D1N0: They have a "We are Canon" attitude. So you don't have a decent mirrorless line? We are Canon! So you still suck at high ISO? "We are Canon!" When we make it, they will Buy.
Argument is different to arguing. : )
Yes and I would like one.Still this strays from the original argument which was in response to the original post.
Who mention Mp? We were discussing DR.Personally 36 Mp is too much for me. I prefer smaller files. I repeat - I think the D810 is exceptional but that doesn't mean the Canon is poor.
Better by a little from 6400 to 12,800 - pretty much neck and neck from ISO 800. I quite agree the D810 is superior. I only post this to counter the claims that the Canon is somehow totally hopeless. It is outstripped for DR by the D810 at the lower ISOs but is not useless.
http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Nikon-D810-versus-Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III___963_795Go to measurements and click on Dynamic range. Admittedly not much in it and the Sony senor is way ahead at lower ISOs and way cleaner (ie when lifting shadows). Both cameras fall below DR10 after ISO 1600 anyway so physics still applies. ie shoot at the lowest ISO possible.
Dougbm_2: He doesn't seem to know much at all about the market place. Life in a bubble.
Aur: The dismissive attitude of the competition outpacing them is sad, it's very reminiscent of Nokia.
Saying they would use better sensors if anyone made them, Sony and CMOSIS sensors have way more dynamic range, some have global shutter and they're generally simply better.
Saying they provide enough lenses. Carl Zeiss their Sony lineup have all brand new lenses with MTF charts that easily beat Canon's offerings.
Sony FF sensor only has more dynamic range under ISO 800 when the Canon takes over.
PeaceKeeper: I am betting less than 10% of Canon's customers are professional "photojournalists". The rest are hobbyists, enthusiasts, and casual photographers.
In other words, he just gave 90% of his customers the finger(or any of countless other insulting hand gestures).
All the dancing around issues aside, I just can't wrap my head around the fact he thought this was a good strategy. Surely there were better ways to avoid questions than alienating their main source of revenue. Consumers are too well informed to swallow that "We make it for professionals, if you don't want it, you must not be a professional" nonsense(or are they?)
I reckon over 50% of tourists I regular see in New Zealand have an entry level or enthusiast Canon DSLR with a kit lens. Most people are not gear heads or forum trawlers but for them the name Canon is synonymous with quality photographic equipment.
Suck at hi ISO? The 5DIII has better DR than D810 past ISO 800 but the Sony sensor has cleaner shadows. The D810 creams DR below ISO 800.
He doesn't seem to know much at all about the market place. Life in a bubble.
sailorboy414: Like it...don't like it...at least it is leader in zoom. It has been a while since Nikon put out a camera that leads in something. Recently they've been following and not leading.
Following??D810 best in class, D750 best overallD7200 best in class (probably)
tkbslc: atmospheric distortion + haze + diffraction + camera shake = FANTASTIC PHOTOS!!!
I had an SX40 that was poor at 'cutting' through the haze. I got much better results with a 70-200 lens on my 7D. The 840mm SX40 image was useless. It was surprisingly good otherwise but didn't serve the purpose I wanted it for.
Kaso: "It finds itself in the same class as the Canon EOS 7D Mark II, Pentax K-3, and Sony SLT-A77 II DSLRs as well as the Fujifilm X-T1, Olympus OM-D E-M5 II, Samsung NX1, and Sony Alpha 7 II mirrorless cameras."
The Sony Alpha 7 II is a full-frame mirrorless camera. How can it be in the same class as the Nikon D7200? Maybe you should have added the Nikon D610, the Nikon D750 and the Sony Alpha 6000 to the "class" to make it more interesting and... crowded?
A77 not A7.
princewolf: Yet another 1/2.3'' tiny sensor camera...
How else would they make such a large zoom range? Even on a 1" sensor the lens would be massive.
They need about 10 stops IS for this!
Limited to those Pros "who are using digital cameras of at least 16 Megapixels". How utterly pathetic. So they want images from my 18Mp 7D not my superior 12.9Mp 5D! So nothing from my X100 or any previous camera let alone SD14 or Fuji S2 pro
Any fixed lens system over 200mm that doesn't include an EVF is pretty unusable.
They are so afraid to 'contaminate' their DSLR range that they are unable to produce a decent mirrorless camera. With a quality EVF this would have outgunned both Panasonic and Sony in the high end bridge segment. As it is they land a product in no mans land again. Pity. I would have considered this as a good partner to my Canon 5D.
Dougbm_2: DP Review you say "The D750 has a lockable mode dial". Does that mean it is optional to lock it or compulsory?
Crap. It's like a 60D. Why don't they, make it so you press down to lock and it stays locked and press again to unlock and it stays unlocked. This is flawed industrial design. I am regularly switching between AV and M and even custom modes even shot to shot. This lock button is just a nuisance.
Hold my beer - I got this: 760D vs 70D vs A77 ii vs GH4 vs (Feel free to throw in whatever)
for a new guy who is about to build his arsenal and is aiming to shoot video - shortfilms
@ThatCamFan see this :http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=sony_slta77ii&products=canon_eos7dii&products=nikon_d7100&products=canon_eos70d&products=pentax_k3&sortDir=ascending