donCortizone: Very nice. If I were into EVF's I'd seriously consider this system. (Assuming they roll out more than another set of 35/50's.)
I'd fine tune that even more. All the Loxia lenses will uses a 52mm thread which will eliminate some. The list should narrow down to this:
21mm f/2.821mm f/4.525mm f/2.828mm f/2.885mm f/4
pick 3 of those. My bets are: 21mm f/2.8, 28mm f/2.8, 85mm f/4
How about a section talking about bugs & fixes for firmware updates? Here's mine for the A7s:
- Function and Custom customizability of "Silent Shooting Mode" - Function and Custom customization of "APS-C Size Capture"- Function and Custom customization for "Format"- Deactivate Monitor should turn off monitor!- When “Pre-AF” setting is disabled, it should apply to both photo and video mode. It currently applies only to photo mode with no way to disable in video mode.- Allow focus point to be shown in manual focus mode. (The focus point should be shown when in manual focus mode so that we can use both manual focus mode and back-button focus effectively without having to leave manual focus mode.)- Be able to view histogram and level at the same time- Keep grid lines visible when moving the focus point around- Have more consistent menu behavior. Sometimes when you set a menu, it might or might not drop out of the menu system which is annoying.
hallelujah! I'm about to order an A7s and I don't what I would have done if the RAW support wasn't there in Aperture before a big photoshoot I have!
Apple's biggest mistake here is not clarifying if Photos will have an equivalent or greater feature set as Aperture so we can know how to move forward. The whole statement about photographers being able to store all their photos on iCloud is extremely ignorant. How do I feel about it all? How many cuss words are allowed on this forum?
PaulDavis: Personally I would have liked an iso dial on the top left side. The current iso control gets bumped all the time and goes from auto to 50. Then you press press the shutter and wonder why it is a 3 second exposure. Lol Still a Sony fan boy. My camera maker of choice is never boring. ;-)
I prefer the ISO dial where it is. If it was on the top left, I'd have to take my left hand off the lens and off the focus ring if I needed to change ISO while shooting. I don't like interfaces that break my flow.
bobbarber: I don't know what to think. I'm a little surprised about the comments about the difficulty manual focusing. I'm a m43 shooter, but interested in this camera as a FF option. I find manual focus easy on m43 with a viewfinder model (currently the G6 for me), or at least a lot easier than it was with a DSLR. To me, having to move the focus point before magnifying it is a feature, not a bug. Take the example in the text of the difficulty of trying to focus on a model's eye. Imagine how hard it would be if your focus always defaulted to the center of the frame, and then you had to recompose the picture after focusing, with only a centimeter or so of DOF to work with. Having not tried this camera, I'll trust the review. Maybe there is something poor in Sony's viewfinder or ergonomics that I'm not aware of yet.
I use the A7r professionally for both photography and short films and you can see my work at www.rishio.com to gauge my skill level. Manual focus on the A7r works great for me using the 35mm f/2.8 lens. I shot a whole wedding using manual focus with the A7r because the conditions were too dark for autofocus to keep up. I had great results. The focus point before magnifying is a feature for me as well and I have no idea why most on the forum and the author of the article would want to bypass that. Extremely useful. I also find the ergonomics of the A7r to be splendid. I say that having experience using canon cameras, such as the 5dII, Olympus cameras and exploring several other brands. The A7r is the most efficient once you configure it how you like in my opinion. Take all the comments on the forums with a grain of salt. It sounds like you know what you're doing to me.
I love the controls of the A7r that I own. Glad they are mostly usable with the thumb and index finger of my right hand and my left hand is free to hold the lens and stay on the focus ring. I can't understand why you would want to spread controls to the left side of the camera. Controlling aperture, shutter speed, white balance, ISO, and focus point is all really quick without taking the left hand away from the focus ring and the eye away from the EVF.
I also have a high success rate manually focusing with it's native 35mm f/2.8 lens. I did turn off peaking but didn't have much of a need to magnify. Shot a whole wedding that way.
Best camera I've ever owned!
bluevellet: Detail is impressive. High ISO is not so much; barely a stop better than APS-C and M43. I would have liked to check the A7 IQ too to see if the lesser pixel density/MP make a difference in high ISO.
But man, that Phase One image quality is completely in another league. :D
I think you can do that in the test by clicking the "web size" or "print size" button.
