Red G8R: Of the three latest mirrorless cameras, EM1, A7/R, and the XT1, the XT1 appeals to me the most and as soon as it's available, I'll be trying it and most likely buying it.
For some reason anything that looks like yesteryear's contraption sells these days. That's how!
Timmbits: I'm puzzled as to why there is marked difference in sharpness and contrast between the Oly omdem5 and the Pan gx7 test images. They do test with the same lens, right? Why would the Oly be sharper then? I'm not sure I get it - same sensor size, same bayer pattern, both have olpf... I see nothing to explain the softness of the gx7 other than bad focus?
ps: Merry Christmas everyone!
I don't think everyone sees this "marked" difference. But, if you are in the market, why don't you go to a store and try both cameras for yourself, see what your experience is. These reviews here are no longer reliable or objective.
JJ Rodin: EOSHD said the video was essentially superior to the GH3 by a small margin, and only short of the BMCC/PPCC in rendering shadows. So equal or better than GH3 which we all know is only inferior to 5DIII & BMCC/PCC is a solid statement for its video.
So either DPR or EOSHD are not judging well.
The GM1 sensor is a new Panasonic built one, unlike the Sony sensor in GH3, some believe the GM1 foretells what to be expected for GH4 but full 4k video, &/or full sensor scans downcasting! Likely just good 4k video.
Good that Pan did not cripple GM1 like many other cam makers likely would! Good price considering.
I don't know about the sensor. But I heard they are using a Mastercraft screwdriver to tighten the bottom screws...
Naveed Akhtar: GM1 and GX7 if you compare it here in RAW, shows they are essentially the same sensor, no visible difference at all. But if you look at silly DxoMark score there is a visible difference. Any ideas?
For me it comes to what form factor does the job. IQ of these things in real life are so close that "what model" becomes irrelevant. I print on epson 3880 and am 100% satisfied with, M9, gx7. d700, coolscan 5000, and for super light trips LX7 gets the job done. I really don't wonder about models and brands anymore. Now, it's like kind of Velvia/Kodachrome era. If the pics aren't good, it is you! stop blaming the photo lab for bad exposures and the extra toe in the corner....
jamesm1291: As an owner of the DF, I was was amazed by how much it resembled an attempt to damn with faint praise. Then I saw the rating and saw the reviewer had to concede the excellent performance of this camera in the face of his prejudices. I began seriously taking photos in the 50's through a series of Pentax, Canon and Nikon film SLR's. The DF harkens back to these days and I am unashamedly in love with it. Unlike the opinion the reviewer, I find this camera feels quite solid and substantial. It also has wonderful creative capabilities and provides logical access to them. No other DSLR can surpass it in the excellence of its images. It cries for prime lenses, not zooms.
If you are a lover of fine craftsmanship, appreciate the old days when the photographer controlled the camera and not the other way around, want the finest available image quality and are into walk around street photography and stunning portraiture, this camera shines. The price is high, but the rewards are great.
"...why should I bother to go back in time..."
YOU, don't have to go anywhere..buy what pleases you.
Maverick_: Why punish Nikon for stepping out and producing a beautiful retro camera.
It's not like they abandoned their normal model range.
They just paid homage to the classics. Red Dot does it every day. Auto and motorcycle companies do this rather often too. Nothing wrong with it.
And of course the internals are from a current model, did you expect they create a whole new product just to sell a handful for those with a sense of nostalgia?
As a non-Nikon fan, I think Nikon should actually be praised for thinking out of the box for just one model. Nice concept!
"...or computer operating systems..."
I'm sorry, did you say you miss Windows 3, or VISTA :-)
I don't care too much about this retro look, even though it looks good.
What I like is the performance and the smaller size than D4. I never cared for D800 as good as that camera is, I don't need to fill my drives twice as fast.
RichRMA: Americans won't like this one. They tend to buy cameras on a weight to dollar ratio..
That's why I prefer my Linhof
rurikw: Beautiful minimalist design but can't understand the decision to cripple it by leaving out the hot shoe. Its inclusion would hardly have compromised the design in any way. Don't like fixed screens either but this is one of the few cameras where I can understand that choice.
You want to buy this tiny camera, and carry a bulky external flash along with it?
An external flash that does a decent job will be 4x bigger than the camera itself. You can always use flash with remote trigger if the external flash photography is such a priority. External flash on camera is a lousy position anyway.
kpaddler: Con: Focus mode dial not especially useful
Don't use it then! Nobody forces you.
I don't like the grip on omd EM1, should it be a knock against it???
There others who appreciate it.
I had read the review. And I did not find the point valid there either.
Obviously, panny decided to not to put too many physical control on the camera. The two most important control factors in any camera are exposure and focus controls. This camera has decent exposure contorl, and that focus switch covers the focus control.
I can go on and wish for 5 other things about the interface, but then that would be a very different camera than this design. That is what these reviewers don't understand. You don't wish everything on every camera that you see. And very personal preferences don't make a universal necessity.
And, the reviewers don't even bother to understand the features that the thing does have, yet, they make conclusions. eg. the video quality limitation.
locke_fc: Why the ludicrous 1/50 sync speed, Panasonic? Why???
