I suppose calling it the DP2 "Dick" was out of the question...
Austin101: Overly-conservative DOF scale useless for zone focusing
I zone focus with the 18mm lens while shooting SP all of the time and it works just fine, you just need to spend some time using it to understand how it works.
I really don't think that you have grounds to say that it's useless
You mean you need to spend some time calculating your DOF? Yup, the scale is pretty much useless.
Peiasdf: Can someone tell me what I am looking at on page 21 under "Longitudinal Chromatic Aberration". The gaping bars picture. Thanks.
If SONY combines this sensor and lens lineup with the NEX series, it would be by far the best EVIL/mirrorless system available.
Only if Sony could figure out how to provide enough good lenses though.
IcyVeins: The FX-Pro1 is a great concept but it is not quite yet a finished product. However I expect that the next camera will have improved the autofocus issues, and hopefully it will use an EVF to lower the price. If they do that then it may be a better deal than Sony NEX due to the great lenses available and coming soon.
I would have thought, after the AF issues with the X100, that Fuji would have released the XP1 with better AF performance. I'm not holding my breath for Fuji to figure out how to design a fast AF anytime soon...
Gully Foyle: Maybe Fuji should think to sell sensors to others? Like Sony does. I'd love to see a Nikon/Fuji combo, but on a wholly Nikon camera (i.e. not like the S5).
--EDITBtw, nice camera, although I don't belong to its target market.
I'd like to see it in an Oly E-M5.
Infared: Gee...a $1700 camera body that does not Auto-Focus or Manually Focus well compared to other current state-of-the-art cameras at less than 1/2 the price???? Go figure... I will not be running out to buy one, who would? There are just way too many other choices out there that offer so much more. Disappointing...I love the idea of the camera...but not its reality with all of its quirks.
Sorry, the X100 with new firmware does not "rock." It's better, yes, but you still have to work around it, much more than with the E-M5 or V1. Sure, the image quality is probably better, but a missed shot is worse than a lesser quality one.
love_them_all: Just one statement to sum up this system: there are those who get it and there are those who don't.
Why so much hate? Just don't buy it. But if you want the colors Fuji produces, this is the camera to get. There is reason why so many still love the S5pro.
You mean there are some that like it, and many that don't? I don't think it's hate–it's more like disappointment.
doctorbza: i love - LOVE - my X100, warts and all. it's a fantastic camera with excellent image quality. but i couldn't see buying up to a system with the same fly by wire manual focus. i suspect fuji will get this sorted out, but it's kind of worrisome to see them rolling out a roadmap of lenses that appear to all have this lousy fly by wire system. (and the roadmap is awesome as far as lens selection goes.) hopefully this is something that can be improved via firmware.
Unfortunately, Fuji does not appear to even acknowledge the shortcomings of their X-series cameras. They keep producing cameras (and lenses as you point out) with many of the same shortcomings and idiosyncrysies that have been so widely, and justifiably, critisized.
jenbenn: OF course this camera will be bought by hobbyists for their holiday snapshots because of its nice old-school looks. OF course you can take nice photos with it if conditions are favourable.
But for serious photography? No, sorry! If I do street or travel reportage photos (be it in good or low light) I need a fast (one-shot) AF more than I need low noise. A misfocused image is always unusable while a noisy one is in many cases very usable. In addition, the competitors are not that much noisier, that it would actually matter much in practical use .
Since MF is also very slow, I cant see how this cam can replace my dslr. (Not even talking about the slow shot-to-shot operation and slow wake up from sleep-mode).
What else? For landscape? Yes, maybe, but you dont need high iso there and other cameras are smaller, lighter and cheaper.Actually I love the concept and I want to replace my 5D, but I have to get my shots, that's no.1 priority (low noise and IQ is a strong second)!!
I own both the X100 and the X-Pro1 (with all three lenses) and I'm disappointed by them both (I also own a 5D MKII and the E-M5). Not so much because they are bad cameras, but because they could, and should IMO, be better cameras than they are.
Sure a manual focus Leica might focus slower than the Fujis (I've seen a few photographers that can focus just as fast), but what about the memory write delays? How about the truly inept low-light focusing?
Sure, some don't use the camera in a way that is hindered by these issues, but what if they weren't there?
Damn near perfect camera, the XP1 would be. And Fuji would sell a lot more of them. And I would keep mine. And I would love Fuji.
I truly wish Fuji would hire an industrial designer/interface designer that understands how people use cameras. While the engineering in this camera is outstanding, the overall user experience is so incomplete that many potential buyers are simply not going to buy it. Especially at such a premium price. And it's SO CLOSE to being the perfect relatively-compact pro camera (which is why it's so disappointing).
