robbinsbox: its a shame. cost cutting interrupts long term strategy, product finally looked good but marketing/distribution fail and hard times at the mobile business was the clincher. reduced scale will probably slow/stop? new lens. current range ok+ but we always want more. on the other hand other camera makers will be relieved that they are not the first to fal (yet), in particular the mirrorless apsc guys. samsung still have a huge sensor business and high market share in asia, we just dont know how profitable/lossy:) this is, so could easily see a return to europe+ at some point. I hope they do. Sony have apsc lens on the backburner (and not so good to begin with) leaving fuji. competition good 'mkay
> cost cutting interrupts long term strategy
Somebody who had followed Samsung NX for many years, I can assure you that there is no, and never was, such thing as "long term strategy" there.
"In the <insert-country-name>, we have seen a gradual and sustained decline in demand for standalone digital cameras and camcorders and related accessories."
They have made so many stupid mistakes, that even for me who followed Samsung since the NX100 hard to recollect them all.
Market decline is one thing, but blaming it for their failure is exaggeration and IMO simply unjustified.
Samsung had great potential, but they never really listened to the potential customers. An unforgivable error for a newcomer to the market.
Something had changed ~2-3 years ago in the imagine business management, but with both Fuji and Sony both already highly active, it was too late to capture sufficient market share.
SushiCub: Photoshop and now post processing for focusing - I hope people start realizing the importance of composition at the time of shooting more than ever (unless they crop lol) . Having expensive cameras just doesn't help for that.
"I hope people start realizing the importance of composition"
This is a tool when also the focus point plays important role.
Not all lenses are parfocal yet, and the composition might change subtly depending on where the focus is.
"Having expensive cameras just doesn't help for that."
I think you clicked the wrong link. You definitely wanted the A7r2 review. ;)
photohounds: Interesting, Olympus was also working on 2 variations of this idea at the same time.
Theirs are called Focus Bracketing and Automatic Focus Stacking (it happens in-camera and the original shots are also kept as separate files).
They went public a couple of months ago.MFT - more useful every day!
> My A7 is smaller than most Panasonic cameras.
Nice use of, if I'm not mistaken, the "red herring" fallacy. Let me try too: "my GX7 is smaller than most Sony cameras." It works! /s
> Bundled with 3 primes [...]
But as soon as you put the lenses on, the "A7 is smaller than most Panasonic cameras" turns into the "A7 is larger than any Panasonic camera".
I'm not sure why people keep praising atrocious ergonomics of the Sony. I've spent years trolling m43 forums to stop the mindless miniaturization of the cameras. And thanks gods, we now have the m43 cameras with decent grip, which are still highly portable because the lenses are still literally twice smaller than on the Sony FE mount. (Except the Zeiss Loxia ones - but who needs this manual focus sentimental junk.)
Jeff Seltzer: I haven't even looked at the photos, but I'm sure they are mostly boring, and no doubt I could create the same images if only I was at the same location. Also, they look just like everything else, and I don't see the big deal.
> and I don't see the big deal.
And DR and sharpness are horrible. How dare he call himself a photographer. /s
Impressive stuff. #13 is my favorite.
Jacques Cornell: Interesting, but I don't see how this would fit into an efficient workflow for editing thousands of photos. It'd take way more time & effort to capture all this extra data and then select the one frame than to simply shoot it right the first time. And, who on earth wants to edit an entire wedding on the camera instead of on a computer? Ugh.
Some more info here:
"Only problem with a tiny sensor not much of focusing is needed anyway..."
Spoken like a true pro photographer.
"Interesting, but I don't see how this would fit into an efficient workflow for editing thousands of photos."
You do not get the "thousands of photos". Since this is a sub-function of the 4K video capture, you get one 4K video file (with 30 frames) per "shot".
"And, who on earth wants to edit an entire wedding on the camera instead of on a computer? Ugh."
IIRC, the Panasonic App for iOS/Android provides the interface to extract the frames from 4K video too. On PC/Mac, any video editing software too allows to extract single frames. But why not also offer a possibility to do that on camera?
Pana tried very very hard to convince me that I need to upgrade my GX7...
ablok: Soooo, this or the LX100?
@ablok, Sony RX100 mk2 is the closest - but the lens is only 28-100mm eq.
Seeky: Is it me or is the image quality bordering on horrible? Or am I missing something about this "phenomenal and large imaging sensor" (that's how Canon calls it)??
And I have said it before: When processing the RAW files, why not apply NR and CA removal?
Don't look at them at 100%.
> Or am I missing something [...]?
Those are real world images, not studio test in a controlled environment.
They are perfectly fine for the real world images. The quality we come to expect from the Sony's 20MP sensor.
Too many minor/major differences - zoom range, flip LCD, EVF hump, flash - to compare them directly.
LichtFan: Concerning the "new" layout: Please don't change to white. That looks like an apple ad. It is too space consuming and not as easily readable.
But it is soooo beautiful! It is obviously made for looking at - not reading from.
Mike FL: So DPR is retesting G7X which is exactly same lens + same sensor + same engine as G5X.
> to do good pictures
But the shooting experience doesn't have to be miserable.
Why suffer all the usual handicaps Canon puts into their compacts, when competition is several steps ahead *and* IQ is literally the same.
The thing going for these Canons is plummeting street price.
What about the AF speed? The same reluctant as in other Canon compacts?
PIXJIM: Just got a OM-D E-M5 II and let me say that this little beast is sharp, I mean very sharp with the PRO Lens series. I'm coming from Full Frame and APS-C. I do not have any regrets. Yes, Olympus have to work on their menu system and you have to understand the limitations of the micro 43 sensor, especially while doing night photography.
@sunjester "Something wrong when 300mm super slow lens is considered top of the line in a system."
Who said they are "top of the line"?
"Those are not long lenses they are the same fov as they would be on any nikon crop body with cropping."
*Rolling eyes* With sufficient cropping, even UWA on medium format is a tele...
And why you even bother to look at MFT? You have Nikon 1 and 200-500mm lens. As Nikon 1 right now is the CSC with the smallest sensor, nothing else could even possibly give you the comparable FOV.
RichRMA: Cell phone addicts rejoice.
> You must be the slowest battery switcher [...]
No. I'm just experienced, and not a shallow show off like you. Because I also count the time and overhead of: buying the extras, keeping the extras charged, getting the extras out of the bag, cursing if forgot them at home, finding a clean place to sit down and actually do the damn switch.
Lots of things are smooth and easy - if only one conveniently "forgets" about the logistics.
Peiasdf: The company that copied every single thing used in its product is demonstrating new techs.
I don't recall China have a April Fool's day.
> I don't. Is it?
Yes, it is. Huawei was founded by Chinese gov't in 80s to "copy" the landline switches from the Siemens. (How many here even know what a landline switch is?) But already by 90s they were producing switches which were actually better than the original. Since then, they have diversified into various communication and telecom manufacturing, and now are THE leading manufacturers of the communication equipment in the world. Only recently they have started producing consumer products under their own brand, mostly to popularize the name. But even before that, they were already an OEM manufacturer for many better known brands of the mobile phones. IOW they have designed and manufactured phones longer than they have sold them under their own name.