it balances just fine because every lens/body combo has a center of gravity.
itsastickup: This was fun to see in the National Geographic 25 years ago or more.
So just because something was done a quarter century ago (or more), it should never be done again? There are a lot of people today who weren't even alive back then, or were too young to consider it "interesting" or not. Furthermore, there are a lot of people who want to try this effect for themselves *today*, rather than just seeing it in a quarter-century-old magazine.
Andy Crowe: > Both cameras retain the ability to save all the original files
Well that's not real multiple exposure then, it's just taking a load of separate images and combining them digitally. You may as well just use Photoshop as you'll have more flexibility over the image that way.
Wasn't there a digital camera that could take real multiple exposures (opening the shutter several times before reading the data off)?
Andy, it's both. It's taking multiple exposures AND making a single blended image. The difference is that you still have those multiple original images to use for other purposes, or for a post-processes blended image. So it gives you the best of both worlds.
Blackfjord: Boring. A special effect that's not that special. Canon, you try to impress with this? Just make a solid camera with a huge viewfinder, dead on focus accuracy and speed, and a supremely comfortable body, and IQ bordering on medium format. You're charging plenty for this already. Just do it or get out of the business. Geez.
An effect is just an effect. A feature is just a feature. It's really up to the photographer or the artist to make it compelling. Canon gives you the tools. It's up to you, the artist, to make something of it.
Besides, this may come as a surprise to you, but this blending feature isn't the ONLY capability of their 1DX camera! LOL! So chill out.
Neal Hood: I also think its a special effect that's not so special. Other than maybe astro photography, multiple image capture just does't capture much except perhaps making the picture look busy. A single image should tell the story.
But when the "story" is the sequence of movements, I can see how these blended images do more than just a single frame.
Camediadude: Sure, the design looks to be thoroughly thought out (as to be expected), but the omission of a viewfinder in so many of these mirrorless debuts just irks me to no end. I will never again buy a camera without one... I was burned once and that was enough to last me for life! Nothing can replace having a little window to frame things and see it a little differently ...
"I was burned once and that was enough to last me for life!"
LOL, that's like saying, "I was burned by auto focus once and that was enough to last me for a life! I'm never using AF again!" I remember a lot of long-time manual focus shooters saying that about AF cameras. But obviously, AF cameras have done quite well. And likewise, cameras without viewfinders have done quite well, too.
The funny thing is that whenever I hand my DSLR over to a typical non-DSLR shooter, the first thing they'll do is stare at the rear LCD, expecting to be able to frame the image with the rear LCD. It doesn't occur to them that they have to look through the "little window to frame things." My point is that there is a whole generation of users who are more comfortable using a rear LCD.
BoyntonBlade: I would quit photography before I used this camera.
People are so narcissistic and self-centered these days that they forget that there is a world of people out there that aren't so narrow-minded and inflexible as they are. These days, people make great photos with all variety of equipment, from film Holgas to iPhones to medium format digital bodies.
looker: And by "mirrorless", you mean point and shoot? I'm scanning through pages and pages here on DP, trying to find out what the difference between "mirrorless" and point and shoot is. Apparently, just a psychological marketing distinction based on a premium price.
One difference might be the fact that you can change lenses on these cameras. Just sayin'. LOL.
Hey, a DSLR can also be "point and shoot", too. But it's really up to the photographer to take ANY camera beyond just pointing and shooting.
Tower: NO viewfinder how we can hold outdoor shooting? Should have a decent ideas to handle this issues.
Time to join the 21st century, pal. Plenty of people take great pictures without a viewfinder! Framing with a rear LCD has nothing to do with making a "junk image" or not. I think this is a generational thing. The older folks can't understand how you can possibly get good images without using a viewfinder (most of which don't offer 100% coverage, by the way). The younger generation just thinks the older generation should stop complaining and go drink their prune juice. LOL!
hpunetha: Can EF-S lens also be used with it
Yes, the adapter allows both EF and EF-S lenses to be used.
Kwick1: Lame, lame, lame. They decided on the "small body with huge lenses" approach like NEX. Total fail. They're so afraid of losing their DSLR base that they couldn't do something truly innovative. And then to launch with the dumbed-down entry-level version first - another fail.
Imagine if they had launched a truly pocketable system that used an APS-C sensor and tiny, jewel-like lenses (think affordable Leica), what a stir that would have caused? Or how many bodies they would have sold if they had joined m 4/3?
Total fail, Canon.
@turretless- not everyone carries a bag. I was at a street fair today, and I saw at least a dozen people using DSLRs. None of them had a bag. Just the camera on a strap hanging from their shoulder. In a few years, when I go to the same street fair, I expect to see most of these DSLRs being replaced by mirrorless cameras like the EOS M.
Besides, keep in mind that a lot of current Canon DSLR users will be slipping one of these EOS M bodies into the side pocket of their camera bags. It'll make a great secondary body. I'd probably keep the 22mm pancake on it, but it could take an EF lens on it if I need a second body to swap between lenses without having to constantly mount/unmount lenses.
Tom Hoots: It just smacks of "not enough camera body to hold onto." With nothing much in the way of right-hand grip, and nothing virtually at all for the left hand to hold onto, how are you going to manage a big lens on the thing?
Your left hand is typically supposed to be resting underneath the camera body and/or the lens, supporting the camera and/or lens from below. In the case of larger larger lenses, your left hand ends up positioned entirely underneath the lens. So there isn't any need for anything to be on the left side of the camera body for your left hand to hold onto!
As for your right hand, you have a thumb grip on the back and finger grip on the front. If you have your left hand properly supporting the camera from below, there shouldn't be any need for your right hand to be doing much work holding the camera.
Apparently, you need to brush up on your camera holding skills.
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