pacnwhobbyist: An interesting thing to do is go to your local camera shop - ask to handle the A7r II and try it out. Then ask to see the Nikon D750 and try that out. In that order.
Other than 4K video, what shots could you take that i couldn't get just as well or better with my D750?
Cihangir Gzey: Good review with loads of negative points to warn against a dissapointment later on.This is a 3200-USD MILC which will be changed with a new one next year and value will drop dramatically and only God & Sony knows when a firmware upgrade will come to clear up this beefy software related cons list partially. Hardware related ones will stay there until it becomes a true paper weight. IMO the below items can't be corrected up with any firmware upgrade and real deal breakers for current DSLR users (I only use copy-pasted items partially to avoid being over limit):
Camera focuses stopped down in AF-C, ...Eye-AF and Lock-on AF not available ...Camera drops to 12-bit mode ...Exposure parameters frozen while AF-C is engagedButtons and dials ...Inane interactions ...Buffer is sluggish ...Video never shows low-light advantage of full frame sensor4K shot continuously for 30-45 min can cause overheatingNo touchscreenVery limited battery life (IMHO, THIS IS THE ROOT OF MANY PROBLEMS)
I agree, very long con list for a gold camera. Compare to the D750. 12 bit and battery are pretty bad for this price. Still, the camera appears to be a great addition to the lineup, and Sony is upping their game. I would still take a D810 or D750 over it.
JakeB: I would never buy such an ugly looking camera.
I don't think it's ugly at all. having held one though, it's ergos are awful. I could not shoot with one for an extended time. I know Sony is putting all its cameras in the black can, and saving a ton of money doing it, but it is not designed for comfort.
shadowfax123: I think people really miss the point of speciality, niche cameras such as the A7RII, D810, and 5DS. Simply, they are designed for fine detail work. Period! I have had people come up to me with a 5DS or a A7RII and show me pictures of wildlife, sports, and events. Great! I'm glad they can get some good shots. At least Canon states the obvious about the 5DS "Perfect for commercial and fine art photography." Sony really doesn't indicate the limitations of the A7RII for sport/event photography.
These are all great cameras, but they are simply not designed as generalist, all-around cameras. Of course, you can use them in that way. However, I'd rather go on vacation with with my D750 than my very limited D800. That is, if I could only take one camera. So many people on the Nikon forums declare the 810 the best Nikon camera. I think it's because it's the only camera they own. Then they go and slap a 24-85 on it. Yikes! LOL.
I really have to say the D810 would have done pretty good on this test. It's no d4 but I have a bud who uses one as his back up to a D3s and I never hear him complaining.
Arkienkeli: I have switched from Nikon D4/D800e to Fujifilm X-T1 system for most of my documentary assignments. Small, light, unassuming, quiet. Enjoying it more, better pictures.
Not so much.
lorenzo de medici: Personal reaction: 1. The high end cameras from Sony, Canon, and Nikon are all superb picture taking machines. The only surprise there is how quickly Sony matched and then surpassed the companies with a much longer history in photography. Teaming up with Zeiss for lenses was a great move.2. File size. If you spend a couple of hours shooting 5 fps bursts, you go home with thousands of images to sort through. Then file size and battery life become issues. The D750 wins here. Sony trails the pack. The little battery is a deal breaker for me.3. What feels good to you. My D810 feels good in my hands and allows me to forget about the camera, think about the image. The best shots are taken in your mind's eye first, then hopefully captured as much as possible by the camera. One's own ability to use the camera successfully allows a great camera to capture your unique vision. That isn't included in the box that the camera comes in.
Lorenzo, re-reading this post from a month ago, I have to agree with you. Apologies for my over reaction.
Retzius: Nice video! Unfortunately, it really underscores Nikon's poor attitude towards DX users. If you are going to use all pro level FX glass and pro lighting (like in the video) you aren't going to buy a semi-pro DX camera... It is rather awkward that you need pricey pro FX glass to showcase your flagship DX product. If Nikon had made a smaller, less expensive, f2.8 trinity for DX I could see the point of a video like this, but the way things stand it seems like failed vision on Nikon's part.
