duartix: Unless that black circle near the grip is another camera/sensor pair, I fail to even imagine how can they generate a focus overlap picture from a single combination of sensor/lens.
Even very advanced software solutions by Google (the google camera app on Android is such an example) need a minimum amount of parallax to reconstruct/generate a depth map and thus create a that focus overlap, but doing this temporally (à la Google) isn't practical on a rangefinder where you need immediate feedback.
Plus, if it is indeed a secondary camera/sensor pair, you will have to account for parallax errors on the focus overlap reconstruction. And what is much worse, you will have to be very careful on where you place your fingers when you shoot.
P.S. Before anyone else does it, I'm always ready to make a fool of myself. :)http://konost.com/?page_id=7182Yes there is. Now I'm just questioning the placement.
@Barry Pearson I didn't understood your explanation to it's full extent, but I don't think that's how it works. This http://konost.com/?page_id=7182 shows a complete sub-area of the main sensor being superimposed. It's how they compute the offset that is the mistery. Maybe it's just a concept and they haven't worket it out yet.But one thing seems sure: the two superimpositions look clearly parallaxed, thus probably beeing sourced from different points. Since the one on the display shows final DOF that can't be it. Probably one comes from the optical viewfinder and the other from the secondary sensor between the main lens and grip.
Unless that black circle near the grip is another camera/sensor pair, I fail to even imagine how can they generate a focus overlap picture from a single combination of sensor/lens.
Atsyn: I dont see the point of this EOS M compared to µ43, fuji or sony mirroless...
@brudyIn your dreams perhaps. I suggest you check with reality here:http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympus-om-d-e-m10/13On a blind test you will never tell the difference.
olyham: The high res mode may do interesting things with a waterfall...be good to see the result
Perhaps you should upgrade your studio poster to include a waterfall. ;)Looks popular.
tkbslc: Seems like a waste to put effort into making the video mode nicer and then leaving off the headline 2015 video spec - 4K.
It's biggest problem with video is not about not featuring 4K.It's because it is still heavily line skipping on the FullHD readout. Yet, 2/3 (bitrates/frame rates/readout) is not completely bad at all.
UnderDriven: Olympus may want to consider implementing a 4-image mode which does not increase resolution, but does provide full color sampling at every pixel...
It's there already @UnderDriven.
It's called the 40 MP multi-exposure mode. It just needs you to dowscale the result in the end and it takes a little longer than what you wanted. ;)
You are welcome.
duartix: So, where is the Equivalence Police right now?
Not for an instant. But perhaps we should. Sellers gotta sell.
So, where is the Equivalence Police right now?
photogeek: I'd buy one, but the lens is not quite large enough. Can they make it twice as large (and heavy) as the body? I'll pay extra.
Yes, I'll have one too if they add an extra battery pack.
newworld666: No real game Changer in the list like the 7DII ? or even QX1 ?
No game changer?What do you call the LX100 then?
razadaz: In recent years photography seems to have become more like Hi-Fi, where many people seem to have become more interested in the fidelity of the system they have than the music they listen to.
Because you can't quantify photography that's where the majority turns to. To something they can measure...
Is Zoom the new Megapixel?Even if so, there is still a lot to be explained here...
Oh, the convergence!
TangoMan: Oh no! More skin smoothing!Examination of all the available images on the image comparison tool show that it works by smoothing away texture. Hair on arms disapear, fruits appear to be made of plastic, and skin... well, it's airbrushed to anormalcy. And white or black dots on green just disappear.If it catches up, I'm afraid texture will become a thing of the past on most images on the web.
Shiranai: JPG2000 wasn't able to replace JPG.WebP wasn't able to replace JPG, altough its heavily forced by Google.Have your try, BPG...
Looking at the comparison, I notice JPG2000 is the only format that doesnt completely blur the points on the green band in medium&large quality. If it didn't have the block artifacts it would almost look like the original. BPG looses lots of small details like these points and the texture on his legs. I guess it will behave badly with noisy photos.
Yes, those points are blurred beyond existence in BPG.
But JPEG2000 doesn't do them justice either and makes them look like mosaic artifacts, which leads me to suspect this is highly related to color subsampling.Anyway, I can live better with those than with severe edge ringing, blocking and aliasing that is present in all but BPG.
It sure looks promising but so did JPEG2000 10 years ago... :(
Summi Luchs: My guess is that they will use the sensor-shift to de-Bayer the image. They can move the red, green and blue pixels between the exposures so, that they get a full RGB sample for every pixel (like a Foveon sensor). This would not give us 'true' 40MP resolution, it is simply the same calculus of 'equivalence' Sigma uses for its cameras. (Sigma uses a factor of three, Oly gets a lower factor of equivalence, as the Bayer sensor is not RGB but RGGB).The gain would be better color information, that what makes Foveon images special.
I don't think they do the same as Hasselblad and other earlier attempts to increase true resolution by sensor movements. Earlier sensors had more blind gaps between the photosites making such techniques meaningful. Newer sensors have a dense array of microlenses (to gather more light per photosite), so there is not much left to sample in between.
A bit of sampling theory...
If they can manage subpixel shifts as it's all pointing to, then it does provide extra spatial resolution, because in reality what you are doing is over sampling.This means that in theory, the Nyquist frequency limit could be doubled. :)
This is much more significant to final IQ than fully sampling every color channel. Humans have much more perception of spatial resolution than color resolution.
A proof of this is JPEG, in which color subsampling plays an almost as important role as compression.
duartix: What? Is this really the High-end pocketable compacts meeting? Why can't I see the Panasonic LX100, then?
Thank you @jdob123. Seems like I had a different definition of pocket.
What? Is this really the High-end pocketable compacts meeting? Why can't I see the Panasonic LX100, then?
duartix: Ctrl + "F": 4K - 0 of 0Ctrl + "F": 4:2:2 - 0 of 0Ctrl + "F": RAW - 0 of 0Ctrl + "F": neutral - 0 of 0Ctrl + "F": zebra - 0 of 0Ctrl + "F": peak - 0 of 0Ctrl + "F": xlr - 0 of 0Ctrl + "F": prores - 0 of 0Ctrl + "F": XAVC - 0 of 0Ctrl + "F": 10 bit - 0 of 0Ctrl + "F": 120fps - 0 of 0Ctrl + "F": price - $5,499
WTF? Is this supposed to be a professional camera??? Because only the price says so!
Thanks for the corrections. I was about to write that either the camera or the press release were nothing near "professional", so it looks like it's a bit of both."Neutral" was me trying to check for the existence of an integrated ND filter.
Ctrl + "F": 4K - 0 of 0Ctrl + "F": 4:2:2 - 0 of 0Ctrl + "F": RAW - 0 of 0Ctrl + "F": neutral - 0 of 0Ctrl + "F": zebra - 0 of 0Ctrl + "F": peak - 0 of 0Ctrl + "F": xlr - 0 of 0Ctrl + "F": prores - 0 of 0Ctrl + "F": XAVC - 0 of 0Ctrl + "F": 10 bit - 0 of 0Ctrl + "F": 120fps - 0 of 0Ctrl + "F": price - $5,499