Neil189: Why are the dpreview forum members such whiners? If you don't like it, buy something else. This camera is better than most people know how to use, is the first of its kind on the market, and we don't even know how it may or may not perform. Go out and take a picture and quit being so negative. Look now I'm whining too. Sheesh.
The point is: with built-in EVF it would be closer to ideal of camera I want; without one, just another junk camera. Lumix LX100 would be the one, but at 75mm as the longer FL, it is to short. If it reaches at least 100-130mm (G1xII would be great with built-in EVF), I would not look elsewhere. (I know it is hard to compare 1" and 4/3 sensor, but I am making compromises.)
Joriarty: Where are you folks getting the idea that there's no EVF? You can't tell that from the front view! That could be a pop-up EVF on the top there, like the RX100 III. Way to jump to conclusions.
From this image of the mockup, I can also tell that it should have a tiltable (not fully articulated) LCD, too... Not only a "no EVF".
cgarrard: Canon save some production costs, scrap this, and re-design with a built in EVF. It's absolutely clear to me that while you'll make a minority of purchasers happy with this camera announcement, that you've made a grave error in not designing it to please the majority who are interested in this segment.
ALL of the last G series models are san's viewfinder- and you have to be absolutely blind not to see that the desires of enthusiasts want BUILT IN finders.
Next you'll see Canon eliminate the optical finders in their DSLR's.
Well, due to their avoiding to implement a built-in EVF`s, I am no longer their fan. And I am seriously considering selling my EOS system, too, and switching to Nikon (or even Sony A7). Like long ago Nikonians once switched to EOS.Canon wants to become a leader on the mirrorless market within a year? What a nonsense! No way without a built in EVF.
cathyph1: No EVF means no purchase from me. And add-on EVF's are a pain so that won't work for me either. The other manufacturers are adding excellent EVFs to their cameras and making them super usable. I will only buy this new camera if it has one.
C/PCanon is stubborn in avoiding EVF, I am stubborn in not buying Powershot cameras, and am looking elsewhere. Additional EVF (like for G1x MkII and M3) is not an option to me. Powershot might be perfect camera by all other means, but without EVF it is just another disabled camera.
nemark: My high-end compact camera of choice would (WOULD) be a G1x MkII, IF it had a BUILT-IN evf. Fully articulated display would be a great plus.Unfortunately, being without built-in EVF, my cameras of choice are, in this order: Lumix LX100, Fuji X30, Fuji X100T, Sony RX100 III, Lumix FZ1000, and only at the sixth place is G1x II. Sorry Canon, these days I am contemplating a high-end compact camera and this is may rang-list. After G1x MkI I hoped for EVF and you disappointed me. No viewfinder at all and limited articulation of LCD.Shame.
Glad I am not alone ;)
My high-end compact camera of choice would (WOULD) be a G1x MkII, IF it had a BUILT-IN evf. Fully articulated display would be a great plus.Unfortunately, being without built-in EVF, my cameras of choice are, in this order: Lumix LX100, Fuji X30, Fuji X100T, Sony RX100 III, Lumix FZ1000, and only at the sixth place is G1x II. Sorry Canon, these days I am contemplating a high-end compact camera and this is may rang-list. After G1x MkI I hoped for EVF and you disappointed me. No viewfinder at all and limited articulation of LCD.Shame.
vroger1: The reviews mirror what other sites have stated. It never ceases to amaze me that a company such as Leica could turn out a product which is so esoteric. I don't believe I have ever seen one in use. This problem is not strictly Leica's. Canon has for years striven to produce digicams with wide appeal but always leave something out- be it a viewfinder (Optical or EVF) or a fast lens. The only company in solely my opinion, which has time and again succeeded in bringing out digicams with the widest possible appeal is Panasonic.
And Fuji, too.
To David Wentworth:"a 35 mm equivalent f/1.7. The camera would not allow me shoot at f/1.7 when within a certain distance to a subject. Instead, the aperture would automatically "correct" to f/2.2 or f/2.8, even when in full manual mode."
I suspect that it is the same reason why did East Germany Jena Zeiss do the same thing with some of their lenses (2.8/35mm Flectogon and 3.5/135mm Sonnar at least). And the reason is simple: as you focus closer and closer, your lens moves further from film/sensor surface becoming "a longer focal length, while diameter of the hole ("aperture") that passes light to the sensor remains same. The ammount of light that reaches sensor is reduced. That is also why 2.8 macro lens when set to 1:1, becomes actually f5.6 (in other words, you`ll need for 2EV longer exposure).
2eyesee: The adage "if you're explaining, your losing" comes to mind. The need for this article in itself shows that Fuji have missed the mark.
It's been 20 months since the X20 was announced, and no improvement in the core areas of sensor and lens. Meanwhile, Sony have 3 different RX100 models with 1" sensors at various pricepoints to choose from. Fuji have has 2 years to respond - a fail as far as I'm concerned.
Well, EVF is what is missing in many competitor models, and lot of other things that come with this new Fuji is why I am finally going to buy this (not so) little thing. I am not replacing old "compact" camera. I was without all around camera for a while, and with this body it is going to end. I didn`t need a revolutionary new camera, just already existing things but in different cameras from different manufacturers to be combined in one. And that is what X-30 brings to me - all in one.
It is more than physical resemblance to an electronic chip. It functions that way, too. Just think of people as electrons, and their motion as en electric flow...Congratulations.
.. and wooden
.. and water :)
This phenomena is known as a sun pillar.
I thought it was "Levitation" ;)
"and offers a substantial 28-300mm equivalent zoom."Actually, it is 25-600mm. IMHO, it is too much for a camera without EVF, no matter how good IS is....
Well, rather wasps or even hornets, but not bees at all!
nemark: As long as these cameras don`t have manual and semiautomatic (Av/Tv) controls, I don`t need them.
I thought "A" was for Auto, not фор "Aperture priority"...
As long as these cameras don`t have manual and semiautomatic (Av/Tv) controls, I don`t need them.
jtr27: Is this lens in addition to, or instead of, the 10mm F2.8 which was announced some time ago? To my knowledge that lens can still not actually be found, and nobody has seen one, much less tested or reviewed it.
We do love announcements Samyang, but we love actual availability of lenses even more! =)
"Less ambitious"? F2 at UWA lens is not "less ambitious"
nemark: Great, but it is just one more Samyang announcement. We already have two unrealized Samyang announcements of one lens: 2.8/10mm. It was firs announced at the las Photokina, and again at the end of 2013. With both releasing dates way behind us.
Actually I did, and it is still "New Item, Available for pre-order". Availability was promised for January, and we are approaching the end of the March, now.