I shoot DX and FX, I would never buy DX lens. My Nikon primes and 70-200 F4 are excellent on my D7100.
Greg Ness: I'm looking at the RAW, ISO 100 comparison between the Canon 5DS R, Sony a7R II, and the Nikon D810. Why are the Nikon RAW file sizes so large?Nikon file size = 74.4MBCanon file size = 63.9MBSony file size = 41.4MN
Henrikw: This certainly hasn't put me off acquiring this little beast. Combined with the amazing AF capabilities, Sony has shown Canon and Nikon what innovation looks like. Watch and learn. Well done Sony!
Rishi, you done any high speed action shooting with the Sony?
"Surpass"? LOL, the fanboi is strong in this one.
MacroBokeh: In real world... when using in the field the Canon 5DSR and Nikon D750 or D810 and Sony A7rM2. You will have to consider the Front Focus or Back Focus issue on DSLR, then you have to rethink and calibrate the lens and camera however on the mirrorless A7rM2, you don't have to worry those front focus or back focus issue. Then again, that affects the sharpness and resolution.
I have never had to calibrate the AF of any of my Nikons including the D3 and the D750. What is the "issue" you speak of. How about the issue of having to use clunky lens adaptors because Sony dosent make enough of their own lens. Thats a REAL issue for most shooters.
misspiggy01: there is no significant difference in noise between the BSI sensor and the one in the D810.i´m wondering if the BSI concept has more to do with heat management for internal 4K recording. something that sony didn´t dare with the previous generation.
if the D820 will have that BSI sensor canon will have a real problem with the VDSLR crowd. if i were invested in canon glass, now would be the time to switch to a sony body with the af-adaptor. it is so much better.
I actually compared it to the D750, ISO 6400>, low light, raw, in the darkest areas, and was very impressed with the the 750. Granted the Sony is very impressive indeed considering it's density, but not needing north of 24 mp, I find the Sony sensor in the 750 the Goldilocks of sensors. YMMV. Kudos to Sony sensor developers.
TylerQ: Who cares. I'm very happy with my D750 and it's low light performance. Don't need a mirrorless and don't want one.
Rishi, How would Sony do in a head to head shootout in low light sports vs the 750? Or say the girl on the horse?
Stollen1234: hmm let say when you win the Football (soccer) championship in europe it means a lot because it is the motherland of Football( Soccer) same thing with Photography..remember first camera wehre built in France and then in Germany so europe is being considered as the motherland of photography...and winning wait its a sweep of this european Award means a lot
More like the every one wins an award club. They all take turns passing the trophys around from year to year.
straylightrun: Finally, a mirrorless camera that can not only replace, but exceed a bulky DSLR.
Looks superb. But I haven't seen BIF or fast sports, so I am not really sure we can say it exceeds the D810, D750 or D4 and soon to be D5 at anything except resolution.
sandy b: Nice feature set. The J1 matches for IQ upto 3200. I think it's too expensive.
My bad, I meant the J5.
Nice feature set. The J1 matches for IQ upto 3200. I think it's too expensive.
sportyaccordy: Oh Nikon. Another month another recall.
Oh Sporty, another Nikon post, another troll.
millerman28: I would have to say these mishaps on Nikon's dslrs are ridiculous. I'm sure most of us who follow these forums are tired of this crap. These cameras like the D600, D750 aren't cheap. They should be trouble free for years. My Nikon D90 is still kickin but I have less trust in most of their newer cameras. Anybody else feel this way?
Nobody even mentioned this problem on the forum prior to Nikons advisory.
ryan2007: How do Nikon users stay faithful and how does Nikon not have a command over what they have been doing for 50 plus years.
Mainly because Nikon makes the best cameras. This problem was a surprise in the forum, I'm not sure if it was even reported before the announcement.