I can't see any real improvement over the 6 years old 18MP sensor.
Buy a Nikon D3200 with 18-55 VR lens for 299 Euros brandnew - and you'll save 500 Euros and get better images!
Hope Canon recovers before it's too late...
Pat Cullinan Jr: Can anyone offer some observations and/or comparisons about image quality at ISO 6400 and above?
Comparisons with the Nikon D5500 will be much appreciated.
Hmmm... I haven't yet vetted all 4 pages of commentary -- maybe this has already been treated. Still, summary and pithy remarks will be welcome.
You can use the IMAGE COMPARISON TOOL right here on DPR.
Peter62: Just used the image comparison tool. Set to ISO 12800 I compared the
Fuji X-E2Nikon D7200Canon EOS 760DCanon EOS 750D
Even with it's "smaller" 16 MP-sensor, the X-E2 has a higher resolution than ALL(!) APS-C Nikons and ALL APS-C Canons!
Just look at the small coloured concentric circles.
I wasn't talking about noise, but resolution. At ISO 100 every Point&Shoot has the same resolution as an APS-C camera.
So you have to go to higher ISOs to see a difference.
BTW, that shows why more and more people rely on their smartphones when shooting holiday pictures. You can't see any difference to an DSLR in bright sunlight...
Just used the image comparison tool. Set to ISO 12800 I compared the
Seems that my old EOS 550D from 2009 is on par with new 760D, except for resolution :-(
Is it really that difficult for a famous camera maker like Canon to develop a competitive sensor?
Very sad story.
ot73: i had canon 50D, 5D2. and now the xt-1.i had problems with the canon AF and fast primes (35L, 85 1.8) . many OOF.the AF of the fuji is much more accurate. maybe not as fast as the canon (depend on the lens), but much more accurate. almost no OOF.
the thing that bother me the most with the fuji is the battery life.
I'm not sure. My XF18-55 misses focus too often. I presume it's the OIS, but it's just a guess.
Mr. Iida seems to be a very honest man, he also recognizes the accomplishments of other manufacturers. This is not common in his industry.
And he is right: video on my X-E2 is almost unusable and the excellent Fuji lenses could probably cope with higher resolution sensors well.
But I am not disappointed with AF speed.
flysurfer: Okay, let me summarize what I have gathered so far:
You used the old X-Pro1 to eliminate the Lens Modulation Optimizer (LMO), you used Capture One to replace Fuji's colors with a dull default conversion, and you turned off RAW metadata based(!) CA correction, distortion correction and devignetting in Capture One (which is all part of the overall lens design). And then you sometimes used shutter speeds without a tripod that sometimes resulted camera shake and blur.
So how "real-world" are these samples after all? Because in my "real world", I certainly use my lenses as intended, with LMO, on a tripod (when necessary), and I certainly don't turn off any lens corrections that are a part of the lens firmware (and stored in the RAW metadata). I also don't use C1's default conversion.
I think RAW processing is obsolete nowadays, especially when using a FUJI camera with the excellent JPG-engine.
I am abolutely NOT impressed.
It seems to me, that the great XF 18-55 WITH(!) OIS is the better choice!
Seems my XF 18-55 WITH OIS is the better choice.
Azurael: "One of the features that really sets the T6s (760D) apart from its cheaper sibling can be seen here, and that's the LCD info display shown above. This is the first Rebel with such a feature"
Err, except the original Rebel (300D). And the XT (350D). It only disappeared on the XTi (400D).
Or does an 'LCD info display' only count if it's on the top plate of a camera?
lacikuss: Is this the Sony Sensor?
I agree, dynamic range should really improve! Otherwise Canon is out of the game...
JackM: The T6s's top LCD and rear dial basically make it a XXD class camera. Nice to see features trickling down. I remember when I returned a Rebel so I could save up for a 30D just for the better interface.
The 70D has a severe AF-problem and so it's almost unusable!
Actually the 70D is Canon's worst camera for decades!
bosco1955: Why not going the other way on the ISO....25,50, ?
Dynamic range IS the most important thing in modern day cameras!
matthiasbasler: Se we've seen both the D5500 and the EOS750/760D released now. To be blunt, neither of them makes me want to have them.
I had an EOS 400D, a Nikon D5000 and now the EOS 650D. I just love flip-out displays and the touch screen of the EOS 650D. I also liked the very good image quality compared to compact cameras at their time. What I disliked were focus issues (like the camera usually focusing on the background instead on an animal, happened often with D5000), and the loud "click", especially when doing timelapse photography in quiet environment.
What has changed since then?1. Ridiculous resolutions (I usually still shoot 8MP and created excellent looking posters from them.) Why 24 or 28MP?2. Compact cameras offer almost equal image quality under daylight and cost far less.3. ILC cameras offer 4K video, two times the burst rate, often smaller bodies, faster focus in "live view mode", no loud clicks. (See Panasonic GH4 or Samsung NX500. The GH4 even has built in time lapse mode.)
I agree, but there's one thing ILCEs and DSLMs cannot compete with:
A real optical viewfinder like the ones built in DSLRs!
Tilted Plane: The question does linger--is a $900 camera, without a lens, entry level? The Rebel line seems to beg for a true entry level--in terms of price--without having to buy a 2 or 3 year old model. No?
But the sensor is from 2009...
Most important will be wether the dynamic range has been increased or not.
The old Canon 18MP-sensors from 2009 are really outdated today.
Let's hope for the best.
The NX-500 with most of the features from the NX-1 - maybe I'll wait for this fantastic camera (instead of a DSLR).
DoctorPDA: I note you do a lot of RAW comparisons in the studio comparison. This is good for RAW photo shooters. However, wouldn't JPEG comparison be important for JPEG photos and for video? For example, isn't the JPEG and video noise at higher ISO's better for the 6D vs. D610 (fair comparison)?
Today it's not necessary to shoot RAW any longer! In fact, modern in-camera corrections only work in JPG. So, shooting RAW is a waste of time.
90% and Gold Award - and THIS MASSIVE flare problem?
Better wait for the next model...