atalaya: I have a question about the EVF:
The specs say that it has 1.39 (.70X APS-C equivalent) magnification — and this is the number you use in your graphic that compares the relative sizes of viewfinders. However, unlike the cameras you are comparing it to, the GX7 viewfinder has a 16:9 aspect ratio. 3:2 and 4:3 are crops from this.
The rectangle in your graphic looks to be close to 4:3 in aspect ratio. I am confused. Is the GX7 really .70X when displaying a 4:3 image?
It seemed smaller than that when I tried it.
I really like the form factor and handling of this camera. The M1 is bigger and quite a bit more expensive.
The thing that is giving me pause is the GX7 viewfinder. I have to try really hard to see even a hint of tearing, so this does not bother me. I presume that the $15 eyecup will cure the ambient light problem. But, indoors in the camera store, the GX7 viewfinder image seemed to be smaller and appreciably less "natural" than the M1 viewfinder image.
If I select 16:9 the margins are visible but just. If I put on 4:3 I can see everything. I wear glasses.
One question I have for people who have problem with ambient light and margins views, is how far off do you look through the eyepiece? I ask this because I don't have the problems you have any more than I have with any other camera. Ok, nikon F3HP was awesome but that was exception.
It sounds to me if people are treating the LVF as if it were waist level finder.
FrankGr: Has anyone made excellent quality, sharp, very large prints - up to 20x30 inches with the GX7 files? Is it possible with a small sensor ?
And does it have eyepiece diopter adjustment ?
I have printed few so for at 24x3* and they look great.
also, 300dpi is hazardous to your eye sight. Your eyes can stay crossed when you stare at something too closely for too long.
Munene: I need some straight advice, please: GX7 or XE2?
Background: I used to shoot with my Leica M6. I do mostly street photography. I love my GF1, but am ready to upgrade. Two issues: I do not like the way the light meter reads in GF1 (or I use it wrong), why not a match like the old days (needle, diodes)? I don't know if the exposure is correct until I press the shutter? Again, this could be me. The XE2 has a shutter dial on the camera, but how does this affect reading the light meter inside the viewfinder? THIS IS A BIG ISSUE.
So, GX7 or XE2? I am not too concerned with video or wifi or whatever, just good images. Does the fuji sensor trump the 4/3, end conversation? I sometimes enlarge to 20X24. My old Leica (and Canon FTb), I have prints 4' X 6'! Both are awesome (not really planning more, I used to print at a lab).
Unfortunately I cannot find a store that carries both for me to look at (or even one of them, where I live).
Here is what I shoot: www.visualquotations.com
If you put the camera on M mode you get the needle match effect.....M6 is permanently fixed to M mode anyway :-)
Also, nothing will match the simplicity of M6 under $3-4k. Then, there is M8/9. I own M9 and love it but I'm more than happey with GX7. I use all my L lenses and panny 12-35mm. It is camera heaven...after some adjustment.
mausta: It was nice seeing all those Nikon Nikkor lenses listed earlier, keep in mind with the correct adapter ALL of those lenses can be used on the EM-1 or any outer m4/3 camera. Albeit without electronic controls, you have to manually focus and adjust the aperture manually (via the adapter) and shoot in A aperture priority mode.I shoot Nikkor's legendary 55mm f2.8 Micro and Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 on my Lumix GH2 with fabulous results.
how do you use tokina 11-16? do you have one of those adpaters that have aperture ring thingys?
Gekopaca: It seems I'm alone, but I think Panasonic made a big design mistake with the GX7. I recently put my hands on it in a shop (I'm waiting for a Leica-type silent M43 since years!) and was really disapointed where they put the release button - not a classic slightly cambered one in the corner, but a flat profile AFTER the speed dial !!!!Result : impossible to shoot precisely, and, most of all, impossible to shoot with the second phalanx of the finger which is - all leicaists will confirm that - the best "oneself image stabilization" invented in the history of photography.Japanese ingineers aren't human or what?!?! What's sure, that they aren't photographers… Too bad! IMHO without this default - unacceptable for my use - the GX7 should be the best camera of the year.
I have used leica Ms all my life along with other cameras and never felt the need to define myself as "leicaist". So, no, a "thinking" brain is not fixed on any one design, leica or otherwise.
And, yes, Leica RULES, even if only in my head:-)
The location of the shutter is exactly were it should be, it is 1.5 knockels from the side of the camera. The way your finger naturally bends. It is exactly the same distance as leica M*-M9/M, Nikon F*-3, all Fs, pre F4, canons pre EOS, Pentaxs, etc. Should I go on?
Please advise if this model support wireless flash.
Yes. Page 224 of the user manual. You can download it.
This site have become like reviews of car magazines. Every car gets thumbs up, and a "good buy". Yet, a year later you hear the car they raved about catches fire while on family vacation, or the front wheel comes off on the freeway while doing 80 click. Just minor inconveniences....
