Coyote_Cody: Why the 'Oh Wow' heading ? Prejudice announcements - DPR you should be ashamed !!
DPR ~= Sony Fanboy now ??
Oh Wow, what is so astounding ????????????
I guess when it comes to Sony cams, ONLY 'Oh WOW' is warranted when they finally have touch screens !!!
Cure all cancers, I will give you a huge 'OH WOW', maybe even a THANKS, just another nice cam - you only earn a 'nice', make sure you always OVER emphasis the NON astounding DPR !!!! Silly stuff here !!
It will be interesting to see what effect those 425 PDAF pts incur, as each PD pt will likely take much more than a single pixel - so lots of copying of the neighbor pixels - just saying there is a cost.
But it is impressive - no 'OH WOW's worth IMO !!
'OH WOW' Canon could have ALLL of their DP sensors be ALL AF points, and their patents show that they could be PDAF pts too or are, but glad they do not do that - after all - its about those -what do you call them - Oh WOW PICTURES - 'OH WOW'!!
This looks like a very nice cam, but touch screen is so great once you ever have it !! Sony's profit's before using touch screen I guess !!
Why the 'Oh Wow' heading ? Prejudice announcements - DPR you should be ashamed !!
So will we see a 'hi-rez' setting that allows the use of all 20/40 mp's for photo uses ?
Just in case 20mp not enuf, then make it a 40mp version!?
(honestly can not see how the IQ would be any higher but for the 'mp cant have enuf' crowd' !
Would like to now see some official DR statement and how it was accomplished (new DR analog realm circuitry & ADC on sensor, etc).
As well as the base topology size (0.18u?) or is there any CIS layer 'stacking' being used, etc.
Also, does it have 'eye/face' tracking as quick as shown on Sony's latest ?
AF mode where you choose focus pt via center AF point (such as eye/face of moving target) and then it follows it automatically (seems a very handy mode for action users) ?
Coyote_Cody: So DPR is mostly a stills site, I thought, but yet we must watch videos to get pointers for stills photography? What might be wrong with this scenario?
So since I do not have the constant bandwidth to watch these silly videos, and apparently still photos are yesteryear, then I DEMAND THAT NO STILLS EVER BE SHOWN ON THIS SITE - EVER AGAIN - Luddite stuff !!
That way, I can just simply ignore all the 'theme' stories and just save time for other 'stills are still viable' forms of art websites !!
Can you say MO-RON-IC !!(of course some smartA$$ will claim I am the moron - well I will save you the trouble-yes a moron for watching silly videos)
So stop doing videos, let ppl 'earn' their 'learning' from that 'reading/thinking' thing rather than - ooh look at the pretty moving pictures-I have already forgotten the use of that video - was that a useless youtube video or something actually useful - oh well my attention span - uh what was I saying ?!
Well Duh !!
But of course you missed the whole point - videos are for lazy non reading ppl & authors who can not concentrate long enuf to pick up the lesson being learned or apparently writing an article - so yes optional but also very NON stills oriented learning !!
So DPR is mostly a stills site, I thought, but yet we must watch videos to get pointers for stills photography? What might be wrong with this scenario?
Marcel: Any editing software with it ?
ONLY a highly used older Porsche !! Not a nice 911 GT3, it is 10x that !! ;)
REDMASTA: Terrible name. The only good thing is if I fly into the back of someone's head i can blame it on Karma.
Agree, lots of names from folklore or ancient religions/myths, but DJI is not a western based biz, asian are they not?
Actually surprised ISIS/etc have not used a drone yet, too complex to fly ? ;)
I use them myself to delivery drugs to my druggies, use FPV, have flashing lights to startle them to prevent panic/destruction of drone, drop the goodies and leave, payment ALWAYS in advance !! ;)
otto k: Is everyone here forgetting that don't actually have 32 millions of *pixels* but 32 millions of subpixels? We're recording green with 16 and red and blue with 8 million dots? We have clever methods of cheating our perception but it's cheating nonetheless. If you want proper 4k and you want to keep square pixels, you need more than 8MP. Might as well be 8k so you use 2G+R+B for every pixel. Samsung NX1 samples 6.5k from sensor then downsamples it to 4k that it saves as video so it's nothing exotic (it's available in 1100 usd camera). Also, downsampling from 8k to 4k will give you 2 extra stops to play, or ability to do excellent stabilization or to pan and zoom losslessly within reason or... Don't box yourself in and try to imagine creative uses. Saying No is easy.
