RichRMA: Think the the fact this review got almost 900 responses makes an impact on Nikon's management? It should. Had Nikon released a decent high-level DX camera a while ago, this one wouldn't have gotten the interest it has, mirror-less(ness) aside.
Lets see, the D7200 isn't even reviewed yet and its previews have almost 1100 hits.
It will also outsell the Samsung by what maybe 5-1?It has the highest test score ever for a crop sensor, it has incredible AF, the buffer has been inproved. Rich is in his usual whine at nikon mode. The samsung looks to be a fine camera, but the D7200 stands just fine on its own.
RichRMA: Your choices:This camera or:The latest Nikon DSLR with whatever QC problem it had this time.The latest Canon with sensor tech from 5 years ago.The latest Pentax, the K3 is a good one, but limited lens group.The latest Olympus, you need to like m4/3.The latest Fuji, mushy as the images are due to excessive noise reduction.The latest Panasonic, if video is your main goal.The latest Sigma, well, Foveon...The Sony DSLRs, hybrids, mirror-less. Good choices
"I think the kindest thing an engineer with a heart could do is to put a Nikon bayonet and the name, "D400" on the Samsung body. Nikon serious DX'rs would weep for joy.'
Until they hadd to shoot or AF in low light.
shademaster: for all the "arm-chair" pros out there complaining about lack of glass, I imagine the *real* pros are very happy with: i) fast standard zoom, ii) fast tele zoom, iii) fast portrait lens for 95% of their work. FWIW, as an amateur, the 30mm + 45mm + 85mm makes a great arsenal. I don't know what you "we need more glass…. it's all about the system" people want, really.
Ehhmm, Pretty sure the "real" pros are not shooting with this camera. I have a D750, and even that is an "enthusiast" camera, ot a "pro".
It's a very nice camera, but lets not get carried away.
King of Song: This is war!
Samsung seems to have the ambition, and the technology to trump the Japanese? Their big problem is with their lens line. It's a very big deal to compete with Canon and Nikon in the lens department. But... if they can put out a camera with a full frame sensor, and get Zeiss, and Sigma Art to start building lenses with Samsung mounts. Then the Japanese may wind up with an unexpected kick in the teeth. Samsung has very deep pockets these days, and I'm sure has the desire to dominate this market.
I wait in anticipation for Samsung to put out a high-end full frame camera, that will kick the butts of Canon, Nikon, and Sony... When that happens, I'll be the first to put my current system on eBay..
This is a disturbing post in so many ways.
dominic2: Hope they will improve the low light performance. Then they can wipe out the rest of the market.
At 6400 with lowlight clicked, the nikon easily beats the NX. Not even close. with the normal lighting they are very close.
vesa1tahti: Fortunately, can't reach the same IQ as D7200 does. But, anyway, congratulations to Samsung !
Maybe, but over 3200 lowlight the 7200 is clearly better. and not a little.
sandy b: Beautiful camera, great feature set. I'll take another look when they get the low light hi ISO figured out.
Your right, I was looking at the 7200 where is is clearly lagging. Never thought to check the 5300.
Beautiful camera, great feature set. I'll take another look when they get the low light hi ISO figured out.
Sad Joe: Its all about money people (and power) understand that Canon may be the only camera maker who is actually making any profits and camera production is only part of the Canon brand. As for Olympus - try to find the BBC programme on the net about their 'dealings' - I use Olympus (as well as several other brands) and love their Zukio glass - but their SMT - No way, Never. Sad.
Nikon has never NOT made a profit in a quarter.
Mike FL: It was then:FUJI X100 = Leica M Body + Fuji sensor
Now:Nikon 1 J5 = Pana GM1 body + SONY (?) sensor
But:At least that Fuji's sensor is developed by Fuji self so does Pana.
BTW:Pana GM1's kit zoom is much wide/useful than Nikon, not mention M43 sensor is larger than 1" even (possibly) this J5's body is larger than Pana GM1.
Not bad as a later start.
What, you want a book or something? So, Ok, for my book, why do you spend so much time attacking Nikon. Is it an impulse you can't control? They make pills for that.
Anyway, for the price this looks like a pretty decent camera, without knowing the quality of the new sensor. We already know the AF will be class leading, and the new controls are a big plus. The price is where it should have been years ago. It will be interesting to see if the new sensor and other improvement make there way into a new V series camera.
Nikon has pretty much said with this new release that they are in it for the long haul with the 1 system.
And maybe they are getting it (more) right.
Sorry Mike, you spend so much time spreading FUD about Nikon it's rather easy to give you a dig. You do set yourself up, you know.
dynaxx: Re the long debate below about DPR's policy on the prioritisation of camera reviews ; what happened to the old pre-commercialisation DPR's aim to be a leader of opinion not a follower ?
When DPR staff/journalists say they are responding to the volume of interest from their followers it is a feeble cop-out when most photography enthusiasts urgently want to know about the groundbreaking/state of the Art cameras to keep in touch with developments in the industry. Devoting all that time and effort to reviewing re-hashed Canikons must be as frustrating for the journalists as it is for the bloggers.
The point is that the lesser lights in terms of camera sales ( Sigma, Samsung, Pentax, etc. ) have no choice but to innovate to grow their market shares forcing them to differentiate their products by innovating.
( when this comment finds its way into the DPR stat's it will give another "tick" to Nikon !!! )
Like it or Not, Canon and Nikon drive a much higher rate of hits. Business is business, you publish what the most people want to see. I think DPR does an excellent job reviewing all brands. Sony is third in DSLR sales and yet had more camera reviews than Canon and Nikon last year.
dfsaqwe: I recently sold an EM1 kit looking to downgrade to something more midrange (life+priority changes, etc). Was hoping to look back into a Nikon but I'm just thoroughly unimpressed. The technology seems almost a generation or two behind what I left behind on m43.
Also being spoiled by 5 axis sensor IS ...
Maybe so, but which of them will have better IQ and AF for the same price?
Kinda stepped in it there, didn't ya Mike. Oh well, your used to it by now.
Brucies Heroes: Incredible to see the noise performance of this 24 MP sensor. I would say all in all that is currently the best APS-C sensor on the market.
Looking at the NX1 low light raw iso 3200, the Nikon is clearly showing more detail, and a bit more noise, the samsung is loosing some detail, looks like the samsung has some default NR going on in raw.
Finally, they look to have gotten the right camera at the right price. Now if the sensor is the Sony, it maybe will live up to the hype.
Vegetable Police: I actually like the camera. I kind of wish it was a fixed lens compact though like the rx100 or g7x. Those kit lenses aren't looking so fun.
I just picked up a coolpix A for about $300. Terrific little camera.
mosc: I still think the main issue with the 1 system is the lenses. They're all too slow and too expensive. If they were cheaper and faster the entire system would look different. They should offer f1.4 to f2.0 pancake primes for <$300 at 8mm, 10mm, 13mm, and 19mm. That 10-100 zoom aught to be f4.0 and cost ~$500. Adding a few ounces of glass and cutting some profit margin would make these things fly off the shelf.
ogl: Such system with 1" sensors needs faster lenses. 3.5-5.6 is no good at all.
There are fast lens.