There is exactly 3 weak points and 3 good points in each camera. That is a good review, that is, if you want to sell anything that your dad carries in his store.
concert photographer: Why is it not possible to use most Olympus lenses on Panasonic cameras? (and vice-versa). I thought they did work together since 7 years to achieve this goal?I shot some pictures with the 9-18mm on the GX7: horrible! It simply doesn't WORK. Strange that nobody ever tried to do that before! before replying, please TRY yourself.One issue will be soon the non waterproof tilted viewfinder: five minutes of rain on it in its upwards position and the whole camera is ruined.Marc
I tilt the the LVF 90 degree, and lay on my back to avoid water getting in. Works perfectly...
pinholecamera: Does anyone know definitively if there is a way to record only AUDIO with the mic? My current Cannon has this great feature and I hate to lose it. Thanks!
I haven't come across this feature and I don't see it in the user manual. Are you using it for annotation?
BBnose: It is probably the most arguable camera review by dpreview. So many comment against it. I think dpreview should review their review on GX-7 and redo the review. Huh!
DP have gone from being a good informative resource to a opinion blogs for gizmo fondlers that you call reviews these days. It started some time ago and this review is just one of the worst I have seen so far. You can defend it but that doesn't change it from what it is- an opinion of someone whom we don't know the qualification of.
chj: What is the Auto ISO range on the GX7?
No, I checked again. auto ISO is 200-25600 for still image. Of course, in my book 12800-25600 is not really usable beyond on screen viewing. Even canon 5D MIII looks like *&^% at 6400+ when you print it.
In Movie mode it is 200-3200
Lensahand: This camera is very tempting, especially with it's silent mode compared to my GF-1 which makes such a loud noise that it's very offputting.
What's more offputting, though, is the depreciation on these m4/3 bodies. My GF-1 cost about £600 three years ago and now goes for £80, which in itself represents a bargain but for an early adopter that's dreadful.
Would I notice a huge leap in image quality from a first generation m4/3 to the latest models? Silence aside, that's the other thing that would make me consider this. Given how quickly these cameras fall in value, perhaps I need to stop myself and do the intelligent thing by waiting a year or so!
"Would I notice a huge leap in image quality from a first generation m4/3 to the latest models?"
That can be a tough thing to measure. If you are taking pictures on sunny days only, the difference is not as big between old and new. But if you take a lot of low-available light then there is significant improvements.
Of course, the camera has features that work very well. The LVF is well executed. The manual focusing is a head and neck above any other system, etc.
Aucupium: The tilting EVF seemed such a benefit (I fondly remember my old one from a Minolta Dynax) - so a shame to see it is such a weak feature. Being someone who likes an EVF, as I dont like to use glasses and so don't use the LCD for taking photos which M4/3 EVF actually works properly?
And why is exactly a "such as weak feature??
LVF works perfectly with or without glasses. My friend with oly with dm5 is dumb founded how well it works with legacy lenses too.
tbcass: I'm confused. What is "in camera RAW processing?" I thought the whole purpose of RAW was to give you a totally unprocessed image for post processing on a computer.
Yes, raw file has a single purpose! It makes possible to re-process the image to one's liking instead of the final jpg format. That's the purpose.
200-25600no auto in manual mode...
ChicagoRob: I'd like some feedback from eyeglass wearers. Does the GX7 VF require you to move your eye around to see the entire frame? How much of a problem is the small eyecup, which, according to DPR, causes the VF image to wash out?
I can see the entire image and a bit of exrtra edge. As for side lights, I have that problem even with my M9 and D700. The tilting viewfinder in gx7 comes is quite handy for that.
dansw99: Neglecting video and continuous stabilization, how well does the IBIS work at the moment of shutter release? I didn't see any mention of that in the GX7 review, or any other review. I don't shoot video much and am living now with IS set on just shutter release.
I have a hand tremor which makes IS a major consideration , but I never see any mention of it as a comparison item. Or are all cameras equal for IS?Thanks,Dan
That's probably true.
"in camera RAW processing?" = A useless feature for "in-camera"
The camera already is producing the best jpg in can process. Don't tell me you can determine better images on that dinky display. Don't you have a computer at home?
okfuture: I'm a little confused about the review in terms of performance.
"The Lumix DMC-GX7 certainly does not disappoint in the performance department. ... Focusing is nearly instantaneous ... met or exceeded Panasonic's speed estimates."
There wasn't a single negative in the narrative description. Not even a lukewarm statment. Either the score is poorly aligned or the narrative is incomplete.
I'm truly curious -- what am I missing?
The x-m1 received a higher score with this narrative on performance: "It's not quite as snappy as, say, the Panasonic Lumix GF6 .. makes subject tracking difficult ... the battery seemed to die quicker than one would expect ..."
The reviewer or DP really have gone out of their way to mark this down.
Yes, the camera does not include X,Y,Z. But there are people who exactly don't want to carry a camera with XYZ. This is a really high end small camera on the move.
Kind of ashamed to say, but Leica M9 and Nikon D700 are staying home a lot these days. I'm not claiming images are better than leica but the short coming is small and once you get familiar with it it is a fast efficient camera.