Sad Joe: I am sure that this new camera will fine - it's only with cheaper FF cameras that Nikon's QC seems to have gone of a cliff - having said that the main improvement over the D7100 seems to be a decent sized buffer ( at last) - which I am not 100 % certain Nikon could not have done via a decent software update…then again they need to flog new kit….FLARE test coming DPR ???
It would be a good trick to increase buffer memory with a software upgrade. Look, the 7100 was awesome to begin with, this improves on it with improved AF, IQ (Sony) and buffer. Thats enough to keep at the top of cameras in its class. Pretty well specced at 1200 if you ask me. The new Multi-CAM 3500DX II is pretty much pro level.
Couscousdelight: -3Ev sensitivity, Like a 3 Y.O. Pentax K5IIs...wow !In 2020, USB 3 should be available for Nikon expert cameras.
And the Nikon will still out AF the Pentax 6 ways from Sunday.
rarecoinman: Question is should someone who is not in bed with a brand pick D7200 kit for 1696 or buy a canon 6d for 1999?
Or actullay compare apples to apples like The D610 and the 6D. The D7200 and 6D are apples and oranges. The one has a way better AF and is cropped, and the other is an incredible high ISO machine. What do you shoot?
prossi: Seems Canikon are not getting the fact that DSLR market is imploding and that there are way too many cameras plus all the old models that are still good enough and never really go away. Incremental updates like these are not going to cut it. And they are also not getting that the only people buying DSLR are people hanging out on this site. Who among the readers here has the time and inclination for cameras like nikon D3xxx D5xxx & canon rebel line? If you have $700 for a D5500 then you have $1800 for a 7DII. Sell 1ff, 1apsc, 1ff pro concept so stratospherically priced that nobody's going to buy - that's all you need. Make them really nice save the money on logistics and part farms.
And what your not getting is that while the market maybe imploding, Nikon and Canon Still control 80% of the market. They maybe making less money, but they are still doing better than the others.If you think that 1200 for this camera is strato priced buy a fuji or Oly. Oh, wait, NM, they are even higher.
phoenix15: What a fantastic camera... Not !Sorry Nikon, you can't compete with Canon EOS 7D II. Even the 2 years old pentax K-3 beats you in many aspect. With that price tag, if I have money I will buy Olympus OMD 5 II.
Are you kidding? Whats the weak point? This camera has the same AF as the D750, which is one of the best, if not the best, AF in the world. Blows all those you mentioned away except perhaps the Canon. Sealed, good buffer, great IQ, fast. This is going to be one of Nikon best sellers, it fixed all the week points holding back the D7100, for under $1200.00.
koolbreez: I don't really see a reason to upgrade from already owning the D7100. Increased buffer, and built in WiFi, as opposed to the plugin module, don't justify spending $1200 for these minor upgrades. There are no significant improvements to justify the cost IMO.
The Sony sensor will be better, as will the AF, but true, this is certainly not aimed a current users. I certainly won't buy the 7100 now I know this has the Sonty sensor. I always thought the 7100 was a bit gritty. But that brings up the subject of why upgrade every generation. Bit expensive.
nicolaiecostel: No flip screen, only 6 fps when the 7Dmk2 is 10 fps, USB 2.0, only 1920x1080, same sensor.
Why did Nikon bother, for a buffer upgrade ? And where is the 7Dmk2 rival ?
this camera never was a Mkii Rival. Its still a pretty damned fine camera for the price with a very mature feature set. Except for 10 fps I would take this camera over the Canon just based on the Sony sensor.
attomole: I don't see many comments just saying what a great article this is, nice to see it in use real world use rather than lab and just the testament of the reviewer. The The quality of the photography and video was great. please put up some stills.
Stephan Def: IMO Nikon has lost it. Instead of putting focusing motors and image stabilization on all of their DSLR's they do this ... I mean how many will they actually sell? Will they even be able to recover their costs on that model?
p.s. oh, nearly forgot this: and they discontinue capture-nx2 with no adequate alternative, leaving their niche professional clientele scratching their heads about how to do any serious post processing of their highly customized nikon raw files.
