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Dougbm_2
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Dougbm_2: The 12-50 looks too large and the images from it not so impressive. Would it therefore be better with a 14-42? Although the review shows samples from a few lenses I didn't read a comment on the 12-50 lens (did skim the review a bit though). Seems Olympus have done a great job.
I realise a prime is better. My X100 proves that. I would be interested in a zoom with the Oly but with a small body I would prefer a small ZOOM lens. The 12-50 is longer than the 14-42 and even the 14-150. Not quite as heavy as the latter though. Which of these zooms has the best IQ? (I would assume the shorter the zoom the better the IQ). And is there much variation in focusing speed? Weather sealing is not so important to me.
The 12-50 looks too large and the images from it not so impressive. Would it therefore be better with a 14-42? Although the review shows samples from a few lenses I didn't read a comment on the 12-50 lens (did skim the review a bit though). Seems Olympus have done a great job.
Interesting review. I was always very pleased with the G11 images at low ISO's.
I have had a brief play and I think the X10 has a much nicer viewfinder and looking on Flickr seems to have a bit better image quality overall (orbs aside). I have an X100 now and love it's viewfinder, IQ and lowlight/high ISO performance. If only it too had a 4 x zoom. Can't have it all! It seems the x10 is better in low light than the G12. Tempted by the X10 but if I was to switch back to Canon would probably go for the G1X.
Sunshine_boy: Well done DPR for immediately putting the new X10 sensor to the test. Readers can judge for themselves the improvement 'before & after'. Your test would have been even more useful if you included the same image taken by another 2-3 cameras of the same class. Then your test results would have been even more informative.
If you cannot add the other cams' images here, I hope you include them in your full X10 review.
X-Pro1 lens chatter fixed with a firmware update. Maybe it's Fuji's way of getting us to talk about their cameras. Focusing is apparently slower than x100 currently is. Also depends on the lens. Wait for firmware fix?
Marty4650: I'd say this is an inexcusable defect for a $3500 camera. And it will be pretty expensive to fix, since a "firmware upgrade" can't do the work of a light seal. I imagine that all the 5DIIIs sold will have to be shipped back for a modification now.
Canon simply must do better quality control testing.
It's really a lot cheaper to get it right the first time.
Check out BPJosh's link and it shows how it causes underexposure.
Ruy Penalva: Not a very important issue but must be fixed. It is natural that any recent released product shows some minor errors mainly in software but this one if really it is a light leakage is a building defect. A cap in the strap is provided to cover viewfinder in case of live view under direct sunlight entering viewfinder. So we already know that light could alter exposure meter in live view when direct ligt source enter the unprotected viefinder in live view mode. I wonder why MKIII is more priced than Nikon D800 although it has less pixels than it. Is it not that intriguing?
Why would you price a camera on the MP alone?
owenleve: Still not a camera that is up to professional standards....
You can always pay 4 times as much for a Leica if you don't mind inferior low light performance. Is there a professional compact? Or is only an SLSR fast enough/ robust enough and versatile enough to be considered professional? Fuji are hoping other wise with the X Pro-1 I would think.
I use my X100 both professionally (landscape and scenic work) and for fun. It is also my best lowlight camera - better than my 5D MK1 and 60D (by miles).
snake_b: Awesome.
The X-series has been a complete disaster.
Complete: entire - whole - total - absolute - full. Then how come the X100 is so loved and awarded? Because fundamentally it is fabulous. Fuji have had issues (sticky aperture on X100 and orbs on X10) but they have or are fixing that plus addressing the firmware issues/requests. Yes it would have been better without the issues but there certainly has been no complete disaster. Browsing through the thousands of X100 images I have taken confirms that to me.
photoholiko: I don't understand why Canon came out with a camera like this without interchangeable lenses, it doesn't compete with NEX, Fugi or even
Pentax K-01.
There are better choices with better zooms.
