I have the 808 and if it performs anything like that I'd recommend it to anyone. I won't be upgrading because symbian is fine for me but i would if i didn't already have the 808.
I use mine in 8mpx pureview mode most of the time so i hope this new one isn't limited to just full res & 5mpx
People musn't forget that pentax is reliant on a third party for it's sensors. If that 3rd party for a FF sensor is sony(as you'd expect), then chances are they're under orders to keep quiet so that Sony and Nikon have first run at the market with their new FF offerings.
ThoughtfulMind: Ok, guys, I need help here. I am a newbie to photography, no experience more than taking the occasional pictures here and there, with a recent decision to pick up photography, been reading quite a bit when suddenly my cheapo p&s died. I am trying to decide between a t3i and a t4i. So here's what I'm looking for, I will probably start with the camera on auto, but want to be able to experiment and learn with the manual modes over time. I am also of the mentality that I want to buy something that will last a few years and that I'd rather spend the money upfront rather than start with something basic then pay more down the line to upgrade. I love the fact that the t4i doesn't "effectively" have a 4GB movie limit and a stereo mic, but I am concerned that its slightly noisier than a t3i. And while the t3i can be had at a bargain now, I am wondering how it will hold up quality-wise 3-4 years down the road. I have considered an SLT-57, loved it, but hated the downwards swiveling screen.
"f you want to start a new system, wait 3 weeks until Photokina"
Good advice, lots of new kit will appear and all the old kit will go down in price, best of both worlds ;-)
AllOtherNamesTaken: I stopped reading at "1/2.33". Next please.
You think the majority of superzoom buyers know or care how big the sensor size is in their camera? answer no. These superzooms are all about having a great big zoom and a price to match. They must be profitable because eveyone seems to want a piece of the action.
if you're coming from a P+S never having had a DSLR before i'd say that you need to worry less about the screen, most of the time you'll shoot through the viewfinder.
And if you want a swivel screen for video purposes i'd be tempted to go for a mirrorless model if video is important to you.
Ubilam: I used a 7D today for the first time. Its like... a new Universe opened. Canon should make only 7D's.
i think the k-5 is cheaper than the d7000 at the mo, it's being cleared for a new model hopefully in september (not that i can afford it, got in enough trouble buying the k-5)
cermevez: Hi... WOULDNT IT BE THE BEST TO HAVE MANUAL FOCUS ON THIS EXCELENT PHONE??? that could be added via software update PLEASE DAMIAN, PLEASE NOKIA!.Pd: This phone is the best ever made for multimedia people like me! best photo, best gadget for music (fm transmitter), roughest, etc etc etc! the best!
It does have manual focus
Jostian: Thanks Damian for taking the time to reply, I was VERY keen on the 808 till I saw the low res screen and plasticky build...WHY would you have such a low res screen on a phone with such an amazing camera?????? Screen res is lower than 3 yr old N8, makes no sense!!!
the screen is excellent, yes it's not the highest res but it's one of the brightest out there and is easily viewable in very bright light which is pretty important for taking photos.
As for the build, go hold one, it's fantastic.
highwave: I thought this phone would run the RX100 very close
sadly from what I've seen in the photo comparison with it and the Nikon V1, it seems there is a very sizable gap between it and the 1 inch sensor cameras out there.
It seems even the Canon S100 is better (can't be too sure with the Canon strong noise reduction)
phone cameras have a long long way to go before they kill off P&S like the RX100
"phone cameras have a long long way to go before they kill off P&S like the RX100"
Absolutely, and i doubt they ever will purely because of the limited form factor for a phone. However it does give the P+S industry a major kick up rear to raise their game.
vlad0: I don't think I would ever buy an P&S again. Its something like the 808+DSLR .. everything in between doesn't make much sense to me.
Nikon D800 + Nokia 808 .. that combo would cover 100% of my needs.
That's exactly why i bought an 808, it does have it's faults as a camera but in most situations it does a great job so no need for a point and shoot. For everything else i have my k5.
Superka: If DPreview is reviewing phones now, why not posting film scanners reviews? The also have sensor, lens, and they convert analog photography to digital.
As you know so much explain why they put 41mp in a phone camera, you seem to be hiding from the question. It's quite easy to find out, there's this search engine called google, it's quite handy.
tell us why they put a "meaningless" 41mp sensor on a phone then
there you go again, you obviously don't understand why it has 41mp and why nokia put such a large sensor on a camera phone.
i'm sure they did and i'm sure they're great cameras, but have you also seen the picture quality coming out of the pureview, it's ability in low light compared to other cameras in it's class?
That is why it more than justifies an in depth look from DPR and other photo websites. This camera isn't about re-igniting the megapixel race, it's about bringing in great ideas into a fantastic piece of imaging technology that will be here to stay in many different forms.
(although i suspect it may well re-ignite the megapixell race as i'm pretty sure someone will spring the 81mp camera on us that samples down to 16mp and so on)
have you actually looked at what it's doing with the pixels and why the big 41mp is FAR from "meaningless"? Have a read and you will understand.
This technology will be here to stay in a big way in all forms of cameras.
sorry guys, but this has to be taken seriously as a photo tool so photo websites should be taking a closer look.
Why has it taken a phone company to introduce this innovation and not someone like canon or nikon?
surely any photographer will want this phone in their pocket, the camera is the best in the industry by a country mile and the rest of the phone is decent as well.
The only reason not to buy it is if you're into apps.
ryansholl: There have been ugly cameras in the past, but this one really does take the cake. Others may say what they like about "absolute image quality," and it's not bad in that regard, but if the absolute in image quality came with a Fisher Price badge on it I'm pretty sure I'd not be the only one to shy away. Or "My First Sony" actually seems most fitting, looks a lot like my cassette deck @ 6 years old.
I think there is a lot to like about the K-01 but it doesnt quite cut it for me.Ii think the k-02 (or whatever they call it) will be the one to get.
Whilst it certainly looks rather odd with that 40mm lens on, it looks much better with a more traditional lens attached