aquarta: "“The voice of our α community remains the most important guiding force of our product development plans,” said Neal Manowitz, Deputy Vice President for Digital Imaging at Sony Electronics. “The addition of Uncompressed 14-Bit RAW processing is a direct result of customer feedback. Widely requested by photo and video enthusiasts, we believe the choice of RAW processing types will further elevate the performance of these extraordinary cameras.”"
What's not to like about Sony at this moment? There should be no complaining whatsoever from any of us.
@bluevellet - personally, I saw no issue with compressed RAW because it still gave me the flexibility and quality of RAW but with smaller file size. There is, after all, a practical reason for why files are compressed. After all, mp3's are compressed, and we seem to be doing fine with it. Sure, you can listen to lossless music files, but they are much larger and most of the time you'd never be able to tell the difference anyways. Sure, there may be compromises to compression, but in this case I think the benefits of compression were good and the downsides of compression were extremely minimal.
Good to see that a camera company is listening to what their users want. Good job, Sony!
Personally, I think it was a non-issue. Or at least it was blown out of proportion relative to the practical, real world effect on images. It was just something for the whiners to latch onto. Now, hopefully, the "issue" can be put to rest.
ttran88: Canon has proven it again that mirrorless is crap. People If you want good quality images get a real camera DSLR.
Right, it's because good image quality comes from the all-important reflex mirror (you know, that mirror that has to flip out of the way in order to capture an image)! LOL, not.
RichRMA: I love how Sony and Nikon are "guiding" people to cameras with FF, a 3:2 format invented in 1909 for motion picture film. Talk about going backward.
Ehhhh...it isn't just FF that is 3:2 format. APS-C is 3:2 format, too. So why single out just Sony or Nikon? 3:2 format is the most widely used format in ILC cameras, and it's been like that-- uninterrupted-- for decades and decades. It's not "going backwards". It's merely staying consistent with what remains a popular and widely used aspect ratio in photography.
RichRMA: Given the choice, would anyone really pay as much for that body as a Nikon D810? If you put the two side by side, you'd have to ask yourself, "Were did the money go, Sony?"
Does the D810 have 4K video, 5-axis IBIS, or an articulating LCD? Also, the D810 is a big brick of a camera.
Chris Yates: Kinda pricey for a Chinese brand.
China is producing some pretty darn good stuff these days.
Remember when people predicted m4/3 was going to soon be a dead format?
starwolfy: Another computer camera from the A7 line.Sold my A7ii 2 months after purchase and went back to a M8. I tried Sony but I am now sure that this type of camera , despite being way newer than a Leica M, is just not my type of cameras. Specs doesn't make it all...and I was missing too much that top shutter speed wheel !
All digital cameras are "computer cameras". If you don't want a computer camera, go back to shooting film.
As for the need to have a physical shutter speed dial on top, it's all a matter of preference. I have a shutter speed dial on the top plate of my X-E1, but I don't find it useful since I usually am shooting in shutter priority, or if I do set shutter speed I prefer that it be in a location that is accessible by my thumb so that I can change shutter speed while still looking through the viewfinder.
adengappasami: What will i do with all thee new cameras when i want a 14,21,24mm AF lenses. Guess i will continue to enjoy the BEST ever 35mm
Use Canon EF lenses via smart AF adapters.
But you you *really* need AF for such wide lenses? Manually focusing them is pretty easy.
Lightcapture: No phase detect AF so the seemingly impressive -4EV low light focusing capability might not be that impressive after all...
Yeah, but don't forget that mirrorless cameras with their focus peaking and focus magnification are great for manual focusing.
Jonathan F/2: Awesome camera for all the cat photographers and people who adapt $50 manual focus lenses on a $3000 USD body!
Well, I'd say that's a nice feature: to be able to accept a huge variety of lenses, from DSLR lenses to Leica M rangefinder lenses...and give them all 5-axis IBIS!
Now all Canon and Nikon DSLRs need is focus peaking and focus magnification through the viewfinder.
rfsIII: RAW = SLAVERY!
We are many, many years down the path of digital imaging science and a camera like this M3 should be able to produce awesome jpgs without human intervention—RAW should be a distant memory by now.
So why does DPReview shoot in RAW? Why the necessity of all this post processing? Shouldn't part of the money we pay for a camera go to better image processing?
It is time for the camera makers to step up their game and give us photos that are gorgeous straight from the camera so we don't have to waste hours fixing their shortcomings in post.
Most cameras already produce very good JPEGs. But some people want more control of their images. After all, a camera can't read your mind and can't process an image exactly as you would have liked it. RAW basicaly allows you to do that: process an image exactly as you would like it.