Fugi? Is that a type of mushroom? : ) I think the concept is good but the execution is lacking. If it looked better, had faster af and a decent viewfinder I would be interested for sure. This is a compact for those who don't want to change lenses. As it is I think the NEX 7 or even Fuji x-Pro (with a zoom lens) will be my next step or the OM-D E-5. Still love my X-100 though (even more so after the recent 1.20 firmware update)
turretless: That's exactly the camera I wanted when I was buying my G11. Oh, well... :(
Indeed. Released a year or so too late really. We do have to remember the 2011 Tsunami and it's huge impact on the Japanese. That fact they are releasing new products at all is amazing. And we are so spoilt and more and more demanding. Imagine the fuss over this camera if it was released just 2 or 3 years ago...
I must say despite the criticisms of slow af, poor optical viewfinder etc the images I have seen here and elsewhere are consistently very good indeed (I have a Fuji X 100 so am used to great IQ). I think we need to regard this as a super G12. Mind you the main reason I swopped to the Fuji was the amazingly clear and useful optical/EVF viewfinder. The amazing low light and IQ was a surprise (I was one of the first to buy).
Prognathous: Looks like a great camera. Too bad it uses the worst kind of LCD articulation (side hinge), and a tunnel-view OVF instead of an EVF. Still, quite tempting.
Have you used a side hinge LCD? I found it pretty useful on the A650IS and G11 as it is useful for portrait and landscape (orientation) shots eg up a tree etc
D1N0: Great Camera but it should have interchangeable lenses.
No, then it would be a 600D lite.
photo nuts: It's not the lack of interchangeable lenses that renders the G1X unattractive, it's the ridiculously out-dated out-classed AF for a 2012 camera that kills it. A clear sign that Canon has stagnated and is going nowhere.
Stagnated and going nowhere? Bit of a blanket statement. However this camera is a year too late. Come on Canon this camera with faster AF, a top notch EVF (or much better optical viewfinder) and brighter lens would compete! Ah but then who would want a 600D?
Odd choice really not to make it 4/3 so as to differentiate between models more clearly.
Interesting to read Ken Rockwell's review where he recommends to have DR on auto and ISO on auto and how the flash works well with this to give perfect fill in flash.
He is (as usual) a bit overenthusiastic about the camera and loves the panorama mode more than I do. I have tried it indoors on manual focus with it stopped down and not that impressed. Probably best for outdoors.
One thing I have never liked on the X-100 is when shooting in continuous drive modes (5fps or 3 fps) the images are saved as a group with a different naming convention. Completely unnecessary and makes playback awkward and a mess of my computer workflow. Another instance of Fuji being TOO clever.
Correction to post re toggle control. Should say "Toggle to LEFT reverses sequence..."
As I said below I find Also I do find the way the controller wheel rotates to the left to increase ISO value (and other values in some menus - and to fine tune aperture with the Toggle Control) counterintuitive. I think Fuji have tried to follow the way the manual top dials turned which is to the left as well. Still confuses me. Which way do you turn the volume knob on a stereo? Right to increase and left to decrease.
Final thoughts. Wonderful camera now even better BUT I think Fuji needs to focus on making things simple as well as clever. And to do more testing before release to avoid the costly issues they have had so far (sticky apertures on X-100 and orbs on X-10 and X-S1.
Looking forward to the x-Pro-1. Especially if they release a 25-100 stabalised zoom (and a 70-300 zoom) or similar.
Been playing more with the toggle control. In Playback mode push it in to zoom to the max to the center of the image (you can scroll around the image with the main control wheel). Press to fully zoom out if even partially zoomed in. Toggle to the right to bring up exif info and again. Keep going until back where you started. Toggle to right reverses sequence beginning with a center cross hair which I though would be the focus point but is only the center of the image (pointless really).. Handy if you prefer not to have this info on screen normally.
Still happy with my 5D Mk1. Fantastic image quality and sensible file sizes. Could do with a decent LCD and maybe a stop more ISO. That's it! Video? Pah! Get a camcorder. Lighter, cheaper and better. Still if I did find one of these in my xmas stocking....