Roger Nordin: The price difference is too low to have a serious impact on the GoPro (not offering any killer features beyond the GoPro). A real GoPro killer is either killing it with some fantastic features the GoPro doesn't offer at a compare pricepoint, OR approaching the same feature set for a fraction of the pricepoint. GoPro is MUCH too solid a brand to be touched by a me-too offering at a me-too pricing point!
A latter camera is the $70 USD Mobius camera, which a lot of people doing RC photography could find good-enough to do areal 1080p 30fps or 720p 60fps video with real-time video output to feed a FPV transmitter, where previously the only option was to save and pony up for GoPro camera. It's hardly a killer, but at least it's an interesting option.
The iON appears to be very superior to the GoPro for one reason...its shape. The square shape of the GoPro makes NO SENSE when mounted on fast moving objects (skiers, race cars) due to its poor aerodynamics, and ease of being ripped of in a scraping collision.
It depends on what the point of the image is. Adjusting exposure, contrast, colorimetry, grain, etc. of the shooting of Lee Harvey Oswald doesn't bother me at all. Substituting someone else in place of Jack Ruby would be forbidden.
National Geographics' disqualifying of a first-place contest image by the photographer because he photoshopped an ancillary beer can out of an image foreground was asinine.
I just watched the "Adobe CEO Avoids Answering Questions on Overpricing in Australia" video on YouTube. SEE IT SEE IT SEE IT !!!The Adobe CEO is absolutely the most F*%ked-up guy I've ever seen.
He REFUSES to answer a direct, easily understandable question from a magazine writer, even after being asked the SAME question 3 times !!!
I had not realized what a screwed-up company Adobe was until another person on this forum pointed out this video. LOOK AT THIS VIDEO, and then tell me if you want to use products from a company with a CEO like this! I'll bet that he was the driver on the upcoming Photoshop CC fiasco.
I've been using Photoshop for decades, but I won't be upgrading (I've got CS6 Extended now). I'm a home semi-pro, and cannot justify spending that ridiculously expensive annual surcharge for small improvements to a product that ALREADY does more for my prints than I'll ever need.
I'm looking forward to DPreview's review of alternatives to Photoshop CC...and I'm anticipating Adobe's bankruptcy after someone is inspired enough to create something slightly inferior at a much lower price.
As a Note 2 user, I know that the 5.5-inch screen on the Note 2 already has 720P (1280x720). Samsung is not going to put less than 720P on their bigger 5.8-inch screen. I'd bet that either or both of the new models will be 1920x1080.
marike6: It's hilarious to see the m43 fans beaming with pride because their camera won a popularity contest. The fact is "Reader Polls" are almost always driven by fans voting for whatever camera they own.
But it seems some actually believe that the results of an online poll are some indication of superiority. All I can say is if you shot with a 5D3, A99, D800 or D600 it's doubtful you'd vote for an EM5.
marike6, you are the penultimate H8TR !! Why don't you stop talking and go out and shoot some creative photos...you'll feel better.
John Koch: Good cameras that did not make it to the select list:
Oly TG-1: great "tough" camera that resists drops, heat-cold, and submersion to 40', while also delivering decent pics and video.Panny FX200: super zoom with constant F/2.8 aperture.Sony NEX6: a thrifty version of the NEX7, plus new features.Canon T4i: bargain DSLR with best menu scheme.Nikon V2: lots of high-end features in a small package, and certainly outsell the FF Nikon stuff.Panny LX7: F/1.4 aperture, 1280x720 120fps video, time-lapse (stuff the other compacts lack), plus best manual control dials, wheels, and knobs, all at a low price.
The OM-D EM5 appears to have won, fair and square, drawing votes of middle-aged folks who may not even own or use it, but are nostalgic for the OM-D look. Those who pay the high price for the body (enough to buy a PEN kit plus a nice lens) become true believers by force, even if they secretly loathe the menu system.
"The OM-D EM5 appears to have won, fair and square, drawing votes of middle-aged folks who may not even own or use it, but are nostalgic for the OM-D look."
