Zvonimir Tosic: Interesting comparative weight between APS-C brethren (inc. battery & card):GR = 245 gCoolpix A = 290 gSigma Merrill DP2 = 330+ g Fujifilm X100s = 445 g
Fuji has F2.0 lens, the other three cameras don't. That a full one stop faster lens.
And RX1: 482g with FF sensor and F2.0 FF lens
RStyga: To all those who persistently kept propagating the nonsense argument that x camera has to be large because it has a large sensor!
It's a single focal length lens with F2.8 lens. Fuji has F2.0 lens and OVF and EVF combo.
That accounts for size difference.
shlam: How is this competitive in the market? Say compared to the Sony NEX 3N, it costs $100 more, has a larger, yet shorter zoom range kit lens with no stabilization, no built-in flash, no tilt-screen...
@viking79 , 16-50 is not garbage between 16-20. The Nex cameras have auto lens correction, and it's very usable between 16-20. See KKurt munger review.
@marike6 , Nex has native lenses from Tamron, Sigma, and three more upcoming lenses from Zeiss. No third-party makes lenses for Samsung, so I would say E-mount has native lens advantage
andywhoa: Those dummies. Don't they know it only received a silver award from DPR. It's not like it's the best compact camera of all time or anything.
It's the best pocket camera of all time, as far the image quality is concerned, confirmed by dxomark. It also has fastest auto focus, at least much faster than Canon S100. There is no shutter lag either, as it has electronic first shutter curtain.
RX100 was a game changer. No one is even interested now in the new 1/1.7" cameras like EX2, LX7, S110. RX100 is is responsible for that shift in expectation.
It will be late 2013 or early 2014 before other camera makers have a response to RX100.
Peiasdf: A slightly stripped D7000 for $250 less. Not a bad deal. The A57 is a real competitor at $150 cheaper however.
If this is five years ago I would have picked one of those cameras.
Yeah, but A57 can do a lot of other things that K30 can't. Like shoot 10 fps (12 fps with 8 MP crop) with continuous AF (and with larger buffer). 60p video, HDMI, mic out, continuously AF in video mode, and tons of neat software tricks (like take 6 shots and stack them to lower noise, and do it hand-held without a tripod).
RadPhoto: There is more Sony cameras than lenses.
which is of course false:
Fixed focal lengthhttp://www.dyxum.com/lenses/results.asp?IDLensType=1
amblepath: I don't know if she has little hands but the Xpro-1 looks rather massive.
It's much bigger than Nex-7 ... See this comparison
chris_j_l: Normally Sigma give a mount compatibility roadmap (eg Nikon, Sigma first, others later) with the announcement. All info on the Sigma site suggests it is Sigma SA only (oh for a K version)
20mm F1.7 (40mm eqv) is the most popular lens on M4/3. Sigma 30mm (45mm eqv on APSC) F2.8 will give identical DOF and low-light performance on APSC that M4/3 gets with 20mm F1.7.
How is that crappy? Looks perfectly fine for Nex.
thx1138: really can't believe the conclusions on IQ for the NEX 7. The IQ above ISO 800 is mediocre even when using ACR 6.6. What is the point of 24Mp if you have to resize to 16MP to get a decent result. Did the reviewer even look at the high ISO results. Even at ISO 800 it looks worse than the GH2 which has higher pixel density. The 7D is ridiculed by some for it's noise and it's got nothing to worry about.
If you stick to ISO 400, NEX 7 looks like a great camera, but I expected far more. Should have just used the 5N sensor and dropped the price by $100.
No it doesn't. 7 looks better, much better, more detail.
Digicam Newbie: Great review... Thanks.
However; six of your last seven detailed reviews have been Sonys. Will you continue reviewing other brands? Would love to see more balance.
That's because Sony released more cameras in 2011. Canon didn't release any DSLR 2011. Nikon only released D5100 and it was reviewed. Pentax released nothing major in 2011 except Q. Nikon 1 was released after Nex-7 so review is probably due after Nex-7 too.
Dave Oddie: Re the noise comparisons with the A77 it would be interesting to see how using the A mount adapter on the Nex 7 affects things.
Dpr seem pretty certain it is the light loss from the Slt mirror that causes worse a77 performance (presumably because the sensor on the A77 has the gain turned up to get a given sensitivity to compensate for the light loss).
Using the adapter would prove this was the case if the noise performance then matched the A77's.
If it still out performed the A77 then that would point to other factors obviously.
I am also curious as to why Dpr see such a big difference when I thought the SLT mirror did not deflect that much light?
Just how may stops difference is the noise performance between the two and does it match the how many stops of light loss the SLT introduces?
If the noise performance difference is greater than the specified loss of stops the SLT mirror results in, then either Sony is lying about that or Dpr need to look for another explanation.
Why do you need DPR? Look at Dxomark, A55, A580, Nex-7, A77, A65, A35, Nex-5 ,, all these cameras are on Dxomark. You can easily calculate the difference using dxomark scores.
DPR used A-mount 50mm F1.8 instead of E-mount F1.8. I assuming that means the A-mount version was doing better in studio shots?
Samsung is getting "better" at "high ISO" by mislabeling ISOs!!!!
Model: NX200Exposure Time: 1/200ISO Speed Ratings: 1600(According to DPR,, set at F8 -- Pentax lens with an adapter).
Model: NEX-5NExposure Time: 1/400F Number: 8ISO Speed Ratings: 1600
Despite getting twice more light, NX200 doesn't even look anywhere close to the Sony's 16 MP sensor.
Mapel: Where has gone the accessory port?....
Sony made the EVF http://www.sony.co.jp/SonyInfo/News/Press/201108/11-0824/
Prognathous: Why would anyone buy a Samsung over competition mirrorless systems? The NX200 is very likely to have inferior IQ compared to Sony (as did all Samsung APS-C cameras to date), it doesn't have the small lens lineup and system maturity of m43, and it doesn't have the forward thinking and superb user interface of Ricoh's GXR. In terms of sales all Samsung NX have been a failure, so why are they still trying?
Sony claims it's exclusive Sony technology http://www.sony.co.jp/SonyInfo/News/Press/201108/11-0824/
Samsung did not "make" the viewfinder for Sony. That was pure rumor. In the presentation Paul Gene said that the viewfinder is exclusive to Sony and is made/designed by Sony.