Caerolle: So Sony can make a 55mm lens for its full frame system, which is an odd length, but won't make one for its crop system, for a ~85mm equivalent.
God I so don't miss Sony.
Not sure what you are talking about. You can use the 55mm on the crop sensor and it turns into an 85.
Marla2008: This is not only very ugly, it's also insulting to the intelligence of its target audience. It SO screams "let's milk the money of the wealthy retirees". Faux retro and marketing cynicism at its worst. I initially thought the Sony A7 (which I have on pre-order) was ugly and looked put together from non assorted bits, but it actually manages to look rather sleek and sexy compared to this monstruosity.
I find mirrorless cameras the best. Looking through EVF is seeing the world close to how the sensor sees it and is far more accurate than an optical viewfinder in my opinion.
vFunct: And no, you DON'T need video in your dSLR.
dSLRs are the absolute WORST bodies for videography purposes.
The reason is that dSLRs are designed for still photography, and their grips are close to the center of gravity. This allows them to be turned and rotated quickly. Basically it's an unstable system that works because still images generally don't need stability.
Any cinematographer that's tried video with dSLRs quickly learns of this hidden problem with dSLR video, when they go to edit and they see useless, shaky footage. This is a MAJOR complaint editors have with dSLR video (another complaint they have is that everything is out of focus because of the shallow DoF..)
Meanwhile, videography requires constant stabilization. That's why ALL professional video cameras include shoulder mounts, or are used with Steadicams.
People that think they need dSLR video have no idea how bad dSLRs actually are for video.
You really need a different camera for quality videography.
I certainly do professional short films and photography with digital cameras. Here's an example - shot with an NEX 7 and a monopod:
The fusion of still & motion in one small camera body is incredibly important for the type of work I do.
What this review didn't talk about is what is gained by using a modular camera/lens combined with a smartphone. You get the Camera SDK so that you can write custom android apps for it. I think this is more about the software than the hardware. Tons of possibilities.
DDWD10: Haven't electronically-controlled ND filters been used before in compact cameras in lieu of actual aperture blades to reduce diffraction? I remember hearing this. Of course, Nikon's proposed system is much more advanced.
I'd love electronically controlled ND filters for video. Extremely useful!
Shamael: Wow, this will bring Nikon to leadership position, hahaha. How about lower prices on the better stuff. At Nikon, every buton or hinge added, doubles the price.
where is the manual focus ring on the emount/micro-four third lenses?
poor update on the nex for manual focus shooters. Still randomly moves center focus point off center when going into video mode. No spot focus on video mode. Spot focus on camera mode has no indication of where center focus point is when camera is set with af/mf on hold mode. Histogram does not accurately represent metering when in spot metering mode. Lots of bugs that haven't been fixed. But, never-the-less, I still love my nex 7. Just wish they had better photographers working at the company that would fix these functions.
I felt the article did a good job of simplifying the array of choices we have in mirrorless cameras for those looking to buy one - but the categorization doesn't really work perfectly. Some of these cameras can go in more than one category. The NEX 7 could be considered a hybrid camera. The GH2 could be considered an enthusiast. The Nikon J1 could be considered beginner.
Looks better by 1 stop to me. Last time I recall ISO 1600 on the a77 was about equal to ISO 6400 on the 5n. Now ISO 3200 on the a77 is about equal to ISO 6400 on the 5n. I bet this means that the nex 7 and the nex 5n would be pretty close and to me that shows that Sony did not make a mistake by going 24mp if the 16mp sensor performs about the same..Well - that's my observation. I'm feeling pretty good about it (for the first time).
hikenhi: Put this SLT-A77 against the Pentax K-5, RAW, ISO 3200. Any Questions?
Put the SLT-A77 against the 1/3 cost 5n at ISO 3200.
Looks like ISO 1600 on A77 = ISO 6400 on nex 5n. We're talking about a $500 camera performing way better than a $1500 camera from the same company. Great job Sony. I think there is a reason why Fuji x100 is 12mp, Nikon d700 is 12MP, Nikon 1 system is 10mp, and some point and shoots backtracked from higher mp to lower mp. If sony wants to get marketshare from the likes of Canon and Nikon - they aren't going to do it with this camera. Unfortunate because I have the nex 7 on preorder.