Richard Franiec: One of the biggest appeals of EOS M system is ability to take EF and EF-S lenses.Sadly, the gallery is not showing the true potential of IQ that M3 can produce using L lenses. The amendment to the gallery in that respect would be appreciated.
Is that really the "biggest appeal" of the EOS M system? To use lenses that aren't part of the EOS M system? I would think that the appeal of a system should be the actual system itself. Besides, EF and EF-S lenses are increasingly becoming capable of being used on other non-Canon camera bodies, such as Sony and Oly bodies, with full compatibility using the latest generation of smart adapters. So if using EF and EF-S lenses it the "biggest appeal" of the EOS M system, then I would say the EOS M system is in trouble! I'm hoping the next generation of Sony mirrorless bodies will inherit the A7R II's IBIS system and its high level of Canon lens AF performance so that I can use my L lenses on them! Then you wouldn't need EOS M, especially if you were mainly buying the EOS M so that you could use L lenses.
dcolak: That is doesn't have an EVF is mind boggling.
@forpetessake - the add-on EVF is $231. I don't know if I'd call that "pretty cheap". That's an additional 40% more money on top of the cost of the base body.
justmeMN: A mirrorless camera in a camera bag isn't any more convenient that a DSLR in a camera bag. In both cases, you are lugging around a bag.
I now travel only with mirrorless gear. My DSLR gear stays at home. Why? Mirrorless gear is lighter, more compact, and you can carry around a smaller, more discreet camera bag. People don't seem to realize that mirrorless gear takes up so much less room than DSLR gear! I downsized my camera bags. But even if you do keep the same size bag, it leaves you more room in the bag for other things. And if you travel with a tripod, you can downsize and lighten that, too. Flexible Gorillapods also become more viable options than with big DSLRs.
The Sage Knows: With so many of these bags you lift the flap and reveal to the world what's inside. Not just that but you then need to contend with a big flap that get's in the way as you retrieve your gear.
Wish there would be at least as many options where the lid tilts AWAY from you when opened. It simultaneosly gets out of the way and provides some shielding of the contents from public view.
Similar to, but with a zipperless option and smaller, than the discontinued, (never properly marketed as a shoulder/beltpack), Orion AW which I have:http://www.mwave.com.au/images/auto_d_image/12100056_01.jpg
I'm surprised these bags don't have a zipper access through the big flap. I, too, hate big flaps on camera bags, but at least some camera bags offer a zipper opening so that you can keep the big flap in place and still quickly access your gear. Tenba's shoulder bags have big flaps, but also have direct zipper access through the flap.
Dareshooter: When it was announced that the M3 was not going to be released in the USA there was howls of derision. Now it has been announced that the M3 is being released in the USA... howls of derision.
The devil's in the details. Timing and pricing are big factors. The M3 is now coming to the US quite late, at a high price, and the details of the camera (price, specs) look even worse compared to recent introductions like the E-M10 MKII. Plus, if it had come to the US market when it was first introduced, we might be enjoying much lower street prices on it by now. For example, the street price of a Sony A6000 with built-in EVF and better specs is now only $548. But sadly, even the original full retail price of the A6000 ($649.99) is less than what Canon is pricing the M3 at for the US market ($699.99, no EVF included). Part of the "howls of derision" are coming from what Canon is pricing the EOS M3 at, especially compared to the Japan market where it's much cheaper and includes the EVF.
captura: There is no upcoming A7000. Just a rumor with no source to back it up.
A6000 was introduced February 2014. E-M10 II introduced August 2015. You're comparing a newly introduced camera against a camera introduced 18 months ago! I don't even know the point of your statement, but I don't think it's any shock that a newly introduced camera might be "better" than an 18-month-old camera! Besides, the E-M10 II is not "better" if you prefer APS-C format and higher resolution than 16mp.
"There may be a revised A6000, but already DPR has reviewed the E-M10 II and said that is a better camera."
Really? They've already reviewed the successor to the A6000, and have already concluded that the E-M10 II is "a better camera"? Haha. Now, not only are you predicting the future, you're even citing reviews from the future!
"If you want to upgrade from your entry-level APSC cameras, you need to go A7."
There you go again, making declarative statements about the future of all of Sony's offerings.
BTW, I don't consider the A6000 to be "entry-level". It outspecs the EOS M3 by a wide margin, especially when you consider fps shooting speed, buffering capacity, AF performance, features, built-in EVF, etc. If anything, it's the EOS M3 that is "entry-level". I mean, 4fps into a 5 frame RAW buffer on the M3? That's entry-level specs! The A6000 does 11fps and buffers 22 RAW frames!