Sven Witter: Well, she is used to Nikon if not a Nikon envabgelist. Someone who is used and in favour of Nikons way of treating colours, may not find right away the necessary workflow to satisfie their taste. So how much worth is her verdict anyhow? It's just a persons statement with some prejudice and not much proven expertise. I could even ask my sister - she once became an ELDAF-member (elite group of German amateur fotografers sponsored by a Colourfoto magazin)... as a hobby artist in fotografy her verdict might even be worth more.... Or I just trust my own verdict - cause my sister is a free minded artist and I do what my clients pay me for....
Uh, did you even read the article? LOL.
"the body feels sturdy and comfortable to hold, much like a 5D Mark III, which I love using."
"I've been shooting with a Canon EOS 5D Mark III and EOS-1 DX"
"For me, personally, I still prefer the 5D III and the EOS-1D X"
Nice of you to make up things out of thin air, rather than reading the actual article! Hahaha.
GPW: A newspaper reporter is hardly a pro photographer.
A newspaper photographer is, by definition, a pro photographer. They don't pull any punches. To them, cameras are tools to get the job done. That's what pro photographers do, and that's their relationship with their equipment.
Cubby1: This has to be a bias review; at least to some extent. (Otherwise, why would you offer a counterpoint at the end?) Usually I follow reviews on DPR and Cameralabs as the primary sites, and also look at the others. Generally, except DPR, they all seem to think the G7 X is pretty good, and responsive. And, the images are "excellent". So, who is out of step? This has to be the most negative review I have ever read on DPR. Either you had a bad sample, or you have it in for Canon, or......what?
Good reviews shouldn't hold any punches. All too often, we read glowing reviews that end up telling us nothing. Sounds like you are the kind of person who was looking for that kind of "review". You were merely expecting the reviewer to state "excellent, excellent, excellent" across the board. This is called "confirmation bias", where you are looking for information that supports and confirms your own pre-conceived bias or belief. But if a review doesn't support your pre-conceived bias or belief, you cry foul. So it's probably more likely that it's YOU who has the bias, not the reviewer who has actually handled and tested the camera.
Shot to shot times are too slow and laggy. Canon's internal processing is way far behind the competition. Maybe they should have bought their processors from Sony, too, in addition to the sensor. It might have a shiny new shell, but the internals seem terribly outdated. Canon seems to be earning the reputation of being the "old technology" company, always a few years behind. Geez, what is going on with Canon?
It probably would have been a nicer camera if it had come out 2 years ago. Then you'd be able to pick it up for a lot cheaper today. But as a new 2104 introduction, it's disappointing.
Boss of Sony: Apart from video, I can't understand the 4/3 sensor thing, especially in a camera this size. Sony is making the same size cameras or smaller, with APS-C or full-frame sensors.
You should consider the size of the lenses. I use m4/3, APS-C, and FF. There's no doubt that m4/3 lenses have a size advantage if you want small lenses. Many m4/3 lenses are absolutely tiny. Keep in mind that body size is only one aspect of overall camera size. Lens size is a pretty big aspect of overall camera size.
Besides, you don't want camera bodies to be TOO small, because then it effects handling and ergonomics. So even if all m4/3 bodies were the same size as FF and APS-C mirrorless bodies, I think that would be perfectly fine. But when you start mounting lenses on these bodies, that's where the size difference becomes apparent. Furthermore, if you have a whole bag full of lenses, the size differential becomes even more significant. So like I said, body size is only one aspect of overall camera size. Don't forget that bodies need lenses.
Zeisschen: OMG, I'm seriously glad that mirrorless cameras have no problems with lens calibration. Unbelievable for me that this is still an issue in 2014 on DSLR cameras. Great innovation from Sigma though for this redicilous problem.
@raincoat - how many DSLR shooters shoot in liveview mode? We use DSLRs because of the viewfinder. At best, liveview is a semi-part-time occasional-use feature for most DSLR shooters (not counting those who use DSLRs for videography). So to say that "it's not a problem at all on DSLRs with liveview focus" is ridiculous when you consider that DSLR shooters overwhelming shoot in non-liveview mode (aka. viewing through the optical viewfinder mode)!
justmeMN: The target audience for this advertising isn't the miniscule echo chamber of Angry DPR Ranters. :-) These folks just love to rant, for the sake of ranting.
