Trying to guess what Nikon's trying to do, maybe...(maybe) I got it: they would like to kill the m43 by attracting customer from p&s who might be willing to upgrade.That's because a more and more successfull m43 risks becoming a threat for the big Nikon's (and Canon's) DSRL...
I give credit to Nikon for having introduced the 1" sensor size. However, the question is what type of camera is best fit for this sensor?I don't dare guessing what Nikon's trying to do. The best type of camera I can think of for this sensor should be better than a p&s and not trying to compete with m43. Look at the LX7 and the RX100, and do better if you can.
MrSkelter: What is going on with this model's pupils? Seriously. She looks fixed and dilated. Have they been badly retouched? Contacts?
Now that you mentioned, I would like to know too. the pupils cannot be so dilated due to low light, because a photo taken with 1/60 at F5.6 and Iso 400 means that there was no low light... Also that point of light in the pupils is a reflection of... what? some kind of flash? please the photographer tell us....
Would have loved to pre-order this lens today... However, considering that the panasonic 45-175 market price was 1/5 of the 35-100, had to settle for it for the time being and ordered it... (maybe in the future... )
Will Panasonic and Olympus still make compatible lenses/cameras?
zodiacfml: To me, its only their Monochrom that makes sense including its price. See, many M9 users convert their photos to BW. It makes sense because the M9 color photos doesn't stand a chance to any competition. Now I understand why they have live view and video, for rich people who can't properly use a rangefinder.
I guess this is a good direction, they're being less stubborn, and hopefully cater to passionate photographers with reasonable prices in the future which surely translate into more lens sales.
"Now I understand why they have live view and video, for rich people who can't properly use a rangefinder". Maybe also to be able to use zooms, macro and tele over 135mm. Wish Mr. Britton asked if such new lenses are planned (not that I can afford to buy any of their products - But I used a film Leica, anyway. wonderful)
Camera and price are out of my reach... but... can't help noticing that there is NO viewfinder, and instead they placed a flash.
Valentinian: Is there an adaptor to use this Fuji 18-55/2.8-4 lens on my Om D E-M5 ? (are you listening, Olympus? any chance to see a high grade m43 14-45/2.8-4 ?)
"the new Panny 12-35 is quite nice". indeed. However, my point was: why doesn't Olympus make high grade zooms for the m4/3 ?Anyway, I agree that the issue here is Fuji. They came out with a very nice camera, and very nice lenses.
Is there an adaptor to use this Fuji 18-55/2.8-4 lens on my Om D E-M5 ? (are you listening, Olympus? any chance to see a high grade m43 14-45/2.8-4 ?)
It seems a good compromise between portability and image quality: a camera small enough to be all the time in your pocket and capable of taking decent photos 90% of the times
Nate21: I am guessing olympus will make a micro 4/3rd camera that uses both 4/3rd and mirco 4/3rd lens, it wil mostly likely be the OM-D replacement or the new section for the system only time will tell.
I'm afraid you're right..... which means no chance to be able to use 4/3 lenses on the EM-5 ...meanwhile they waste time with a new 4/3 body...
I was hoping that Olympus would forget the DSLR system, and would concentrate on making lenses for the MFT...How difficult would it be for Olympus to produce versions of the existing 4/3 lenses making them compatible with the m4/3, that is changing the lens AF motor from phase detection to contrast detection, and leave the optics as they are? Then all that it would take is to use the already existing adaptor, and the MFT system would have all the lenses one could wish...
Noveenia: Contrast detection does not aim at the speed, but the accuracy, does it?
"with PDAF it's easier to get speed, with CDAF it's easier to get accuracy"So, if the hybrid AF doesn't get faster accuracy, what is it good for? (maybe to use the existing canon lenses?)
Greynerd: When contrast detect cameras struggle to focus I often move the focus square to overlap the edge of the object which usually solves the problem. In fact I would move the square from where it is on the Canon example to where it is on the Panasonic example to get focus. It does not seem to be a very convincing demonstration. In fact having the focus square in the middle of the body in a same sized image would be a tougher and more equivalent test.
Edit: Also looking at the examples the Panasonic focus square is also larger which helps especially when it overlaps the object.
Thanks. I understand the first part of your statement: "The Canon uses PDAF to determine initial subject location before calling on CDAF to fine-tune". However, could you say if it is faster and more accurate than Phase AF only and than Contrast AF only?(itis not, right?)
Valentinian: to my understanding, Nokia's great idea was to put a 40 MP camera together with a phone, and to use digital zoom (with consequent lower, but still enough MP).Ok... but... ehi... Sony RX100 has 20 MP, optical zoom AND also digital zoom !... wonder what is the RX100's IQ when zooming down to 5 MP versus Nokia IQ ...
Either my math or yours need to be reviewed... the RX1 is 1.4" thick. for the Nokia 808 to be 1/8th of the RX1, then the Nokia should be 3/16" thick.... wow
I agree... to a point. yes, it is a phone, but one trying to be also a PORTABLE decent quality p&s. What struck me, was that also the RX1 can use the digital zoom trick, and it is more than competitive for price, portability and IQ. Sure,it doesn't have a phone. so, if the phone part is more important for you, and carrying a camera AND a phone is unconfortable to you, then yes, get the Nokia. But this page is for digital camera review, so it is correct to compare the Nokia to a digital camera.
to my understanding, Nokia's great idea was to put a 40 MP camera together with a phone, and to use digital zoom (with consequent lower, but still enough MP).Ok... but... ehi... Sony RX100 has 20 MP, optical zoom AND also digital zoom !... wonder what is the RX100's IQ when zooming down to 5 MP versus Nokia IQ ...
I don't think it is fair to compare this to a digital camera. This is a device which is really, really portable, and it can easily take very decent pictures. Your digital camera can be used only when you go out specifically to take pictures; otherwise it can be left home. It is a good product. It starts a new trend. Others will follow. Now camera makers should stop trying to shrink digital cameras and making them without viewfinder.
Question: why there are no full size mirrorless cameras?
The sensor is great (at least in principle - let's wait for the review), the 22mm lens seems also very good; too bad Canon didn't make a camera to compete with the E-M5, GH3...(are they afraid it would compete with their own DSLR ?)