Craig from Nevada: This camera targets a very narrow market segment.
I wonder how deep the market segment is for full-frame astrophotography? How many cameras they need to sell to breakeven and who percentage of the market this represents?
This move makes sense. The DSLR world is changing and this is a niche that might be profitable.
Thanks rrccad, So would a 2" focuser fill a FF sensor?
To be honest though, with the built in filter, I would probably use the d810 as a guided wide field camera.
Stephan Def: IMO Nikon has lost it. Instead of putting focusing motors and image stabilization on all of their DSLR's they do this ... I mean how many will they actually sell? Will they even be able to recover their costs on that model?
p.s. oh, nearly forgot this: and they discontinue capture-nx2 with no adequate alternative, leaving their niche professional clientele scratching their heads about how to do any serious post processing of their highly customized nikon raw files.
It will cost virtually nothing, its a pre existing product that they are selling for a Premium. They will not sell tons of them, but they will consistantly. Does not hurt them to compete with canon in this niche.
justmeMN: "Serious Nikon fans are disappointed today. No D7200. No D300s followup. No new lenses. No radio activated flash. Not even a new Nikon 1 product." -Thom Hogan
Yeah It sucks, we only have the D810, the D750 and the D7100. What a bunch of crap.
So rrccad, which one do you shoot with?
photoclassestampa: What a disappointment. I was hoping the new iteration of the 5D (I have the MK III) would be higher resolution (yep), with wi-fi, even higher expandable ISO, more FPS and 4k or better video. So disappointed! I thought the 7D MKII was a hand down meaning the new 5D would kick. But nuttin'. I am a photojournalist and need a camera that keeps up with the latest technology, not one that can deliver more pixels than I could ever use. C'mon Canon. You used to be better than this.
Horses for courses. This is a 50 mp studio monster. Not a general carry around. I mean you could, but the 5D3 is perfect for that. I think Canon will protect the 5D3/4 and not compete directly with it. The new samples look very promising..
Terry Breedlove: Ok so 50 MP is cool for some but way over kill for most. It just seems that Canon and Nikon are still in the megapixel wars when other companies such as Olympus and Sony are innovating and producing new cameras chocked full of technologies most of us really want and need. The two big boys at the top are living in yesterdays reality building boring plastic bubble cameras.
Point is, Oly Sony and Fuji have had their marvelous small cameras out for at least a couple of years, and their sales numbers and market share remain about the same.
Your points would have merit if Nikon and canon did not destroy the others sales wise. Market talks, BS walks.
obsolescence: Canon appears to be frantically working to catch up with the game, with the introduction of this camera. However, that big fat 11-24mm WA zoom lens demonstrates how they are still one of the best in lens design and manufacturing. This serves to remind us there will be top-notch high end cameras to come, for those who can afford them.
If it competes with the Nikon 14-24 it will be very good indeed.
xval: looks like trolls are getting organized. Canon gives new supper resolution camera which has reasonable price and many uses. "No, no,.. we want Nikon!"
To be honest most of the disappointment seems to be coming from disappointed Canon users, not trolls.
I think it will be fine. The samples are brilliant. It maybe the best in controlled shoots, probably not the greatest as a carry anywhere.
Peiasdf: DOOMED before it even came out. SONY A900/A850 came out when the competitions only have 5D2 and D700 at $600-$800 more and A900/A850 didn't make a dent in the FF market. SONY also have a full line of FF lenses for the Alpha twins.
Now the competitions have 6D, 5D3, 5D4, D610, D750, D810, DF not to mention SONY's A7 series. Pentax lenses for the last 15 years are also all geared toward APS-C.
Ricoh knows their market, They will make some money on their loyal fans. Choices are good. They may not sell millions, but they don't have to. Supporting their base with an upgrade path is vital, it could have come sooner, but better late than never.
Russell Evans: "Some of us have been around long enough to remember the last time Pentax announced a full-frame DSLR, way back in 2001."
And some of us are smart enough to know isn't the same company making this announcement.