BTW, I had a few friends who aren't into photography have a look at this Canon campaign to see what their opinions of it might be. When they looked at what the "reveal" was, they were pretty annoyed, disappointed, and underwhelmed, too. The responses from them were: "That's it?!"..."Lame"..."Stupid"..."Ah, they're just jerking us around"..."Fail"..."It's like opening up a big, fancy Christmas present only to find socks inside-- or nothing at all"...etc. So don't think it's just a few "miniscule" people here at DPreview that have been turned off by this campaign. Average consumers and "civilians" feel the same way when they look at it.
So who is the target audience? Canon fanboys (which are their own echo chamber)? That would simply be Canon preaching to the choir. Or is it aimed at ill-informed consumers? Is it Canon trying to sell themselves as a company that makes incredible, leading-edge "impossible" consumer products that no one else in the camera industry is offering? That would then be false advertising and very misleading.
Occasionally, companies need to be called on the carpet for some of the things they try to get away with. Online backlash is one of those avenues of feedback that consumers now have. Sure, there will always be those few people who rant for the sake of ranting. It's easy to ignore that minority. But when you get such an overwhelming MAJORITY of negative feedback, that can be a strong message to the offending company. There's something to be said for the overwhelming unanimity of disdain for this Canon campaign. It's not just a few ranters here and there.
stelioskritikakis: 'See Impossible': Canon counts down to... nothing
Countdown to a name change: Can-not.
Seriously, though, I hope this is a wake up call to Canon. Hopefully, they'll realize that talk is cheap, actions (and products) speak louder than words. However, if Canon sees there's nothing wrong with their campaign, and they choose to continue to get by with just marketing mumbo-jumbo, then we can mark this as a watershed moment for Canon...the moment when they began their decline.
Catalin Stavaru: It seems that the Canon campaign had its desired effect. This article seems to have the largest number of comments in dpreview's history :)
Really? So the desired effect was to generate the most negative comments in DPreview history? Bad publicity might work if you are a tabloid celebrity, but it's not so good for companies and brands. Why do you think advertisers shy away from highly controversial television and radio shows? It's because they don't want to be associated with anything that might tarnish their brand image. In other words, companies aim NOT to tarnish their brand image. That is NOT the desired effect that companies want. They want people to have a MORE positive view of their brand, not a LESS positive view of their brand. I think there is an overwhelming number of people who now have a LESS positive view of Canon after this campaign. So that is the "desired effect" they were going after?
justmeMN: Canon estimates that, this year, they will sell 9.5 million compact cameras, and 7.0 million DSLRs.
Not bad, for a company that does everything wrong, and that everyone hates. :-)
Donnie G, fanboy extraordinaire. Sold his soul to a company he worships.
justmeMN - do you really want to just be a mindless drone buying products from a company simply because they sell a lot of stuff? How about actually making a decision based on the merits of the products that the company produces, compared to the merits of the products other companies produce?
I find Canon has become gallingly arrogant. Like when Masaya Maeda said in his interview that the 7DII didn't have wifi because "the body material presented challenges", and people should buy the $850 Wireless File Transmitter WFT-E7A if they want wifi with the 7DII. $850 to add wifi! Not only that, the WFT-E7A is a clunky brick that adds a vulnerable cable hanging off your camera! Who wants to add that to their camera!? It's 2014, not 2004! Meanwhile, other companies have NO PROBLEM putting wifi into their metal bodied products!
Do you really want to blindly defend a company like that?
Donnie G: Alright my fellow fantasy marketing executive couch potatoes, are you ready to rumble? Yeah baby, bring it. Ever notice how when I bring up the subject of sales, especially for the all important holiday buying season, that all of the Canon bashers either ignore the subject or they try to pretend that sales and profits are somehow unimportant and unrelated to a company's survival. Some even believe that companies are suppose to just whip up products based on consumers whims at any given moment without any regard for production costs or timing or the notoriously fickle nature of ever changing consumer tastes. Well, I'm bringing that nasty sales subject up again, so get ready to try to deflect attention away from the subject again as we move ever closer to our 1,500 comments milestone. Ok, who's next?
