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RAG64
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Why do entry-level cameras always have to lack dials and other physical controls??? Are beginners more adept at or do they particularly enjoy digging through menus? Does that make handling of the camera easier? Does it make the functions more visible or understandable for people accustomed to letting the auto mode do all the "thinking"?
A pity, really, that this will probably keep many p&s upgraders away from the otherwise excellent EPM-2...
RAG64: I'm disappointed with the lack of details in the studio images above 800 iso - IQ way lower than my old Canon 600D. Can that be right??
You guys are right - I was looking at JPG :-)
I'm disappointed with the lack of details in the studio images above 800 iso - IQ way lower than my old Canon 600D. Can that be right??
cordellwillis: Oh my, a camera review.
Thank you for reviewing a "camera" that is not a phone with a camera. Nice and detailed just like they were in the good old days.
Yep, indeed all that money their advertisers get from us!
Or is DPR a charity now? Wise a...
Nightwings: Suggestion to the reviewer -
When showing the different film simulation modes .... Please choose a landscape shot with lots of green ... trees... and sky. The shot that you chose of the boats.... means nothing imho... because we don't know what the true natural color of those boats are in real life. Whereas a landscape shot, is a subject that we can easily relate to in terms of colors.
My 2C
Good point! ...but do you realize how hard it must be to get blue skies in the Seattle are? :D
I must say I find the bridge picture with the cables valuable (as I did at DCR) for evaluating and comparing sharpness, contrast and distortion. I hope he keeps that one for future reviews.
Thank you DPR for reviewing a relevant camera and in a timely fashion! :-)
I realize both reviews were done by different people, but I don't understand why the comparison tool (on the conclusion page) shows much better IQ - especially in raw - and better video for the X20 than the G15, when this is clearly not the case even from reading your review.
Is that why the X20 got a better % score???
EDWARD ARTISTE: Someone mentioned a good question, and one that ive been wondering as well- why doesn't dp reivew buy equipment to test? Ive seen mentions of you guys have to wait for samples...
...while many samples await you at the rental shop and bh/adorama.
Just a question. Love the site, but yall have to see the pitchforks being raised....
Buying & then reselling as "almost new" doesn't have to be that expensive. I believe some other sites do it.
RAG64: Seriously?? This is what we waited almost 2 years for? A bulging grip and a few gadgets?!
No large sensor, no extended zoom range, no ND filter, no compact body… Really, even IF they fixed NR and video, this is last year's camera at best. Oly should have been announcing a XZ-3 by now!
Maybe Sony snatched all of Oly's developers away right after they released the XZ-1. This camera is DOA
:-(
With 2 years development time you'd expect at least a little progress in one area or another.
And $600 is going to be a hard sell.
photophile: Noise Filter at High ISO setting Off, Low, Standard, High
Noise Reduction at Slow shutter speed Off, On, Auto
Auto: effective when shutter speed is slower than 1/2 sec.
From Oly's own website.
Finally!
RAG64: Seriously?? This is what we waited almost 2 years for? A bulging grip and a few gadgets?!
No large sensor, no extended zoom range, no ND filter, no compact body… Really, even IF they fixed NR and video, this is last year's camera at best. Oly should have been announcing a XZ-3 by now!
Maybe Sony snatched all of Oly's developers away right after they released the XZ-1. This camera is DOA
:-(
Nobody's asking for everything. Any one of those improvements alone would have sufficed...
Seriously?? This is what we waited almost 2 years for? A bulging grip and a few gadgets?!
No large sensor, no extended zoom range, no ND filter, no compact body… Really, even IF they fixed NR and video, this is last year's camera at best. Oly should have been announcing a XZ-3 by now!
Maybe Sony snatched all of Oly's developers away right after they released the XZ-1. This camera is DOA
:-(
"This new concept of PlayMemories Camera Apps is the world’s first application download service in an interchangeable lens camera that allows consumers to install new functions on demand, tailoring their cameras to fit their personal shooting needs. Available apps at launch, outside of “Direct Upload” as mentioned earlier, will include “Picture Effect+”; “Bracket Pro”; “Multi Frame NR”; “Photo Retouch”; and “Smart Remote Control. A variety of other apps including “Time-Lapse” and “Cinematic Photo” are also planned for release."
So let me see if I get this right: the purpose of a NEX apps store is to allow me to pay extra money for extended capabilities which would have otherwise been included for free by Sony with the camera upon their development, added to the software package or made available by 3rd party hacks...? Cool! :P
Rachotilko: I applaud the choice of 1/1.7" BSI-CMOS. Up until recently, 1/1.7" CCD was the standard enthusiast-compact sensor type, with BSI-CMOS produced in 1/2.3" format only. But those 1/1.7" CCD compacts have often been sufficient in providing quite good IQ. I guess introduction of BSI-CMOS in 1/1.7" format will make quite dramatic improvement in low-light capability of enthusiast compacts.
Regarding those of you demanding 1" sensor: Sony RX100 is f4.9 at 100mm eq, this Nikon is f4.0 at 200 mm eq. Furthermore, Sony's sensor is FSI-CMOS, which implies lower sensor surface area utilization compared to BSI. Let's see how will the lens and BSI advantages of P7700 translate into offseting the larger sensor area of RX100.
Er, f4.9 on a 1" sensor is much brighter than f4.0 on a 1/1.7" sensor. And much better signal to noise ratio anyway.
I am once again very impressed by the sensor technology and IQ, but still underwhelmed by handling and limited range of available lenses... :-(
Tord S Eriksson: Never seen a review here with so many errors, typos, and grammatical problems. Professional proof-reading is evidently needed, urgently!
For instance, what is this supposed to mean: "Should you choose the lens kit, then you'll be find the F3.5-5.6, 18-55 mm ..."
Weird.
Awaiting the NEX-6 review ....
Why does a handful of people here jump on every single review Jeff Keller writes complaining about details? So an editing mistake makes it through here and there - big deal! What's your beef, really?
I think Jeff is an excellent reviewer and I am glad DPR is using his material rather than the alternative - which is no review at all of smaller cameras.
So if you don't like these reviews, just ignore them and move on!