UnitedNations: As expected only a poor 1% increase in score over the X-E1. Which I think is still overly generous ...because the 'newer' X cameras(X-e2, X-t1, X100s) all have major problems with their JPEG engine.
The 'newer' Fuji X cameras not only render their JPEGs in an unnatural waxy way, but even bigger problem is that their JPEGs have severe limitations in Dynamic Range. This is a problem which was NOT present in the X100, X-Pro1, & X-E1.Simply speaking the JPEGs are nearly unusable in the 'newer' Fuji X cameras IF you are coming from the early X cameras.
It is Fuji's free choice to suddenly make their X cameras into mostly 'RAW Shooting ONLY' cameras, but I am not sure if people who bought Fuji's early X cameras will be happy & be willing to buy the 'newer' X cameras knowing that the usability of the JPEGs has been significantly deteriorated.
It was the same beetwen X10 and X20-> X20 in raw now
DonSantos: Well I'm about so sell my "gold" award x-e2 with the awesome fuji 35mm 1.4 and upgrade the the "silver" sony a7 + zeiss 55mm 1.8.
Am I crazy?
No you are not ... if you have some FF lenses to use.But- accept shooting raw to get the best, jpeg are over processed, even with NR OFF.- IQ is good on both cameras
Too lateSold all my Nikon gear..
"25/0.95 can be hardly called a large aperture lens but should be good for low light video."
What is a large aperture lens for you ???
oluv: wow 349$ = 399€ for the 14-42! shouldn't it be the other way round?
Helas, in photographic equipment we don't have the same change $ -> € ...
goloby: I always loved the Fuji colors, in my opinion they are the best. Fuji lenses are stellar as well. But one thing will keep me from buying this camera and that is the crop sensor. I need bokeh, I love my 50mm f1.4 and I do not want it to be a mid tele, I want it to be a 50. Same with the 35 f1.4. For anybody that thinks oterwise please rent a ff camera with either a 35 or a 50 1.4 lens and you will be hooked.One question about this camera's autofocus, how low can it go? 0 eV like Sony's A7, -1eV like most Nikon dslrs or -3 eV like Canon's 6D?
"However in todays digital market you can hardly tell which brand is used judged on its colors only."Of course if you use lightroom, they are all lightroomesque;)
ozturert: Mirrorless bodies are progressively looking like DSLRs. Then, why do we have mirrorless cameras at all? Do 2 dials and sharper corners make the large mirrorless cameras very different from DSLRs?
You have lot's of choice for mirorless camera no ?If this one is not for you, could be for somebody else !
You have a shorter flange and package.And this one is beautiful with great ergonomy, many will love it;)
AbrasiveReducer: One thing that bodes well for Sony is that their fan base seems almost as fired up as Nikon (who simply cannot do anything wrong). In a world full of excellent cameras, having customers who take comments about anything less than perfection as vicious slander, this unquestioning loyalty is nice to have.
be honest :)each one is opinion.I read in another review the jpeg engine was the best ever done in a camera ...And I thought, why wrote such a malhonnest information ?
jonny1976: every review states what dp say..great sensor, poor handling and poor responsive with af behind competition and a shutter sound that i'd say scary.why fanboys pussycats get so burnt is without sense...u like the camera, great. but don't come here and tell us the om e1 is slower or less responsive of the a7, is a joke really.
Love the sound of the A7 shutter, using first elctronic curtain :)
justmeMN: Fuwho? :-)
(In the USA, they are a pretty obscure brand.)
who know about USA ?
Roland Karlsson: So, whats up with JPEG? Some cameras have good JPEG and some have bad. And ... it is well known how to make good JPEG. It is not really possible to fail. So, why all those cameras with bad JPEG?
to have pictures looking the same the smartphone they sell ...
bluevellet: Silver award!
+ shutter lag +shutter sound + less effective burst mode + twice less effctive burst mode with af, + more color shift with wide angle RF lenses + etc
DStudio: JPEG output is very important - especially in our fast moving digital media society. There are many times when you NEED to use JPEG output, because it's impossible or impractical to do otherwise.
The fact that Sony can't get good JPEG output out of their own camera and sensor is a sign that it's not refined enough yet. JPEG output quality is fundamental, and should've been a given, at the top of the design list.
you can turn noise reduction off, but even base ISO still have a great amount of smearing.You can't turn sharpening off, and it's too high, very agressive, for instance foor trees without leaves ...
Agree, with allexcept build quality; just aaverage for me.According all reviewers, all buit quality are great now.