No it can't be, GX7 has electronic shutter and 1/320 sync. It could be limit of the new stepper motor design??
Capture One just released V7.1.6 with gx7 support
kentwosheds: When the reviewer states he would rather use the rear screen than the viewfinder, he doesn't take into account wearers of reading glasses.To use the screen would mean having to wear glasses, whereas the viewfinder means no specs required.
The reviewer of this camera used review refrigerators at his previous job. It takes a while for a newibie to understand photography....
Con: Focus mode dial not especially useful
atalaya: I have a question about the EVF:
The specs say that it has 1.39 (.70X APS-C equivalent) magnification — and this is the number you use in your graphic that compares the relative sizes of viewfinders. However, unlike the cameras you are comparing it to, the GX7 viewfinder has a 16:9 aspect ratio. 3:2 and 4:3 are crops from this.
The rectangle in your graphic looks to be close to 4:3 in aspect ratio. I am confused. Is the GX7 really .70X when displaying a 4:3 image?
It seemed smaller than that when I tried it.
I really like the form factor and handling of this camera. The M1 is bigger and quite a bit more expensive.
The thing that is giving me pause is the GX7 viewfinder. I have to try really hard to see even a hint of tearing, so this does not bother me. I presume that the $15 eyecup will cure the ambient light problem. But, indoors in the camera store, the GX7 viewfinder image seemed to be smaller and appreciably less "natural" than the M1 viewfinder image.
If I select 16:9 the margins are visible but just. If I put on 4:3 I can see everything. I wear glasses.
One question I have for people who have problem with ambient light and margins views, is how far off do you look through the eyepiece? I ask this because I don't have the problems you have any more than I have with any other camera. Ok, nikon F3HP was awesome but that was exception.
It sounds to me if people are treating the LVF as if it were waist level finder.
FrankGr: Has anyone made excellent quality, sharp, very large prints - up to 20x30 inches with the GX7 files? Is it possible with a small sensor ?
And does it have eyepiece diopter adjustment ?
I have printed few so for at 24x3* and they look great.
also, 300dpi is hazardous to your eye sight. Your eyes can stay crossed when you stare at something too closely for too long.
Munene: I need some straight advice, please: GX7 or XE2?
Background: I used to shoot with my Leica M6. I do mostly street photography. I love my GF1, but am ready to upgrade. Two issues: I do not like the way the light meter reads in GF1 (or I use it wrong), why not a match like the old days (needle, diodes)? I don't know if the exposure is correct until I press the shutter? Again, this could be me. The XE2 has a shutter dial on the camera, but how does this affect reading the light meter inside the viewfinder? THIS IS A BIG ISSUE.
So, GX7 or XE2? I am not too concerned with video or wifi or whatever, just good images. Does the fuji sensor trump the 4/3, end conversation? I sometimes enlarge to 20X24. My old Leica (and Canon FTb), I have prints 4' X 6'! Both are awesome (not really planning more, I used to print at a lab).
Unfortunately I cannot find a store that carries both for me to look at (or even one of them, where I live).
Here is what I shoot: www.visualquotations.com
If you put the camera on M mode you get the needle match effect.....M6 is permanently fixed to M mode anyway :-)
Also, nothing will match the simplicity of M6 under $3-4k. Then, there is M8/9. I own M9 and love it but I'm more than happey with GX7. I use all my L lenses and panny 12-35mm. It is camera heaven...after some adjustment.
mausta: It was nice seeing all those Nikon Nikkor lenses listed earlier, keep in mind with the correct adapter ALL of those lenses can be used on the EM-1 or any outer m4/3 camera. Albeit without electronic controls, you have to manually focus and adjust the aperture manually (via the adapter) and shoot in A aperture priority mode.I shoot Nikkor's legendary 55mm f2.8 Micro and Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 on my Lumix GH2 with fabulous results.
how do you use tokina 11-16? do you have one of those adpaters that have aperture ring thingys?
Gekopaca: It seems I'm alone, but I think Panasonic made a big design mistake with the GX7. I recently put my hands on it in a shop (I'm waiting for a Leica-type silent M43 since years!) and was really disapointed where they put the release button - not a classic slightly cambered one in the corner, but a flat profile AFTER the speed dial !!!!Result : impossible to shoot precisely, and, most of all, impossible to shoot with the second phalanx of the finger which is - all leicaists will confirm that - the best "oneself image stabilization" invented in the history of photography.Japanese ingineers aren't human or what?!?! What's sure, that they aren't photographers… Too bad! IMHO without this default - unacceptable for my use - the GX7 should be the best camera of the year.
I have used leica Ms all my life along with other cameras and never felt the need to define myself as "leicaist". So, no, a "thinking" brain is not fixed on any one design, leica or otherwise.
And, yes, Leica RULES, even if only in my head:-)
The location of the shutter is exactly were it should be, it is 1.5 knockels from the side of the camera. The way your finger naturally bends. It is exactly the same distance as leica M*-M9/M, Nikon F*-3, all Fs, pre F4, canons pre EOS, Pentaxs, etc. Should I go on?