inevitable crafts studio: no viewfindeeeeeeerrrggghhhh
An optical snap on VF is only good for framing... not focus point selection, etc... etc...
Basically you get no feedback on anything. Great for setting everything and just shooting but its not comparable to an actual OVF on a modern camera.
Interesting... However the x100s seems to be a far more attractive camera.
Especially when you consider this thing with a OVF is 1500+. Then add in the slower (f2.8 vs f2) lens the only reason to go with this is if you really like 28 vs 35 equivalent.
ogl: X-Trans sensor is 5-6 year late. New cameras 16-36 MP with Bayer sensors without AA filter have very weak level of moire. It's not a problem at all.X-Trans is invention of new bicycle without technical support. Deadborn.Fuji can't make the best software for X-Trans sensor and can't solve the problem of their sensor. We get false colours and other types of artifacts instead of moire of Bayer . Adobe and other software developers try to offer anything, but no any serious results.I can't see any advantages of this marginal technology.
Sigma offers the best software to develop RAW from their specific Foveon. Why can't Fuji offer RAW converter?
They do its called Silkypix and its bundled with the camera...
The professional version DP5 has IMO the best X-Trans conversions and is FAR more usable... though it should be the camera is bundled with v3 and this is v5!
DP5 easily out does both CP1 and Lightroom once you learn it...
Shamael: As long as Fuji does not reveal the algorythms to adobe and others to rework those files in a correct way, it is for me out of question to buy any of their cameras. I still have my S5 and it makes huge shots, so, I see no needs to upgrade to a camera& system where no correct raw sotware can handle the files in a satisfactory way.
@isastickup... lol, wow... seems like you have a bit of a grudge...
In any case Fuji actually has a very good track record of listening to customers and from my experience very good customer service...
justinwonnacott: In camera tiff has no advantage whatsoever, it still requires demosaicing the xtrans sensor data (which is the problem), all you would get is a big file with the same appearance as the jpg files written in camera but it would cripple the camera with grossly inflated write to file times.
In the end the same sensor based issues will persist.
you do realize the JPEGs don't exhibit the problems outlined? The problem is matching or improving on the internal Fuji RAW Converter...
mike kobal: Aye, to my eyes, silkypix still does the best job with raw files. Suggestion to Fuji/Silypix: Why not overhaul/update the bundled raw converter to current standards-look at Canon's DPP, it does a fantastic job and is free.
Silkypix DP5 is a lot nicer to use IMO then the bundled version with great results! IMO
Ulfric M Douglas: Capture1 looks way too harsh where Adobe is smudgy and bleedy.Somewhere in between would be good : do Fuji not ship a converter that does the exact same job as their Jpeg in-camera engine?
You should really try Silkypix DP5 with the RAF files... I would agree with marike6 it has very good results...
Sgt_Strider: So can one safely say that the C1 software is the best for X-Trans sensors at the moment?
Have Adobe even acknowledged that their converter needs improvements? I wonder if they'll put in the effort to produce better results for X-Trans sensors going forward?
Its really not bad... think what you will though... Silkypix DP5 does a very good job with fuji Raws...
it just takes some time to get used to over ACR
Its probably important to keep in mind the release notes:
Given that I have to say that I am very happy with the results of Capture One...
Emacs23: Well, I think XPro-2 will show opera with mechanical figures in their OVF.BTW, what the point of this crap?
thankfully you don't get it...
ProfHankD: As long as you're willing to bend over backwards to support an optical finder, would it have been that much harder to have a zoom finder? Don't do that....
I think my NEX-7's EVF is better in nearly every way, but there is a potentially significant advantage in using long lenses with an optical finder: you can see things outside the lens view angle. That makes it MUCH easier to find your subject when working with a long lens. Thus, I think I'd rather see the optical finder stay wide and simply switch to a 100% EVF mode when I've got the subject in frame... perhaps a setting to switch to 100% EVF with a half press of the shutter?
I think you totally missed the point of this kind of view finder.
Its not designed to work well with long lenses...
Jogger: I bet this whole hybrid ovf/evf concept lasts one more generation; after that, there would be little point in doing it as evf will be good enough. They are using a Sony evf in the xe1, btw.
As long as an EVF only covers 100% of the view this type of optical viewfinder will be around. Seeing outside of the image frame is a very powerful compositional tool. One that I am willing to pay the additional cost for as its a vital part of my workflow.
ashwinrao1: personally, at the sacrifice of size, this lens can effectively replace both the 18 mm f/2 and the 90 mm f/2.8 for typical use (with loss of macro and some speed). It's not much bigger than the 90 so wouldn't take up that much space. For fast AF (wonder if it's as fast on the XPro-1, which doesn't have contrast detect AF), I'd snag it....
yes... it has the same processor
Clint Dunn: Pretty stoked to see these improvements...but I hope they added the ability to change the minimum shutter speed when you are using auto iso.....bummer that there is no mention of that. Auto ISO is useless when the min shutter speed is too slow for any given ISO.
I agree that a min shutter speed setting would be great but AutoISO 6400 is very welcome.
Especially in a situation where you want to set Apature/Shutter and let the camera auto adjust ISO.
more less what I expected... It appears to be a solid basic entry level camera and keeps itself distinctly separate from their DSLR line in features... not bad IMO.
However, why is this listed as a "Rangefinder-style mirrorless" there is no OVF???
imbimmer: All looks good except when it comes to AF ... Fuji needs to do some homework there otherwise this is gonna be a major flop.
Its a different AF system that is for sure and it could be improved... but its easily comparable to my old 5D with a 50mm 1.4 mounted... people tend to complain before learning this AF system.
Gregm61: Beware of lens "road maps". It's much easier to show something than actually produce it. Things change and products don't always happen. I would not invest in a system based on what a company plans to produce. If it does not exist, there's never a guarantee it is going to exist.
really?? Pentax had one for years with their DA lens lineup and guess what the lenses are now here...
Fuji annouced this road map with the camera and they have already brought two of the fabled lenses plus the M adapter to market in less then 6 months!
plasnu: I think the worst mistake that Fuji made was they didnt share the same mount with Sony NEX system, like M43. If they shared the mount, it would have been win win for both party. Sigh...
One of the best thing about the Fuji system is its lenses. Why share that advantage with Sony? I know I went the Fuji route because I didn't find Sony's lens lineup appealing
Paul Guba: Makes you wonder how many lenses Fuji is planning on making. Problem Fuji has had is it never had a complete system. Its DSLRs relied on Nikon mount which is why they missed the boat in that market. Cameras delivered good results back in the day.
Niche market at best. If a user had Leica lenses they may buy it but I don't see it happening the other way around, have the adapter buy Leica lens. I will add its not a full frame sensor, so can't leverage all the quality of those great optics.
Always gets back to the nostalgia factor. Leica looking camera with Leica lenes. If that is your market, then it makes perfect sense.
They released a lens map??? we know what lenses they are planning... Oh and this was on the map...
On a side note, there are more then just lecia branded lenses that use the M-Mount...
In any case the X-Pro is a niche camera that fits some perfectly for me its the perfect camera system coming from Canon and Pentax.
This is all great... but its a Beta!
Why even bother posting comparisons? They prove very little if anything due to all the questions surrounding Adobe and if they got the algorithms right.
Wouldn't it simply have been better to wait... and post apples-to-apples.