Why offer a 'kit' lens for the A7? Why not a HQ power zoom or prime?Surely somebody buying a FF camera won't be compromising on the glass just to save a few $$...
Hachu21: To DPR :What about focus peaking?What about handheld HDR?What about the exposure time up to 250s and the new nightscenes?And the background defocus mode? Is it a useless gadget or not?
Even for a "first impression", please speak about the new functions.
And... are you sure the sensor is the same?Canon's sites are making a difference- G15 = CMOS sensor- G16 = BSI CMOS sensor
Thanks for the review.
Elaka, unfortunately the G15's HDR mode was also worthless - completely unusable without a tripod and no control over the tiny exposure range. :(
KW Phua: People prefer better IQ can go RX___ or even G1X. People prefer pocketable, macro, faster and better change to capture moment go G16. Some people enjoying taking good picture, some enjoying comparing high IQ picture. Go for your choice. All camera can take good picture, only how much is the chances. That is why Pro go 1DX or D4.
Jostian, unfortunately there's a big difference between "similar IQ" and "same IQ". Not to speak of a fast lens on the tele side.
white shadow: I am quite satisfied with my G12 as a "carry anywhere" camera and has taken many reasonable, memorable shots during my travel. Like the G16, my only handicap is its lack of a 24mm field of view.
I wonder how much better is the G16 over the Lumix LX7 in terms of image quality?
Quest21: Is it me or IQ of older P@S were much better...
The sturdiness but especially the IQ of all cameras in this class lead me to think they're at best suitable as a gift for my kid to take to the beach or poolside.Come to think of it, they're actually perfect for that. ;-)
Gesture: That expensive optical viewfinder has been done away with; not to mention smaller without being exotic miniaturization. These cameras should cost less.
Charging more could mean less people buy them. How exactly does that help the camera division in your opinion?
Why do entry-level cameras always have to lack dials and other physical controls??? Are beginners more adept at or do they particularly enjoy digging through menus? Does that make handling of the camera easier? Does it make the functions more visible or understandable for people accustomed to letting the auto mode do all the "thinking"?
A pity, really, that this will probably keep many p&s upgraders away from the otherwise excellent EPM-2...
RAG64: I'm disappointed with the lack of details in the studio images above 800 iso - IQ way lower than my old Canon 600D. Can that be right??
You guys are right - I was looking at JPG :-)
I'm disappointed with the lack of details in the studio images above 800 iso - IQ way lower than my old Canon 600D. Can that be right??
cordellwillis: Oh my, a camera review.
Thank you for reviewing a "camera" that is not a phone with a camera. Nice and detailed just like they were in the good old days.
Yep, indeed all that money their advertisers get from us! Or is DPR a charity now? Wise a...
Thank you DPR for reviewing a relevant camera and in a timely fashion! :-)
I realize both reviews were done by different people, but I don't understand why the comparison tool (on the conclusion page) shows much better IQ - especially in raw - and better video for the X20 than the G15, when this is clearly not the case even from reading your review. Is that why the X20 got a better % score???
EDWARD ARTISTE: Someone mentioned a good question, and one that ive been wondering as well- why doesn't dp reivew buy equipment to test? Ive seen mentions of you guys have to wait for samples...
...while many samples await you at the rental shop and bh/adorama.
Just a question. Love the site, but yall have to see the pitchforks being raised....
Buying & then reselling as "almost new" doesn't have to be that expensive. I believe some other sites do it.
RAG64: Seriously?? This is what we waited almost 2 years for? A bulging grip and a few gadgets?!
No large sensor, no extended zoom range, no ND filter, no compact body… Really, even IF they fixed NR and video, this is last year's camera at best. Oly should have been announcing a XZ-3 by now!
Maybe Sony snatched all of Oly's developers away right after they released the XZ-1. This camera is DOA
With 2 years development time you'd expect at least a little progress in one area or another.
And $600 is going to be a hard sell.
photophile: Noise Filter at High ISO setting Off, Low, Standard, High
Noise Reduction at Slow shutter speed Off, On, AutoAuto: effective when shutter speed is slower than 1/2 sec.
From Oly's own website.
Nobody's asking for everything. Any one of those improvements alone would have sufficed...
Seriously?? This is what we waited almost 2 years for? A bulging grip and a few gadgets?!
"This new concept of PlayMemories Camera Apps is the world’s first application download service in an interchangeable lens camera that allows consumers to install new functions on demand, tailoring their cameras to fit their personal shooting needs. Available apps at launch, outside of “Direct Upload” as mentioned earlier, will include “Picture Effect+”; “Bracket Pro”; “Multi Frame NR”; “Photo Retouch”; and “Smart Remote Control. A variety of other apps including “Time-Lapse” and “Cinematic Photo” are also planned for release."
So let me see if I get this right: the purpose of a NEX apps store is to allow me to pay extra money for extended capabilities which would have otherwise been included for free by Sony with the camera upon their development, added to the software package or made available by 3rd party hacks...? Cool! :P
Rachotilko: I applaud the choice of 1/1.7" BSI-CMOS. Up until recently, 1/1.7" CCD was the standard enthusiast-compact sensor type, with BSI-CMOS produced in 1/2.3" format only. But those 1/1.7" CCD compacts have often been sufficient in providing quite good IQ. I guess introduction of BSI-CMOS in 1/1.7" format will make quite dramatic improvement in low-light capability of enthusiast compacts.
Regarding those of you demanding 1" sensor: Sony RX100 is f4.9 at 100mm eq, this Nikon is f4.0 at 200 mm eq. Furthermore, Sony's sensor is FSI-CMOS, which implies lower sensor surface area utilization compared to BSI. Let's see how will the lens and BSI advantages of P7700 translate into offseting the larger sensor area of RX100.
Er, f4.9 on a 1" sensor is much brighter than f4.0 on a 1/1.7" sensor. And much better signal to noise ratio anyway.
I am once again very impressed by the sensor technology and IQ, but still underwhelmed by handling and limited range of available lenses... :-(