bernardf12: The only reason I don't like this camera is because it doesn't have a tilting screen. The flip out screens require too many actions to get to the tilting position. And you have to go through these actions repeatedly through your day shooting. Others may like this, but it's not for me because I use the tilted screen quite often.
I didn't like the new idea either at first, but the benefit of full motion out weighs that minor gripe, I use the odd angles more than what I thought
kape06111: I have this camera since one week and can only say:"I love it". The ergonomics is awsome, de viewfinder is big, clear and no lag, everything work flawless and really smooth and the sensor, i keep reading there is not that much improvement in comparison with the previous one, but under my expereince there is much more infromation in the files coming from Gx8 than the files coming from the E-M5II (my previous cam).
In general very happy, the only con i see until now is the function button located between the lens and the grip, it can be activated accidentally and depending on the funtion it has, it may be annoying.
Funny, I have hard time finding that button to push. It is so flushed.
It is an awesome camera. I ditched Leica M8 for gx7, and now gx8 is a really joy to shoot with. I'm back to my street shooting and landscape...
Any serious photograhers out there, add 15, 25/1.4 and, oh the nocticron, and you'll be in camera haven. I know, it is an expensive proposition. But try this combo with leica. My jaw dropped when I compared the nocticron pics shot at f1.2 and shot with 90mm apo-summicron shot at f2(borrowed one). don't know how to post sample comparisons here...
Larryrob03782: found it. go to function button mode in setting. click set on live mode. a menu of function button locations will appear. pick the function button you want to control focus magnification. there are both visible and hidden 'function' buttons all over this camera...who knew? once set, it takes a fraction of a second to provide the magnification for focusing. probably not as nice as just turning the focus ring but not bad, IMO.
this is why everyone loves arriflex....they would never make this so complicatedbut the camera would probably cost 3X the price. I just ordered 2 Arri screws, screws!, at $75 ea
Yes, I found this option, it's better than any other setup in other brands. But the GX7 has the most clever way of doing it. I hope they change this in an upcoming firmware. Or, include the AF ON button to the possible options...
I'll wait for 800000 iso. It'll be better
Anyone had run into this...
On GX1 and gx7 when you use manual focus lens like leicas if you press the shutter button you get a magnifire to help with focusing. It looks GX8 has omitted this very useful feature...
Yes, they are very expensive.
I own 6 tripods from different manuf. and half of them are light weights, but gitzo is the only one I take out since I bought it. I used to think gitzo was insanely expensive, have you seen how much FLM are? and they are not nearly as good as gitzo
There is a reason you don't find many used gitzos...
ThatCamFan: 6.3 ? Leica should not put they're name to this.
Leica put its name to a f6.3 a long time ago, probably before you were born
OortCloud: 42mm portrait lens? LOL!
"4/3 is for amateurs."
ok, you be the pro. But my other camera is a 8x10", I must be your god :)
How much a lens distorts depends on its working distance to the subject. So a 42.5mm on 4/3 has the distortion as 85mm on a full 35mm format
kpaddler: "Not built for extended use in cold conditions"
As usual, DP doesn't disappoint with its useless points raised.
The camera lasts in cold weather longer than the people who carry it.
You have difficultly reading english????
Spare batteries solve could solve poor battery problems of *any* camera, but a poor camera is a poor camera no matter how many camera or battery you carry. Unless, you have religious affiliations to one brand or the other.
The point I make is when you buy a small camera with a small battery, then you will have shorter battery life. Different models may last by some small margine longer or shorter, the difference between models are not that big, given bigger differences in features they have. It's not like one lasts all day and the other lasts 1hr. As such, it is a meaningless to point out which one lasts longer by a marginal value. Even bigger cameras in the winter need a backups...
A mediocre camera with a great battery life is still a lousy camera no matter how many spare batteries you carry. But a good camera with a poor battery life is a great option with spare batteries.
"Not built for extended use in cold conditions"
stevez: This cracks me up. We spend our money on light weight carbon fiber tripods and now have to carry an extra 3 pounds to stabilize them.
Don't forget the benefits of low weight of the bag when empty, it leaves you plenty of strength to carry a 3lb jug of water to fill it when it is needed. Now, if they made a jug that was really light when empty and was only $45, I could buy even a lighter tripod and carry more water in that jug. Imagine what good photos I could take...
Generally, I like panny products. But this one is totally useless if you want to use it in condition that claims to be for. I am a WW kayaker, and this TS line of cameras are just garbage in terms of ergonomics. Try to press that tiny video button with a neoprene gloves. I have lost so many chances with ^*(^%$ piece that I'm seriously considering the GoPro. Coming back from trips everyone has something to show, and I have these fuzzy fuggy things that I can't show....
You sure that is not the fitting from under the kitchen sink
Stefan66: I would really like to see a comparioson between the LX100 and the GX7 with the nice 12-35 f2.8 lens because that was the camera I was going for as a walkaround camera before LX100 showed up. I am curious about the lens comparisons, price not taken into account. I know the GX7 / 12-35 f2.8 path is more expensive, what I am curious about is, would it be worth it?Cheers!
@ LaFonte & ChrisLumix
I like Gx7 for its high quality and versatility, and I like LX7 for its size and quality.
Next time if I decide to upgrade LX7, I'll find something that replace the LX7 characteristic, LX100 is too big. And if panasonic does the same thing to GX7, then they lose me as a customer there too. I'm not a dummy that just swings in the air. I understand they aim at the low end consumers, but that market is very very flaky, and will not save the day for any brand.
There are plenty of examples of big Corps. making foolish decisions. Producing too many product lines in one sector has never been in any companies' long term benefit, it is an extremely short sighted strategy.
"...The point of the GX7 is to be small...."
No, the point of Gx7 is to be a mft, and that' what it is. LX100 is muddying the waters, and be small. I have GX7 and LX7 and both have their purpose and cover all the senarios. I don't see myself upgrading to lx100, as good as it may be. The camera manufacturers are shooting themselves in the foot as they have done so many times in decades past
Now you can have a lens for $359 to stop down by 4X to get quality of a $500 lens from a decent manufacturer at f4
Given that this lens doesn't have any electrical contacts, the images that a lens like this produces can NOT be easily corrected for typical aberrations that this class of lens have.
This lens is just going to appeal to speed junkies, and the speed junkies will find out that the images look like &*(% at wide open
To put your mind at peace, for a similar reason I dismissed voigtlander 25/.95 and got panny 25mm. The extra speed was unusable.
Nobody, who knows, takes a picture at f.95 or 1.2 for sharpness. Show me night performance of the lens.
And, there are plenty of very good lenses in that range eg. Nikon 50 1.4/1.2. I use nikon 35/1.4 with awesome results.
So, no, this is just a cheap imitation. Which is fine, a $50 rolex knock off watch has its 2 months worth of show off value.