Bravo for Samyang!!! Now my dreams are nearing to come truth! For years (actually from the beginning of APS-C DSLR era), for UWA primes you had only to choose from full frame UWA options, and choice was very narrow, HEAVY and BULKY.... and EXPENSIVE! If someone is oriented to APS-C DSLR, that isn`t always just because at the moment you don`t have the money for full frame, so you buy huge, expensive FF lenses and later switch to FF body. No, I stick to APS-C DSLR cause I want a COMPACT body, and COMPACT lenses, too. My xxxD EOS cameras WITH battery grips are more than light weight compared to any FF DSLR without a battery grip. Even my xxD APS-C EOS was more than I wanted to carry all day around and I sold it. I even contacted Tamron and Tokina regarding APS-C compact UWA prime, and answers were negative.
So again, BRAVO for Samyang!
cangi: @ nemark. i have the 50mm f1.8 and the quality is very good. it is also small and light. nice lens!
Probably the only Sony lens worth a penny. 16mm is disaster. And so on... I have non, so I talk according to what I read (Photozone.de, users etc...)
Knowing the (POOOR) quality of Sony lenses, I`ll wait some practical results, tests and comments to create my own opinion. Nice collection of focal lengths and apertures, but discussable q. (Don`t confuse Sony with Zeiss-for-Sony.)
I am eager to see if there will be any compact UWA prime in the range 10-14mm. Only Fuji (14mm) and Oly (12mm) make them. No quality compact UWA prime lenses for EOS-M, NEX, or even APS-C DSLRs. Manufacturers think that their compact APS-C DSLRs are, for everybody, just a first step to full frame camera. A shame. With a compact camera, whether it is a APS-C DSLR or mirrorless, each user (or at least ME) wants a compact lens. Otherwise, what is the sense of a compact camera body?
mgrum: To everyone who thinks it's a stupid move to go up against the 135 f/2.0L - Zeiss are making this lens for different mounts, not just Canon. Thus there are many people for which the 135L is not an option!
Even for Canon users, both Zeiss 100mm macro and new 2/135mm are great close focusing f2 portrait lenses... Who can afford any of them.
Light Pilgrim: 90% of photographs are, even slightly, edited today and when viewed on the web, you will never tell a difference between a 135L and this Zeiss - so what is the point? 135L is only 50% of Zeiss's price and it has AF, which will shine on bodies like 1Dx and 5D MKIII.
What is the point to have an expensive MF lens on a body with a spectacular AF system where you can use AF 135L lens?
Well, I can talk for myself: I think this is a great portrait lens for both FF/crop bodies, and I focus portraits manually. At the moment I am using 1.8/105mm AI Nikkor on a D7000, and probably will never be able to justify this lens and D800, for example, but who can, should have a great portrait lens. Zeiss 2/100mm macro is another option. Both can close-crop face details.
I would like to see somebody makes compact primes for APS-C sensor, at least 14mm or wider UWA. Samyang is too huge on compact bodies, making their compactness obsolete.
North Borneo: OMG, what a disappointment. I hold my purchase for a year and this is what I've been waiting for? I can't wait another year. No build-in flash.
I vote for built-in EVF, not flash. EVF is what I need whenever I take a picture, flash only seldom, so it can sleep in my pocket most of the time... Idea of switching eyeglasses whenever I want to take a picture makes me sick and pain to my eyes.
Jerry-astro: Waited anxiously for this introduction and frankly am very disappointed. The lenses and the majority of the feature set look good, but the lack of an EVF? Massive FAIL IMHO. We just sold a Sony NEX-5 that we had as a second camera because the LCD was simply impossible to use for reasonable composition on a bright, sunny day. In all other respects, the camera worked quite well. Our hope was to replace it with the EOS-M system. While the system may over time evolve with models that support EVF, frankly, it's not worth the wait. Nice try, Canon, but not good enough.
I agree with you for EVF, but for another reason, as well: my aging eyes no more have accommodation for close eye-focusing, and switching eye-glasses (I use one pair for looking far away - I don`t want bifocals for that, and another for camera LCD, another for PC monitor...) each time I want to take a picture is real burden. A BUILD-IN EVF is only what helps.
qwertyasdf: EOS-M (298) + 18-55 kit (120) = 418g650D (575) + 18-55 kit (200) = 775g
418 / 775 = 53.9%
Weight savings are nice for kit lens users.
But no EVF sucks for us with aging eyes (all of you shall get sunken to that coast), so I`ll stick to xxxD EOS cameras so far.
Koulang: Why there is no wide angle or tele lenses like 10mm, 200m or 300mm for mirroless camera?
EF 200 and 300mm lenses via adapter should be OK, if you want them, but I`d appreciate a 10 or 12mm compact and quality (and cheap ;)) rectilinear prime. I miss one for xxxD (APS-C) line, too.
AshMills: Presumably the adapter for EF lenses is not optical, so should be dirt cheap?
I`d expect it to cost somewhere as a Extension Tube EF 25 II, but third party adapters should go for much less.
stelioskritikakis: i'd like an EF version of the 22mm f/2 :Djust like the 40mm 2.8 pancake
...and 10 or 12mm UWA prime pancake, too.(of the quality of the 40mm) ;-)
Just another mirrorles without built in EVF. Can`t afford that luxury for my aged eyes, no matter of other qualities. For me, a good EVF is criterion number one!
And, who needs one?
Everything looks nice but.... I hope when it comes to production it will have REMOVABLE tripod collar.(And hope for an 4/300mm and 5.6/400mm non-mirror prime (IS?) from some of the third party manufacturers in a near future.)
caramelised: I'm a Nikon user and am looking hard for a 70-200mm option.If disregarding price I can either have the original VR version or the VRII version (I have doubts about the Sigma 70-200mm OS's optical quality).
If this turns out be as good as the Canon 70-200mm f/4... then I have another option on my short list.
But it is long discontinued and hard to find...
AbrasiveReducer: I still wish someone other than Sigma had taken on Foveon sensors. Tremendous potential but probably not with Sigma behind it. I still use the DP1 and it doesn't need any improvments in sharpness, detail or lens quality. But green corners, magenta blotches, etc are a real drag. And no, I did not get a bad one.
John D., I presume we are talking in this thread about Foveon sensors in Sigma cameras generally ("I still wish someone other than Sigma had taken on Foveon sensors."), no matter interchangeable lenses or not, and that's why my comment.
...And you can use only Sigma lenses on these bodies, no matter how good these bodies are. To be honest, I have nothing against Sigma lenses as I use a lot of them on both Nikon and EOS cameras (and of some I can only dream), but would not like Sigma lenses as my only choice. Even if all are excellent.
tkbslc: Can you imagine if you were one of the tens of people that bought it at full price? I can't even fathom how much you would hate Sigma right now for that several thousand dollar bath your SD-1 just took.
You buy that expensive Sigma camera only if you are IN LOVE with Sigma. So no reason to hate Sigma. I have nothing against Sigma (I use a lot of their lenses), but would never buy a body - no matter how good, that is doomed to it`s brand lenses only. I use both EOS and Nikon cameras, but still think Sigma, Tamron, Tokina, Samyang... have some lenses that suite my needs better (or ARE better). And vice versa.