It's more than worth it for the 16mm 2.4! - NEX lens crybabies
Yea, this thing is DOA. Samsung needs to make an NX cellphone and make the price of entry lower through the typical cell phone contract subsidies.
bluevellet: Constant F4 is ok for telephoto, but why are they limiting themselves to f4 for the general zoom lens?
They could have made something faster by one stop (while probably sacrificing the zoom on the long end, to something more like 16-50). That lens would have made much more sense.
Digital sensors can't even fully render all the light and bokeh from a lens faster than ~1.8.
ogl: Will A-mount die?
No... they have too much equity in the Minolta system its based on to kill it off. Plus despite this one news article, the lion's share of Sony's camera sales are still A-mounts.
Tomskyair: If you think these things are big - wait until the FF NEX-style system arrives if it ever does. That system's lenses will make the new NEX lenses looking much smaller.
Maybe then the eager FF MILC adepts will eventually realize that a "faaaast" 2.8 standard zoom for FF is going to be huge and heavy regardless whether there's a mirror in the camera or not. "Where can I buy a large and heavy battery grip to balance this monster on my small and flimsy camera?"
Ever tried to cheat the laws of physics? Well, simply doesn't work as they are laws and not an opinion. And as APS-C is the second largest sensor format being used in consumer cameras it requires relatively large lenses especially when aiming at fast f-stops and decent quality.
Can you explain why yabokkie?
oselimg: These are exciting new lenses for E mount camera owners and look promising at least by their specifications but I also think that this is an indication Sony is not going to compete on FF DSLRS with Canon and Nikon.
Why not? They can and have been doing both. A successor to the A99 seems highly likely, especially considering Sony is making Nikon's sensors...
These are E-mount lenses. The cameras they go on are very small and light. A 2.8 zoom is anything but. Such heavy glass is not really appropriate for the platform.
AmateurSnaps: That sounds like the worst camera sony has made for quite some time
After all their innovation this just seems like a half hearted effort
Would much rather see a higher spec slr/mirrorless camera. Shame.
I think the A99 may begin to approach your rigorous demands.
jcmarfilph: Really? Spy cam? Will it go inside the cam?
It will only make you obvious that you are doing or taking something with a crappy phone cam.
Right, because a travelzoom/specialized equipment is less awkward/obvious than a smartphone.
Top of the line equipment isn't required for good photos.
Or I could just buy a medium camera.
I was at a real loss with that system.
Nikon needs to read the writing on the wall and create an Android phone platform. They can keep using the 1 system's sensors and do little fixed lenses.
IS is OK, but is kind of unnecessary if you make the sensor fast to begin with. Obv a totally different market/class, but many high end FX lenses don't even have IS. It's only for certain standard zooms and the big tele lenses. They should be focusing on making bigger sensors for cheap and getting more light onto them, rather than making them with more features
Someone made a very good point that this could be built into small sensor cameras to give them a bigger AOV...
Imagine a 1/2.3" camera with the light gathering ability of an FX... imperfect optics could be fixed by algorithms, and even if the glass added cost it would come nowhere close to the cost of an FX sensor...
The implications of this are huge...
I think a fixed lens APS-C would be fine. Camera phones have been doing well with a ~35mm equivalent FL for years now. Likewise general purpose film cameras made do with similar FLs. I don't think it's reasonable to demand that a cameraphone have the versatility of a DSLR with 30-40 years of glass. It would be better to address cameraphone's weaknesses in the context of their general audience & purpose than to make them something they're not. Make the lens fast for more dramatic portraits and low light shooting; trade resolution for sensitivity (both in color depth and high ISO performance); it will be perfect. Folks who need to do shooting of the moon and birds can make do with DSLRs.
Another step closer to the logical next step in cameraphones for serious photographers. I also like the idea of a hard connection, if for nothing else than to save battery life and speed up continuous FPS. A fully integrated case with an APS-C sensor would be great... maybe enough to not do the logical APS-C phone.
HaroldC3: Next up, Canon announces a 75x zoom P&S camera...c'mon folks.
I guess as long as you have people who think the more zoom the better companies will keep increasing the zoom range in these things.
The existence of this camera doesn't preclude the existence of others. It's definitely not my bag- I'd rather a good prime. But this development is good and will carry over to everything Panasonic does.
RichRMA: One question is, why is the point in a huge zoom number if at the end of that zoom the actual resolution is lower than at a shorter focal length? Why not just do the zooming electronically, and avoid the issues of hand movements, slow f-ratio, etc? This presupposes the camera will be delivering pretty poor images at the long end but who knows?
I am pretty sure optical zoom always resolves higher than digital zoom.
Gordon Monthomery: How many Nikon fanatics would love to have a Nikon branded phone? I am sure a phone with a Nikon lens and the Nikon logo on it would sell among the Nikon crowd.
Only if the OS is good. Nikon would be smart to piggyback onto the Android platform than to develop a proprietary OS that will never match up.
The heft is a downer but physics are physics. In any case, if I were still on a DSLR platform this would be ideal as most of my shots are taken in this focal range. But I don't think they will be able to shrink this down for something like a Sony NEX. In any case bravo to Sigma!
I still hope they give their wide angle 1.8 primes another shot. I would love a "budget" 24mm ~1.8 with AF.
I went from a D40 with about 6 lenses to a C3 with the stock zoom lens. Being honest in yourself and building ability rather than hiding behind equipment is always satisfying. G.A.S. is far from something limited to photography- I would almost say it's integral to Western culture.
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