Sorry, I would never switch to Penatx for something I already have. As nice as Pentax cameras are, their lens selection is too limiting IMO. Besides, Nikons implementation of VR is extremely good, 4-5 stops, and works flawless, and cameras with IBIS, their lens are really not any cheaper. Or better.
Actually, Edgar who wants everyone to know he is from Indy, Nothing about Pentax makes me feel uncomfortable. But Nice childish remark. I knd of like 4 stop stabilization in my lens. It works better on the long lens where its needed the most.
Craig from Nevada: This camera targets a very narrow market segment.
I wonder how deep the market segment is for full-frame astrophotography? How many cameras they need to sell to breakeven and who percentage of the market this represents?
This move makes sense. The DSLR world is changing and this is a niche that might be profitable.
Thanks rrccad, So would a 2" focuser fill a FF sensor?
To be honest though, with the built in filter, I would probably use the d810 as a guided wide field camera.
It will cost virtually nothing, its a pre existing product that they are selling for a Premium. They will not sell tons of them, but they will consistantly. Does not hurt them to compete with canon in this niche.
justmeMN: "Serious Nikon fans are disappointed today. No D7200. No D300s followup. No new lenses. No radio activated flash. Not even a new Nikon 1 product." -Thom Hogan
Yeah It sucks, we only have the D810, the D750 and the D7100. What a bunch of crap.
So rrccad, which one do you shoot with?
photoclassestampa: What a disappointment. I was hoping the new iteration of the 5D (I have the MK III) would be higher resolution (yep), with wi-fi, even higher expandable ISO, more FPS and 4k or better video. So disappointed! I thought the 7D MKII was a hand down meaning the new 5D would kick. But nuttin'. I am a photojournalist and need a camera that keeps up with the latest technology, not one that can deliver more pixels than I could ever use. C'mon Canon. You used to be better than this.
Horses for courses. This is a 50 mp studio monster. Not a general carry around. I mean you could, but the 5D3 is perfect for that. I think Canon will protect the 5D3/4 and not compete directly with it. The new samples look very promising..
Terry Breedlove: Ok so 50 MP is cool for some but way over kill for most. It just seems that Canon and Nikon are still in the megapixel wars when other companies such as Olympus and Sony are innovating and producing new cameras chocked full of technologies most of us really want and need. The two big boys at the top are living in yesterdays reality building boring plastic bubble cameras.
Point is, Oly Sony and Fuji have had their marvelous small cameras out for at least a couple of years, and their sales numbers and market share remain about the same.
Your points would have merit if Nikon and canon did not destroy the others sales wise. Market talks, BS walks.
obsolescence: Canon appears to be frantically working to catch up with the game, with the introduction of this camera. However, that big fat 11-24mm WA zoom lens demonstrates how they are still one of the best in lens design and manufacturing. This serves to remind us there will be top-notch high end cameras to come, for those who can afford them.
If it competes with the Nikon 14-24 it will be very good indeed.
xval: looks like trolls are getting organized. Canon gives new supper resolution camera which has reasonable price and many uses. "No, no,.. we want Nikon!"
To be honest most of the disappointment seems to be coming from disappointed Canon users, not trolls.
I think it will be fine. The samples are brilliant. It maybe the best in controlled shoots, probably not the greatest as a carry anywhere.
Peiasdf: DOOMED before it even came out. SONY A900/A850 came out when the competitions only have 5D2 and D700 at $600-$800 more and A900/A850 didn't make a dent in the FF market. SONY also have a full line of FF lenses for the Alpha twins.
Now the competitions have 6D, 5D3, 5D4, D610, D750, D810, DF not to mention SONY's A7 series. Pentax lenses for the last 15 years are also all geared toward APS-C.
Ricoh knows their market, They will make some money on their loyal fans. Choices are good. They may not sell millions, but they don't have to. Supporting their base with an upgrade path is vital, it could have come sooner, but better late than never.