Leica SL 'we see little justification for purchasing it' That's a bit harsh for a brand new camera system.
Come on DPREVIEW there's more to this world than the A7RII . . .
Flashback: What I can't figure out is the amount of noise still present at ISO 100.
Check out Image16, well lit on a bright sunny day, but the sky has a slight 'dirty' blue look. Or am I expecting too much from a 42Mp sensor?
Thanks Rishi. Just checked and the D810 does sit at the top for being the cleanest.
Using the colour swatch (RAW 100%), I've looked at all of the cameras you have tested and they are all noisy. Even the mighty Phase one looks muddy!
Please find the time to explain what is going on here. Since to me it looks like we will have to rely on software noise reduction algorithms (tricks!), despite how much we pay for our cameras.
Considering your explanation, Rishi, would you expect the A7S2 to produce a cleaner sky, despite it's lower S/N, compared to the A7R2? (All things being equal at base ISO)
What I can't figure out is the amount of noise still present at ISO 100.
Think again Samsung, are you nuts!
Are you really going to let Sony walk all over you?
Very sad announcement for all of us. We need competition from where ever it comes.
villagranvicent: Much better than the Leica SL in the studio comparison but I guess the extra 5K are for the silent shutter.
A7R's are beginning to pile up on e-bay right now.
This time next year it will be the turn of A7RII, but the Leica SL will be stubbornly holding it's value.
justmeMN: "Update: While still awaiting an official response..." -DPR
"Sometimes the silence can be like the thunder" - Bob Dylan
It's all over now baby blue...
Do these RAW results, imply that the base ISO of the Leica is actually 400?
Flashback: A nice varied selection, but nothing stand out.
I was hoping for more 'pop', but it is early days yet.
I'd like to see this with a Summilux 35mm f1/.4 slapped on the front.
In fact why on earth did they launch this camera with a zoom?
A nice varied selection, but nothing stand out.
At this size, it could have been Medium Format. Transforming it into a sensational Leica camera.
This would have opened the door to us dedicated photographers.
But alas no. What a shame.
Wow, you won't want to drop that on one of your toes!
Canon you design some impressive camera's, but this one looks like it has come from a 4 year old! and come on, it wouldn't have hurt much to include 4K.
One step forward, two steps back.
palie: this has been a rich discussion that throws light on many basic issues surrounding photography and cameras. call me a luddite, but i think something quintessential about photography is getting lost. autofocus, image stabilisation, EVF ... yuk. all form factors are a compromise. the biggest problem has been around for decades, namely: how to you get TTL viewing without the complications and intrusion of a mirror mechanism ? it hasn't yet been resolved, and perhaps will never be. in the meantime: pleeze, rollei, stick a low MP digital sensor into your twin lens reflexes. and pleeze, mamiya, do the same with those fabulous medium format rangefinder cams you made in the nineties ...
I had the RZ67 and even today admire the quality of the prints it produced.
The portrait has such depth and so beautiful in colour.
One of the very few images on these forums that actually looks like a photograph and not just another digital image. Well done Leica.
Now if I cash in all my Premium Bonds...
Superb... wow 2
What a relief Sony finally releases a 'duff' camera!
Order of merit with RAW at ISO 1600.
2nd DSC-RX10 MkI
3rd DSC-RX10 MkII
Surprisingly this new sensor, although much quicker, has poorer IQ.
Beautiful colours from Leica, shot with an equally beautiful lens.
If you check out the Leica forum, they can't help posting images. This is why.
just a quick note to Panasonic:
Take that gorgeous 30 x 45mm sensor, with a Leica 35mm lens, and drop it into a GX8 size body. Oh and 4k video please...