So we can not any more read the distinction between a real great solid built, an average one, an mediocre one, or a bad one.
A7 is average.D700 is great, D4 is great and very solid vivitar is mediocre;)
sillette: Can not understand what he means when stating that aperture priority always gives a 1/60 sec shutter speed. It will if the correct exposure is 1/60 at whatever aperture is set. The answer: set a larger aperture. I use aperture priority all the time (most of the time) when using manual focus lenses on my Nex 5 or EOS M and have no problem with the camera setting the correct shutter speed to suit the light. When a manual focus/aperture lens is used the camera automatically changes the shutter speed (or ISO, if set to do so). Of course the A7 may operate in a different manner to the NEX.
Richard, Except this time, I always agree with all you wrote, and respect your opinions and point of view.
Auto ISO didn't exist when the lenses you used where buid.And no contact on these lenses for the cameri to know the focal if you had "a better implementation of auto ISO"
so why use it ?select A as in these period, and the camera will choose the speed. You can always change A or ISO as you see the speed selected buy the camera in the finder.
S doesn't work as the camera can't change the Aperture of the lense. It only work with auto ISO, exactly as manual mode do with auto ISO !Best is really to select A et ISO as in the film day for the lenses you used;)
le_alain: Just read the article, and can't desagree more.I recently bought the A7, and I get very good result with my "M mount" lenses: Voigtlander 21mm f1.8, Nokton 50mm 1.5, Heliar 75mm 2.5Nikkon 105 f2.5, 200mm f4, and even 50-300mm ED f4.5
just tried 2 hours ago the 12mm ultra wide heliar, and if you like wide lense, pretty better than your 17mm Vivitar...just have a look.http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52959518
I must had, he is right for ergonomy, to much buton on right, space not very well used.And I agree for "C2"For the picking value, low, medium, high, you can assign it to a button, what I did (C3). so no need of the menu.
Ergonomy is not pefect, but usable. I also tried the plebicited Olympus EM-1, and foud the A7 ergonomy far better for me.
You can also you "A", why not ??You shoose your ISO, set the aperture on the lens, and the camera shoose the speed.
You see it in the viewfinder, and can adjust ISO or Aperture if you want another speed !Why recommand not to use "A" with a aperture priorityu lense !!!There are other way to take a picture than auto ISO which didn't exist contemporanly with the legacy lenses used !
There is no "S" program with a legacy lens, has the camera can't drive aperture.You can use it with auto ISO, and so it becomes the same thigs that "M+auto ISO".:)
Just read the article, and can't desagree more.I recently bought the A7, and I get very good result with my "M mount" lenses: Voigtlander 21mm f1.8, Nokton 50mm 1.5, Heliar 75mm 2.5Nikkon 105 f2.5, 200mm f4, and even 50-300mm ED f4.5
marike6: Do the mushy greens and heavy NR come standard? :-)
But seriously, it's all well and good to make another APS-C camera but with DSLR styling, but unless the RAW conversion issues with Lightroom are sorted (which they really aren't as of yet), it's going to be tough for RAW shooters to get excited about this body.
Doing command line RAW processing with dcraw or investing in yet another converter like Capture One is not all that appealing. Nor is shooting 8-bit JPEGs.
X-trans raw are perfectly and quickly extracted :)
BarnET: Why complaining about the retro dials.
It will probably have 2 normal control dials. We can see one at the front and it will probably have 1 at the back as well. If you want you can actually ignore the dedicated dials and use those 2.
I would of course rather have an mode dial that is missing but everyone has there own opinion here. It doesn't make the camera bad or good.
The dedicated dials also tell us something about specs. It has 1/4000th shutterspeed and an base ISO of 200 and top of hi2 which is probably 25600.
The 1/4000th shutterspeed is disappointing. Most of it's competitors go to 1/8000th which can be very handy in bright light. I sincerely hope that this does not mean an lackluster flash sync speed of 1/180th.
This is below what we should expect with an camera rumoured to be $1800 with an Apsc sensor. The hump also get's a lot of criticism here. It's not necessary with an EVF but it does let them make an bigger viewfinder.I like RF design but others prefer this.
Look at the back side,
You'll see the drive mode control undur ISO whell, Metering mode under speed one, a rear will, a dedicate buton for AEL, another for AFL, one for focus manual assistreally a very great ergonomy, every thing at it's place.
Cane: Anyone think it can actually track a moving object with AF yet?
Fuji rumors:. 8fps with AF tracking / (trusted source)
if it's real ... :)