jonte0: X-M1 is perfect, or?
erichK: Already owning an OM-D, I somewhat reluctantly decided to buy the EM-1 after getting a chance to try Calgary's The Camera Store review copy with half a dozen Four Thirds lenses when I passed through there a month ago, and finding that it worked much better with them than anticipated.
It was only after they were finally able to send me one that I was really able to really examine and try both cameras side by side, and fully comprehend just how much of a further refinement and improvement the EM-1 represents over the already very capable OM-D. Close examination and exploration of all the (many) features and functions shows that a great deal of thought and careful design engineering has gone into a superbly usable camera. The "feel' of the camera, that is the functional ergonomics are so good that they remind me of the E-1. They have even greatly impressed a "pro" friend who almost sleeps with his Nikon D3 and D4. It is a camera any that serious photographer should have a look at.
"that is the functional ergonomics are so good that they remind me of the E-1"
So much improvements: 10 years to go back to Essentials .... !
2 greats cameras, and E1 is a Bargain now ! :)
Henderson May: Is Canon making a digital "New F1"? seems Canon is more devoted in the film-making market these days..
I am wondering if this DF can use "split prism" MF aid..
No PB of AF nor Exposure with my Kateyes split screen on D700, even in spot metering, as max aperture of the lense > 5.6
JohnEwing: Pssst! Going cheap at only $2000:http://www.pbase.com/johnewing/image/151956472
But not at high ISO .....
D1N0: Why do the shots of the Nikon DF look more cropped than the other 24mp FF's? look less sharp at low iso and finer noise at high iso? Dit you shoot in some sort of crop mode?
No Crop, DF is not 24mm FF but 16
WhyNot: “By removing the mirror and optical viewfinder, manufacturers are able to make their cameras smaller, without compromising ergonomics, … “ ???? I'd like to suggest that unless you spend all your time on a tripod or using a camera as a computer that by keeping, and sometime increasing, the number of controls found on a DSLR that these smaller cameras do compromise ergonomics.... I own three mFT bodies (which I do like for many reasons) and find that too often when I'm shooting I find myself looking at a menu in the viewfinder or finding that a parameter has been unintentionally changed to my chagrin …. Even you write about the G6 that you don't like the “Tight controls and small buttons “ this is to me what ergonomics is mostly about..... These companies need to rethink the control and operations layout for these cameras or let the body fit the functions it was made for or specify hand size like they do for gloves... Well maybe I go too far....
Ok, But it's a small but serious mid*level mirrorless camera :)
for those who don't like rollei 35, there are other small pockettable, Minox 35 for instance (very good, but not as beautifull, nor solid than the Rollei), or a lovely Retina IIa :)The point is that FF is not the limit of the body, it's just 24x36mm, and than control or framing with somethingelse than a LCD;)
Look at Rollei 35, it's a perfect camera :)no need to be bigger for a FF Camera (this one has to deal with both side of the 135 cartidge, take one side for battery as on R-D1, the otherr for some electronics)
I don't care 1s of a LCD on the back, give a good OVF, and informations with Knobs and/or overlay like in the Fuji X20 !
spiderhunter: It appears that Canon and Nikon are so complacent with their toaster-sized DSLRs that they are blind to what is going around them. They can reduce the size of things but they just don't do it. The song "the times they are a-changing" comes to mind. Sure, they still have their lion's share of the pro market but I feel Sony has rocked the boat. The Sony FF mirrorless are still not there yet when it comes to AF tracking abilities ( but great for non-action work) and battery life but given time and more RD, they will get there. I hope the size of truly capable pro models will get lighter, not heavier.
Hand phones got lighter and smaller. The early models were gigantic by comparison. Compactness and portability is what manufacturers should aim for. Yes, there is a limit as to how small FF lenses can go but striving to reduce sizes and making things lighter are surely the way to go.
Go Sony, go! Show them the way!
Thankully, Nikon, Fuji, Epson, or Leica are (were for Epson) making what I want
Digitall: This camera has a very small sensor. Comparing it with the Kodak KAF 39900 sensor. It's a pity.
2.29x what is called "full frame" or 35mm format50.7x39mm²
Noise reduction and sharpening are so agressive, that none of the 2 girls have hairs above ISO 800, but black painted head
"as slim as OM-1" .....OM-1 is mirorless ?
may Progress to do to have camera as in the 70's, OM-1, Pentax Mx or ME-super, with small and tough body, small prism bump and large bright viewfinders ...
Mr Darma: no video! hooray.....pre-Ai lenses....hooray....my dreams come true...
Yes, but no telemetre, no split focus ......Just what I will miss from My D700+cateyes
But great camera :)
Yes, something ELSE !
aris14: Boring retros...Lack of fantasy...
Boring Pseudo Modern CameraThanks to Fantasy :)
CaptD: The review mentions that focusing screens aren't interchangeable... that is a shame. I do wish the review had mentioned whether the existing screen is more functional for actually focussing manually than the current breed of screens
In other words, does it have a matte/fresnel that can actually be used for focusing like in the distant era F3 and FM2? Or is it the super fine screen we have today that is basically worthless for manual focusing unless you have an f2 lens and nothing is moving... and you're a bit lucky?
In Nikon notice, the focus screen of the D700 is also fixed.But it take 10s to put a cateye's screen ;)
Biowizard: What's sorely missing is a wind-on lever - that would complete the retro look and feel. Better still - link it to a highly-geared flywheel and generator within the body, and you could self-power the photos! CIPA Battery Life of Infinity?
I don't miss it on my Epson RD1, it's really great.
babalu: Why couldn't Nikon , in its next iteration come 2014, throw in a camera with the ergonomics of a D7100, but FF, with an F- mount compatible front, fully movable LCD, WITHOUT a mirror, but with a tiltable EVF that beats the viewing experience of today's best OVFs , at a price point of the D800 ? That would certainly bring them back up front, and buyers would flock galore. I know, "keep dreaming" ... but it's feasible !
DB3: Bother. My XE-1 is obsolete after only three months. I'll have to stop looking here for a few years.
You might be obsolete every 3 months.
I recently bought a D1X, and a R-D1 ... you probably forgot what it was, But they are not obsolete at all, it's in the mind :)
Waiting for X-Pro 2 !coming soon !!! :)
mugupo: still 16 megal pixel?
try PhotoNinja ...
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