Wrong, he was referring to the Brayer array, NOT the bayer array of pixels !! ;)
The Brayer array was created by an ex-farmer of donkeys turned scientist, he liked the sound of those critters so named his array arrangement after those beloeved 4 legged gray sweeties !!;)
My problem with this and many other 'opinion' pieces are that any # of cams could work just as well IMO, assuming lens are available for the work type.
And certainly many more cams could have the IQ of pics shot, but maybe not be everything one wants.
Opinions are just that, relative, not absolute.
Just my 'opinion' not a statement of absolute anything !!
Pixnat2: This is a marketing statement IMHO. Panasonic was supposed to work on an "organic sensor" with Fuji. Now we learn that R&D about sensor has been stopped a few years ago. Sooo... Organic sensor R&D was dead a few years ago (what a pity), and now welcome to 8K sensor...meh...not too much exciting...
Yes, Canon and others are looking at organic, Canon was looking at it for metering sensors for example, as well as others for sure.
Have you seen an OLED large display, absolutely gorgeous !! A 1080p OLED 50" display is as/more expensive than is a 60" LED 4kHD (high quality) and every bit as lovely as 4khd!!
The colors seem almost 3D!
Caerolle: Eighty million USD doesn't seem like it should be enough to 'get back up to speed'...
I suspect most of the heavy lifting is already done by other research labs under contract, Pan doing the 'how do we make use of that research' and 'make it a viable product' melding it into the necessary ancillary and DSPs needed, etc.
Surely NOT fundamental sensor R&D at that price, a bit too late probably, unless for 2020 or so !!
Unless that is just the 'what does it take to get going' budget, initial hiring, equipment, etc !?
teddoman: I own wool glomitts. I've always wished for the perfect gloves and this story has some great comments in it. I wonder if they're going to be able to build a perfect glove that fits everyone's needs. For me, thin gloves are the right size but too cold, and thick gloves are the right warmth but too thick. I just ordered some cheap 7 mm neoprenes to see if those will work for me. Would it make sense for Vallerret to design some sort of attachment so people can cut off the tips of whatever gloves they buy to match their size/warmth needs and then still be able to cover their fingertips with the attachment?
There are many gloves which have multiple layer/gloves within 1 glove approach, at least I have seen them.
Add the inner layer if very cold, add outer layer if very wet, etc.
Horshack: Based on their stock price GoPro is in no mood for a new competitor:
Last Trade: $18.9352-week Low: $18.7552-week High: $71.50
Yes investors have lost their love for GoPro after their IPO, for various reasons for some time - according to CNBC.
As others have said, this type cam is just too easy engineering wise to not create equal but cheaper versions, not an Apple-like place to be in.
Also, everything made in China is ripe for copying, something many countries have discussed repeatedly w/ China's rulers, to no avail !
You know you could just cut a slit in any glove and have the same thing (even sew up edge), leather or some materials would be best.
Style second Function first, well for non posers !! ;)
alcaher: Too much technology, computers and spaceships,NASA uses ..an yet they are not able to tell us the real beauty and mistery of their main subjet of study: "the universe", something that old civilizations like Egipt or the mayas did.
Ok fine live in your small ludite, backward looking universe. Enjoy !!
bobbarber, we do NOT know that physics/chemistry is the same throughout our own galaxy, let alone the complete observable or not yet parts of the universe - silly to think this IMO!
How do we know that dark matter is diff in other parts of the universe, or what happens to 'our' physics under extreme gravitation or in the influence of a black hole or white dwarf, neutron star or some of the really weird things yet to be discovered/revealed ?
You are wrong to believe water is a constant or any of our 'known' constants are that!
The creator of the/this universe, or all of them, who/whatever he/she/it is, just might have used many types of physics - silly to thing otherwise IMO.
A feeble brained man thinking he knows what the creator of universe was thinking - 'He knows not what he does not know' !!
If you really think this then you do not know the massive amount of totally new info, speculation and ideas that have occurred in the last 50 or so years from optical & non optical telescopes and instruments.
Surely not all info, but more than previous, and guess what, the next 50 will bring MORE than the prev 50 then & on & on, assuming we keep trying - many ppl do not care for new knowledge of the universe or appreciate it, some do not understand it or its implications, some are afraid of new knowledge which may change their traditional views, religious or superstitious or political !!
There have been very knowledgeable men who said we know nearly everything there is to know, a hundred years ago ! Arrogance & stupidity !
Some of us are just curious & would like answers ! ;)
Karroly, maybe reread and comprehend, I 'plainly stated' that his thinking was muddled either from kick in head or drug induced stupidity, how is that grammar criticism, you on the other hand was defending his lack of at least using a spell checker !
Were you kicked in head too? ;)
"If the mouth is closed, we only wonder, if the mouth is open - the world sees a fool"