Canon is like a huge container ship that is still coasting through the ocean even though their engines have stopped. They are slicing through the water on sheer momentum. Objects that large don't come to a stop very quickly. They just keep going for a while. Think of a train on a train track. A train can continue going for miles even with engines shut off, and the breaks applied! But that can't last forever. A company like Canon would be expected to continue to sell well solely based on their brand name and past popularity. However, as companies such as RIM/Blackberry and Microsoft have found out, you can't coast on your name forever. These companies used to be the dominant brands in mobile phones. Not anymore. Windows Phone has 2.5% marketshare, Blackberry has 0.5% marketshare:
I'm not saying that Canon will fall to those levels. But things do change.
Canon is like a huge container ship that is still coasting through the ocean even though their engines have stopped. They are slicing through the water on sheer momentum. Objects that large don't come to a stop very quickly. They just keep going for a while. Think of a train on a train track. A train can continue going for miles even with engines shut off, and the breaks applied! But that can't last forever. A company like Canon would be expected to continue to sell well solely based on their brand name and past popularity. However, as companies such as RIM/Blackberry and Microsoft have found out, you can't coast on your name forever. These companies used to be the dominant brands in mobile phones. Not anymore.
Duckie: I had very limited Canon equipment before. Still disappointed. We need Canon alive to keep the other guys honest. I don't want to see Canon flatline.
I think you have it backwards. We need the other guys alive to keep Canon honest. Otherwise, Canon feels they can just get by with giving customers the absolute bare minimum effort (see EOS M). That's why I'm not spending any more money with Canon. I'd rather support the other brands who are doing a better job with putting out interesting products rather than lame marketing gimmicks.
KW Phua: Investing in new Fab for sensor may take a few yrs to break even. Now the camera market is slowing down, so it may take longer to break even. Any company want to invest will need to ensure that they can advance others by 10 yrs or more before the next investment. Hope to see the next big thing from Canon soon.
In other words, "Canon, We See Excuses."
triplight: I love this camera. There's some minor wide-angle barrel distortion:
...but no worries, it's automatically corrected. Yes, correcting certain amounts of distortion can result in slightly blurry corners and stretch people out like they're fallling into a black hole, but so what. This is a compact, what do you expect? We're talking about a pocketable camera with a huge 1" sensor, folks - this is a GAME CHANGER.
Actually, it's more like a game FOLLOWER. The game changer was the Sony RX100 which had a "huge 1" sensor" two years ago.
biza43: I think that a message that aims to inspire and challenge people to boost their creativity in imaging, is lost amongst the techno nerds and equipment focused inhabitants of Dpreview...
Have people actually seen the work that is featured in the microsite? Quite inspiring, but that's me, I much prefer to see the work of other photographers and imagers, than discussing frustrations and blaming equipment for my failures...
There's inspiring work all over the web. It's not as if anyone needed a two-page ad in the New York Times, a cryptic rant, and a count-down timer, to get people to look at "inspiring" work on the web!
Canon is an equipment company. That's what we want them to do: provide equipment. We really don't need them to be spoon feeding us "inspiring" examples. It's mainly just smoke and mirrors in a vain attempt at deflecting attention from the fact that they've become stale and out-of-touch in their duties as an equipment provider. We really don't need Canon to be a brow-beating, sermonizing motivational speaker.
Donnie G: Is it possible that more DPR people have expressed a strong opinion about Canon's new marketing campaign today than have expressed any interest at all in a weeks worth of non-Canon product related Photokina news? Yeah Baby! This is how the big boys, (Apple, Canon, Google, H-P), generate buzz in the marketplace that gets people to constantly say their name over and over again while lesser players quietly wither and die.
Donnie G, Canon fanboy extraordinaire. Keep praying at the Canon altar.
Seriously, buddy, it ain't a religion. No need to be so fanatical in your adoration and praise of Canon. You didn't pledge undying allegiance to Canon...or did you?
Donnie G: Nearly 1,000 comments about a corporate ad campaign from this site alone. Ha ha ha, LOL. Seems the teaser was very successful in reminding average people and businesses that Canon is involved in a lot more than just making consumer cameras and lenses. BRILLIANT!
Donnie G, fanboy extraordinaire.