You know Russell, Just because new company owns Pentax doesn't make them totally "different". In the past twenty years our company has been owned by Rockwell, Caterpillar and Emerson, and it didn't change our company much other than the sign on the building. I'm pretty sure Pentax staff didn't all get sacked when Ricoh or Hoya took over. But nice of you to correct DPR and get into a public spat
Zvonimir Tosic: Dual OVF/EVF overlay andAdjustable translucency of the mirror Are what some expect from this little machine. Once a Ricoh’s manager said openly that they are working on an FF camera which is unlike anything else on the market. They also said openly they wait for EVF tech to mature enough to be taken seriously. See (below) Ricoh’s patent for the latter, for example, which describes the amount of reflected light to visible light in range of 0-50%, and the amount of transmitted light in the range of 50-100%. Phase AF or contrast AF, you decide it, and when you want it. It is best of what both mirrorless and SLR design can offer, and still being faithful to tradition and millions of lenses produced. If the VF coverage is 100% and optical magnification high enough, this may be shooter’s dream camera. A pure genius of thinking outside the box.http://egami.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2014-11-27
Don't forget the pretty lights.
Congrats to the Pentax crowd! Good things come to those who wait springs to mind. One certainty is it will be a damned fine camera, they have had a while to plan it out. It will be interesting following this story this year.
PeaceKeeper: I am taking the votes towards the X-T1 much more seriously than the ones for the a7 II or even D750.
The a7 II has been out for far too little time to really see it's impact. People voting for it are simply excited about something new. The D750 has been out a few more months, and it's impressive to see it competing with the A7 II. But, the X-T1 has been out nearly a full year, and STILL creates excitement among users. That counts much more than any release hype, IMO.
I think had this vote been taken... say, 6 months from now, the X-T1 would still be the camera people are talking about, and would have won easily, with the D750 runner up.
I like Fuji, I wouldn't mind having one for a second system if they were not so expensive. Bottom line? FF images are better. I shoot a lot of available light, and if I am going to spend a ton of money, I want the best. right now, that's the D750, IMO.
"The D750 is a sign of the times, no doubt, but in the end it's just a reaction. The X-T1 is a catalyst."
But in the end, it's about taking pictures. The D750 is a camera. Because sometimes, good enough is not good enough.
xpanded: Que? Only one camera actually won by getting one or more vote(s) than number two. So which camera actually won? D750 or A7ii?
This way supporters of both can assume they won. I am qute sure the Nikon won because it had actually taken the lead the last day before Sony roared back and tied it. :^).
It really doesnt matter. Two great cameras, one traditional, one cutting edge. Both with unique strengths. And two of the best cameras available.
The 750 will outsell the Fuji, and have better IQ, AF and tracking. It won't look as retro.
krazeyez: What the hell? Wasn't this decided already? How come we have another vote round?
Nikon didn't like the result and we had to make sure that it would be a "tie"?What a joke.
Late last year we asked you to vote for your favorite products of the 2014 in four categories: best lens, best high-end compact camera, best enthusiast ILC and best high-end ILC. Voting ran through January 20th and the results are in. Thanks to the many thousands of you who participated. Click through to see the results of our 2014 readers' polls, or skip to end for a chance to vote on the overall winner, which we'll announce next month.
photog4u: Last chance to vote people cuz if Sony wins this thing instead of Nikon, many here at DPR will be spending the weekend sitting Shiva :)
Stop reading through your fanboi tinted glasses.
In 2014 DPR reviewed A7: Silver, A7R: Gold, RX10: Gold, A6000: Gold, RX100: Gold.
They also previewed the A5100 and the A77II, both with positive comments to the point they would almost certainly receive Gold or Silver.
They also reviewed 2 Sony lens. So, 8 Camera reviews, 5 Gold, 1 silver, 2 to be determined. Thats the most reviews of any manufacturer, with the highest award average.
They must really dislike Sony. I wish they disliked Nikon as much.
Some people just really blow my mind.
Ronald A Yorko: Just a totally bogus poll showing limited selections favoring certain products at the exclusion of so many others. Too biased in preselected product for this poll to mean anything at all.
This poll is culmination of the winners of category polls from the end of 2014.