WTF? I'm a retired Director of Photography with 4 international Gold Medals and numerous domestic awards. I may be middle-aged, but I absolutely NEVER CONSIDERED buying an OM-D E-M5 because of its "retro looks". I did my research, looking at side-by-side comparisons here at DP Review, at Imaging Resource and every other international site I could find. I carefully considered what each system would cost with the lenses that I wanted, and looked at the quality of each system's IQ vs cost and weight/bulk. The E-M5 came out on top. If anything, the "retro look" was a turn-off for me. Price/performance means everything, what the camera looks like means absolutely NOTHING.
Reilly Diefenbach: Come on now, D800 fans, is this little shrimp of a camera going to show us its heels?
Yes, a better camera CAN by definition have a lower IQ or slightly lower focus speed. You are forgetting to factor in the COST of the D800 as a measurable very negative factor when evaluating its other features. How many of you drive Bugatti Veyrons? Yes, the Bugatti's spec-sheet puts it on top, but nobody calls it the "best" car due to its wildly high price. "Best" should be an evaluation applied to a camera with cost included as a very, VERY important factor. That's why I term the E-M5 as the best camera.
Steven Rounds: The OM-D E-M5 wins my vote. I just got back from a trip to China, and had to shoot hand-held telephoto shots of the Xian terra cotta warriors with very low light levels (less than 5 foot-candles in some spots). The E-M5's exclusive 5-axis IBIS absolutely ROCKED, with sharp shots at 150mm (300mm equivalent), at a 1/8th second exposure. Here's a small, lightweight weather-sealed camera, with a $199 40-150mm zoom, that got me the sharp shots I needed for 16x20 blow-ups.
And I wasn't lugging a monster camera around all day. Both of the private guides I hired in China asked me for various shots to put up on their web sites...they both said the shots were the best they'd ever seen.
I'll get some up in a couple of weeks as I'm super busy right now...I shoot with very low sharpening levels, and then sharpen the raw files in ACR. For now, take a look at the shot of a Plymouth Prowler I got on my first day of shooting with the E-M5:
This was shot at ISO 6400, 1/40th sec exposure, while holding the camera with one hand while driving a second very-stiffly-sprung Prowler. Illumination is from traffic lights ONLY, with nothing but empty unlit desert behind me.
Note the blurring of the wheels, while the body seams are sharp. Since this shoot, I've gone to a max ISO of 10,600, since I could completely eliminate the grain from the raw file with ACR at ISO 6400.
re: Porsche, it has a rear engine that gives it inherently bad handling. Their mid-engine car, the Cayman, is purposely not fitted with a limited-slip diff., so as to keep it from outperforming the 911. They've dumbed-down the Cayman to protect their higher-priced 911 sales.
Porsche/Canon/Nikon are dumbing-down their less-expensive products (G1X) to keep them from competing with their more expensive products. Olympus didn't worry about that...they made their E-M5 much, MUCH better than their E-5.
Strive for excellence, not product-protection-placement.
One of the more incomprehensible statements I've ever seen on this forum. The Canikon hordes are tearing their hair out, seeing the resale value of their legacy equipment dropping every time someone votes for the better camera (E-M5). Like Porsche, Nikon and Canon are carefully resisting the urge to invent game-changing products. They come out with dumbed-down products to protect their market share. Olympus just invents the best product it can.
The OM-D E-M5 wins my vote. I just got back from a trip to China, and had to shoot hand-held telephoto shots of the Xian terra cotta warriors with very low light levels (less than 5 foot-candles in some spots). The E-M5's exclusive 5-axis IBIS absolutely ROCKED, with sharp shots at 150mm (300mm equivalent), at a 1/8th second exposure. Here's a small, lightweight weather-sealed camera, with a $199 40-150mm zoom, that got me the sharp shots I needed for 16x20 blow-ups.
Kongtotoro: I could not update the lens firmware, it is still 1.1 version. Anyone could help?
I already had v1.2 installed (before Olympus pulled it). I had to first update from v1.2 to v1.4 (v1.5 won't show as an option until you've done the upgrade to v1.4).