The numerous quirks/performance failures of Fuji's X-series cameras is an indication that the company doesn't really care about putting out a fully refined product. Fuji's leadership still thinks like a manufacturer of mass-produced consumer-level products of compromise. What a let-down!
Get a CLUE Fuji!! The X100 was much less than it could have been because of its poor performance and half-a$$ed interface, and now the X-Pro1 is nearly as much of a let-down. And I really wanted to love this camera. It could have been a rock star!
LeitzKameraAktion: Nice to see dpreview finally spelling 'colour' correctly!
RuthC: I wonder how long this poster would be graffiti-free of rude/lewd comments? The little old ladies waiting in the bus shelter would not be too impressed with it either....
Where are the legs? I can't see any...
Priaptor: If I were a Fuji owner, as many of you are, I wouldn't be gloating so much. The Sony NEX-7 literally blows the door off your investments, but a discussion for another time.
My take on the X series, is as an owner of an M9 who Leica is appealing to with their X line, the camera just doesn't make sense. But neither does the NEX-7 or Fuji variants, for me, no matter how compelling Sony and Fuji variants are.
Those of us already shooting with an M already have a compact and wonderful camera. I rather buy another lens.
Just my opinion.
"If I were a Fuji owner, as many of you are, I wouldn't be gloating so much. The Sony NEX-7 literally blows the door off your investments, but a discussion for another time."
OK, now there's a rookie statement if I've ever heard one. IQ doesn't matter now? The NEX-7 was obsolete the minute users got their hands on them. Sure, the Fuji user experience is FAR less than it should be, but there's no arguing about the image quality–it's vastly superior to the NEX-7. Doh!
As far at the X2, Leica has apparently lost its way. The X2 appeals to no one except fools. I tried to love my X1, but just couldn't justify the cost and sold it. The X2 is a complete joke, and it shows how Leica is not willing to devote the resources required to compete in the ultra-high-end compact market. M9, maybe, but definitely not the X2.
mpgxsvcd: The title made me think that they were issuing the firmware to shut people up(Silence the chatter). I guess my mind just interjected the "the" in there.
Shouldn't have been a problem from the start though. Don't they test these things with real photographers, or do they leave the testing all to the techtually eliterate?
Aaron MC: I hope that Fuji keeps these updates coming. The ONLY thing keeping me from buying an X Pro 1 are the focus issues.
I have one, and it is relatively slow.
Contrast detect AF is no match for phase detect AF. My 5D MKII is MUCH faster. Can't use the XP1, whereas the 5DII works great for shooting kids (that move [i.e. that are alive]).
Alberto 1290: •Even if the chattering was annoying, the worst problem is the EVF IMAGE FREEZING DURING FOCUS ACQUISITION that make the X-Pro1 a pain to use for " little action photography".
Reliable? Maybe. Fast? NOT. Better than the X100? Maybe??
gordon lafleur: I'm an x100 owner and had higher hopes for the xPro1. I'd hoped Fuji had listened and learned. Obviously not. Why are there bugs at all? Heads need to roll at Fuji
There is no excuse, especially at this price point, to release a product with such SIMPLE, brainless flaws. Again, ESPECIALLY at the X-Pro's price point. If the marketing game is the priority, don't ask people to pay for a higher standard and still play the game.
Biowizard: Fuji is having a rough run - glowing white orbs, chattering apertures ... they say things come in threes, so what's next?
2812photography: I think to expect perfection from any first generation design camera is to live your life with rose colored glasses. When I first saw the specs of the X-Pro 1, my jaw hit the floor. Then experience helped me come to my senses when I told myself, "Wait for a year until they get all the nasty little bugs out before you consider plunking the money down." I'm willing to bet all the major issues will be ironed out in the second generation of this camera. That said, if you compare what's wrong with this camera to what's right with it, the problems become a matter of quibbling.
Except that the problems are fundamental in nature, and that the "second generation" will be an entirely new design that will also have "nasty little bugs." My X100 issues still have not been resolved by firmware updates, and I'm sure Fuji has no intention of perfecting the camera before the next generation is released.
We're all a bunch of foolish consumers willing to "homer" to any promise anyway, right?
Sam Carriere: My my. What a bunch of grumpy sounding people on this forum. It does appear that Fujifilm is damned for not responding to criticism with an update and damned for issuing an update. I wonder how many of the people pretending an expert knowledge of the X-PRO1 below have ever laid eyes on one. ...
I have one, and and X100, and Fuji is not damned for issuing updates (duh), it's for selling products at a premium price that have such fundamental flaws. It's a clear indication of the game the company is playing rather than fulfilling the promise made in all the marketing hype. Lower the prices though, and I think you'll find all the compromises are much more easily accepted.