This thing is cleaner at ISO12800 than my cameras are at ISO1600-3200
This is amazing
They need to do like 4 or 9 cameras together. Then they won't need any algorithm, except to combine the images.
Lassoni: Laser af? wtf seriously I can't take this stuff seriously
Last I heard all light, regardless of wavelength, travels at the same speed in air but what do I know lol.
NicoSi: Min shutter speed setting in auto ISO. That would be a great update for these cameras. My hope dies today :(I will not buy an a6300, Sony.
@EthanP99 nobody said a camera shouldn't have manual control. Stop twisting my words around. Let me put it this way. What would you lose by having a minimum shutter speed setting added to the camera, with nothing else changed? Nothing. This is a stupid thing to argue against.
In the context of a shot, yea, turning a dial to find the right exposure or shutter speed to freeze motion can be "ages" if doing so means missing the shot. There is no downside or cost to having a minimum shutter speed setting, stop arguing just for the sake of arguing.
Not at all, actually. If you are moving between varying conditions this is actually pretty worthless. You will be fiddling with shutter speeds while the shot passes you by.
Could this be it?
marmotto: this is a bad message for the all samsung customer... also TV, Phone, etc. if i buy a samsung product can i hope for next year customer service ?
Being that they have been making TVs and phones way longer than they have ILCs, and have much bigger market shares in those markets, I would say those customers are fine.
And as far as customer service goes, I have a Samsung TV I bought in 2009.... it had a problem with the power adapter. They sent someone out free of charge to replace the power unit. I didn't have an extended warranty or anything and this was several years after I bought it. A lot of companies would have just said "oh well too bad" but Samsung fixed it. So their customers are OK.
Samsung could not make $$$ with these, bottom line. Pulling out of the market was the responsible thing to do. Look how people are rushing to buy NX gear now that the prices have dropped below what made sense for Samsung.
FRANCISCO ARAGAO: Whats the advantage of this over the Samsung K with 10 x optical Zoom?
Size, I'm guessing.
So much photographic functionality packed in. I'm not going to lie, I'm jealous! I hope they make smaller/cheaper/non WR one, maybe with a 24 MP sensor instead.
$250 question is whether or not it will work for non Sigma glass. If the answer is no I would rather forego Eye-AF and get a conventional adapter like a Fotodiox + IBIS in an A7II. Compared to this + an A7I it's only another ~$200.
This is probably a bigger deal for crop shooters looking for a decent basic zoom. A6000's nonexistent grip will kill the handling though.
Bram de Mooij: Please stop looking at smartphones as being cameras. They are not. They are phones. OK, they are the reason for the decline of the cheap point and shoot cameras. That only shows me that these point and shoots were not really cameras either :-) They were just toys with limited use. Most obvious shortcomings of those toys was the lack of features like mp3 playing, navigation and making phone calls. Just kidding of course.
The fact that the iPhone is the most popular camera on Flickr is misleading in my view. Since the iPhones and other smartphones exist a lot of people that never owned a camera in the first place started to shoot images. They were never potential enthousiast compact camera buyers. Maybe they will be some day :-)
@webrunner I have several prints in my house and at my office. Sadly enough some of the office prints are of Facebook pictures I downloaded
Bram clearly it does matter to you as you have been going back and forth about it for the last day or so.
Is there a market for compact digital cameras? No, as the collapse of the compact digital camera market has proven.
Why does it matter to you what people you don't know and will never meet take photos with?
Exactly. I think it's great that people are interested in photography at all. Sony makes phone sensors so that money and profit still benefits us.
There is no market for a standalone camera that has the same IQ as a smartphone.
You have to realize 20-30 years ago the people shooting smartphones today were shooting with crap 28mm F/8 35mm film compacts or disposable film cameras. Most people don't care about image quality beyond being able to decipher what the camera took the picture of.
Not to mention smartphones today outperform a lot of old ILCs in IQ. Everything is relative. Cameraphone photography is not a crime
If I am going to pay for and carry around a dedicated camera I want the best image quality and the most DoF control I can get for my $$$. For example an RX100 IV has the same DoF control as the 16-50 PZ. Is that little bit more portability really worth the drop in IQ and significantly higher cost vs an A6000 kit? An RX10 II is not fitting in any pocket and weighs 800+g!!!! An A6000 + Tamron 18-200 costs less and almost weighs less and you will be able to use other lenses if you want. I don't think it's any slower either. What utility are folks getting out of these? Seems like the worst of most worlds.