Cheezr: How are you converting the RAW files? Or should I only be looking at the JPEG's?
I guess i am just surprised by the poor quality of the raw files compared to other aps-c cameras. Thus, my questions meant, are these final raw quality or is it a beta convertor or are the raw files just that lousy?
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Posted on Mar 28, 2013 at 05:26:49 UTC
Well dpreview are any of the real annoying issues with the v1 fixed? can you cancel the post capture preview? can you set shutter speed for auto iso? can you modify the program line or you still stuck with blurry subjects? are you still scrolling endlessly down the shooting menu ?
have you already forgotten your review of the V1?
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Posted on Oct 26, 2012 at 01:07:08 UTC
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What struck me is that they are planning to sell these thru "carriers". I really dont see myself going to ATT to buy a camera. Are they planning to put 4G data capability in this? Why would ATT sell it if they cant slap it with a 2 yr contract?
In many ways Samsung makes great products and in many ways they appear clueless! Hmmm, good paradox!
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How sad, the gaming division gets it but the imaging division really does not. No wonder that Samsung is eating Sony's lunch and dinner in most product areas.
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sjgcit: DPR - smartphones do allow extra memory to be added. No idea why you think otherwise.
Consumer wants : Phone with good camera.
Consumer gets : average camera with ... whoops.
It's still asking the consumer to carry two devices when they want one.
Consumers don't care if it can run Android, let alone which version of Android. It could run DOS if it did what they wanted.
Can't tell if this thing has an audio-out socket. If it doesn't it would be a HUGE fail, as that would mean no MP3 playing.
In case Nikon et al haven't noticed all Apple or Nokia or the rest of them have to do to make a better product is add a zoom lens in a phone. All Nikon et all have to do is build a phone, get it certified and make deals with carriers, which is a lot harder.
i see the compromises as too little app memory (unless you can also use the SD card but prob not without hacking) and likely low res lcd. will wait and see for the full review.
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Posted on Aug 28, 2012 at 05:54:40 UTC
Reg Natarajan: I love the idea. When I saw the headline, I mentally thought, "Sold!" Then I read a bit more. Android 2.3? Are they serious? Someone tell Nikon that Android 2.3 was released in 2010, and they're on 4.1 now.
the primary diff btwn 2.3 and 4 is the support for tablets (i.e. fragments) and screens of differing pixel density. I personally think 2.3 was a good choice for this kind of device and it is appropriate for a $350 device. Don't get me wrong, a more expensive and more capable device is surely coming if not from Nikon from Samsung and/or the others. so i am sure you will get JB eventually.
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Posted on Aug 28, 2012 at 05:51:01 UTC
Ranger 9: One thing everyone seems to be overlooking: WiFi is NOT everywhere. In fact, once you go outside, it's pretty much gone for sure. Nobody who buys this camera is ever going to take pictures outside?
The use-it-anywhere appeal of smartphone cameras is based on the fact that they DO work anywhere there's phone service -- if no WiFi is available, they can fall back on their 3G or 4G connection. That's not an option for any WiFi-only device... at best, it would let you connect to your smartphone and use THAT to do your uploads. Janky.
When somebody brings out a real camera with a slot for a SIM card, THEN I might start getting excited...
how does it play to their weaknesses? the software is being done by Google et al, exactly not by Nikon because as you said they suck at software. The photoshop touch app is done by adobe not nikon. the real question i have is does this device really have the horsepowr to run photoshop touch or instagram? will have to wait for the real review to find out..
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Posted on Aug 28, 2012 at 05:45:08 UTC
marike6: 1/2.3" BSI CMOS sensor, just like the Pentax Q. I'm not expecting IQ to be nearly as good as the Q, but it should be decent.
Speaking of the Q, it's odd that DPR never reviewed the Q, or plans to, since the Pentax Q is the first ILC to ever feature such a sensor. And I don't know if anyone has ever downloaded DNGs from the Q, but they are superb. But I guess the powers that be here at DPR, and the sensor size fanatics discounted the Q right off the bat. Pity as it's a fascinating little camera with outstanding IQ and a huge fun factor. But I digress.
I hope this new Nikon has somewhere in the ballpark of the Q's image quality, and not the somewhat crunchy images we've seen from the P300.
still it is interesting that dpreview has done several compact cameras since Q was available and clearly have no plans to do t he Q. I assume they would just use the Jeff Keller review if they cared in any way..which obviously they do not. too bad it is an absolutely adorable and fun camera esp. with the fish eye..
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Posted on Aug 28, 2012 at 05:40:25 UTC
Richard,
Is there a protective shutter that closes over the lens when power is off? or a lens cap? I don't see any in the pics and am just wondering..
CZR
Marcel Mutter: WOW that are lot of advertisements between this comments area and the news item.
Amazon must be turning the screws..
Cheezr: How are you converting the RAW files? Or should I only be looking at the JPEG's?
