I'd say that by the count of dpreview staff that came out justifying the review and the score, they're both mortally wounded.
darkplace: Great. Now i can change my lenses under water.
And below -9º.
jon404: First impressions... what? You couldn't take it to a beach... or find a nearby swimming pool? Suggest breaking that test budget and rent a motel room... hit that pool... and see how it works in snorkel-depth water. And, while you're at it, why not put a test target on the bottom of the pool... say at the 2-meter depth line... and start a reference standard for future underwater camera tests?
I thin Jon has a point. What's the point of previewing a UW camera if you don't test it UW?Otherwise dpreview might as well put up a link to the J3.
GodSpeaks: FINALLY... A rugged camera that shoots RAW.
Plus it has a large sensor AND interchangeable lenses.
Nikon, you just made my day. :-)
... it depends on how you define rugged! ;)There's already a lot of weather resistant cameras with big sensors.
Almost no saturated textures in this test and it's even worse in the center third.This chart will be great however for those who make a living by taking photos of concentric circles. :PWell let's hope and pray that you finally solved the recurrent focus inconsistencies...Now, for how long will you keep the old one?
This is interesting because in a Photographing Composition course I attended, we spent the whole first class (2h) trying to determine if this could be called a photo or how different this was from a photo: http://uploads4.wikipaintings.org/images/edward-hopper/morning-sun.jpg
Trollshavethebestcandy: 5 axis ibis with $#it video = face palm.Otherwise the best you can get from the format it seems.Looking forward to 1000 posts of arguing and trolling.
Some of them must care otherwise they wouldn't be touting IBIS being available for video.I care more than enough for video (owning a GH2 might induce that effect) and IBIS on video is Major, however the rest of the video package is enough to totally compromise that advantage.
ntsan: 150-300mm F2.8, I know I can dream
Dream? No, you just need to wake up and cough 6000$. The lens already exists.
I wouldn't say it's the best you can get from the format. You can get similar IQ from either the GH3/GX-7. The EVF also looks better (from specs) on the GX-7 and on a smaller package.Now you are so right about video. It's heartbreaking to see such a capable camera being dispatched with OOC pre-historic video. And with such limited video modes not even an external recorder will help...
Not my kind of tools (for a street shooter) but I'm immensely happy to see this system grow in such a defining way.Like it or not, m43 is part of the Future. A BIG part!
duartix: Stronger AA for reducing moiré in video???This is as ridiculous as it gets. Take a lesson from the Panasonic GH2 and their like and do some serious binning instead of heavily subsampling the sensor. :P
Subsampling doesn NOT require more powerful hardware. Subsampling is a CONSEQUENCE of less powerful hardware otherwise Nikon would be using data from the whole sensor to create video frames and not reading one line out of every N (subsampling).
What the GH2 and other Panasonics do is bin pixels together before they are read out so that the bandwidth is reduced before the readout process starts. If you bin groups of 4 pixels you'll reduce the readout bandwidth by a factor of 4. You will also get a 2EV gain in PSNR and an order of magnitude less moiré.
That is the Panasonic advantage, and that's also why the GH2 trumps the likes of EOS 5D Mk n as far as detail is concerned.
Stronger AA for reducing moiré in video???This is as ridiculous as it gets. Take a lesson from the Panasonic GH2 and their like and do some serious binning instead of heavily subsampling the sensor. :P
What I'm really glad about all this Eye-Fi affair is that with the latest batch of camera bodies, sooner rather than latter they will all have become obsolete. :)Eye-Fi has always followed the strategy of charging ridiculous money for their products, admittedly targeting the PRO market.Transcend is like that guy that arrives to dinner after desert just to get into the drinking bit. The thing is, he's always too late to catch up with the others.
tabloid: To make it simple.
I bet that if I took a picture with my Sony A65 and then a identical picture with a A3000, nobody would be able to tell the difference.
I bet that if I did a video with my Sony A65 and then a identical video with a A3000, nobody would be able to tell the difference.
To me that is the bottom line.
That is really making it simple.Nothing you said could be more TRUE. :)However, consumers nowadays are one bunch of ungrateful and unsatisfied MFs. They get a camera that will take amazing photos and video but they will be left with wanting from day one. :( And they will immediately start wondering about the NEXt nevel.
I'm wondering... this might be a genial move from Sony as it's absolutely the perfect camera to set foot on the customer's door. :O
You lure unsuspecting customers into the system with a camera that offers unprecedented value for money, and leave them wanting more from week two. In my case that would be hour two, but you get the picture... Sooner rather than later you'll get yourself wondering whether to go for NEX5 or upper along Alpha Centaurus.
Good try for your target Sony, but for me it's just over the line on Form over Function. :(
Jefftan: dpreview please correct above with 16-50mm kit lens not 18-55mm
There is a Feedback Button specifically built for that: http://www.dpreview.com/members/feedback?utm_campaign=internal&utm_source=footer&utm_medium=text
KariIceland: Only amateurs do the dutch angle, not professionals.
I wouldn't be calling Alexander Rodchenko an amateur...
monkeybrain: A great idea. And love that crank. Wouldn't it be great to have a crank like that on other cameras. We've all been there, when the battery dies and need to take just one more shot - just turn the crank!
I'd already be happy if cameras charged by USB.
Nice post and all, but...Can anyone add subtitles?Apart from the wire shutter release I can't tell duck...