Keep in mind that you CAN'T immediately update from v1.4 to v1.5 from within the new updater program...you must power the camera off after the v1.4 update, and then reboot by powering it back up again. THEN you'll be able to update to v1.5 (I did all this on a Mac Mini running Snow Leopard 10.6.8, not Lion).
Steven Rounds: Interestingly, I made a comment about an hour ago about how dxomark.com sat on their results for the E-M5 camera sensor for months, without giving any reasonable reason for the delay. Why was my comment expunged? I'd love for dpreview.com to address the issue...
Sure they do...if we're questioning whether dxomark is impartial, they need to clear the issue up.
Interestingly, I made a comment about an hour ago about how dxomark.com sat on their results for the E-M5 camera sensor for months, without giving any reasonable reason for the delay. Why was my comment expunged? I'd love for dpreview.com to address the issue...
filmlaw: I am really torn and solicit everyone's opinion. I can't decide between a Sony NEX 7 and E-M5. Kit lens with both to start. I want a camera that delivers great images after enlargement and post-processing and is easy to travel with thus the reason the DSLR must stay home. I have now ordered both but will only purchase one. I like the idea of the size of the APS-C sensor over the 4/3. I have downloaded and thoroughly read both manuals and every review and I am still looking for the definitive reason to select one over the other. Conversely, the E-M5 image stabilization in the body seems superior to optical stabilization. Thank you for any help.
Go for the E-M5...the IBIS allows for amazing video footage hand-held. I've been a professional video cameraman for 35 years, and Olympus's IBIS cannot be matched by any other camera, period. I just shot some long hand-held takes (3-4 minutes each) and my producer couldn't tell that I hadn't used a tripod, even though I was zooming into medium-telephoto shots up to 40mm (80mm equiv.). The supposed smaller-sensor deficit of the E-M5 compared to APS-C is negligible...the 5-axis IBIS of the E-M5 makes it superior to ANY other camera, regardless of sensor size (and that INCLUDES full-frame).
Alexander Vienna: Enabling the Super Control Panel for fast settings changesHello, I do not understand this.... it does not work... anybody here how can help?
The Super Control Panel is one of our favorite user interfaces - it puts all your key settings on a single screen, making it easy to check or change your setup. On the E-M5 it's been made even better by being made touch sensitive, meaning you can simply hit OK to bring the screen up, tap the setting you wish to change, then spin the dial to change it. Alternatively, you can press 'OK' to see a list of available settings.
Strangely, though, Super Control Panel isn't enabled, by default, in the E-M5's live view settings. We think this is one of the most important single changes you can make for making the shooting experience faster and more enjoyable.
Thanks to Peter 1745! I had laboriously been switching to the SCP by hitting the button on the side of the viewfinder, which didn't always work. Your technique of hitting the OK button to bring up the SCP is a HUGE improvement! BTW, it supers the SCP over the live view, so it's better than the normal way of accessing the SCP, which blanks out the live view. This lets me run the camera in my preferred mode (with ALL icons turned off), but still lets me access the options directly. THANKS!
No one seems to be commenting on the BEST advantage of the OM-D E-M5...good-looking chroma compression artifacts at hi-iso. Pixel-peep at the results of the hi-iso test images (3200 and above). Almost every other camera (the Sonys are the worst) have HORRENDOUS chroma-clumping artifacts. Note how the noise causes blobs of color to appear in smooth fields of color (especially reds).
The Olympus OM-D shows a smoother, random chroma-noise grain structure that is easy to overlook (it looks like hi-iso film grain). Almost everybody else has these God-awful blobs of color appearing anywhere there is a smooth field of color.
-from the Sony Pictures Digital Entertainment Senior Broadband Compressionist (Retired).
In regards to the "Silver Award" given to the Canon G1 X by DP Review in its test review...check out this link:
Note that if you search DP Review for "Canon PowerShot G1 X light leak", you'll come up with NO links or discussions of the problem...what the hell is going on at DP Review? Is it run by Canon fanboyz?