I guess i am just surprised by the poor quality of the raw files compared to other aps-c cameras. Thus, my questions meant, are these final raw quality or is it a beta convertor or are the raw files just that lousy?
How are you converting the RAW files? Or should I only be looking at the JPEG's?
Do you still have to pay an exorbitant fee for a filter holder?
Well dpreview are any of the real annoying issues with the v1 fixed?
can you cancel the post capture preview? can you set shutter speed for auto iso?
can you modify the program line or you still stuck with blurry subjects?
are you still scrolling endlessly down the shooting menu ?
have you already forgotten your review of the V1?
in the phootsteps of the phablet, i suggest we call them phameras!
looking good, although personally i would prefer a "like" button rather than a vote up or down button. a vote up/down button will encourage mobs, IMO.
What struck me is that they are planning to sell these thru "carriers". I really dont see myself going to ATT to buy a camera. Are they planning to put 4G data capability in this? Why would ATT sell it if they cant slap it with a 2 yr contract?
In many ways Samsung makes great products and in many ways they appear clueless! Hmmm, good paradox!
pricing?
the only thing that frightens me is the as yet unannounced price.
Galaxy SIII + compact is not going to be under $700, SIGH
How sad, the gaming division gets it but the imaging division really does not. No wonder that Samsung is eating Sony's lunch and dinner in most product areas.
Thank you DxO, I for one, am grateful as I did not expect RX100 support and it is quite good!
sjgcit: DPR - smartphones do allow extra memory to be added. No idea why you think otherwise.
Consumer wants : Phone with good camera.
Consumer gets : average camera with ... whoops.
It's still asking the consumer to carry two devices when they want one.
Consumers don't care if it can run Android, let alone which version of Android. It could run DOS if it did what they wanted.
Can't tell if this thing has an audio-out socket. If it doesn't it would be a HUGE fail, as that would mean no MP3 playing.
In case Nikon et al haven't noticed all Apple or Nokia or the rest of them have to do to make a better product is add a zoom lens in a phone. All Nikon et all have to do is build a phone, get it certified and make deals with carriers, which is a lot harder.
i see the compromises as too little app memory (unless you can also use the SD card but prob not without hacking) and likely low res lcd. will wait and see for the full review.
Reg Natarajan: I love the idea. When I saw the headline, I mentally thought, "Sold!" Then I read a bit more. Android 2.3? Are they serious? Someone tell Nikon that Android 2.3 was released in 2010, and they're on 4.1 now.
the primary diff btwn 2.3 and 4 is the support for tablets (i.e. fragments) and screens of differing pixel density.
I personally think 2.3 was a good choice for this kind of device and it is appropriate for a $350 device.
Don't get me wrong, a more expensive and more capable device is surely coming if not from Nikon from Samsung and/or the others.
so i am sure you will get JB eventually.
Debankur Mukherjee: S800c - A Phone that can never make any call........
it should be able to run skype or google voice, since it has a mike and a speaker. maybe even video calls with that huge sensor!
Ranger 9: One thing everyone seems to be overlooking: WiFi is NOT everywhere. In fact, once you go outside, it's pretty much gone for sure. Nobody who buys this camera is ever going to take pictures outside?
The use-it-anywhere appeal of smartphone cameras is based on the fact that they DO work anywhere there's phone service -- if no WiFi is available, they can fall back on their 3G or 4G connection. That's not an option for any WiFi-only device... at best, it would let you connect to your smartphone and use THAT to do your uploads. Janky.
When somebody brings out a real camera with a slot for a SIM card, THEN I might start getting excited...
how does it play to their weaknesses? the software is being done by Google et al, exactly not by Nikon because as you said they suck at software. The photoshop touch app is done by adobe not nikon. the real question i have is does this device really have the horsepowr to run photoshop touch or instagram? will have to wait for the real review to find out..
sandy b: Now thats pretty cool. Nikon was first, they won't be the last.
actually Polaroid was out before Nikon, they are just the first of the big names. Stay tuned for Samsung.
marike6: 1/2.3" BSI CMOS sensor, just like the Pentax Q. I'm not expecting IQ to be nearly as good as the Q, but it should be decent.
Speaking of the Q, it's odd that DPR never reviewed the Q, or plans to, since the Pentax Q is the first ILC to ever feature such a sensor. And I don't know if anyone has ever downloaded DNGs from the Q, but they are superb. But I guess the powers that be here at DPR, and the sensor size fanatics discounted the Q right off the bat. Pity as it's a fascinating little camera with outstanding IQ and a huge fun factor. But I digress.
I hope this new Nikon has somewhere in the ballpark of the Q's image quality, and not the somewhat crunchy images we've seen from the P300.
still it is interesting that dpreview has done several compact cameras since Q was available and clearly have no plans to do t he Q. I assume they would just use the Jeff Keller review if they cared in any way..which obviously they do not. too bad it is an absolutely adorable and fun camera esp. with the fish eye..
Kudos to Nikon for being first with the next gen compact.
Who woulda thunk it?